The “Downfall” of Trevor Zegras

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  • @krispykreme3176
    @krispykreme3176 19 днів тому +75

    Worst EA cover ever lol Didn’t make sense then, looks absurd now

    • @Waxyyy
      @Waxyyy 18 днів тому +2

      worst? idk, but not good

    • @krispykreme3176
      @krispykreme3176 18 днів тому +6

      @ I mean if you can come up with a worse one I’m all ears

    • @grapefruitsodags8387
      @grapefruitsodags8387 18 днів тому

      Maybe the cover athlete curse, which normally plagues the Madden cover athletes in the NFL is carrying over to chel now

    • @Waxyyy
      @Waxyyy 18 днів тому +1

      @ it kinda has carried over to the nhl games, they put Matthews on the cover TWICE and they still couldn’t make it past the first round

    • @krispykreme3176
      @krispykreme3176 18 днів тому +2

      @ I wasn’t a fan of Matthews being on it twice, definitely overkill and the 2k20 cover gave him this ai looking smile lol That being said he’s a genuine superstar in the biggest hockey market

  • @m4lewife
    @m4lewife 22 дні тому +33

    The biggest issue I personally see nowadays piggybacks off of the idea that he's being pushed into a role that doesn't fit. If you watch him play in the USA world juniors, Z's role as a center (which is the position he very strongly prefers,) looks completely different from the center that Z is pushed into on the Ducks under Cronin (when his "downfall" started.)
    Cronin's style of play is pretty old-timey. It's that gritty rough playoff hockey. Get pucks in deep, move pucks low to high, drive the net, get pucks on goal, look for screens and traffic. It's a tried and true way of scoring, but it's just about all he ever employs. You rarely see that kind of play develop as consistently with the Ducks under Eakins or during world juniors. Zegras is a skill player. He has hands, incredible vision, passing, and awareness. He absolutely flourishes creating chaos down low, cycling the puck, going behind the net, dishing pucks to wingers, etc. You just don't see that anymore in Anaheim. He (and many of the other Ducks players) would benefit on systems employed by teams like New Jersey or Toronto, looking to stretch the zone and be in constant motion. It's hard to produce when you're being severely limited options-wise.
    If you want to see how the Ducks excel, watch their recent game against Winnipeg. (12/18/2024) They play the fast puckmoving offense like New Jersey and Toronto in the first period, and you can tell it clicks. Just a shame Zegras wasn't there as well.

  • @AverageCanadianTy
    @AverageCanadianTy 22 дні тому +15

    I think you captured it. He’s not had the best linemates who compliment his style, coaching has rightly asked him to get better in his two way game, and he’s actually done that. This alone is a testament to his capability to adapt to what he’s asked to do. Beyond that, while he has been improving his defensive game, something that can change your focus and alter your game in the first place, he’s also had to adjust to linemate chemistry issues. Add all of that together and it’s a formula for the scoresheet that people read (rather than advanced stats) to tell an incomplete story.
    Moreover, there has been said to be locker room issues in the Ducks org for a bit, and this can have an affect on things for any player, and has seemingly affected our entire roster. Zegras isn’t the only one struggling on this team.
    When it comes down to it, Zegras has a lot working against him and is still managing to make a massive difference on offensive plays on the ice. The teams xGF go up when he’s on the ice.
    The sad thing is that he tends to be injured when we get our mojo going as a team. Were he to be available when we do get things going, I suspect we’ll see the numbers start to climb.
    I get the impression that he’s going to excel when he comes back so long as our momentum continues to grow. It would seem (to this fan) that the locker room problems have been figured out a bit.
    Coaching should definitely make more allowances for his creativity in their strategy, but we will see.
    Step by step.

  • @magikush
    @magikush 18 днів тому +17

    Why are duck fans so hard on this kid? Between injuries and playing on a garbage team he’s done pretty good to this point

    • @hfootball9634
      @hfootball9634 9 днів тому +1

      Exactly, people thought he alone would turn around the team when the ducks weren't doing good to begin with, and I'm a duck fan.

  • @nolan13075
    @nolan13075 21 день тому +63

    Ducks fans pretending like he's good defensively now is funny.

    • @peeph0le
      @peeph0le 19 днів тому +8

      Said by someone who doesn’t watch the ducks

    • @nolan13075
      @nolan13075 19 днів тому +9

      @@peeph0le why are his defensive metrics so bad, even though he doesn't usually get deployments against the top offensive competition?

