Proud to have served seven years on and off with the men and women of the 63rd Military Airlift Wing at Norton AFB, CA!! (63rd Transp Sq, 63rd CES, HQ AAVS, and the USAF Clinic Norton)....Initial arrival May 1970...Took many a space A hop on the C-141s!!
I grew up not far from McGuire Air Force Base in South Jersey. I remember in the late 70s early 80s the 141's flying over my home in the pine barrens. It was a regular event. They would fly so low I swore they were going rub the tops of the trees... They wore the white over grey paint colors then.... A good friends dad was in the Air Force and his dad took us to an air show on base... where I was able to see one up close. I would eventually enlist in the Army Reserves (1993) going on base at both Ft. Dix and McGuire from time to time. I remember passing some of the 141's on the ground. The base was closed then and not much was there back then. But it would bring back the memories of them flying over my home... They were an impressive aircraft to see flying...
my 8th grade teachers husband flew the 141 out of Hanoi with the Pows she showed us a video of the Hanoi exit with the last flight of Pows it was quite impressive. he was stationed at mac afb.
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
I was stationed at Norton when that bird was brand new. After Norton I went to Yokota Air Base, Japan and I’ll bet I touched every C-141 there was in the two years I was there. Great airplane, glad they saved this one.
The C-141 was my first operational aircraft at Norton AFB Ca June/July 1980 I was there for field training with these aircraft, after that, I went to Clark AB Philippines and there they were, rows of C141s I was an environmental systems specialist and this plane which was very reliable and easy to work on. I only dreaded the bleed air pylon shutoff valve removal and replacement which was a bear, and the electrical cooling fans, amazing that when one goes out, the plane is grounded.
After leaving Norton, I got my commission as a CA ANG MSC officer flying with the 146th Aeromedical Evac Squadron, Van Nuys ANGB, CA (C-130-Es).....later to be named the Channel Islands ANGB.
Flew back from Nam in one of these C-141's December 21st 1967. The plane was full of Helicopter Blades being sent for Repair in the States. 12 of us GI's hitched a ride back to the World and sat in Jump Seats for 3 days. Pretty cold in the cargo area flying at 40,000 feet. Left Tan Son Nhut to Nagoya to Fairbanks to Texas to Georgia to Dover. Took us 3 days I believe. Arrived December 24 in Dover. One of the guys said someone stole this Money Orders and they called the MP's we waited several hours for the MP's to arrive. One of the guys said to check this guys bags first. They found the money orders where he had hid them. The MP's detained him awhile and let the rest of us go. Me and 2 other guys took a taxi to Newark, NJ Airport. We all flew to different airports. I went to Detroit arrived there the next day. We all just had are tropical Short Sleeve Uniforms. Cold as Hell then. But we just wanted to get home. This had been my second tour. Finally went back to Nam in 2017., 50 years later. This time to Play Golf and sight see.
A little sidenote... The Hanoi Taxi as seen here is a C141B... At the time of the evacuation of American POWs from Hanoi, she was in fact a C141A. She was later upgraded to the B configuration. The difference for those who dont know is the A models had considerably shorter fuselages and no refuelling probe (the hump over the cockpit).
@@bob80q Yes.. you are correct.. this one did in fact recieve the upgraded avionics, hence it is a C model. You however did not have to be such a twat about correcting me.
I have an Uncle who served in Vietnam, OK so the war was controversial here at home but that is irrelevant, these outstanding Americans remain just what they were back in 1973, heroes to Americans everywhere!
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
In the early 1980 s I went tdy 4 times out of Kadena on the 141 the best was when we went TDY to Williamtown RAAF base in Newcastle Australia we flew for just over 10 hours to get to Australia and it was awesome and the Australian people were awesome
I made my first night jump out of one of those C 141B Starlifters at Fort Benning Georgia the summer of 1985. I was in 44th company and my Roster number was 746.
My unit the 377th SPS provided security for that Aircraft and the POW’s when they landed at Tan San Nhut AB. I remember looking at those Hero’s and thinking how pale and gaunt they looked. God Bless them.
