I think the fatal flaw of multiplayer Minecraft is, ironically, Realms. When it's just you and one other person you trust on a long-term world, only playing when you're both active, ideally when you both meet up IRL, that's peak multiplayer.
Even when my friends are in the "two week Minecraft phase", I often end up still dedicating more time to my long-term world. Since it's all temporary, it can feel pointless doing anymore than the bare minimum - building a small base, gathering up to full iron, etc. to be sociable.
Yeah this was always how I felt joining a friends world and knowing they'd stop playing, why put time into it if you're gonna lose it for no reason in 2 weeks?
Feel like I have the best of both worlds. I have a 2000+ day realm with my brother and a friend and we all get in different times doing our own thing building solo but when we happen to be on at the same time we do exploratory type stuff like trial chambers or collecting smithing templates. Most building gets done when we are on by ourselves and then we have fun showing stuff off when we are all on. I think the important thing is just finding people who want to take it as seriously as you and respect your builds and don’t grief.
@ we play on a realms server. It’s like $8 a month but you have an always online world for up to 10 people to play on so the host doesn’t have to be on for everyone else to get on
In the beginning you're forgetting about anti-grief measures for servers, like backups, and the Essential mod for Java, both of which make multiplayer way easier with little to no effort. I agree with a lot of other things here though
Exactly. I play on a public SMP that has anti griefing measures. Sure there have been griefers but they get stopped very quickly and it’s all back to normal after they get banned.
My son & I played on a LAN, just the two of us. He spent more time trying to kill me rather than gathering resources and building. He was 19; I thought he'd be more practical about setting up the base 😄 Other than that, I've always played alone.
@@Hyperforg do what I do, take a computer with an intel celeron 450 cpu, install a random linux distro on it, and set up a fabric minecraft server onto it.
I only play single player right now. And my reasoning is.... when you get a group of people. There is always that one person. Who ruins it for everyone
Insert that one friend who speedruns the game in 20 minutes then proceeds to build a super overpowered villager trading farm within the next hour... Yeah, there's always that one person who ruins it.
honestly, seems like a case of comparing the absolute worst server type for new players to join to a standard single player server. Just really disingenuous to the actual argument being made here.
I agree. He acts like every public server is an anarchy server and that couldn’t be farther from the truth. I actually play a public SMP and it has no griefing and no stealing. People who do try to grief and steal get banned almost immediately.
Yeah, but these constructed, highly moderated servers are not Minecraft the game as intended by the original developers. They are something completely new. When the developers were imagining multiplayer Minecraft they were imaging groups of up to 12 (probably less) people playing on a world together hanging out. Not scripted game modes.
@@pseudonymos_ How does that any of that matter here tho? “How the developers intended” is an empty phrase. It’s a sandbox game, the definition of do whatever you want the game. Minecraft the game is whatever the people playing it make it. That’s how the sand box genre works.
@@BroKenYaKnow You got it on the nose, but you don't see my perspective! Minecraft is a game where people do whatever they want. When you put a large group of people together online and tell them to whatever they want it will inevitably lead to anarchy. The only way to stop this is for someone to implement rules.
I did picked up Minecraft during the pandemic to play with my siblings. Then I learned my bf also played with his sibling. A couple months later, we took all siblings to a Minecraft Exhibit😂
So I have a silly idea that’s been keeping me coming back consistently. I know I want to have kids someday so I’ve been working on a world with tons of builds I want to pass down to them eventually. So I usually hop on once a week at the minimum and do a build and it’s been coming along.
Also yeah it’s frustrating when people hop off and the world dies. I want something like a 2b2t equivalent on bedrock where it’s like a full map no restrictions with tons of people on it consistently. If anyone knows of anything like that on Minecraft bedrock on Xbox let me know.
I agree with some points. The ‘circle of multiplayer’ is exactly right, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. My friends and I go through this cycle, getting to about 500 days before loosing interest, and starting a new world when we feel like some MC. Plus griefing isn’t a universal multiplayer issue, as far as I remember none of us have ever intentionally harmed someone else’s project
I played minecraft for only 4 year but I'm extremely bored of this game I think its because I actually prefer to play games like terraria but I have no friends to play terraria :(
I have recently been playing minecraft on a world with a friend, and it gives me so much more inspiration. We've been playing for months! I think its not about if its multiplayer or not, its about having the right friends who won't give up after 2 weeks
I agree with the title, not with the execution. Showing only one server of each type is disingenuous. You can certainly have a server with friends for over 1000 days. Showing an open anarchy server as proof that it's impossible is misleading.
It's not often you get invited to an almost exactly 1000 day old world, it was a cheeky comparison but you'd never see a single player world look like the anarchy mess!
@@toycat That's probably the point you should have said then if that's what you meant. You think anarchy servers are bad (that's fine, I don't really like them either. Have whatever opinions you want if you're having fun). Not liking anarchy servers doesn't mean all multiplayer bad, and that's the point that came across from your presentation here. It's misleading and your response here seems a lot like you're doubling down on that or at the very least deflecting. You also wouldn't have "that anarchy mess" on an smp with rules. Not all multiplayer servers are made or run the same.
@@toycat I agree, but such as people can agree to have no rules, they can also agree to have rules. That's why the comparison is misleading- cause you can have 1000 day multiplayer world be just as good as a single player one. You should have checked/showed more worlds of both types and then made you argument about multiplayer being less good
@@GeekNewz the reason for the comparison as it existed, were that these were the two worlds that were sent to me with 1000ish days played. I could've sought out a specifically decent multiplayer server, but that's a very odd request to make if I'm actually trying to show real worlds lol
As a long time player who'd played multiplayer survival since beta, let me tell you, the two things I hate the most is when a map gets reset or when the server shuts down. This was such a common thing that it has put me off playing multiplayer for nearly a decade now.