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 17 днів тому +3

      @@nolan13075 because the Ducks as a team are the second worst defensive 5v5 team in the league. Cronin is the worst coach in the NHL and doesn’t give them free rein to create and encourage wingers to fly the zone to generate counterattacks, which ironically would improve the defensive metrics by virtue of less time spent in their end. Everyone is deployed horribly

    • @nolan13075
      @nolan13075 17 днів тому +3

      @matthewkabel6246 Zegras is one of the worst on the Ducks, while guys like Killorn have decent metrics. How do you explain that away?

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 17 днів тому

      @@nolan13075 Killorn is a complimentary veteran 3rd liner whose game is almost impervious to coaching because he’s not a threat on the rush or as a puck carrier. He can thrive on the cycle as a passenger and he’s always been decent enough defensively.
      Zegras and Carlsson are dynamic puck carriers who are demons in transition with the puck on their stick. Both are high-end playmakers and line drivers. McTavish, although not as puck-dominant as the aforementioned names, has also been a huge victim of coaching. He’s more of a play-connector and one who links/chains sequences together as opposed to an elite offensive catalyst, but at his best he’s still a guy who excels in transition and has the hands and patience to delay and deceive before executing a perfectly timed slip pass between sticks and bodies. And he can protect the puck almost a la Getzlaf, another skillset that goes to waste when the team doesn’t possess the puck as much as they should be with the personnel they have. Cronin is wrongfully trying to mold McTavish into this dominant netfront guy like Brady Tkachuk, when in reality McTavish is much more of a finesse player (albeit with physical tools) than Cronin would like to admit.
      The system Cronin employs significantly limits ways for rush offense to materialize due to the overemphasis of the man on man style that expends energy in the defensive zone and rarely leads to any sustained o zone pressure or transitional opportunities. The system is not catered to strengths/skillsets of the team’s core whatsoever. Once it is, you’ll see production skyrocket from everyone, including Zellweger and Mintyukov on the back end who have fared decently well all things considered.

  • @melo2511
    @melo2511 18 днів тому +3

    I’m a Ducks fan, and I like him. I think he’s a pretty solid player, and he got a lot of media hype early on. I think there is an enormous pressure mounted on him to be this larger than life player, but he is still developing himself in the NHL. I think that takes time, but I don’t think he’s miserable on the ducks I think he is just frustrated with how it’s going. Shoot, I’d be upset too if I kept getting injured and I had to constantly try to be a larger than life player. I just think he is a guy doing his best, and I really hope he does well and I’d love him to stay with the Ducks. My prayer for him is that God blesses him and his athletic talent, that he comes to know Jesus if he doesn’t, and that he becomes he player HE wants to be not what everyone wants him to be. No worries here!

  • @turnkey8740
    @turnkey8740 21 день тому +28

    cannot call him a superstar unless you’re talking about his tiktok

  • @duckmylife
    @duckmylife 22 дні тому +17

    When he got hurt, he was our best player. He does so much for this team that people who don't watch the ducks consistently won't understand. Good news he may be back quicker than expected, probably closer to 4 weeks since the injury! Hopefully, he can start to prove the haters wrong. W vid 🔥

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  22 дні тому +3

      One of my favourite players, I wish the best for him. Thank you for the kind words

  • @1pbdecoded1pb
    @1pbdecoded1pb 3 дні тому +1

    Marcus Pettersson, Drew O'Connor, Noel Acciari and Jack St Ivany to the Ducks for Trevor Zegras to the Pens.

  • @irafair3015
    @irafair3015 21 день тому +16

    Gulls not "Gills" 🙄

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  21 день тому +1

      @@irafair3015 yes yes I know I’m dumb 😭

    • @irafair3015
      @irafair3015 21 день тому +1

      @@CrossCreaseHockey I didn't say that. You're not dumb, just mistaken. No hate here.

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  21 день тому +1

      all good thank you for watching 🙏

  • @sergeymontross4680
    @sergeymontross4680 8 днів тому +1

    It’s like Jack Eichel when he got traded from Buffalo. He needs to get traded to a good contender to get his career back on track!