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
@@javiergilvidal1558 you wouldn't have the balls to say that to a vet in person because they would blow your foreign head off you piece of foreign shit, rot back in whatever shit hole country you come from
I took a C 141 A, crewed and owned by the Mississippi Air National Guard, to Desert Shield. A good military ride, but nothing like a Commercial Flight. Thanks guys, good ride.
@@bob80q My memory? He was the one who said it was an A Model. Should I go back in time and tell the Loadmaster he is stupid or lieing? I wrote it in my War Journal while in flight. That settles it for me. You go find him and tell him he is wrong. Oh, by the way, the loadmaster does not fly the AC. The loadmaster LOADS the AC so that it balances at the center of gravity.
@@rancidpitts8243 he either misspoke or was pretty clueless. I am quite familiar with the crew positions, I had 1100 flying hours on the C-141 as a Flight Medic
Well, Sir, you made me feel a little bit better: I served in MAC from 1966-70 & worked almost all that time with the C-141A, got a flight on one (as a passenger) ONCE. I love that bird!!
+Wayne Robinson I was a side-seater in the cargo compartment, but seat configurations varied (according to mission, load type, etc.). I remember the loud scream of those beautiful powerful engines: loud, but music to my ears! That bird was always over-powered, we could rarely (if ever) gross her out on ACL (allowable cabin load) weight.
Isn’t it the C-141B? I didn’t know they made a C model. If they did make a C model. What were the changes made to it? I’m not being a smart ass. I seriously don’t know and it is bugging me because my father flew C-141B’s out of Norton AFB. 63rd MAW 14th MAS.
There was In the 90’s after Desert Storm I think, but the renovations were quite small. It was at the end of its lifetime. They were wearing out. My dad flew the C-141 after returning from Nam until he retired in 1975. . He went from a Cessna as a FAC in Viet Nam to this plane. Quite an upgrade in size. His 6’4” body appreciated a little more room 😅.
@@patriciahilbish3982 LOL. 6’4”. Poor man. Wonder how many times he hit his head in and out of the plane and the cockpit. So there was a C model. Interesting. Wonder if it was a Mod for the wings. I know towards the end of their career. They were suffering structural fatigue in the wing boxes. I sure do miss seeing them and hearing them. The sound they made, one can never forget. The true workhorses of the U.S. Armed Forces. Still they received little recognition in aviation documentaries of their role in American aviation and American Military. Hats off to your father. Respect. 🇺🇸
Proud to have served seven years on and off with the men and women of the 63rd Military Airlift Wing at Norton AFB, CA!! (63rd Transp Sq, 63rd CES, HQ AAVS, and the USAF Clinic Norton)....Initial arrival May 1970...Took many a space A hop on the C-141s!!
I grew up not far from McGuire Air Force Base in South Jersey. I remember in the late 70s early 80s the 141's flying over my home in the pine barrens. It was a regular event. They would fly so low I swore they were going rub the tops of the trees... They wore the white over grey paint colors then.... A good friends dad was in the Air Force and his dad took us to an air show on base... where I was able to see one up close. I would eventually enlist in the Army Reserves (1993) going on base at both Ft. Dix and McGuire from time to time. I remember passing some of the 141's on the ground. The base was closed then and not much was there back then. But it would bring back the memories of them flying over my home... They were an impressive aircraft to see flying...
my 8th grade teachers husband flew the 141 out of Hanoi with the Pows she showed us a video of the Hanoi exit with the last flight of Pows it was quite impressive. he was stationed at mac afb.
Flying the 141 was the best years of my life. Great men and women!
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
@@javiergilvidal1558 You slimy bastard behind a keyboard wouldn't have the balls to say that in person to any one of us. What country are you from?
@@rvnmedic1968 he's a pussy that's why the foreign prick won't answer
I was stationed at Norton when that bird was brand new. After Norton I went to Yokota Air Base, Japan and I’ll bet I touched every C-141 there was in the two years I was there. Great airplane, glad they saved this one.
The C-141 was my first operational aircraft at Norton AFB Ca June/July 1980 I was there for field training with these aircraft, after that, I went to Clark AB Philippines and there they were, rows of C141s I was an environmental systems specialist and this plane which was very reliable and easy to work on. I only dreaded the bleed air pylon shutoff valve removal and replacement which was a bear, and the electrical cooling fans, amazing that when one goes out, the plane is grounded.
