Sternoclavicular joint pain- Prolotherapy treatment for chest and rib pain from joint instability

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • Ross Hauser, MD and Danielle Matias, PA-C discuss our approach using Prolotherapy to treat sternoclavicular joint and rib instability.
    To learn more about rib and sternoclavicular joint instability, and how we approach creating more stable joints in patients, you are always welcome to read our articles: www.caringmedi...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 38

  • @scottfink6871
    @scottfink6871 Рік тому +5

    Outstanding video!!! This is such a frustrating and painful condition, and so few doctors have any idea even how to diagnose it, much less what to do about it. Looking forward to getting back to Florida several times this year to restart my treatment.

    • @CaringmedicalProlotherapy
      @CaringmedicalProlotherapy  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for the kind words, Scott! Always love hearing from you, and we wish you all the best in health!

  • @jarodallen7910
    @jarodallen7910 Рік тому +2

    Cartilaginous mosh pit is what I call it🙈 ...doc you literally made a video detailing my every ailment that I have been suffering from for the past 7yrs, oh not to worry...supposedly the surgeon that disappeared on me 2 yrs ago(along with handful of others out here in Oregon) is supposedly in the process of getting me "scheduled". After I've now been on 2+ yrs of med leave to the point I was terminated from my job for failure to return from leave 😑
    ... so short and sweet , when you told me a about a year or so ago that you would have me as an patient I should've have hanglided my ass over there with the 5k in hand !
    Bc you good sir were /are right about EVERYTHING you have highlighted in our tele-consult and these beautiful gems of info- visual insight YOU BLESS US WITH.. are almost like exclusive stern reminders of whats actually the problem and WHO it is that I need to be seeing all along.
    Needless to say, BUT THE fact you continue to meticulously and cognitively negotiate the pertinent anatomy from a functional perspective makes it so there's no room for a "secondary diagnosis" or ambiguity Of interventions. Something that I've yet to encounter in my seven yrs of constant bone-on-bone grinding of my humeral head against my acromial joints & my glenoid socket. Its to the extent now that it's being said to have a deformed disposition or more specifically a "bi-concavity", thanks to the aid of CT reconstruction also is and has been fractured along the anterior rim with the rogue portion of bone likely nestled comfortably (NOT😱) In my upper Axillary recess. But that's not the part that will make you pull out the it happens my post surgical report from partial shoulder replacement lists my humeral head that was removed in procedure , as being 17.5 millimeters measured transversely. The fragment that's found in my axillary recess is also 17.5 mm go figure 🤔🤔😪🤔🤷🏾
    Now mind you this information was discovered almost a year or more ago yet no surgery has been performed. Despite several recommendations for such to take place or at the very least do a foreign object removal to give better QOL smh... the imaging tech referenced the unknown loose body as a "glenoid component" until I explained I don't have another prosthesis in my left side other than the humeral head.
    Interestingly enough I have been for over a yr now complaining of PAIN symptoms in my sternal region that essentially inhibits full breathing bc @ peak of said breath the bony protrusion( about like half a gumball convexed) that resides in the center of my sternum at levels c5-c6 c7-t1 where I just so happen to be suffering the worst from severe degenerative changes, foramenal stenosis, ligamentum flavum hypertrophy, a nd most recently learned retrolithesis. I have good bit of the symtptoms outlines here today in this video and I'm glad bc I've been suspecting the cervical rib to be the culprit there and just beneath my sub-occipital region where I have a constant palpable knot w/ pain and swelling.
    P.S.
    The way you & your colleague speak of the interstitial nature of the ribs and shoulders as well as the whole skeletal topology.
    Bc... I have a hunch that my drop foot could be pseudo in nature and simply is my body letting me know it's not stupid enough to walk regularly during injury. Its in the shifting of the weight from heel to toe, that one can assess their overall postural health. Considering posture directly is affected by anatomical stance down to the individual toes and gait pattern.
    What I've found is that whenever I attempt to force myself to orient my great toe northward /medially to achieve a more positively controlled gait. Almost as instant as a zipper reminds a man that he has not properly put everything away following a urinal visit , the sharp pain ,popping and overall brittle feeling start at the shoulder and emanates it's way medially ending at the protruded sternal site 😱🤔. Retrospectively It all makes for quite the plausible explanation as to why I suddenly stopped the heel-to-toe when walking on my left side 😳