  • @rngfootball759
    @rngfootball759 18 днів тому +3

    Zegras played college hockey at my alma mater. I think he should had stayed in the college hockey game for another season tor two to develop his game. He wasn't a Celebrini or Eichel

  • @PROPHYZ
    @PROPHYZ 11 днів тому +1

    Zegras is a beast, he's gonna be fine.

  • @supertaj1800
    @supertaj1800 21 день тому +9

    the San Diego GULLS not Gills. Like Seagulls.

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  21 день тому

      @@supertaj1800 that’s my bad 😭

    • @supertaj1800
      @supertaj1800 21 день тому

      @@CrossCreaseHockey just had to say. All good though.

  • @nathanlarson310
    @nathanlarson310 20 днів тому +23

    If they started counting social media likes as an official stat, Zegras would be #1. Other than that he isn’t impressive. Been a Ducks fan all my life and he’s so overhyped by our fans.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 18 днів тому +4

      This is one of the dumbest and most ignorant comments I've seen

    • @WowOafus
      @WowOafus 14 днів тому +1

      He is impressive. Why do some sports fans have this mentality of athletes not being impressive unless they are the best in the league?

  • @HabsTypeBeat
    @HabsTypeBeat 21 день тому +4

    Wait what? Huston’s production is incredible. Nobody is criticizing his production.

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  21 день тому

      nobody should be, but I’ve seen so many people on twitter say shit about his game

    • @HabsTypeBeat
      @HabsTypeBeat 21 день тому

      @ They’re trolls.

  • @dr.loomis4221
    @dr.loomis4221 11 днів тому +1

    If he can round out his game and get traded to a contender, I could see him putting up 70-75 points in a full season. I'd also like to see John Gibson get traded out of Anaheim. He's a much better goalie than his numbers suggest.

  • @SlugManROTMG
    @SlugManROTMG 18 днів тому +3

    “i cant answer that question, i dont watch the ducks” sick video 😭

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  18 днів тому

      that’s why I asked duck fans because they have a better understanding of his play. I’m no hockey analyst and never claimed to be, that’s if u were being sarcastic

  • @bolt8412
    @bolt8412 18 днів тому +2

    The fans and players in Anaheim love Z. Every game is not as fun to watch when he’s not on the ice.

  • @SkyWalker7d1
    @SkyWalker7d1 15 днів тому +1

    I think the coaching and injury is the main issues, he has ppg potential imo but cronin is trying to mold him into a gritty 2 way third line type of center which was never his game. I understand wanting to make him strong defensively however not playing into a players strengths is textbook on how to ruin a young player, if he never gets his confidence back he could be one of the biggest downfalls ever. That being said if he was put in a better offensive system and wasn’t shackled down into a role he’s not good at I think he could be a 70-85 point guy
    Note: I am not a ducks fan and don’t watch a ton of them as I’m a Blackhawks fan, but I’ve always followed his game as I love the American boys. And it also takes a blind eye to see that all of the ducks young elite talent have been nothing but underwhelming, IMO the organization needs to look in the mirror and change how they’re handling things as they should at least be trying to make that offense fast and high flying over defensily structured, the boys need confidence before they can make true strides

  • @meowza
    @meowza 14 днів тому +2

    2:47 hell of an edit on the transition

  • @Habs__bigfan
    @Habs__bigfan 18 днів тому +3

    4:53 wait, u a habs fan????? Yoooo let's gooooo, I'm also a habs fan as well. Go habs go 🔴⚪️🔵

  • @WowOafus
    @WowOafus 14 днів тому

    A big issue is that people think this is like basketball, where one player carries the team. This sport is far more reliant on the team as a whole for the best players to be the best. This is why Bedard is in a slump.

  • @DirkBigglesworth
    @DirkBigglesworth 18 днів тому +2

    Nobody is washed by 23. Give him time.

  • @GeekRobotYT
    @GeekRobotYT 18 днів тому

    Wow really good video man went to check out your channel and couldn’t believe you only have 67 subs
    Keep up the great content man

  • @markusk1015
    @markusk1015 9 днів тому +1

    *Gulls not ‘Gills’

  • @hfootball9634
    @hfootball9634 9 днів тому

    He's a good player, its just people thought he alone would turn around the team when the ducks weren't doing good to begin with, and I'm a duck fan. Duck fans still believe in him. it's going to take time.

