Vintage Concert Audio at Prolight + Sound 2023 with Wolfgang „Schabbach“ Neumann
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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Finally mothergrid presents the english version of a tour through the impressive Vintage Concert Audio exhibition at Prolight + Sound 2023.
Experience equipment by WEM, Marshall, Shure, Orange Amplification, Lem, d&b audiotechnik, Meyer Sound, L-Acoustics, Electro-Voice, Midas Consoles, Yamaha Commercial Audio, Ramsa, Soundcraft, Zeck Audio, Zoot Horn, Bose and many more.
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God i remember working with a crappy Southern rock cover band in the mid 80's doing sound. They had no clue about sound reproduction and had misspent a lot of money for a 4 piece band. I remember bringing in my Hafler DH500 to demonstrate the sound of a separate amp versus a mixer amp. Reconed speakers to clean up their bass bins. Got better compression drivers. Had them sounding better than they deserved by the time i went to college and was to be exposed to touring sound. Meyers, Clair Bros. TurboSound. Insane hanging weights for our airroof building. Racks and racks of Crown amps for the U2 subs. They spent their money on sound instead of lights back then. Boy has that changed.
Great video. Brought back memories. Thought real hard about making sound for a living but the pros that I was working with talked me out of it. FOH mixing was such a hit or miss career target. I now know that sound engineering would have been a better target for me. Still love sound.
Thanks for your memories!
Wonderful! They should consider writing a book/encyclopedia!
Fully agree, would be a fantastic read
Very cool and informative.Real treasure.
Thank you very much!
WOW! What a treat to stumbled on this! I haven't even watched it yet, but had to share my gratitude right away!
I'be been fascinated by the old gear for years.
Love all of that, thank you so much for preserving so much and bringing it all together. I have been using most of that gear since 1974, so it was a real trip down memory lane for me as well...
Congratulations Mr Wofgang! You makes me go to the past when I used my analog mixers, like yamaha Rm800 in my studio, Yamaha Promix 01 in my small PA, and my Soundcraft Spirit Live 4 32 channels mixer for PA. There were a lot of mixers you show that I was dreaming to buy in the past. Today I use the digital mixers from england, yamaha and so on. Thanks you so much for your class and tour, and obviously to he people that makes this place with all this audio history. I wish I was there too! From Brazil, congratulations again!
@@pedrosolocutorbc Thank you for the Kind words!
Merci 👍 Extraordinaire rassemblement de matériel qui ont fait l'histoire du son. ❤
De rien!
Great collection!
i LOVED this video :). i still own my Kustom PA just like yours, it sounds terrible for singing but does it ever look good :). cheers and props for your sound museum, if i ever get to germany i will visit :)
I attended one of their evening listening sessions.
Very interessting to see and hear how much the systems improve over time.
For my personal taste, the F2 B1 combination from d&b sounded absolutly incredible.
Thank your afford, making this vintage sound experience.🎉
Cool. I remember everyone in our local bands using the 2x15" Martin bins in clubs. Punchy.
I love this video. Thank you for making it.
What a Wonderful tour , cheers man
The reason why I love this exhibition is, you can walk around with your pair of 70s bootcut trousers and loose long hair without feeling misplaced 😅
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Or work for a software company.
Thank you so much for posting this and thank you for making me feel old:)
It was nice to reminisce; I was fortunate enough to use most of those large format consoles and outboard gear back in the day. I can still feel what those P&G faders on the Midas PR consoles felt like..
It would have been cool to see a Clair S-4 or even Turbosound TMS-3 along side the others.
Glad you liked it! We have some Turbosound in another video, but it's unfortunately in german only...
The EV MT4s were 1996 ACDC with Pab Boothroyd, I remember that PA hanging on either side very loud show ... the X array they took out the next tour was really clean sounding as well given the SPL
Ohhhhh, thank you so much. That was a real trip. Love those Phillishave cabinets. 😊😊
Bello/Magnifico.✡️😱😱😱😱😱😱💪🌡️
Man, memories came flooding back, I have mixed on so many of those consoles,,, Some of those consoles sounded amazing
Great show!
I’ve always wondered about sound reinforcement from the “golden days” of popular music. Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for uploading
Very very cool love from Wellington nz
Greetings to the other end of the world from Leipzig!
@@mothergrid-magazine thanks brother it would be nice to do this sort of thing with nz and Australia most of the gear has been used and stall used
That was so awesome!!!
Die MSL3 läuft noch immer jeden Abend im Spectrum Augsburg. Ich liebe sie.
Audio history treasure.
This was awesome! Thank you so much for the tour. I WISH I could hear some of these systems! Damn. Some absolutely incredible gear!
Great video, Wonderful to see the old stuff, Martin Audio with the philoshaves sounded amazing. I would add some Turbo sound tms3, Meyer UPA, JBL 4560, Hill M1, Drawmer Gates, Alesis MIDIverbs….
Actually not forgetting the Clair Bros S4, I heard this when I saw U2 in ‘85. Can you imagine one box with 2x18, 4x10, 2xHF, 2xSHF
The US Festival used 90 a side. Imagine what that sounded like?!@@andywild9183
✨✨👏🏻👏🏻 As always... Thanks!
Very interesting. Thank you.
This was fun to watch.. I still have some of these PA systems in storage. I still use the EV MT4's
Company I work for still uses them. Boss loves them.
