Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - #77 - Black Materia
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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0:00 - Welcome
0:24 - MAIN QUEST
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Cody Christian absolutely knocked it out of the park in this section. If you still weren't sure that he was the best voice actor for Cloud, this hopefully cemented it for you.
Game Awards Best Performance Prediction:
1. Kaiji Tang as Ichiban Kasuga, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth (Divided into 6 fields? Wins Actor in a Sole/Primary Playable Character Role)
2. Cody Christian as Cloud Strife, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Though, I wouldn't be TOO surprised by any of these first three winning the undivided field, I still think Kaiji Tang as Ichiban is the strongest bet. Jeurgens is the least likely of them because she's won before. Under the divided system I'd want that would make her a decent bet to win again, but the system they have ONLY works under a "one performer, one win" paradigm.)
3. Melina Jeurgens as Senua, Senua's Saga: Hellblade II (Divided into 6 fields? Wins Actress in a Sole/Primary Playable Character Role)
4. Dave B. Mitchell as Dyne, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (Divided into 6 fields? Wins Actor in an NPC Role)
5. Matthew Yang King as Eric Tomizawa, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth (Divided into 6 fields? Wins Actor in a Secondary Playable Character Role)
6. Dawn M. Bennett as Aigis, Persona 3 Reload
"We founds it, so it's OURSS! Our prrrreciousssssss!"
23:55 the fact that cloud is the only one 'following' aerith
I like the change in how Cloud has been handled and the loss of the Black Materia
19:20 Cloud's shoulders are shaking with the creepy laugh, just like the low poly model in OG. Very nice little detail.
39:34 - "Time's a wastin'!" - I feel like this is a direct reference to when Cloud said 'clock's ticking' from moments before; she did say she knew it was.
5:50 "I didn't except audience participation!!"
10:00 it was about this time i realized that Sephiroths plan is essentially
FF14 spoilers
"I'm gonna be an Ascian"
The story of this game is so weird, for like a dozen reasons but importantly, there's no real ticking clock, no pressure to continue going. Our party's goal in this game is stop Sephiroth, they spend the game following the black robbed folks because they know that there is some sort of connection between them and Sephiroth, then along the way because the goal of 'stop Sephiroth' is so vague and Sephiroth is so absent while at the same time omnipresent it becomes so easy to forget that that's our goal (and that's even during main story stuff this isn't counting the side activities). There isn't really a reason to feel like oh we gotta go do this now like it feels like there should be because every story bit is just things waiting for the party to get there and activate it,. Like say this temple, it was a big rush to get the keystone to get here and get the black materia before Shinra could, but they wouldn't get the keystone before us we had to go get it so they could take it from us (even though their employee had it there's no reason they couldn't just take it from him) then in the temple it needed a Cetran to activate it further which was us. And all of that on I still don't get why Sephiroth can't just get it himself in the first place, or at the end of the episode idk why Cloud needed to hand it to him.
Things get so disjointed because we forget the goal in the mists of the location stories that when we find the info for the black materia it's like oh yeah, then getting the keystone, and all the little moments of Sephiroth influencing Cloud feels so out of nowhere and sudden compared to the rest of this globetrotting adventure which is otherwise just an anti-Shinra thing, but then reminding you once every dozen hours that theres this supernatural story happening which everytime they start to explain it more questions are raised and something just refused to be explained. I'm kinda rambling now but as we get into the deepend now and the Sephiroth stuff is getting pushed to the forefront it, it annoys me how much I like this story when it is just the anti-Shinra adventure but with the Sephiroth stuff it brings back all the frustration from watching the original game and how both none of this makes sense and is just super duper frustrating as an experience storytelling wise
sephiroth just playing games huh lmao
This part of the game really confused me. Spoilers for the episode below...
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Was the black materia that they found a fake or not? Aerith calls it a fake, and Barret tosses it aside like it's trash. And of course Cloud is obsessed with it anyway, but he's basically a zombie by this point. But then Sephiroth suddenly steps in a grabs it and says it's the key to unlocking the true Black Materia, and suddenly Aerith thinks its important again? Was Sephiorth's description meant to be a Big Reveal of something that Aerith didn't fully understand until that point? If so, it certainly didn't really come across that way. And either way, if there was even a fraction of a doubt in the heroes minds as to what the supposedly "fake" Black Materia was still capable of, you'd think that after all that fighting and dungeon diving and nearly getting crushed, the team would still try to keep it safe just in case, right?