Thank you so very much for your service Mark and thank you for sharing about the aircraft!!!
I was a USAFR Flight Nurse, flew in the C-141B's from Charleston AFB for 8 years, and from Germany during Desert Storm. It was a great bird.
After leaving Norton, I got my commission as a CA ANG MSC officer flying with the 146th Aeromedical Evac Squadron, Van Nuys ANGB, CA (C-130-Es).....later to be named the Channel Islands ANGB.
As a flight crew member I actually got to crew on this historic Aircraft. It was an honor.
Flew back from Nam in one of these C-141's December 21st 1967. The plane was full of Helicopter Blades being sent for Repair in the States. 12 of us GI's hitched a ride back to the World and sat in Jump Seats for 3 days. Pretty cold in the cargo area flying at 40,000 feet. Left Tan Son Nhut to Nagoya to Fairbanks to Texas to Georgia to Dover. Took us 3 days I believe. Arrived December 24 in Dover. One of the guys said someone stole this Money Orders and they called the MP's we waited several hours for the MP's to arrive. One of the guys said to check this guys bags first. They found the money orders where he had hid them. The MP's detained him awhile and let the rest of us go. Me and 2 other guys took a taxi to Newark, NJ Airport. We all flew to different airports. I went to Detroit arrived there the next day. We all just had are tropical Short Sleeve Uniforms. Cold as Hell then. But we just wanted to get home. This had been my second tour. Finally went back to Nam in 2017., 50 years later. This time to Play Golf and sight see.
A little sidenote... The Hanoi Taxi as seen here is a C141B... At the time of the evacuation of American POWs from Hanoi, she was in fact a C141A. She was later upgraded to the B configuration. The difference for those who dont know is the A models had considerably shorter fuselages and no refuelling probe (the hump over the cockpit).
WRONG, it is a C model; upgraded in the mid 90s
@@bob80q Yes.. you are correct.. this one did in fact recieve the upgraded avionics, hence it is a C model. You however did not have to be such a twat about correcting me.
You don't have to be such a twat about being corrected. You were wrong. Deal with it.
I have an Uncle who served in Vietnam, OK so the war was controversial here at home but that is irrelevant, these outstanding Americans remain just what they were back in 1973, heroes to Americans everywhere!
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
Good to see one of the old 141s being put in a good home.
In the early 1980 s I went tdy 4 times out of Kadena on the 141 the best was when we went TDY to Williamtown RAAF base in Newcastle Australia we flew for just over 10 hours to get to Australia and it was awesome and the Australian people were awesome
Flew this aircraft from 1970 to 1987 as a fly Engr, best years of my life, McGuire AFB 732 MAS
the Hanoi Taxi was assigned to Norton and Wright-Patterson
I made my first night jump out of one of those C 141B Starlifters at Fort Benning Georgia the summer of 1985. I was in 44th company and my Roster number was 746.
My unit the 377th SPS provided security for that Aircraft and the POW’s when they landed at Tan San Nhut AB. I remember looking at those Hero’s and thinking how pale and gaunt they looked. God Bless them.
you are confused friend, they were flown to Clark AB
@@bob80q no you are confused! Flown into TSN, transferred onto a Meda Vac, and then to Clark AB.
I wish we could bring one back to life.
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
I am so glad they made it home. I know I'm 42 years late with this, but "Welcome Home."
Gotta laugh at the fucking yanks trying to disguise the utter SHAME of their miserable DEFEAT in Viet Nam (at whose valiant people yanks threw everything they had in their evil inventory, except nukes) with fancy names. So the plane they used to RUN AWAY like COWARDS and FLEE and GET THE HELL OUT of the Vietnamese quagmire was the "Hanoi Taxi"? Yeah, and I guess the sub-human My Lai massacre was "Hot countryside tourism", and the vicious wholesale napalming of the Vietnamese villages was "Aerial BBQ sorties", and the Agent Orange massive defoliation and poisoning of the Vietnamese jungle was "Colourful Gookcrop Spraying".... You bastards have gone well below the human condition in Viet Nam. You bastards mass murdered your way into the most dishonourable DEFEAT the world has ever known, at the hand of a glorious people with BALLS that tore up your fat greasy wide lardy yankee asses. May you all yankee cowards, cursed cancer of mankind, reap the harvest of DEATH and PAIN you deserve!