I started playing during COVID and Minecraft became my number one game of all time. I play alone and I like it just like that, I have complete freedom to build wherever I want, keeping things neat and tidy. When I build I do in peaceful mode.
The problem I have with multiplayer is that I never found people who were as involved as I was, which meant everything ended quickly. Now I play multiplayer from time to time but without focusing on a specific world, just for fun.
Single player is just lonely, I play with my brother and since It is not a realm we both play at the same time and It never feels like a ghost town because we share a main base and both work on everything making you not have something like Bobs house without Bob online.
I prefer playing multiplayer honestly. I have two public servers I main. One is a protected SMP and the other is an Anarchy server. Both let me build whatever I want one has rules and grief protection the other doesn’t. It’s more fun for me to play with other people and see their creations while making my own. I know you don’t like anarchy servers but they do have their beauty. It’s beauty in chaos and the beauty that nothing lasts forever it’s meant to show the various ways people are. In anarchy servers you think everyone is rude or mean but that’s just not the case. Sometimes anarchy servers bring the good out of people and you see established players helping the new ones, you see random people becoming friends and building huge bases together. It’s a type of server you need to actively play to truly understand. Too many often make judgements on those servers without even understanding them. And not every public SMP is like that. Many have build protection like my favorite Novylen. Novylen is an old server that allows people to build bases and sell things in shops without fear of griefing and stealing.
Agreed on the title I've played milions more hours alone thay with anyone You can't really have a multiplayer world Cause people eventually leave it behind On signleplayer you can go back whenever you want
The single player use for the tipped arrows is in Redstone contraptions, challenges, or because you hate brewing. Redstoners can find a niche use case for every obscure item and mechanic in the game. Challenges like your structureless super flat. You could cure a zombie villager that has the fletcher profession even though you don't have the flint to make a fletching table. This is the only way to get a lot of these potion effects. The last reason is for people like me who hate the brewing system with a passion and would prefer to spend so, so many hours collecting a fletcher selling each potion arrow just so you don't have to ever brew again. I keep a bunch of slow falling arrows on top of a tall tower in my world so I can glide slowly with the elytra and get a good Birds Eye view of my world without zooming past everything. Fire resistance arrows for the Nether, weakness arrows to cure villagers, healing arrows for bonus damage against undead, and harming to heal them back up if I have a use for them. Unlimited potion effects all without brewing a single potion. I'm currently trying to get a fletcher that sells the new tipped arrow of weaving (Fletchers only sell weaving arrows in Java, I think, but Hero of the Village gifts might work, I don't know) in my sky block world so that I can get cobwebs which is the only way to get them in this game mode.
I was briefly in an SMP and left because I couldn't stand how there was always that one sneaky player who would pilfer something from my builds. I now have a realm where only two of my siblings are playing, and I set the rules.
hi toycat, i think you make good points about the key issues with playing a multiplayer world (from about 10:20 in the video). i want to point out that many of the issues you mention/infer (agreements to meet regularly, rules and expectations both explicit and unspoken, and the general messiness of communication and finding common ground) also exist in other forms of social interaction (especially including in-person). obviously there are some challenges unique to multiplayer in minecraft and others to videogames more broadly, and additionally some games are much better suited for multiplayer, but i don't think "minecraft is [primarily] a single-player game" is a justified conclusion to make, considering that much of the criticism was inherent just to social interaction and not minecraft. that being said, it's all just opinion, and doesn't take away from some players finding greater enjoyment in playing a game in singleplayer!
Me and my mates play this way, we don’t care if someone joins but you better be building your house atleast 50 blocks from mine 😂 need space to build and do my own thing, afterwards we connect our houses via paths or railways, stops a lot of disagreements, Morel is everyone plays and builds differently, so it’s best if done alone.
My friends and I made amazing and extravagant things in our modded server. It was all survival and it was super fun. It wasn’t unreasonably modded either it felt mostly vanilla. We just had ambition and real plans. We literally built a castle, monuments, pyramids with full interiors, and nether farms
idk for me i started singleplayer and when i first started my first initial phase i was solo and id have agreed but i watched alot of youtube mc videos and found fitmc got on 2b2t and its been 2 years now i started 2b 6 months after starting mincraft and ever since then i havnt been able to focus on a single player world unless its building in bedrock creative to use amulet to make it into a schematic for java then i use baritone to build them on 2b but my point is i REALLY REALLY wish i could go back to when ii first started when single player was fun but once youve had over 50 or so ppl in a screenshot on top an obsidian mushroom its hard to go back to single player all my single player worlds feel lonely and ive had alot of difficulty regaining the focus or motivation maybe? to get back into one. any advice on how to regain that initial feeling of discovery?
Im pretty useless in Multiplayer haha, as i end up just messing with people. However a multiplayer experience that i absolutely love is just being in a voice call, whilst friends are on there own long term worlds, doing there own things Weve found events like the MCC thing to be the best multiplayer experience for us, as its limited and it doesn't drag on, till we all inevitably give up on the world
What if there was a code that spawned you in a world with other people but they’re 20,000 blocks away so it would be rare to ever actually see a real person. The map is so incredibly large, but there’s no reason to use 99% of it. You won’t even be able to see 99%of it if you tried.