  • @thesingingviolinist
    @thesingingviolinist Рік тому

    Thank you for another detailed, INCREDIBLE video! I've been dealing with chronic shoulder pain off and on for 4 years but your videos have shown me there are ways to treat this and heal it.. I'll be getting PRP in Feb. All the other doctors I've seen just looked completely stumped by my symptoms! Thank you again for sharing this information with the world 🤍

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 Рік тому +3

    Happy New Year doc!

  • @flam7307
    @flam7307 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been getting prolotherapy in my AC and SC joints/bone every 5 weeks for the past 1.5 years for a permanently dislocated clavicle. Just had it done today in fact. It is EXTREMELY painful, but works

    • @CaringmedicalProlotherapy
      @CaringmedicalProlotherapy  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing, Kathleen. That's awesome! We wish you all the best in continued healing! :)

    • @flam7307
      @flam7307 Рік тому

      @@CaringmedicalProlotherapy thank you so much!

    • @toontownlegomaster
      @toontownlegomaster Рік тому

      ​@@flam7307how are you now?

    • @flam7307
      @flam7307 Рік тому

      @@toontownlegomaster much better since I started prolotherapy almost 2 years ago, but it always starts dislocating right around the week before my scheduled injections. Unfortunately, I had to cancel my last one, and will need to cancel me next one, because I just had my knee replaced, and my clavicle is already clunking in and out when I move and lay on that side. The doctor initially thought I’d only need around 6 total injections, but I’ve needed (and continue to need) much more. The 3 days after prolotherapy are pure hellllll, but it’s helped to build scar tissue so the joints don’t keep dislocating in and out with every movement like before

    • @enzos711
      @enzos711 3 місяці тому

      How much does that cost per shot or shots, per visit ?

  • @buddhxful9896
    @buddhxful9896 Рік тому +1

    I got my SC joint back into place after a car accident by raising my arms over my head, keeping my elbows straight, and contracting my upper back/shoulders a few times

    • @CaringmedicalProlotherapy
      @CaringmedicalProlotherapy  Рік тому

      So sorry to hear this - praying for your healing. We wish you all the best as you move forward and research regenerative medicines specialists who can help restore your function. Take good care!

  • @charlesmitchell4516
    @charlesmitchell4516 10 місяців тому

    This video helped me. After years of laying down and stretching my upper ribs on a lacrosse ball caused my ribs to be unstable. My pt found my clavical out of place, as well. I need to try prolotherapy in your office.

    • @CaringmedicalProlotherapy
      @CaringmedicalProlotherapy  10 місяців тому

      We are so glad we would help Charles! We’d love to see you in our office, give us a call when you are ready!

  • @sshh778
    @sshh778 Рік тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ thank you😢 now my long time questions got answered

  • @DudeWheresMyCardz
    @DudeWheresMyCardz 3 місяці тому

    Good morning and thanks for the video.
    My SC joint is enlarged and raised, however it isn't grinding or popping. I felt great for a week after backpacking. Is it possible the downward pull of the backpack helped my pain?

  • @laurachickadee6969
    @laurachickadee6969 Рік тому +3

    I have always had floating ribs,A few months ago I was trying to get up in the bath tub and my left rib went so far over and then towards my stomach that I actually saw the out line of my intestines through my translucent skin,Very scary and I had to work to get it back over.

    • @susansherlock6934
      @susansherlock6934 Рік тому

      Nearly everyone has got floating ribs...it just some are completely free!

    • @laurachickadee6969
      @laurachickadee6969 Рік тому

      @@susansherlock6934 Well no one I know can move their lower ribs with their hand

  • @Rebeka1589
    @Rebeka1589 6 місяців тому

    This is a great video, when that person was getting those shots that looked so rough 🫢could it be in a less aggressive way? 😰

    • @CaringmedicalProlotherapy
      @CaringmedicalProlotherapy  6 місяців тому +1

      Prolotherapy is painful however not unbearable! When getting treated the area is numbed, we also have sedation available for those who might need it - but most don't!

