Welcome to the La Bataille universe! 💂🏻♀️ Clash of Arms has Dresden, Ligny, Quatre Bras, Moscowa, and Mont St Jean in stock. Preowned copies can be found online.
Something that makes it easier to tell which units belong to which side, is that the unit counters for the Foes of Napoleon have their strength and movement numbers in Gothic font.
I actually picked up the old version because of the Alexander at Waterloo expansion. Heavier than I'd normally go for either tactical or Napoleonic, but I couldn't pass the opportunity to throw Macedonians at Wellington.
Despite the word quibbling in the community, OSG's Library of Napoleonic Battles is STRICTLY OPERATIONAL. There are a few odd, tactical-esque wrinkles in those games (and add a bit of flavor, too!), but as the system doesn't deal with facing, formations, and weapon type differentiations, and the hex scale (525 yards, twice the most optimistic effective range for smoothbore musketry) isn't granular enough to factor in infantry range and tactical flanks, they just cannot be termed tactical games. They just *aren't*. That said, let's get down to Mont St. Jean!!! :) You did real well with the Clouseau-like "frenchifying" of terms in the LaBatt milieu: you pronounced the names and places quite creditably, sir!! C'est bon! That grey-covered rulebook is a 5th Edition (see the "logo" in the lower center of the cover page). You cover many of the problems associated with the tolerance of multiple rule sets. I am truly amazed at how popular this system remains when it just shoots itself in the foot with the unnecessary confusion caused by having to learn (and distinguish differences between) multiple rule sets. I mean, what happens if you get two players or teams eager to play, but one only likes "Marie Louise" and the other insists on "5th Edition" [or Reglements]??? If you can't solve the impasse, you can't play the game. Just flabbergasts me that the designer(s) don't have a solid viewpoint on their own 40-year old system. Just make a decision already, and stand by it!!!! One of the (annoying) subtleties of the counters is, the Prussian units use a "germanic" font style for the increment numbers, where the French use a different font. **Subtly** different, and to my eye, **not different enough** when you've got a tangle of units with dark blue uniforms vying for position on the map. Also with the many "green jacketed" cavalry for the various combatants. Still, despite all these seemingly carping comments, this package, and the series as a whole, are still tempting for me. I own two of the games (Quatre Bras [2nd Ed] and Vauchamps, which came in Against the Odds magazine), and often drop in on Eric's playcast streams on Tuesdays to try to get a sense of the flow. Never say never, eh....?
The DG-esque decision to print "Les Batailles dans L'age L'Empereur Napoleon Ier" on the box of a deluxe second edition was the first thing that caught my eye.
@@kenx8176 What's that got to do with anything?? DG is not known for slathering French (or anything else) on the covers of their boxes. And the "1er" refers to Napoleon the First, not to the edition of the game.
@@Stiglr It's a comment on the fact that the French is wrong and that they chose not to fix it, even when making a new box cover for the deluxe second edition. What company is notorious for not fixing known errata in the first edition when putting out a new edition? (It took me a while to figure out what you are saying about "1er", because I had not mistaken "1er" as a reference to "first edition.")
@@kenx8176 More likely, they never even noticed it is incorrect, nor bothered to have it checked by a native speaker. They wouldn't be the first company to do that (can't believe I'm giving DG "an out" on *anything*)! 😄
La Bataille counters look like Ben and Gerry's ice cream shop. Not sure which side I want to play. I think I'll try the less rich Waterloo 1815 Fallen Eagles game from Hexasim, which has two-scoop maps, not four.
You will find all the games have good intro scenarios. As for the rules seems most use fifth edition or the regs xxx. In. Moscowa is Marie Louise rules and marshal is the Premiere rules.
On the back of the MSJ box it says it comes with the Marie Louise rules but in the box are the 5th Edition. Even CoA dont' know which rule set to use LOL
What will be your approach to learning this system? I have dabbled with La Bataille but have yet to get fully immersed in the games. It would be interesting to see how a veteran wargammer approaches a new system.
James I know you didn’t ask me but I’m currently doing a deep dive as I call it. No real magic. All the games have good intro scenarios. I used the rules in the box. Watched some you tube videos. Also on FB of your on join the La bataille page lots of knowledge there.
@@jameswitmer5900 eventually some. As Gary mentioned Eric’s channel is great he interviewed him I recommend a watch. For a really deep dive search La bataille considered he has a whole series devoted also
@@clarkcommando1983 I will keep an eye out for your videos. I look forward to them. I have seen some of Eric's videos and they are interesting to watch but one needs to have some experience with the game to fully understand what is happening. I did watch the La Bataille considered series a while ago. I will probably need to check it out again. Thanks.
Wow what an unboxing for Thanksgiving! Happy thanksgiving all.
Welcome to the La Bataille universe! 💂🏻♀️ Clash of Arms has Dresden, Ligny, Quatre Bras, Moscowa, and Mont St Jean in stock. Preowned copies can be found online.
Stay tuned.
Indeed. Let me know when you want to play.
Something that makes it easier to tell which units belong to which side, is that the unit counters for the Foes of Napoleon have their strength and movement numbers in Gothic font.
A Grey Rooster is an excellent vendor. The prices are also exceptionally good.
Such nice detail for Château d'Hougoumont! Great unboxing!
Eric Holgren is playing Ligny hour by hour, week after week just after your Monday night live stream.
That was great to wake up to, thanks.