Follow-up: I wouldn’t even mind that people will even be able to raid me. It’d give a reason to build with defense in mind. Obviously this would be a side life to the normal survival but nonetheless I’d probably enjoy it. Just knowing that someone else is out there somewhere would add a lot to help the boredom and loneliness I feel a lot while playing.
11:00 the monologe about how you slowly drop Games because you miss playing it with Friends is what happened to me with League. Lost all Motivation to play it once the Dudes were gone and havent been able to enjoy it outside of short "Checkups" in Bot match. Mostly to see new Champs then leave again.
i have a java server that was originally a multiplayer server that was the friends only then every left about after 3 months or so, then got the files from the friend that hosted it, so i ported it over to a single player which i realized when its a 4 gigs? its prolly best to run on a old laptop so i have a server and so it went back to server and now is open to everyone again but still alone but i have 35? hours on it and at day 17,000+. i still play on it and the last login for me was just a few hours ago
I haven't played minecraft to the fullest and mostly just watch others play it, so a lot of single playthroughs feels like dialogue between player and his/her audience, thus it looks like almost multiplayer playthrough. Kinda awkward feeling.
2:40 you literally just laid out the EXACT order of events my friend went through and I almost went through. I would LOVE TO PLAY with actual players who want to group up. I’m new. Please add. It’s difficult to play with the community. Thank you. I’ll add back. I’m tired of playing solo bedrock
I'm always in single player, except when with my family. And if there's a problem in the Minecraft world nothing like IRL fight to figure things out, or call the parents...
The interesting towers at 5:30 has "Commander Keen" alphabet characters that are flipped horizontally, the second down on the left should be two vertical dots instead of a vertical line.
I play with my niece on ps3 split screen. Lol she just goes around killing pigs because she likes eating pork chops😂 i really do enjoy playing with her. Shes 10 years old
Ok so it being all destroyed and griefed is LITERALLY HALF THE POINT OF AN ANARCHY SERVER. Thats what people who play on those servers ENJOY, i can list many servers that look so much better and more structured than that singleplayer world
@toycat is yes! Minecraft is a Multi-Sngleplayer game... :-D You should think about political compass 2.0 in Minecraft: Large Salmon Edition... I enjoyed the original...
Don’t let this console player tell you what Minecraft was like back in the day. Multiplayer was a huge part of the appeal and yes even lets plays were multiplayer, just look at Yogscast for example. People did play on their singleplayer worlds, I have fond memories of my own world, but I have MORE memories of playing with friends. Ask anyone who played Minecraft in Beta what Hamachi is and they’ll know.
@@kekchanbiggestfan Console editions came out 2012, less than a full year after Mc officially released. Even if that wasnt the case, somebody interested in minecraft can still learn alot about it without playing it themselves.
Day 103 of my new 1.21.01 world I had a 4 x 3 map wall of 1K maps, a diamond sword, diamond pick-axe, fully enchanted fishing rod, 64 iron, 32 gold, a watch, and an enchanting table. My village was mostly lit up. This world has 14 villages. Day 301 I had my Moving Disco Floor, which means a Jukebox, sticky pistons, glowstone and colored glass. That required finding a slime chunk. Day 1023 I had 6 blaze rods and most likely had all 14 villages at least partially lit up, with crops growing and most had fully enchanted fishing rods although half were cursed with vanishing. Day 1028 I had 12 ender eyes, which means I populated the end portal soon after, also implying that I had tunneled through the Nether to get all those resources, also expanding my map wall to 4 x 5, adding 3 more villages -- one being Zombie (which soon became non-zombie ). I didn't pillage much. Often I'd leave chests alone, and I'd give villagers more beds and work stations. I also made an Arts & Crafts retreat area and a campground. And flattened a good part of a dark forest to see what that red thing on the map was (ruined portal). The most infrastructure was canals, one being 400 blocks from one side of a mountain to the other. Also canals with climbing. I find no joy in killing mobs, and wonder if we could have a mode where mobs could play a game with you -- you'd hold up your ante, then play tic-tac-toe or I'm thinking of a number, or something more complicated and then you could win a drop or lose your ante.
who needs frenemies when you have family. There's a reason I don't have anyone meddling with my worlds. I would love to play with others and build something epic. But that's just it. I have my play style, you have yours, it's not compatible. Especially if you ad a 9 year old destroyer of worlds into the mix. My son has his own worlds where he can build all he wants, how he wants and destroy it all if he wants to. And I can have my huge monuments left untouched.
Make a copy of your world and invite your son in. I did that for my 6-year-old and instead of grieving my world he placed a few cute things here and there. I like his personal touches and never went back to the original.
@@sed6 He is allowed as long as he leaves my stuff alone. He's allowed to build whatever on his side of the fence and he has rooms in my base he can decorate. It's also a survival world so soucing the materials takes forever and he uses all that to just experiment and build stuff that messes up my base. I've had this world for over a year and my base is still unfinished. I even help him build on his side and he is a great builder, I just don't want gigantic flags all over my base, or random MC youtubers (he likes to build those too), or finding that a wall is missing or so on. We used to have a creative world where everyone could build whatever and however they wanted but that didn't last since he prefered to destroy rather than build back then.
