I'm a stam sorc main, but mag sorc is just so much better right now that I've managed a middle ground I'm quite happy with. 64 max mag, 3x swift, DDF, Rallying, Tarnished, hurricane, wield soul shock + class script + major vitality, bound aegis, hardened ward, bow front, ice staff back. 5l 1m 1h, thief mundus, khajiit. I'm torn between 2 piece Balorg vs 2 piece vat ice staff, both are great. To me, it still feels like a stam sorc, I'm just using blue instead of green. My mag pool is 37k which sounds low for a mag sorc, but hardened ward is about 10k in BG, sustain is great, feels just as fast as before. Crit chance is 52% back, 61% front, so crit healing is consistent. My favourite part is I feel tankier than my typical stam sorc build because Hardened Ward replaces Vigor without any drawbacks. Going high hp to make Hardened Ward work on stam sorc makes your resource pools low, so damage and sustain feels much harder. TLDR: stam sorc needs work. Hardened ward should scale from max stam. Bound Armaments needs a major buff/rework, Aegis is so much better and you don't need to cast it. Both give resources, but stam sorcs only need hp or damage, stam is useless right now. Aegis gives minor resolve and protection, making you tankier and freeing up a slot from Vigor. Lastly, Armaments hits too little and is way too easy to dodge, I'd rather use Haunting Curse and/or Crystal Weapon for delayed burst.
Interested to see what you come up with for Templar this patch. I feel like it suffers a bit from Dueling syndrome at the moment. It has some excellent setups for 1v1 (Essence/Rally/Zaan or rangeplar) but feels kinda trash in open world and BGs (mostly due to not being able to kill things in this tanky meta). It often feels like fights end in a stalemate or you lack the burst to kill things outnumbered.
I have been using that spammable skill on my magsorc with S&B... its soo op.. i was tanking 10 players like it was nothing. Permo block while spamming the mag version of skill to get my stam back... all while dealing crazy pressure damage. Then just bursting players down with fat dawnbraker's 😅
Curious how you are tweaking this with the nerfs to Vamp and Druids Resurgence. Came back to the game after a few years and had a lot of fun with this build in Solo BGs. Vamp still worth it (I like the ult, especially in king of the hill games)? Did you switch up the morphs to Wield Soul? I dont do team BGs and dont really do a lot of dueling, so I went with breach and replaced ele sus with endless fury. Gotta steal those KBs. LOL.
@@oreynbearclaw822 I swapped to force pulse for bg's and I use bloodspawn and just dawnbreaker. Hurricane and dark conversion back bar and use alliance spell power potions. Mages wrath instead of inner light front bar.
@@Fe7on Thanks. I know IL is strong, but Mages Wrath is just so satisfying. LOL. Did you drop vamp completely? I really liked the stam spammable, but with a mag spam, I feel like DC is a must for sustain.
heyo late to the party as always but i enjoyed your arca pB build- i now run that on my DK and venomous on my arca ^^ . So ranged sorc with stam spammable in BG still good ? i only have certain amounts of stuff for now so asking before i dive deep and then wasted all my shit XD
Not even using the class script… shock damage with the class script is literally better, and contingency is literally free burst so why would you not use maj breach then drop ele for contingency
I literally explain in the video why I don't run the class mastery, if your dumbass watched it you wouldn't have even typed this, also physical damage his harder on sorc than shock damage.
@@oKeldeo lol exposed by who on low lvl cp? I've beat most the good players in dueling area on this build. Only Grahmster has beat me more times than I beat him. Who are you? Feel free to come prove me wrong. You know where to find me.
contingency with warrior opportunity and force isnt a bad idea. but been there/tried that, losing balorgh and having to add recovery to jewelry ultimately just nets an overall loss in dps and balorgh is just better for burst combo, or immense pressure if you use vamp.
asylum staff honestly just isnt that good on sorc. it does nothing for your burst combo which is how you kill people and it forces you to run rally and shield on back bar with no inner light.
No, but it doesn't cost a 2 piece and there is really great major buffs/debuffs. I personally really like major vitality + class script. The class script makes it hit twice with that 2nd hit being AOE, helps to proc surge easier, and adds about 18% more damage.
@@Fe7on just tested both setups. Asylum with lover / charged and crafty with shadow / sharpened on high elf. It’s pretty close to same damage but 3% up time on status effects with asylum but a smidge more burst with new ability by about 400ish. I don’t have class mastery script yet but that would hit way harder than at that point.