It feels like clumsy writing just for the sake of subverting audience expectations. And since Sephiroth was just going to get his hands on it anyway, why have them cast it aside just for him to pick it up and use it as a lure Cloud away, just to toss it back to him so that he can hand it over again? The way this scene was handled in the original game wasn't exactly elegant or straightforward either, but if the alternative was something this needlessly convoluted, I feel like the scene would have flowed a lot smoother if they had just done it more like in the original.
When Sephiroth picks up the black materia for the first time, he calls it a "key to access the true counterpart between worlds", so it isn't the actual black materia, but it is still important. Everything else is just Sephiroth toying with Cloud.
@@ArcturusDeluxe I put that much together eventually, but I still had to make a lot of assumptions to get there. The scripting and story-boarding of the scene could have conveyed this a lot more clearly than how it was presented. There just wasn't enough narrative weight put into that moment to convince me that any of our heroes truly believed what Sephiroth was saying. For the team's attitude to change as suddenly as it does for a narrative maguffin of this magnitude, you NEED to convey that with more than just one character saying "Give that back!" like a child who just had their toy stolen or something. As it was, it seems more like the rest of the team (and not just Cloud) were simply giving Sephiroth exactly what he wanted without putting any thought, care or effort into what they were doing, and it just felt out of character.
There's also no explanation as to why Sephiroth gives the materia back to Cloud, only to compel him to hand it right back over. The implication seems to be that, in that amount of time, the orb had somehow transformed into the real black materia. You could extrapolate that something symbolic about it being given directly from Cloud's hands is what makes it transform or unlocks the true black materia, but again, you have to make a LOT of assumptions for this part of the scene to make any sense. Nothing about what transpires in that moment (or any foreshadowing context clues earlier in the game) would suggest Cloud handing over the fake black materia to Sephiroth with his own hands could somehow transform it into the real one. And from the reactions on the characters' faces, to the way the black materia itself appears, there's no clear sign given to the audience that suggests that the physical materia orb itself had somehow changed from being the fake one to being the real one in that moment.
There's just this weird narrative disconnect between how Cloud and Sephiroth are acting and how Aerith, Barret, Tifa and the others are acting, and the way they all treat the black materia just seems to shift at random according to some invisible authorial hand that the audience isn't supposed to be able to see. And that authorial hand was ALL I could see in that moment. Because in scenes like this, the Big Bad ALWAYS gets away with the Maguffin to put his plans into motion. We all expected Sephiroth to get the materia in the end. What matters then is that the series of events leading up to that don't feel too out of sync with with the characters and story leading up to it. But between Barret and Aerith casually disregarding an artifact they clearly know nothing about and then barely batting an eye when it turns out they were wrong, to Sephiroth playing hot potato with Cloud and the black materia with no clear explanation, I feel like that's exactly what happened here.
@@KravenErgeist Cloud giving the fake Black Materia/key to the true one didn't magically transform it, it's just Sephiroth toying with Cloud by forcing him to personally hand it over
I feel like we've crossed the Nomura threshold. Next episode(s) to see what madness is in store. And then to not understand it for the next 5 years until part 3 comes out.
Once again, it was Nomura reining things in while the other devs want to push more. 🙄
Also, this is the last stop on the Claerith train, everybody off. We had a good run up till now.
Even with the Sephiroth puppeteering, she deserves better than a guy who treats her like this.
hi my name is Blake, and this is my materia:
31:07 Good lord, I hate it when they make you move like that. If you need to make a character do "I'm a meat puppet" stuff for story reasons, ok, make it a cut scene.
Make me the puppet of the game? That's a "won't buy, won't play if free'-level of nope. 😠
Exact opposite feeling here. Nothing shows that a character isn't in control of themselves quite like warping your controller inputs to make them do the thing
I disagree, I think showing him being dragged that direction works pretty well.
@@Sinnohfreak387 No, it shows that the player is not in control. This game has no strong player = character association as it is. I don't mind seeing Cloud under Sephiroth's influence (that's what the story demands here) but I am not and sunk cost is the only thing that made me get through.
There are numerous scenes where Cloud is under Sephiroth's influence but there is no button prompt to e.g. grab the black materia.