I dont completely disagree, but i dont think this shows all points of views. Me and my friend have had a world since.... 2018? I think. Its been built up, just like a singleplayer world and sometimes we stop for a while but we still have fun for at least 2-3 months. We have 1500 days i think i dont remember it might be more
This entire video is taking the absolute extreme of any type of multiplayer server, and then comparing *only* those extremes to the standard single player experience. And the answer given as to why single player is better boils down to "cause I get to make the rules and do whatever I want". Have you considered I like hanging out with my friends and doing silly things, something I can't do in singleplayer. I play both singleplayer and multiplayer cause I like minecraft. One isn't superior to the other, play what you want and have fun. You liking the freedoms of singleplayer doesn't make minecraft a single player game. You having bad experiences with multiplayer doesn't make that a universal flaw with minecraft multiplayer. And there's so many things you can do about the "two week minecraft phase". Just takes actually organizing stuff. If you don't like doing that, there's servers out there that already do it. Places were you can make new friends and meet new people. You just gotta find the right one. Try new things out, experiment, do joint builds with your friends and then blow everything up with tnt- idk, it's a sandbox game do what you wanta (including singleplayer if that's your jam). Basically, this entire thing is pointless in both directions cause it just boils down to how *you like* to spend *your* time.
This is why I always leave minecraft open, if the servers ever go down, my minecraft instance is already open so I can still play. Also this is horrendously bad take. minecraft IS NOT better in single player, only people who say that are the ones who don't have friends. Single player is lonely asf, having a friend in your world is 10x more fun as there is wayy more you can do with someone else than you just alone. (And before you complain about servers just use the essiantials mod, it is really easy to install)
Bro I have been playing since minecraft pocket edition lite and never in my life have I played singleplayer and had fun, never will, singleplayer is the worst experience in Minecraft for me, I didn't watch the video but from the title I couldn't disagree less, everytime I try singleplayer I would get bored in less than 5 minutes and instantly try to get anyone on or just close minecraft. I only have fun because of friends and not the actual game
I enjoy single player. I have world template that t bought and I sometimes invited my friends and family to play in it. But it is ultimately a single player world
hmm I started playing on a Minecraft server about 12 years ago it was worth it, and it only shut down about 2 years ago for a reason, but Minecraft is best on servers as long as there is protection mods and a good team behind it. Toy cat, comparing public servers why MP sucks which most of us play on a whitelist private server back in the day and we knew not to play on public servers is quite funny. xD
you can play java edition fully offline without any internet. just not with the official launcher which is bad anyways (I like MultiMC), most alternative launchers require internet when you sign in with Microsoft to authenticate and download/update the game, then you can launch the game without any internet for as long as you want.
I think the fatal flaw of multiplayer Minecraft is, ironically, Realms. When it's just you and one other person you trust on a long-term world, only playing when you're both active, ideally when you both meet up IRL, that's peak multiplayer.
So, regular Minecraft Bedrock multiplayer, then.
@@miimiiandcoyeah but with paying microsoft to not need to stay afk for the friend
When we pause the game in single player it should pause the game but not in bedrock edition
Yeah 4J studios had that in Minecraft legacy:(
@@stevecookiemannnthe legacy console versions don't pause?
can't you just disable multiplayer thingy on world settings?
@@amanosatoshitranslates on Bedrock, no, but yes on legacy console edition
@@TheSlimeKilling_Minecart
wait, really? i can do same on phone (old ver tho) so i thought consoles can do same.
Even when my friends are in the "two week Minecraft phase", I often end up still dedicating more time to my long-term world.
Since it's all temporary, it can feel pointless doing anymore than the bare minimum - building a small base, gathering up to full iron, etc. to be sociable.
Yeah this was always how I felt joining a friends world and knowing they'd stop playing, why put time into it if you're gonna lose it for no reason in 2 weeks?
I will play with u :)
I'm looking for a multiplayer server for ps3
I feel that. I stopped playing with friends 2 years ago and started my own single survival
Feel like I have the best of both worlds. I have a 2000+ day realm with my brother and a friend and we all get in different times doing our own thing building solo but when we happen to be on at the same time we do exploratory type stuff like trial chambers or collecting smithing templates. Most building gets done when we are on by ourselves and then we have fun showing stuff off when we are all on. I think the important thing is just finding people who want to take it as seriously as you and respect your builds and don’t grief.
How do you share a common world?
@ we play on a realms server. It’s like $8 a month but you have an always online world for up to 10 people to play on so the host doesn’t have to be on for everyone else to get on
In the beginning you're forgetting about anti-grief measures for servers, like backups, and the Essential mod for Java, both of which make multiplayer way easier with little to no effort. I agree with a lot of other things here though
Exactly. I play on a public SMP that has anti griefing measures. Sure there have been griefers but they get stopped very quickly and it’s all back to normal after they get banned.
Cool
My son & I played on a LAN, just the two of us. He spent more time trying to kill me rather than gathering resources and building. He was 19; I thought he'd be more practical about setting up the base 😄 Other than that, I've always played alone.
Bro was struggling with that wither
I wanted to 1 hit ko it lol
Should have seen the stream. XD
My old realm has 3000+ days and it’s been abandoned just bc nobody plays on it anymore :(
I would play
(Another reason is that realms started charging me twice and it appeared as expired, during the outage lol)
@@Hyperforg I didn't realize the inflated the price
@@Hyperforg do what I do, take a computer with an intel celeron 450 cpu, install a random linux distro on it, and set up a fabric minecraft server onto it.
@@powerbanger69 i got a raspberry pi lol
Minecraft is a Single Player game.
Once…
My guy the button is still there you can click it more than once
@@Gabriel-lh7gyYeah but Minecraft Will never be a single Player games compared to the classic Mega Man games.