Also is it true anything over 42k mag starts to diminish in difference? I’m not sure how much mag equals dmg if you could help me answer that thank you
still using physical dmg script over shock? saw somewhere that its bugged on tool tip and it doesnt actually hit harde. i also struggle with spam spammable in bgs, do you ever swap it out?
@@user-tl5od3yw3p he runs a different set up. My version is more for stacking defile's and building ult for vampire in 1v1. His is more for OW 1vx fights.
@@Fe7on In you last nb video which was a while ago you were using shattered fate. I believe shattered and order's are still very good options although I heard you mentioning essence thief on a stream with 4 light pieces. Do you think that would be a good idea for solo pvp (cyro and bgs)?
I'm a stam sorc main, but mag sorc is just so much better right now that I've managed a middle ground I'm quite happy with.
64 max mag, 3x swift, DDF, Rallying, Tarnished, hurricane, wield soul shock + class script + major vitality, bound aegis, hardened ward, bow front, ice staff back. 5l 1m 1h, thief mundus, khajiit.
I'm torn between 2 piece Balorg vs 2 piece vat ice staff, both are great.
To me, it still feels like a stam sorc, I'm just using blue instead of green. My mag pool is 37k which sounds low for a mag sorc, but hardened ward is about 10k in BG, sustain is great, feels just as fast as before. Crit chance is 52% back, 61% front, so crit healing is consistent.
My favourite part is I feel tankier than my typical stam sorc build because Hardened Ward replaces Vigor without any drawbacks. Going high hp to make Hardened Ward work on stam sorc makes your resource pools low, so damage and sustain feels much harder.
TLDR: stam sorc needs work. Hardened ward should scale from max stam. Bound Armaments needs a major buff/rework, Aegis is so much better and you don't need to cast it. Both give resources, but stam sorcs only need hp or damage, stam is useless right now. Aegis gives minor resolve and protection, making you tankier and freeing up a slot from Vigor. Lastly, Armaments hits too little and is way too easy to dodge, I'd rather use Haunting Curse and/or Crystal Weapon for delayed burst.
Nice video and great explanation. Thank you . Please keep up the good work
Thank you bro, for sharing the builds, keep good work
Interested to see what you come up with for Templar this patch. I feel like it suffers a bit from Dueling syndrome at the moment.
It has some excellent setups for 1v1 (Essence/Rally/Zaan or rangeplar) but feels kinda trash in open world and BGs (mostly due to not being able to kill things in this tanky meta).
It often feels like fights end in a stalemate or you lack the burst to kill things outnumbered.
I have been using that spammable skill on my magsorc with S&B... its soo op.. i was tanking 10 players like it was nothing.
Permo block while spamming the mag version of skill to get my stam back... all while dealing crazy pressure damage. Then just bursting players down with fat dawnbraker's 😅
Awesome video as always, can you do a night blade next 👍
Looks insane
Hell ya bro. Good vid 👌
Good fights man solid build
Great video
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Ggs brother
Thanks
Very smart build
Curious how you are tweaking this with the nerfs to Vamp and Druids Resurgence. Came back to the game after a few years and had a lot of fun with this build in Solo BGs. Vamp still worth it (I like the ult, especially in king of the hill games)? Did you switch up the morphs to Wield Soul? I dont do team BGs and dont really do a lot of dueling, so I went with breach and replaced ele sus with endless fury. Gotta steal those KBs. LOL.
@@oreynbearclaw822 I swapped to force pulse for bg's and I use bloodspawn and just dawnbreaker. Hurricane and dark conversion back bar and use alliance spell power potions. Mages wrath instead of inner light front bar.
@@Fe7on Thanks. I know IL is strong, but Mages Wrath is just so satisfying. LOL. Did you drop vamp completely? I really liked the stam spammable, but with a mag spam, I feel like DC is a must for sustain.
heyo late to the party as always but i enjoyed your arca pB build- i now run that on my DK and venomous on my arca ^^ . So ranged sorc with stam spammable in BG still good ? i only have certain amounts of stuff for now so asking before i dive deep and then wasted all my shit XD
@@dasyeah2695 it is good. Especially for 1v1. But overall in bg's I prefer force pulse.
Any thought on good gear to use for the ranged build in No CP?
Yo what add on are you using to display your buffs on the left side and your debuffs on the right ? Looks very nice.