I just feel let down, this pretty much ruined the scene for me.
Cloud moves just like my teenage kids when I tell them they have to clean up their rooms.
Sepheroth really does feel more like a supernatural malevolence in the remake than he did in the original. Before he felt like he could plausibly be a person but now he feels more like a ghost that's possessing people. I'm not sure whether or not that adds to or detracts from his characterization. It definitely makes certain sequences feel dream-like, as though we the viewers can't really trust in what's real because there's this being that so clearly does not belong.
I think I really love elements to it. Because this is trying to make a new character of Sephiroth because the original version has really become a trope nowadays with most villains in media.
I could be biased as well because I love his new lines which add mystery and so much to his pettiness with mocking Cloud
For instance, SPOILER FOR ENDING
How Sephiroth mocks Cloud after Aerith's death by laughing at him as he sees Cloud's mind is breaking and then asks him while fighting whether all of this is a "fever dream" is just good shit.
I hate it. Right after the temple, he just popped up out of nowhere, grabbed the materia, gave it to cloud, made cloud give it back.... None of it makes sense at all.
@@DCHutch8 Right! This is what I was saying about the sequence feeling dream-like! Clearly there's elements that just do not belong and it makes me feel like we can't trust what we're seeing!
@@DCHutch8 my interpellation is that the apparition of Sepiroth isn't really Sepiroth. What he is doing, needs to do, is control Cloud. So he gives it to Cloud for him to give it back, to cement his control
@@sofiasoderstrand3094 None of the Sephiroths we've seen are really Sephiroth, but this one everyone else can see, which is a first. I've seen the theory about control, but it just doesn't make sense. Cloud literally wobbles towards him no matter which way you push the stick, there's no more 'cementing' that needs done.
8:00 I'm 100% sure that's an actual bugreport in some game somewhere: "The powerpoint system is spawning monsters"
Honestly, I don't love the fact that Sephiroth has the Black Materia, then gives it back to them, apparently only to toy with Cloud by making him take it away from Aerith by force; it feels gratuitous. That said, the way Cloud speaks to Aerith as he advances on her menacingly and she tries to get away is so chilling! He's like Jack Torrence in The Shining.
8:00 Dan, I'm pretty sure that's a feature, not a bug
21:37 Thank you Barret, someone has been needing to knock Cloud the hecc out
The use of making you play as Aerith during this is magnificent. It really runs it home that that ain't Cloud.
The Cait Sith scene was way better this time around.
chills realizing cloud is just. laughing during that demon gate fight. yikes
holy crap, never caught that
@@MiseFreisin it's hard to because there's so much going on! but watching dan play it I was able to hear it
I just noticed it! How long has he been snickering like that?! Like was it just starting with the Demon Wall duo or earlier in the temple?
@@LadyLunarSatine im not sure! No earlier than his “trial”, of that I’m sure. But i think he starts laughing like that just here in the demon gate fight
39:05 I love how destructive Marlene innocence is
Ain't no savage like a baby savage!
6:38 There's a theory stemming from this bit about Jenova wearing the faces of the dead. It suggests that the Sephiroth we've been chasing isn't really Sephiroth, it's merely Jenova assuming his likeness. In this sense, Sephiroth is as much a puppet as Cloud, and the true enemy pulling all the strings is Jenova. I don't know if I fully buy into it, but it does put a neat spin on things.
39:26 No spoilers, but this rainbow explosion is very important. Keep an eye out for more of them as we approach the finale.
I seem to remember them establishing this in the original game too.
I get this, but also Ultimanias have confirmed it’s Sephiroth in control of Jenova and her powers instead. I will certainly read fic that goes the other way but yeah.
I do think Sephiroth can do the same of imitating others however. But those parts of the OG aren’t yet reached in Rebirth, alas.
@@KravenErgeist Quite possibly. I honestly don't remember, and the clumsy localization makes some things difficult to parse regardless. This scene highlights the idea a little more substantially, I feel.