@@kolkagaming1234you are not making sense at all
Wow.
I've never heard such an uneducated understanding of a sandbox game
I only play single player right now. And my reasoning is.... when you get a group of people. There is always that one person. Who ruins it for everyone
Insert that one friend who speedruns the game in 20 minutes then proceeds to build a super overpowered villager trading farm within the next hour...
Yeah, there's always that one person who ruins it.
@@zephranarx2172 I was flrefencing the kind of person. Who thinks it's fun. To nuke the map for no real reason
i don't think useing an anarchy server for the comparison was a good idea tbh
honestly, seems like a case of comparing the absolute worst server type for new players to join to a standard single player server. Just really disingenuous to the actual argument being made here.
I agree. He acts like every public server is an anarchy server and that couldn’t be farther from the truth. I actually play a public SMP and it has no griefing and no stealing. People who do try to grief and steal get banned almost immediately.
Yeah, but these constructed, highly moderated servers are not Minecraft the game as intended by the original developers. They are something completely new. When the developers were imagining multiplayer Minecraft they were imaging groups of up to 12 (probably less) people playing on a world together hanging out. Not scripted game modes.
@@pseudonymos_ How does that any of that matter here tho? “How the developers intended” is an empty phrase. It’s a sandbox game, the definition of do whatever you want the game. Minecraft the game is whatever the people playing it make it. That’s how the sand box genre works.
@@BroKenYaKnow You got it on the nose, but you don't see my perspective! Minecraft is a game where people do whatever they want. When you put a large group of people together online and tell them to whatever they want it will inevitably lead to anarchy. The only way to stop this is for someone to implement rules.
I did picked up Minecraft during the pandemic to play with my siblings. Then I learned my bf also played with his sibling. A couple months later, we took all siblings to a Minecraft Exhibit😂
I play on a family server. It's amazing. Comparing a solo world to an anarchy server is comparing apples an kiwi
I think assuming multi-player has to be pvp is short sighted. And tbh toycat this kinda disappoints me in this channel a bit.
So I have a silly idea that’s been keeping me coming back consistently. I know I want to have kids someday so I’ve been working on a world with tons of builds I want to pass down to them eventually. So I usually hop on once a week at the minimum and do a build and it’s been coming along.
Also yeah it’s frustrating when people hop off and the world dies. I want something like a 2b2t equivalent on bedrock where it’s like a full map no restrictions with tons of people on it consistently. If anyone knows of anything like that on Minecraft bedrock on Xbox let me know.
@@kmart625 Yeah I really wish the console bedrock versions weren't locked to featured servers and realms.
im dying trying to see you killing the wither😵
You need to eat poisonous potato for the "eat everything" achievement.
and it's another way to get poison for the how did we get here advancement
This why I love my 360 console edition Minecraft. I never need internet to sit down and play with my sister or on my own. X,D
I agree with some points. The ‘circle of multiplayer’ is exactly right, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. My friends and I go through this cycle, getting to about 500 days before loosing interest, and starting a new world when we feel like some MC. Plus griefing isn’t a universal multiplayer issue, as far as I remember none of us have ever intentionally harmed someone else’s project
I played minecraft for only 4 year but I'm extremely bored of this game
I think its because I actually prefer to play games like terraria but I have no friends to play terraria :(
I have recently been playing minecraft on a world with a friend, and it gives me so much more inspiration. We've been playing for months! I think its not about if its multiplayer or not, its about having the right friends who won't give up after 2 weeks
Totally! Never ever give up on your worlds, though it's natural to take a break every now and then. Just don't make a new world, play in the same one.
toycat i farted as you uploaded this, i think its a sign
what in the hell that is literally the exact same thing right as i clicked on this video…
Same
😂😂😂😂
@@Grand-Theft-Autism brother is that you
@@Grand-Theft-Autism great username
Those weren't faces on that tower, that's something written in the "standard galactic" font.
Considering what it says, let's just pretend it's just faces.
(Nobody try to be helpful and translate it, it's bad.)
it's homophobia
@@userjames2009 ah, of course it would be.
I agree with the title, not with the execution. Showing only one server of each type is disingenuous. You can certainly have a server with friends for over 1000 days. Showing an open anarchy server as proof that it's impossible is misleading.
It's not often you get invited to an almost exactly 1000 day old world, it was a cheeky comparison but you'd never see a single player world look like the anarchy mess!
@@toycat That's probably the point you should have said then if that's what you meant. You think anarchy servers are bad (that's fine, I don't really like them either. Have whatever opinions you want if you're having fun). Not liking anarchy servers doesn't mean all multiplayer bad, and that's the point that came across from your presentation here. It's misleading and your response here seems a lot like you're doubling down on that or at the very least deflecting. You also wouldn't have "that anarchy mess" on an smp with rules. Not all multiplayer servers are made or run the same.
@@toycat I agree, but such as people can agree to have no rules, they can also agree to have rules. That's why the comparison is misleading- cause you can have 1000 day multiplayer world be just as good as a single player one.
You should have checked/showed more worlds of both types and then made you argument about multiplayer being less good
@@GeekNewz the reason for the comparison as it existed, were that these were the two worlds that were sent to me with 1000ish days played. I could've sought out a specifically decent multiplayer server, but that's a very odd request to make if I'm actually trying to show real worlds lol
Some of yall have some unloyal friends we all play together like all the time none of us quit on eachother
Toycat is the type of guy to go on a 15 minute rant just to tell us that he is wrong, and go into a new rant as to why he was wrong.