  • @kelliez9991
    @kelliez9991 Рік тому +1

    Rolling, clicking shoulder and clicking, popping and grinding, stiff neck- you are describing me! Can this cause my sternum to be swollen? Also I have a rib that sticks out from my son being very large in uterus and his foot was pushing against this rib. Can it go back into place 27 years later?

  • @AngelaGWillis
    @AngelaGWillis Рік тому

    So... since having large pregnancies which left me with a wide Diastasis Recti Abdominus, I have avoided belly breaths, intentionally. I also believe that with my hereditary kyphosis which causes my rounded shoulders, instability, and mild lower lumbar scoliosis causing weakness and making hard to have good posture is why my sternum/rib heads sublex and dislocate. The only way to get it back in was to flatten my back on the floor - it was sooo painful. Strengthen my chest muscles helped a little, so it doesn't happen quite as often, now. I also have a few lower slipping ribs on my right side. My guess it's from my hEDS, rather than any kind of force. Thanks again for all your knowledge. At this point, I think you might as well create a solution I can bathe in that will treat all my ligaments at once! 🤣 Happy New Year to you, Danielle, and your staff. Hoping this is the year we finally get to meet.💜

  • @TT-pu7ms
    @TT-pu7ms Рік тому

    Can you advise how long it typically takes for the body to start seeing health benefits of prolotherapy once the vagus nerve starts functioning better after treatment?

  • @tonetone7693
    @tonetone7693 Рік тому

    I have some inflammation and pain in my sternoclavicular joint.

  • @almataralmatar7888
    @almataralmatar7888 Рік тому

    Im in Japan i need to travel to get your treatment for my meniscus tear in both knees
    What is the first step????????

  • @brandonwilson3175
    @brandonwilson3175 Рік тому

    My friend has this and keeps getting put on medication and passed around the workman's comp Dr said he can't do nothing for him he has to learn to live with it

    • @CaringmedicalProlotherapy
      @CaringmedicalProlotherapy  Рік тому

      Sorry to hear about your friend, Brandon. Thanks for sharing. Sadly, this is often the case with Workman's comp and other traditional medical systems and it can be very frustrating and disappointing for the patient when only medication to cover up symptoms is offered. We are outside of that system and focus on getting to the root cause of patients' conditions so they can recover and move on with their lives. If your friend would like to potentially have us help them here, we'd be happy to. We wish you all the best in health!

  • @mahesmuniandy5004
    @mahesmuniandy5004 Рік тому

    Hello doctor ...I have slip disc c5c6...if have tis problem have breathing issue?

  • @kaan7532
    @kaan7532 4 дні тому

    Actually my indian phsiotherapist helper put a lot of pressure on my clavicle bone causing pain in ACROMIOCLAVICULAR JOINT anf STERNOCLAVICULAR JOINT , i have not underwent mri or ct scan or x ray since it is 2 weeks now, may be this treatmemt help me if it is not ok in another weeks , not went to doctor even

    • @CaringmedicalProlotherapy
      @CaringmedicalProlotherapy  4 дні тому

      We are so sorry to hear that you are going through this. We would absolutely love to help you on your road to healing!

  • @johnhank6721
    @johnhank6721 Рік тому

    Can prolotherapy help with cranial settling

  • @Michellepuccio
    @Michellepuccio Рік тому

    Can this block blood flow to your heart? I usually have to lay down because I feel like the blood isn’t flowing down to my heart but open up when I lay

  • @roboquaid
    @roboquaid Рік тому

    Hi do you do remote consultations??

  • @TT-pu7ms
    @TT-pu7ms Рік тому

    Also, do dying/dead brain cells return after prolotherapy to improve brain function or are they lost forever (permanent brain injury and dysfunction)?

  • @jarodallen7910
    @jarodallen7910 Рік тому

    Second!