@@Caterfree10 I feel like after the events from Nibelheim, the line between Sephiroth and Jenova got considerably blurred. It might be easier to consider them both to be part of a sort of hive-mind, with the will and power of both Jenova, Sephiroth, and any other hapless souls she may have consumed along the way, forming into a singular monstrosity that can take on the form of either entity. =P
@@ZorlockDarksoul I do remember that we see Sephiroth's body frozen in a materia crystal in the northern crater, though I don't know whether it was his mind/soul/whatever projecting or manifesting his appearances elsewhere in the world, or Jenova doing the same. Either way, I do like the angle that Remake/Rebirth is going for that allows Sephiorth's likeness to be projected onto any of the dark robed figures wandering the world, as if they are all somehow connected to Sephiroth through Jenova's cells in their bodies. It's a really creepy and effective way to make a villain feel that much more dangerous and imposing.
7:54 It is a bit weird to be giving a presentation like this and going "HA-HA, have monsters to fight!" for no real reason.
10:56 One thing I find fascinating is that Sephiroth has always had this really eerie but undeniable charisma, but when Cloud's affected by him, Cloud is ultra-cold and snappy.
11:27 Disagree. "Forever" exists, but it cannot be measured, much like the expanse of space. Which, when it dies, is likely to collapse and be born anew in a cycle unending. Nor can you build for it, it is beyond mortal grasp.
12:05 Okay, that's a much cooler design for the Demon Gate.
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16:12 That chuckle from Cloud is... appropriately concerning.
18:40 His walk cycle is different, and not fatigue different. Very good touch.
19:15 Oh no, he's laughing.
22:22 What's sad is he's probably right. Shinra probably has insane planned obsolescence.
23:28 Aerith is still party lead, Cloud is not okay still.
23:38 Tifa, don't. He deserved the scorn, imo. I still appreciate the choice to scrap the bot so you guys can get out, but he did still betray you at the worst time for you guys and the best time for Shinra... *after* he did all that work to make you trust him.
24:50 He's a machine, a puppet. The guy behind the controls isn't dying, a machine is "dying".
25:55 I'm sorry, what? Also, man Cait Sith popped like a grape.
33:26 I feel like they're doing a thing here... but I'm not sure, and making a guess is OG spoilers.
36:19 Well I was wrong... in fact, I couldn't have been more wrong.
23:28 Two things about this escape that I really like: first, we once again control Aerith, which helps break the absolute connection between player and main character we often feel in games, where the character isn’t doing things, we are. But Cloud is increasingly doing things the player would not, and I like that we don’t control him here.
And second, it’s easy to miss but while everyone else starts running away immediately, Cloud stops and waits for Aerith. Which in another context could be sweet, but in this one is absolutely not. He even specifically turns around to face her while he waits
boy this is one of my favorite sequences in the game. chills rewatching it
Spoilers for the beginning of the episode:
A surprising number of japanese fantasy RPGs end up having a sudden "then aliens showed up to cause problems" plotline.
"Why do you always kill gods in JRPGs" by Moon Channel delves into this, if I remember correctly. It's pretty interesting why it happens so often.
That's just RPGs in general, not fantasy ones. The moment you need a bad guy in your sci fi RPG, you get aliens. Aliens only show up when there's technology. I have never seen aliens invade a magic fuedal society which most fantasy RPGs are.
@@Ahrpigi UA-cam says I watched this video but I don't remember any of it LOL.
Also, I'm geting dejavu, I think someone else recommended me that video specifically because I made a similar comment before.
@@nina9565 it's a long one! Sometimes if I click on something then UA-cam marks the whole video as watched, too.
Which honestly isn't surprising at all given Japan's history. Foreigners showing up and being terrible is often believed to be the point at which everything just kinda started going wrong for the country. And while that's definitely an over-simplification of the situation, it none the less has kinda become part of Japan's cultural collective consciousness. I think that's why it shows up all too often in media.
hearing the Cetra hologram be so callous about the Gi... I have NO sympathy for the end of the Cetra. they didn't even try to find the Gi some place new to go. Unless there's some research from Gast that proves otherwise.
I differently called something that came EXTREMELY close to happening but that wasn't it and now I'm extremely interested in what happens next
27:40 This scene is so weird, I feel like Barret should have a wayyy stronger reaction to seeing Cloud went back and grabbed the thing that was supposed to get buried, that the temple collapsed to protect. Like they all know he hasn't been himself, especially now, I really wish they would act like it more and address it
My biggest missed opportunity here... I'd have killed to get a Cait/Reeve trial of him dealing with the sector 7 collapse trauma and blaming himself for it
I really love all the animation detail that they put into Sephiroth and Cloud's eyes. It really helps to hammer home where their minds are at any given time. It's been going on the whole game, but these scenes really highlight it. One moment Cloud's pupils are tiny pinpoints, next they are as big as saucers depending on who he is talking to or if he is being manipulated.