As a long time player who'd played multiplayer survival since beta, let me tell you, the two things I hate the most is when a map gets reset or when the server shuts down. This was such a common thing that it has put me off playing multiplayer for nearly a decade now.
I started playing during COVID and Minecraft became my number one game of all time. I play alone and I like it just like that, I have complete freedom to build wherever I want, keeping things neat and tidy. When I build I do in peaceful mode.
Dude yes u cant play a server that doesn't allow other players to break your builds
The problem I have with multiplayer is that I never found people who were as involved as I was, which meant everything ended quickly. Now I play multiplayer from time to time but without focusing on a specific world, just for fun.
Single player is just lonely, I play with my brother and since It is not a realm we both play at the same time and It never feels like a ghost town because we share a main base and both work on everything making you not have something like Bobs house without Bob online.
The night vision arrows save space in my inventory. I place them in my offhand. Potions take a whole slot that could be used for diamonds.
0:14 toycats finally outside good job TOUCHING GRASS
Vietnamese grass :)
@@toycat sure
@@toycatyarr in Vietnam?
I prefer playing multiplayer honestly. I have two public servers I main. One is a protected SMP and the other is an Anarchy server. Both let me build whatever I want one has rules and grief protection the other doesn’t. It’s more fun for me to play with other people and see their creations while making my own. I know you don’t like anarchy servers but they do have their beauty. It’s beauty in chaos and the beauty that nothing lasts forever it’s meant to show the various ways people are. In anarchy servers you think everyone is rude or mean but that’s just not the case. Sometimes anarchy servers bring the good out of people and you see established players helping the new ones, you see random people becoming friends and building huge bases together. It’s a type of server you need to actively play to truly understand. Too many often make judgements on those servers without even understanding them. And not every public SMP is like that. Many have build protection like my favorite Novylen. Novylen is an old server that allows people to build bases and sell things in shops without fear of griefing and stealing.
That is exactly why Minecraft is a multiplayer game
Agreed on the title
I've played milions more hours alone thay with anyone
You can't really have a multiplayer world
Cause people eventually leave it behind
On signleplayer you can go back whenever you want
Instead of destroying the glass, he could’ve just broke the logs and replaced them
The single player use for the tipped arrows is in Redstone contraptions, challenges, or because you hate brewing. Redstoners can find a niche use case for every obscure item and mechanic in the game. Challenges like your structureless super flat. You could cure a zombie villager that has the fletcher profession even though you don't have the flint to make a fletching table. This is the only way to get a lot of these potion effects. The last reason is for people like me who hate the brewing system with a passion and would prefer to spend so, so many hours collecting a fletcher selling each potion arrow just so you don't have to ever brew again. I keep a bunch of slow falling arrows on top of a tall tower in my world so I can glide slowly with the elytra and get a good Birds Eye view of my world without zooming past everything. Fire resistance arrows for the Nether, weakness arrows to cure villagers, healing arrows for bonus damage against undead, and harming to heal them back up if I have a use for them. Unlimited potion effects all without brewing a single potion. I'm currently trying to get a fletcher that sells the new tipped arrow of weaving (Fletchers only sell weaving arrows in Java, I think, but Hero of the Village gifts might work, I don't know) in my sky block world so that I can get cobwebs which is the only way to get them in this game mode.
I was briefly in an SMP and left because I couldn't stand how there was always that one sneaky player who would pilfer something from my builds. I now have a realm where only two of my siblings are playing, and I set the rules.
3:04 unironically enjoyed this bit
hi toycat, i think you make good points about the key issues with playing a multiplayer world (from about 10:20 in the video). i want to point out that many of the issues you mention/infer (agreements to meet regularly, rules and expectations both explicit and unspoken, and the general messiness of communication and finding common ground) also exist in other forms of social interaction (especially including in-person). obviously there are some challenges unique to multiplayer in minecraft and others to videogames more broadly, and additionally some games are much better suited for multiplayer, but i don't think "minecraft is [primarily] a single-player game" is a justified conclusion to make, considering that much of the criticism was inherent just to social interaction and not minecraft. that being said, it's all just opinion, and doesn't take away from some players finding greater enjoyment in playing a game in singleplayer!
I got a crazy wave of nostalgia seeing that footage of your old mini games
Minecraft is a single player game that some times you can play with friends but most of the times it end up a single player game.
toy cat never had the joy in tricking someone into eating a pufferfish by pretend eating it. :P
Me and my mates play this way, we don’t care if someone joins but you better be building your house atleast 50 blocks from mine 😂 need space to build and do my own thing, afterwards we connect our houses via paths or railways, stops a lot of disagreements, Morel is everyone plays and builds differently, so it’s best if done alone.
My friends and I made amazing and extravagant things in our modded server. It was all survival and it was super fun. It wasn’t unreasonably modded either it felt mostly vanilla. We just had ambition and real plans. We literally built a castle, monuments, pyramids with full interiors, and nether farms
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idk for me i started singleplayer and when i first started my first initial phase i was solo and id have agreed but i watched alot of youtube mc videos and found fitmc got on 2b2t and its been 2 years now i started 2b 6 months after starting mincraft and ever since then i havnt been able to focus on a single player world unless its building in bedrock creative to use amulet to make it into a schematic for java then i use baritone to build them on 2b but my point is i REALLY REALLY wish i could go back to when ii first started when single player was fun but once youve had over 50 or so ppl in a screenshot on top an obsidian mushroom its hard to go back to single player all my single player worlds feel lonely and ive had alot of difficulty regaining the focus or motivation maybe? to get back into one. any advice on how to regain that initial feeling of discovery?
