An American Classic The Remington model 12 Part 1
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2024
- Lets venture back to the past. Way back to the very early 1900's when John Pederson designed the Remington model 12 pump action .22. In this video I'll be sharing a nice little model 12 with you at my 50 yard range, and also show you an older version I am trying to restore. So come along and lets take a trip into the past.
I to Sir have a Mod 12 in22 SPECIAL, got it for my birthday about 1960. Just turned76 last month it has aged just liked me but it still works unlike me.
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I'm sure it is a fine little rifle and dear to your heart. Have you been able to find any ammo in .22 Special for it?
Ahhh the sound of a pump .22. wish they built .22's like that again. Still love my old Rossi pump .22 I have. Bought it used when I was 16 years old. I don't believe I'll ever sell it
Cherish it!
One of my Favorite little 22's, I have an Excellent Early model 12C with Cresent Butt Plate and Octogonal Barrel it Belonged to my Great Uncle . I also have a Remington model 121 with is a newer version of the 12.Great stuff!!
They are indeed neat little rifles. It seems you haven't yet seen my other videos where I featured both my model 12, and 121. Here is the link to my latest one.ua-cam.com/video/4mX_jlBOdFU/v-deo.html You will probably enjoy these videos if you liked this one. 😊
I have two of them also. One was my grandpa’s , It is a full length octagon barrel , steel butt plate model-C rifle made in as far as I can figure 1909. The other one is a round barreled carbine with the plastic butt plate model-A that was made in 1920 I think. I bought it off of the county drunk, He needed drinkin’ money. I told him I would put it in my gun safe and he could have it back anytime for what I gave for it. In the meantime he passed away so I ended up with something to remember him by. They both function perfectly and are in good shape. REST IN PEACE OLEN!!!!!!!!! SHOOT SAFE!!!!!!!!!
Cool story! Thanks for sharing.
Enjoyed very much and great info. Thanks again ( tips are appreciated also)
Thanks for the nice comment. It's folks like you that make the effort worthwhile, and your appreciation is well noted.
Looking forward to the rebuild, what a beautiful rifle to restore. I have no experience with the model 12 but it looks to be a fun little rifle, can't wait to see the finished squirrel rifle.
Love That Ol Remington Model 12 That Was Really Awesome Of Your Collecting Friend To Loan His Prestine Model 12 For This Fine Video 😀😇😊👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Great Job Mr Cumberland Outdoorsman 😊
He has quite the collection, so I wanted to give him credit for his generosity.
👍👍thanks for sharing 👍 I really like those old firearms pretty cool little 22 rifle
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
I think .22s are the most fun to shoot.
You seemed to be enjoying yourself. You have a very healthy leisure interest.
I absolutely love to shoot and hunt with older guns. They just seem to have a certain feel and quality to them.
Hope you’ll do another video and show us how the restoration of your model 12 turns out.
Me too, it is a challenge.
I just got one today and can't wait to try it out
Nice history of old 22s
I like it with the original finish, character.
Old guns do have that kind of appeal.
Can't wait to see the Pump Rifle your working on when your shooting it. Good luck.
I am hoping for the best with that rifle.
Another most informative and enjoyable addition to your Twenty-Two Series! Truly, the Remington 12/121 models, along with the Winchester's 61 and the FN/Browning Trombones, were the epitome of the .22 pump rifles. All machined steel and walnut and masterful craftsmanship.
Remington introduced Kleanbore priming about 1927 and thus began the salvation of .22 bores everywhere. High Speed ammo arrived about 1930 and of course extended the utility of the .22 in the field. Both your wonderful examples predate these watershed events. You mention using standard velocity. Great choice. While the Rem 121s were cleared for high speed, I think one would do well to spare these early gems the added strain of the increased pressure loads most commonly available today. (Did I just use "available" in reference to .22 ammo?!!) Townsend Whelan (Dean of American gunwriters), in a pre-Great War treatise on shooting, stated that he was aware of no cleaning regimen that would ultimately protect a well used .22 bore from the ravages of the corrosive primers! From this I would guess that your 1911 octagonal barrel is a classic victim. I'm certain all your fans await updates on the restoration project. Again, we enjoy and appreciate your efforts.
Thank you Frank. I always appreciate your input because you are well educated in the history of older vintage firearms, and it certainly shows. I will do my best in restoring that old model 12. I can only hope things work out the way I want them to. Take care, and keep shootin'.
I'm 66 years old but all my favorite gun designs are older than I am.
As always a fun and interesting video thanks for keeping these old guns alive
Just got my dad’s old model 12 .22 I’m cleaning it now as we speak, so pumped to have it.
I knew it would not take you long to find that bolt. She is on her way. Looking forward to seeing the completed project.
I am still looking for another bolt since I have two rifles, and only 1 bolt. So please keep an eye out for a flat firing pin style breech block. Thanks Wayne.
Great review with the history of this grand old Remington. Great shooting on your part too!
Your story of the person who, due to the economic realities of his day, had to buy his 22's loose instead of by the box really struck me. I remember stories from my father who was responsible for acquiring meat for his family at age 10. He stated that he preferred to purchase 22 shorts as they were a few pennies cheaper (1950's) per box than the 22 long rifles, due to his harsh economic realities too. They still killed rabbits, squirrels and raccoons just as well.
I need to remember these hardships whenever I feel like complaining about anything. Lord knows I don't have any excuse to complain.