Awesome unboxing! Was looking forward to this! Happy Thanksgiving!
Great unboxing! 😄
I actually picked up the old version because of the Alexander at Waterloo expansion. Heavier than I'd normally go for either tactical or Napoleonic, but I couldn't pass the opportunity to throw Macedonians at Wellington.
Wellington heard to say: "What the fuck?"
Whep now I have to get it. Serves me right for watching- “just for fun…”
Looks like a Mark I Combat Knife - US Navy - very nice!
Despite the word quibbling in the community, OSG's Library of Napoleonic Battles is STRICTLY OPERATIONAL. There are a few odd, tactical-esque wrinkles in those games (and add a bit of flavor, too!), but as the system doesn't deal with facing, formations, and weapon type differentiations, and the hex scale (525 yards, twice the most optimistic effective range for smoothbore musketry) isn't granular enough to factor in infantry range and tactical flanks, they just cannot be termed tactical games. They just *aren't*. That said, let's get down to Mont St. Jean!!! :)
You did real well with the Clouseau-like "frenchifying" of terms in the LaBatt milieu: you pronounced the names and places quite creditably, sir!! C'est bon!
That grey-covered rulebook is a 5th Edition (see the "logo" in the lower center of the cover page). You cover many of the problems associated with the tolerance of multiple rule sets. I am truly amazed at how popular this system remains when it just shoots itself in the foot with the unnecessary confusion caused by having to learn (and distinguish differences between) multiple rule sets. I mean, what happens if you get two players or teams eager to play, but one only likes "Marie Louise" and the other insists on "5th Edition" [or Reglements]??? If you can't solve the impasse, you can't play the game. Just flabbergasts me that the designer(s) don't have a solid viewpoint on their own 40-year old system. Just make a decision already, and stand by it!!!!
One of the (annoying) subtleties of the counters is, the Prussian units use a "germanic" font style for the increment numbers, where the French use a different font. **Subtly** different, and to my eye, **not different enough** when you've got a tangle of units with dark blue uniforms vying for position on the map. Also with the many "green jacketed" cavalry for the various combatants.
Still, despite all these seemingly carping comments, this package, and the series as a whole, are still tempting for me. I own two of the games (Quatre Bras [2nd Ed] and Vauchamps, which came in Against the Odds magazine), and often drop in on Eric's playcast streams on Tuesdays to try to get a sense of the flow. Never say never, eh....?
The DG-esque decision to print "Les Batailles dans L'age L'Empereur Napoleon Ier" on the box of a deluxe second edition was the first thing that caught my eye.
@@kenx8176 What's that got to do with anything?? DG is not known for slathering French (or anything else) on the covers of their boxes. And the "1er" refers to Napoleon the First, not to the edition of the game.
@@Stiglr It's a comment on the fact that the French is wrong and that they chose not to fix it, even when making a new box cover for the deluxe second edition. What company is notorious for not fixing known errata in the first edition when putting out a new edition? (It took me a while to figure out what you are saying about "1er", because I had not mistaken "1er" as a reference to "first edition.")
@@kenx8176 More likely, they never even noticed it is incorrect, nor bothered to have it checked by a native speaker. They wouldn't be the first company to do that (can't believe I'm giving DG "an out" on *anything*)! 😄
There very few, if any, board wargames that convey the visual splendour that the La batt games do. Napoleonic miniatures in cardboard form.
Welcome aboard to a really fun system imho. As you know I’m doing a deep dive
Do you have Dresden ? Such a beautiful map in them all but Dresden is breath taking
I do. When I decided to do LaBat, I ordered whatever was still available from Clash of Arms.
I have four of the La Batalile games I haven’t played yet, I am fighting the urge to get this one. Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
La Bataille counters look like Ben and Gerry's ice cream shop. Not sure which side I want to play. I think I'll try the less rich Waterloo 1815 Fallen Eagles game from Hexasim, which has two-scoop maps, not four.
You will find all the games have good intro scenarios. As for the rules seems most use fifth edition or the regs xxx.
In. Moscowa is Marie Louise rules and marshal is the Premiere rules.
On the back of the MSJ box it says it comes with the Marie Louise rules but in the box are the 5th Edition. Even CoA dont' know which rule set to use LOL
great show😀
What will be your approach to learning this system? I have dabbled with La Bataille but have yet to get fully immersed in the games. It would be interesting to see how a veteran wargammer approaches a new system.
James I know you didn’t ask me but I’m currently doing a deep dive as I call it. No real magic. All the games have good intro scenarios. I used the rules in the box. Watched some you tube videos. Also on FB of your on join the La bataille page lots of knowledge there.
@@clarkcommando1983 Thanks for the response. Will you be creating any content of your deep dive?
@@jameswitmer5900 eventually some. As Gary mentioned Eric’s channel is great he interviewed him I recommend a watch. For a really deep dive search La bataille considered he has a whole series devoted also
@@clarkcommando1983 I will keep an eye out for your videos. I look forward to them. I have seen some of Eric's videos and they are interesting to watch but one needs to have some experience with the game to fully understand what is happening. I did watch the La Bataille considered series a while ago. I will probably need to check it out again. Thanks.
@@jameswitmer5900 make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss it.
Gr Roost won’t hand you games. Very frustrating.
Sold out at Noble Knight.
I hesitated and lost
Keep checking Gray Rooster. Or order directly from Clash of Arms.