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Sup man, I’ve heard you mention the weapon dmg cap before, what’s the number? And it’s more of a soft cap than a true hard cap right. Ty
There is no wpn damage cap. But both crit damage and pen are typically more important in pvp.
the druid thing only shows 600/600 for me in the tooltip. did it get nerfed or is it based on some kind of progress in the quest line?
@@UaintDoxinme it got nerfed
looks similar to Emanthechosens 2h d swing build he made about 5-6 months ago
I mean Grahmster made it 8ish months ago technically. That's where we all got it from.
Not even using the class script… shock damage with the class script is literally better, and contingency is literally free burst so why would you not use maj breach then drop ele for contingency
I literally explain in the video why I don't run the class mastery, if your dumbass watched it you wouldn't have even typed this, also physical damage his harder on sorc than shock damage.
@@Fe7on you’re giving advice on sorc with a trash build and you got exposed by low level cps don’t ever say this is “meta”
@@oKeldeo lol exposed by who on low lvl cp? I've beat most the good players in dueling area on this build. Only Grahmster has beat me more times than I beat him.
Who are you? Feel free to come prove me wrong. You know where to find me.
contingency with warrior opportunity and force isnt a bad idea. but been there/tried that, losing balorgh and having to add recovery to jewelry ultimately just nets an overall loss in dps and balorgh is just better for burst combo, or immense pressure if you use vamp.
@@oKeldeoWhere's your build vid?
Is the balorgh,vamp ult,ralling,wreched build better than a mighti chudan,ralling,wreched whit overload???
@@gilfrog6401 I think so, but now that vamp is nerf'd probably not worth it anymore. Back to chudan or cheese jerral.
Does this new ability hit harder than asylum staff / crushing shock?
asylum staff honestly just isnt that good on sorc. it does nothing for your burst combo which is how you kill people and it forces you to run rally and shield on back bar with no inner light.
No, but it doesn't cost a 2 piece and there is really great major buffs/debuffs. I personally really like major vitality + class script. The class script makes it hit twice with that 2nd hit being AOE, helps to proc surge easier, and adds about 18% more damage.
@@MashMalloman i did try this and honestly wasnt a fan.
@@Fe7on just tested both setups. Asylum with lover / charged and crafty with shadow / sharpened on high elf. It’s pretty close to same damage but 3% up time on status effects with asylum but a smidge more burst with new ability by about 400ish. I don’t have class mastery script yet but that would hit way harder than at that point.
Would the 2h be better for duels?
Also is it true anything over 42k mag starts to diminish in difference? I’m not sure how much mag equals dmg if you could help me answer that thank you
Is sorc still king in duels?
Pretty much
still using physical dmg script over shock? saw somewhere that its bugged on tool tip and it doesnt actually hit harde. i also struggle with spam spammable in bgs, do you ever swap it out?
@@user-tl5od3yw3p I use force pulse in bg's most the time. More group pressure.
@@Fe7on gotcha! and should i still keep physical dmg script outside of bgs? i saw ulopi runs the shock one. curious on your thoughts about it
@@user-tl5od3yw3p he runs a different set up. My version is more for stacking defile's and building ult for vampire in 1v1. His is more for OW 1vx fights.
Insane
Do you have any nightblade build coming soon?
ill update nightblade eventually. not much has changed, just saint and seducer really.
@@Fe7on In you last nb video which was a while ago you were using shattered fate. I believe shattered and order's are still very good options although I heard you mentioning essence thief on a stream with 4 light pieces. Do you think that would be a good idea for solo pvp (cyro and bgs)?
@@flarie4931 it's just for 1v1. I prefer orders or shattered in bg/ow still.
Why not use shock damage for the sorc passive
The sorc passive is physical and shock damage.
17:34 where do u see the dps from the duel? and whats the addon name?
Top right of the screen. Combat metrics.
@@Fe7on thanksss
How are you procing wretched?
@@tusuperior1012 any major or minor buff or debuff procs wretched.
@@Fe7on which minor debuff do you have on your back bar to proc it?, thanks for the response
@@tusuperior1012 hurricane procs both major and minor and bound also aegis procs minor.
Does balorgh stack with overload ?
no, which is why i dont use it with overload
@@Fe7on ah yes fair enough, also how come no one ever runs the mages wrath execute?
@@Fe7on insane build btw I’m gonna try it out tomorrow night when maintenance is done
cp?
its in the video
@@Fe7onmy bad
Nice macros
Thanks, metallic monk thought me.
@@Fe7on At least you're honest. I use them too.
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