Thank you for sharing your father's story., and the kind words. I always appreciate hearing stories from the past. They are a reminder of just how good we have it now, and that things can get much worse in a very short amount of time. I also still use the .22 short quite often, and you are quite correct, they are very effective on game. Best wishes to you and yours.
REALLY LIKE ALL YOUR 22 VIDEOS FYI. YOU TUBE VIDEOS AVAILABLE ON THE MAS 45 AND ROMANIA 1969. BOTH EXTREMELY ACCURATE WEAPONS. THANK YOU SIR FOR YOUR TIME AND KNOWLEDGE SHARING
Love all your video's mostly because I can definitely relate! I've got a nice collection as well,but my channel hasn't kicked in real well just yet, working on it.....! My collection consist of Remington mod. 12,25,121,141,760,7600! I grew up on the 760 300 savage deer hunting at 14 yrs old, it was my dads rifle & now I'm 60 & out of 80 or so firearms that I own that 760 is & always will be my favorite! Ty for all you do & for doing it with class!
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
Thank you my friend.
Great video of a beautiful Remington Model 12. I think you should take your
most accurate Remington Rimfire rifle and compete at the NRL competition at Fort Campbell.
I’m pretty sure my dad had one with an octagon barrel. In 22 WRF. Now CCI makes that round again.
I want one again. Should have never sold my round barrel version
thank you so much, you couldn't have packed more info, I to have a model 12 octagon, on to part 2
Where on earth or otherwise did you find a Model 12 in such good shape. You must have restored it. I have never seen one that did not look like it was rode hard and put up wet.
The featured rifle I shot in this video belongs to a friend of mine that collects old .22's. As you stated, most of these old guns are in rough shape when you find them, but there are a few left that are still in good shape.
I enjoy all your videos I learn a lot from them. I would like your help if you don’t mind if you can. I have a Remington model 12A made in 1924 it has problem it won’t feed the cartridge from the loading tube to the barrel it feeds it but won’t feed it in the barrel. If you could help me figure out the problem it would be appreciated very much Thanks
thanks for the video. I'm an older guy too and my eyes just aren't as good as they were during my youth. My question is do the Peep Sights help with your ability to see the target more clearly or do they kind of obstruct your field of view?
Good Video, Great Rifle. I've never heard of using Mineral Oil for Firearms lubricant. I believe you but what is the advantage? Thank You. I love all the old Rifles, they were made great.
Mineral oil is the active ingredient in most commercial gun lubricants. You can buy a 2 ounce bottle of "gun oil" for $5.00, or instead you can get a 16 ounce bottle of pure mineral oil for $1.00 without any toxic ingredients. The advantage is that one bottle will probably last you forever, and it won't harm the finish of your gun when you use it like I did in the video.....very sparingly. Thanks for the question, I think I'll make a video on gun care and maintenance in which I will go over the use of mineral oil.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman For the wood handles of garden tools do you recommend boiled linseed oil or mineral oil?
@@eb1684 For wood handles, boiled linseed oil is tough to beat. I apply it to wood with an old rag and let it soak in. Mineral oil is best used on metal in a very thin sheen because it stays adhered to the surface rather well, and as far as I can tell it has never damaged the wood furniture on my guns after I wipe them down. I can't say that about other name brands of gun oil, in fact I have seen some fine gunstock finishes ruined by certain "gun lubes".
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I'm getting some mineral oil. And what's really good it doesn't hurt the Wood Stock. Thank you very much.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I've used 3in1 oil for a long time. My uncle told me it is very good for lubricant on Firearms. Thank you very much.
Since you're going to have to re-line the barrel, why don't you mill grooves in the action to install a scope. Then you can really see how the liner turned out.
I just watched your video on the Model 12. I have one that my father had when he was young. Are the serial numbers consecutive? I would like to know how old it is. Mine is a WRF chamber.
I really enjoy your videos you're a down to earth guy just as I am love your hunting videos especially was wondering how I could contact you I have some questions about refinishing stocks I would like your advice thanks
Is the Henry pump any good? I want the .22 magnum version.
I need help identifying my rifle. I don’t see a model number on the barrel. The SN starts with RW. When you take it down there is a D on the same side as the SN that SN matches the SN on the outside bottom of trigger assembly. Below the pump on the right side of the slide tube there is a n s. On the left side of the octagonal barrel there is a p and a letter just below it I can’t quite make out.
Do you reline the barrel yourself? I reclined a 32-20 colt revolver barrel once.
where can I get parts to restore grandads mdl 12 ?
I found good quality parts from Jack First. They specialize in old model .22 parts. They also deliver very fast.
Mod 12 i a great L ittel rifel
what is the difference between LONG & LONG RIFLE cartridges!!!!
The .22 Long is actually a full length .22 case with a shorter (usually 29 grain bullet) and the .22 Long Rifle has a full length case with a heavier bullet,- 30, 32, 36, 38, 40 and 42 grain bullets usually driven at 1,100 - 1,600 feet per second. Sub-Sonic LR, Standard velocity, High velocity, and Hyper velocity loadings in solid point and hollow point bullets come to mind, so more power with a longer bullet with a wide array of variations are available in .22 Long Rifle.
The "long" is an extended length "short". Same load and bullet as a "short", just a longer case.
I have a model 12c
Wipe off the rod every pass.
Copy of a Winchester model 1906 .
Negative. 1906 is a hammer gun
The Winchester model 61 is the most similar but the M12 preceded it.
@@marshmutt8975 That's another rifle I am trying to get hold of for a video presentation. I might know where to get one.
@@marshmutt8975 but what I am saying the whole concept started with Winchester.