How did you ever beat that wither? I can barely even see it
Im pretty useless in Multiplayer haha, as i end up just messing with people.
However a multiplayer experience that i absolutely love is just being in a voice call, whilst friends are on there own long term worlds, doing there own things
Weve found events like the MCC thing to be the best multiplayer experience for us, as its limited and it doesn't drag on, till we all inevitably give up on the world
Yeeee :)
Be nice if I had friends that would be interested in playing like that...
Minecraft: play together with friends! is a signle player game
What if there was a code that spawned you in a world with other people but they’re 20,000 blocks away so it would be rare to ever actually see a real person. The map is so incredibly large, but there’s no reason to use 99% of it. You won’t even be able to see 99%of it if you tried.
Follow-up: I wouldn’t even mind that people will even be able to raid me. It’d give a reason to build with defense in mind. Obviously this would be a side life to the normal survival but nonetheless I’d probably enjoy it. Just knowing that someone else is out there somewhere would add a lot to help the boredom and loneliness I feel a lot while playing.
this would be awesome
11:00 the monologe about how you slowly drop Games because you miss playing it with Friends is what happened to me with League. Lost all Motivation to play it once the Dudes were gone and havent been able to enjoy it outside of short "Checkups" in Bot match. Mostly to see new Champs then leave again.
i have a java server that was originally a multiplayer server that was the friends only then every left about after 3 months or so, then got the files from the friend that hosted it, so i ported it over to a single player which i realized when its a 4 gigs? its prolly best to run on a old laptop so i have a server and so it went back to server and now is open to everyone again but still alone but i have 35? hours on it and at day 17,000+. i still play on it and the last login for me was just a few hours ago
I haven't played minecraft to the fullest and mostly just watch others play it, so a lot of single playthroughs feels like dialogue between player and his/her audience, thus it looks like almost multiplayer playthrough. Kinda awkward feeling.
I liked the editing
Minecraft: play with friends 😢
Our Bedrock Realm RemiCraft™ is alive and kicking since over 3 years 🤷
The camel is another multiplayer only feature, u can just use a horse in multiplayer
Cudos to you for having the courage to stand outside in public in front of a camera, talking about Minecraft
I'm totally screenshotting that Minecraft with your friends cycle because that's how I feel constantly. 😅
2:40 you literally just laid out the EXACT order of events my friend went through and I almost went through. I would LOVE TO PLAY with actual players who want to group up. I’m new. Please add. It’s difficult to play with the community. Thank you. I’ll add back. I’m tired of playing solo bedrock
Gravel sky scraper could just be destroyed really quickly by a guy at the bottom with just a torch
I'm always in single player, except when with my family.
And if there's a problem in the Minecraft world nothing like IRL fight to figure things out, or call the parents...
I've been having severe rubberbanding and lag on my singleplayer world. Its ALWAYS opened to a multiplayer world. It is RIDICULOUS
Trial chambers get more difficult the more players are around them
The interesting towers at 5:30 has "Commander Keen" alphabet characters that are flipped horizontally, the second down on the left should be two vertical dots instead of a vertical line.
I always considered it a co-op game. Making multiplayer "fun" requires some effort, as the game itself is very much geared towards 1st person.
I play with my niece on ps3 split screen. Lol she just goes around killing pigs because she likes eating pork chops😂 i really do enjoy playing with her. Shes 10 years old
thats why you should get a phisical copy
like on swich
breach enchantment is mostly multiplayer too
damn, finally my love for skateboarding and toycat have finally merged paths. 0:40 that spot looks so sick
Ok so it being all destroyed and griefed is LITERALLY HALF THE POINT OF AN ANARCHY SERVER. Thats what people who play on those servers ENJOY, i can list many servers that look so much better and more structured than that singleplayer world
@toycat is yes! Minecraft is a Multi-Sngleplayer game... :-D
You should think about political compass 2.0 in Minecraft: Large Salmon Edition...
I enjoyed the original...
Don’t let this console player tell you what Minecraft was like back in the day. Multiplayer was a huge part of the appeal and yes even lets plays were multiplayer, just look at Yogscast for example. People did play on their singleplayer worlds, I have fond memories of my own world, but I have MORE memories of playing with friends. Ask anyone who played Minecraft in Beta what Hamachi is and they’ll know.
Ok good point. Him being console has nothing to do with it.
@@oLuunarr Console didn’t even exist back then, it absolutely has something to do with it
@@kekchanbiggestfan Console editions came out 2012, less than a full year after Mc officially released. Even if that wasnt the case, somebody interested in minecraft can still learn alot about it without playing it themselves.
Splitscreen PS3 Edition was peak.
i playbin an smp called The Old World. been running since 2012 in some form or another. very active and absulolutly charming
Day 103 of my new 1.21.01 world I had a 4 x 3 map wall of 1K maps, a diamond sword, diamond pick-axe, fully enchanted fishing rod, 64 iron, 32 gold, a watch, and an enchanting table. My village was mostly lit up. This world has 14 villages.
Day 301 I had my Moving Disco Floor, which means a Jukebox, sticky pistons, glowstone and colored glass. That required finding a slime chunk. Day 1023 I had 6 blaze rods and most likely had all 14 villages at least partially lit up, with crops growing and most had fully enchanted fishing rods although half were cursed with vanishing.