Cetra exposition here is *fascinating*. The imagery at 7:22 is awfully similar to The Goddess from Loveless as we saw her portrayed by Jessie. And the three men at 2:33 look quite similar to Alphreid and his two fellow heroes. The implications are wild. To spell it out, it suggests the story of Loveless is based on a real story - a story where the supposed heroes are in fact the humans waging war against the Cetra (who were written to be the villains of the tale after the fact by the conflict's victors, as the tyrannical nation of Guardia). The "Hours Prior" sequences in the Temple of the Ancients, with the gears and clockwork and stuff, felt very similar to how Guardia was portrayed in the play. And the so-called Goddess seems to be Jenova? Her gift may very well be a curse in disguise, then. And then what about the superboss from Crisis Core, Minerva, who was implied by that game to be The Goddess? What's her deal?
(Speaking of Crisis Core, the logical conclusion that Genesis's interpretation of Loveless was way off base is very very funny to me. get rekt, poetry nerd)
Yes! The demon wall!
I never noticed clouds maniac like laughing lines during the Demon Gate fight when I played. What a nice touch.
Cody and Briana's best work in the entire game is coming up, you're going to love it
Everyone shut up, especially you Tifa, this does not redeem Cait Sìth, and also look, he's not dead. What on earth do you mean you feel bad about how you treated him. Cid is the only one who treats the return of Cait appropriately, by completely ignoring him and asking about the mission.
Yeah, he ought to be punted into the giant hole in the ground.
yeah, like how he's handled is better than in the original but that doesn't mean its amazing and he's a great character we should care about now, the bar was on the floor from the original Cait Sith and Rebirth just casually walked over it
Rebirth and original comparison by Playframe episode numbers:
Start to end - episode 22
I think that finally means we've finished with what episode 22 of the OG covered. Well, maybe the next part might still count, but the bulk of it is complete. Glad we did still get a Demon Gate fight.
I'd been waiting to comment until I saw more of the game towards the black materia event, but I really want to offer a counterpoint to how they are handling Cloud in this game. While the increased focus on his mental deterioration and Sephiroth's influence over him is great drama and goes a long way to foreshadowing the events of this episode, they go so hard and make it so obvious that it is honestly starting to damage the other characters. At this point, Cloud literally tried to murder another party member while under Sephiroth's control all the way back in Gongaga and was practically screaming at the party with a megaphone that things were getting worse throughout the temple. And yet, despite Tifa and Aerith especially clearly recognizing the danger, no one has any response other than 'Gee, maybe if we just keep saying eveything will be okay it will be.'
As I said before, I get why people like the change, it makes some really impactful, emotional moments, but some mid point between the two extremes so cloud isn't carrying around a neon sign saying 'I am a sleeper agent' would be nice.
Did anyone else catch clouds eerie evil laugh during the fight with Sephiroth? Its very obvious chasing Aerith but he seems to do it whenever he does a synergy ability.
The Cetra presentation and walkthrough was very reminiscent of the Shinra Presentation in the Museum at the Shinra building at the and of Remake
I was wondering how they were going to resolve Cait's bit here.
39:28 - Was that... Holy? Huh. I have no idea what's going on!
Load bearing materia
27:16 Good to know, time to kick you over the edge for betraying us.
38:48 Hold on, WHAT??? In this sequence of events she's never MET Cloud!
No, this is still after the bombings by Avalanche and Cloud meeting her.
@@timothystamm3200 in the main timeline Zach is already dead when Cloud joins Avalanche. In the one where he's alive, he just got to Midgar after the plate dropped; Cloud was never part of the group when Tifa and the others all died.
@Ahrpigi but everyone else already knows him and Biggs has already worked with him and no one thinks that's odd. I think the easier explanation is the timeline was only altered by moving Zach forward and putting Cloud with him besides the split after beating the whispers. Keep in mind that Cloud is being shown as wanted by Shinra with all of the Avalanche people.