This is fun, I have mixed on some of those big Martin rigs over the years and I just got rid of four of those JBL wedges from the 80s they are 1982 Cabaret series if I remember right. I have used tons of those Cerwin Vega bottoms B36. I have mixed on MSL3 cabs. And lots and lots of the Bose 802, they were great for hanging from tall stands for public address for sports fields.
I mixed on one of those series 1 sound crafts they sounded sooo good.
You can't give a PM3000 or 4000 away for free now, how times have changed.
Großartige Erinnerungen❤
Es gab mal eine Open Air Show, für die alle Zoothorn Systeme in Deutschland zusammengesammelt wurden, ich weiss nicht mehr, was das war. Und in einem Club in Hannover gab es ein Zoothorn Mischpult, riesig gross, aber nur 24 Kanäle.
thanks for the tour !
Someone needs to revive the WEM brand. Their stuff had really cool design.
Brook my back setting up many a PM3/4 when I started stagehanding.
Excellent video Herr Wolfgang. Was Turbosound popular in Germany?
@@ganjafarmer1572 Yes!
I used a Ramsa S1 for FOH once, so now you know someone, who did.
I have a gold Echolette tape echo that I used for years as a pre amp
I have an old Lafayette spring reverb unit that was suposed to be for vocals but works well as a guitar preamp
I'd be a kid in a candy store at this place.🤤🔊🔊🔊
I like Your Beckenbauer style to speak english
Man… moving the old Heil fiberglass cabinets was a chore my son !
OMG OMG!!, so good material, is it okay to use this video for educational purposes? I want to get permission.
Hi, feel free to show this video in public and share or embed the link whereever you want. Just simply do not download it. Thank you!
Sackradi, das war absolut geil! Ich hab noch zwei P1 von Dynacord rumstehen.
Wurden die konzerte aus denen die aufnahmen vom album in transit von saga genommen wurden über so eine anlage der frühen 80er ins publikum gebracht
You didn’t talk about community you have there they are still the best company
How fun…..oh my…I started with a sound craft 200 24 x4 I didn’t know shit….but I was a lead singer so I understood how a vocal should sound
And I could get it loud before feed back…..then over some time and many mistakes I got to understand how effects sat in a mix
Two spx90 one Roland sde1000. One SPX was verb which went across drums and vox…second pitch doubler flange and reverse reverb only effects I used….we had showco tops 2x12 large 2” horn and 4 double 18 peavy subs 2 preside…to this day I hear engineers whose vocals sound harsh or boxy 400-800 hz needing to go….but no one seems to care….thanks for the video
Happy to read you like it!
When the PMD-5 is vintage…..
13:26 why no word to the Community Boxes ?
Where is Bheringer ×32?
In the future.
lovely video, thank you..
19:44 may i ask what were the limitations that prohibited the use of line arrays for concerts in the past?
Thanks for your question, Schabbach replied as follows: „There was no line array for touring concert use until VDosc. Before that, there was simply no concert line array suitable for touring. Christian Heil has brought the line array format into a road suitable format. The line array technology is much older and has been used for a long time, e.g. in fixed installations.“
I hope we could help! Markus
@@mothergrid-magazine thank you mr Markus... is it safe to assume then that the size/weight made them unusable for portable sound systems prior to mr Christian Heil array system?
@@duroxkiloI don‘t think so. Large boxes we’re flown before, too. But I‘m sure we have lots of people with knowledge here that can answer your questions.
@@mothergrid-magazine thank you
@@mothergrid-magazine ok, thank you...
chronological - or left to right - why not organize this layout to correspond with the talk?
its a shame to show these meyer MSL boxes with the front foam... They such cool and beautiful phaseplugs
Surprised the Yamaha O2R wasn't in there.
hm no one mentioned the turbosound tms3\4 rigs
where's the turbosound??
Preferred pm 3500
Vielen Dank für Eure klasse Initiative als Verein! Gut zusammengefasst hier, war aber auch vor Ort eine riesen Freude.
No turbosound?
It wasn‘t mentioned this time, but I think in both of the previous videos we made about the VCA - unfortunately they‘re in german.
I have a Tycobrahe Blue Board, would you like to buy it?
Schabbach says: If the board is located in the EU please get in contact with us via our website
vintage-concert-audio.com/
@@mothergrid-magazine No, we are in California
it is the same board the Stones used on Give Me Shelter tour
The Only PA i have is the Delta-X218B | Unpowered Dual 18" Subwoofer that it 😔
More budget $$$ for lighting than audio today. Times change yes, but to me it's sad.
Reggae sound system speakers 😂
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learn not to breathe heavily and SNORE directly into the microphone. Gross.
das geschmatze und geschnaufe nervt.....
Tut mir echt leid. Du bekommst natürlich Dein Geld zurück.
@@mothergrid-magazine das macht dann 3 Mark fünfzig.....
@@Sound-DefinitionDa wurdest Du aber über den Tisch gezogen…;-)
@@mothergrid-magazine aber nur über ein Bühnentisch.... alles andere währe ein Gerücht...
@@Sound-Definition😂
*SUPER*
BTW What Americans refer to as "tubes" we call "valves" in the UK.
Plenty of Sure PA’s in many rehearsal spaces 80’s-90’s.
Altec Voice of the Theater? They’re probably still in use.
Esa es nuestra historia!!!
Martin Philishaves - Jeez that brings back memories.
First band in the 70s we had the Shure vocal master with matching cabinets
Wow !!!
41:44 the ARRIs which you can see in the background are from my father