Day 1028 I had 12 ender eyes, which means I populated the end portal soon after, also implying that I had tunneled through the Nether to get all those resources, also expanding my map wall to 4 x 5, adding 3 more villages -- one being Zombie (which soon became non-zombie ).
I didn't pillage much. Often I'd leave chests alone, and I'd give villagers more beds and work stations. I also made an Arts & Crafts retreat area and a campground. And flattened a good part of a dark forest to see what that red thing on the map was (ruined portal).
The most infrastructure was canals, one being 400 blocks from one side of a mountain to the other. Also canals with climbing.
I find no joy in killing mobs, and wonder if we could have a mode where mobs could play a game with you -- you'd hold up your ante, then play tic-tac-toe or I'm thinking of a number, or something more complicated and then you could win a drop or lose your ante.
who needs frenemies when you have family. There's a reason I don't have anyone meddling with my worlds. I would love to play with others and build something epic. But that's just it. I have my play style, you have yours, it's not compatible. Especially if you ad a 9 year old destroyer of worlds into the mix. My son has his own worlds where he can build all he wants, how he wants and destroy it all if he wants to. And I can have my huge monuments left untouched.
Make a copy of your world and invite your son in. I did that for my 6-year-old and instead of grieving my world he placed a few cute things here and there. I like his personal touches and never went back to the original.
@@sed6 He is allowed as long as he leaves my stuff alone. He's allowed to build whatever on his side of the fence and he has rooms in my base he can decorate. It's also a survival world so soucing the materials takes forever and he uses all that to just experiment and build stuff that messes up my base. I've had this world for over a year and my base is still unfinished.
I even help him build on his side and he is a great builder, I just don't want gigantic flags all over my base, or random MC youtubers (he likes to build those too), or finding that a wall is missing or so on.
We used to have a creative world where everyone could build whatever and however they wanted but that didn't last since he prefered to destroy rather than build back then.
I dont completely disagree, but i dont think this shows all points of views. Me and my friend have had a world since.... 2018? I think. Its been built up, just like a singleplayer world and sometimes we stop for a while but we still have fun for at least 2-3 months. We have 1500 days i think i dont remember it might be more
Multipleyer Minecraft: Multiculturalism
Singleplayer Minecraft: White Ethnostate
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I name the poison potato orb of licking and hide it then write a book about it
Stampy's Lovely World wasn't a single player let's play.
I play mostly by myself besides when my son joins my world some times but does not do much lol
For you: Minecraft is A Single Player Game
Thanks UA-cam…
This entire video is taking the absolute extreme of any type of multiplayer server, and then comparing *only* those extremes to the standard single player experience. And the answer given as to why single player is better boils down to "cause I get to make the rules and do whatever I want".
Have you considered I like hanging out with my friends and doing silly things, something I can't do in singleplayer.
I play both singleplayer and multiplayer cause I like minecraft. One isn't superior to the other, play what you want and have fun. You liking the freedoms of singleplayer doesn't make minecraft a single player game. You having bad experiences with multiplayer doesn't make that a universal flaw with minecraft multiplayer. And there's so many things you can do about the "two week minecraft phase". Just takes actually organizing stuff. If you don't like doing that, there's servers out there that already do it. Places were you can make new friends and meet new people. You just gotta find the right one. Try new things out, experiment, do joint builds with your friends and then blow everything up with tnt- idk, it's a sandbox game do what you wanta (including singleplayer if that's your jam).
Basically, this entire thing is pointless in both directions cause it just boils down to how *you like* to spend *your* time.
17:12 the only time I laughed so hard on a phantom kill 💀
My third party Java server never went down this year. 😉
This is why I always leave minecraft open, if the servers ever go down, my minecraft instance is already open so I can still play.
Also this is horrendously bad take. minecraft IS NOT better in single player, only people who say that are the ones who don't have friends. Single player is lonely asf, having a friend in your world is 10x more fun as there is wayy more you can do with someone else than you just alone. (And before you complain about servers just use the essiantials mod, it is really easy to install)
Lol the fact he called 2B2T America!
It’s actually called amerika 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇺🇸🇺🇸🙋🙋🙋🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️
Bro I have been playing since minecraft pocket edition lite and never in my life have I played singleplayer and had fun, never will, singleplayer is the worst experience in Minecraft for me, I didn't watch the video but from the title I couldn't disagree less, everytime I try singleplayer I would get bored in less than 5 minutes and instantly try to get anyone on or just close minecraft.
I only have fun because of friends and not the actual game
I think you should have had a look at a mutiplayer realm with people who work for a common goal and not a bunch of children.
combat combat showing off in armour trims
thats the multiplayer features
I enjoy single player. I have world template that t bought and I sometimes invited my friends and family to play in it. But it is ultimately a single player world
17:30 random death lol
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hmm I started playing on a Minecraft server about 12 years ago it was worth it, and it only shut down about 2 years ago for a reason, but Minecraft is best on servers as long as there is protection mods and a good team behind it. Toy cat, comparing public servers why MP sucks which most of us play on a whitelist private server back in the day and we knew not to play on public servers is quite funny. xD
Man is live for 1 hr
AMINGUS.... amingus ... Ah min gus
wow you upload really fast 😮
Minecraft didn't go down for me that day since I play mobile and am mostly offline
Nine seconds no views cat dropped off
you can play java edition fully offline without any internet. just not with the official launcher which is bad anyways (I like MultiMC), most alternative launchers require internet when you sign in with Microsoft to authenticate and download/update the game, then you can launch the game without any internet for as long as you want.