27:25 The bar was on the ground for Cait Sith and this scene in the original and Rebirth does do better with him but the whole "sacrifice" is still totally undermined by him coming back immedietly. In this format I feel like they should have let him stay dead for now, and then make a return in game 3. Also Tifa and Aerith's "I feel bad for how we treated him" thing, no no you shouldn't just because he came in in the last second and helped doesn't make up for what he did and you shouldn't feel bad
Cait Sith's sacrifice was always supposed to feel cheap. In the original, the purpose is to set the player's expectations that the heroes have plot armor, only to pull the rug out from under you later.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter I get why they would want to do that for later things but it’s still bad that they do it. I’d rather they just let the player keep those expectations (that they brought in) and let them go unfulfilled than introduce this character to do this bad story stuff with for that purpose
Dan: I Suddenly Dont Understand Anything And Am Currently Casting Sincere Doubt On The Laughable Insinuation That I Or Anyone Else Ever Actually Did For Even A Single Moment
39:20 Zack setting a got example.
39:28 The hell was that?
40:19 Oh. Oh she knows what's going on. Oh dear. Not sure how to feel about that.
I wonder if fighting against the pull long enough you'd actually break out of it?
Cloud creeped me the hell out during this part so good on the animators and Cody Christian for nailing it.
The final game is definitely being called Reunion isn't it
I really don't understand the change from Cloud giving Sephiroth the black materia, to Sephiroth just gets the materia, then gives it to Cloud, so Cloud can... give it right back?
31:41 There is nothing heterosexual about this moment. Most importantly, Sephiroth was in possession of the Black Materia. He could have taunted Cloud with it any way he chose. Why make Cloud reach for it oh so desperately and offer it to Sephiroth on his knees? Come now. The devs absolutely have seen the art and the fic at this point. 👀
Also, I learned an interesting rumor in that supposedly, some of the devs who worked on Mobius Final Fantasy, a now defunct mobile game cursed by a worse than average gacha (not even a pity system! When Genshin does better at gacha, you know you’ve screwed up). And it’s a crying shame that crappy gacha dragged it down because the original story was honestly really great. Seriously, please look up a cutscene compilation one of these days!
Anyway, so sometimes crossover events happened featuring other Final Fantasies, and VII got 2 as the golden child of Square. One of them, however, gave us an absolutely infamous scene featuring Sephiroth pinning Cloud with darkness, forcing him into a kneeling position, then #%^*ing caressing Cloud’s face while lovingly calling him his puppet. This scene from a gacha game lit the entire Sefikura shipping side of the fanbase on fire and it regularly circulates on our assorted timelines on social media. And if the aforementioned rumor about devs from this later being on Rebirth is true? Yeah, the devs know EXACTLY which fanbase has the most money and what we love in Sefikura to boot lmao.
(The love triangle folks are also being strung along too, make no mistake. Y’all just aren’t waking up to the why a canon ship has never been declared in FFVII for Cloud lmfao.)
*spray bottle*
Not to mention the particular tone Sephiroth used to praise him just recently. 😆 I could practically hear the keyboards clacking when that happened.
@@kneauapply that to Square Enix, not me, I’m just reading what Square is writing. :p
@@AhrpigiSquare knows exactly what they’re doing and which fans they’re appealing to lmfao. 😁
As for the temple and the black materia... Personally, if there were an apocalyptic superweapon that I was unable to destroy, and could only lock it up somewhere? Look, traps and guardians are good, but I feel like I'd rather just build the place as a solid block without hallways or vents of any kind, and without any key or other way to ever open it again. After all isn't the point to lock it up forever? 😝
How you gonna make the block impossible to get into or destroy? If it was made it can be unmade, after all
@@XTheUnchosenOneX true, nothing is ever *truly* secure. But a solid cube ten thousand tons of magically reinforced concrete, covered in warnings about how the contents will literally destroy the entire planet and kill every living thing on it feels like a real solid effort to me. 😉 "This is not a place of honor", ect.
@@AhrpigiWarnings about how it’s going to destroy the planet probably will not deter Sephiroth, is my guess.
And it’s already hidden in a temple that doesn’t exist without the keystone, is further protected by a lock (or series of locks) only a Cetra can get through, and once more by the whole temple crushing down into non-existence when it’s removed. I kinda feel like that’s the magical equivalent of burying it under concrete
@@XTheUnchosenOneX you make good points, can't really disagree. :)
Alas, if only they could have yeeted it onto space