@@javiergilvidal1558 we weren't defeated you fucking muppet
@@javiergilvidal1558 you wouldn't have the balls to say that to a vet in person because they would blow your foreign head off you piece of foreign shit, rot back in whatever shit hole country you come from
@@aydenstockham1143 Proudly served..no matter what the consequences!
I flew back from Belgium in this plane for my dad's funeral in 2006.
I took a C 141 A, crewed and owned by the Mississippi Air National Guard, to Desert Shield. A good military ride, but nothing like a Commercial Flight. Thanks guys, good ride.
it was a B model, except for 4 test aircraft all A models were converted by 1982; theirs were converted to C model in the mid 90s
@@bob80q I asked the Loadmaster about the Model. The answer was an A Model. What else can I tell you.
@@rancidpitts8243 your memory is failing, how could a crewmember not even know what kind of fucking plane he was flying?????
@@bob80q My memory? He was the one who said it was an A Model. Should I go back in time and tell the Loadmaster he is stupid or lieing? I wrote it in my War Journal while in flight. That settles it for me. You go find him and tell him he is wrong. Oh, by the way, the loadmaster does not fly the AC. The loadmaster LOADS the AC so that it balances at the center of gravity.
@@rancidpitts8243 he either misspoke or was pretty clueless. I am quite familiar with the crew positions, I had 1100 flying hours on the C-141 as a Flight Medic
Does anyone know if the New Fourth Building is a closed hanger (so, if we were to go in winter we'd be saved of the snow and wind ect)?
Yes seatgurus it's an enclosed building.
I took a C-141 from Germany back to the states after a tdy to Zwibruken AFB.
With some innovative mods, the 141 could see a new lease on life as the KC-141.
Yes, it would take some creativity.
And some miracle to resurrect all the aircraft that have been chopped up for scrap. The only ones left are museum static displays.
wasn't needed and not cost effective
I unfortunately never got a chance to fly on a C-141 Starlifter.
Well, Sir, you made me feel a little bit better: I served in MAC from 1966-70 & worked almost all that time with the C-141A, got a flight on one (as a passenger) ONCE. I love that bird!!
+Wayne Robinson I was a side-seater in the cargo compartment, but seat configurations varied (according to mission, load type, etc.). I remember the loud scream of those beautiful powerful engines: loud, but music to my ears! That bird was always over-powered, we could rarely (if ever) gross her out on ACL (allowable cabin load) weight.
My name is Gary w. Roberts I was the crew chief of 60177 when it picked up all pow's !
Stationed at Norton AFB
@@garyroberts6937 San Bernardino, calif. Rageanomics closed quite a few Bases down
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Isn’t it the C-141B? I didn’t know they made a C model. If they did make a C model. What were the changes made to it? I’m not being a smart ass. I seriously don’t know and it is bugging me because my father flew C-141B’s out of Norton AFB. 63rd MAW 14th MAS.
There was In the 90’s after Desert Storm I think, but the renovations were quite small. It was at the end of its lifetime. They were wearing out. My dad flew the C-141 after returning from Nam until he retired in 1975. . He went from a Cessna as a FAC in Viet Nam to this plane. Quite an upgrade in size. His 6’4” body appreciated a little more room 😅.
@@patriciahilbish3982 LOL. 6’4”. Poor man. Wonder how many times he hit his head in and out of the plane and the cockpit.
So there was a C model. Interesting. Wonder if it was a Mod for the wings. I know towards the end of their career. They were suffering structural fatigue in the wing boxes.
I sure do miss seeing them and hearing them. The sound they made, one can never forget. The true workhorses of the U.S. Armed Forces. Still they received little recognition in aviation documentaries of their role in American aviation and American Military.
Hats off to your father. Respect. 🇺🇸
involved avionics upgrades including a glass cockpit and GPS
How much is a UFO cost at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
I really want to UFO they go so fast
And let me tell you The government of Nevada took away a lot of mountains what I want to climb😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😓