  • @Hggff3332
    @Hggff3332 20 днів тому +4

    Not a fan of the ducks but this guy is still young I doubt he is even close to his prime hopefully he’s traded to a place he can thrive, people need to chill out and let him grow

  • @imteal8284
    @imteal8284 7 днів тому

    its the org. as a ducks fan it hurts to say this but we dont deserve him. we traded all his linemates that helped him for dogshit veterans and then left him hanging out to dry. like dude how he gonna stand a chance. I hope he stays but i wouldnt blame him for requesting a trade

  • @Nikkah4evah
    @Nikkah4evah 16 днів тому +1

    Since you're a Habs fan I hope you guys keep this Zegras story in mind when you get Demidov next year. Because of rampant MDS (Michkov Derangement Syndrome), Montreal press and fanbase have overhyped Demidov to stupid unnecessary levels. Even the desperate GM flew over there for no real reason given the kid will be free in 3 or 4 months anyway. For Demidov's sake I hope he can handle it all.

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  16 днів тому +1

      I don’t think Kent Hughes going to Russia to watch demidov play is a bad move at all. Some gm’s wouldn’t take the time out of their day to watch a prospect play, especially if it’s on the other side of the world.
      Yeah the hype is probably overwhelming and it’s normal to be excited about good young talent, but it’s also good to keep expectations at a minimum. Then again that can be said about almost anything.

    • @Nikkah4evah
      @Nikkah4evah 16 днів тому

      @@CrossCreaseHockey "Some gm’s wouldn’t take the time out of their day to watch a prospect play, especially if it’s on the other side of the world"
      That's because GMs are usually doing more important things during this time of year (trade scouting, current player/ coach evaluations, etc.) than worrying about foreign prospects that they're going to get in (at most) 4 months time. Again, it reeks of desperation. And it looks like that desperation is gearing them up to throw him ASAP into the NHL. Last time I checked, that did not bode well for Zegras, nor (formerly) Drysdale (and perhaps Willy Gauthier?) on the Ducks. But again, we'll soon see. Hope I'm wrong.
      (Edit to move misplaced emoji)

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  16 днів тому

      I see ur perspective but Hughes still made a trade while he was in Russia

    • @Nikkah4evah
      @Nikkah4evah 16 днів тому

      @@CrossCreaseHockey Fair. But the Habs also could've kept tabs on him via watching video and phone calls. Demidov is not the first Russian to be drafted since the invasion of Ukraine yet Hughes is the first FO NHL person to visit. It's unnecessary and nothing but a PR stunt to show he's "doing something" involving "next superstar" Demidov because people are starting to question the "Michkov/Habs snub" again. And why are the questions coming back? Because the negative narratives that were created about that kid for the last year-and-a-half or so is not panning out in Philly.
      I don't know why so many in Montreal keep giving Hughes the benefit of the doubt when it comes to media reports and info. He used to be an agent and therefore knows how to spin the media in his favor.
      Sorry for the long response. I'm just baffled by it all.

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  16 днів тому

      @ I understand and respect ur opinion, even if I disagree

  • @Secretservice709
    @Secretservice709 8 днів тому

    Hutson is not the next Cale Maker he is the next Tyson Barrie

  • @Secretservice709
    @Secretservice709 8 днів тому +1

    He’s got the worst coach in the NHL

  • @SuperRangers21
    @SuperRangers21 7 днів тому

    1:54 San Diego GULLS, not Gills.

  • @Kadri9191
    @Kadri9191 2 дні тому

    “I’m only a habs fan” means that you can’t watch other NHL teams?! Absolute moronic statement

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  2 дні тому

      ummm I don’t watch duck games because they’re on very late at night for me, what u want me to do? 😭

    • @Kadri9191
      @Kadri9191 2 дні тому

      @ fair enough dude lol

  • @philips2327
    @philips2327 18 днів тому +1

    Nice video bro

  • @SteppyFN
    @SteppyFN 9 днів тому

    great vid😀😀😀😀

  • @Veopoz
    @Veopoz 18 днів тому +2

    Superstar?😅

  • @Gohabsgo12345
    @Gohabsgo12345 11 днів тому

    He has really good talent he still has time maybe get traded

  • @rgold9329
    @rgold9329 9 днів тому

    I want him to be traded. He just get injured to much maybe somewhere else he won’t get hurt anymore. Good player though just been cursed with injuries

  • @Michaelholt32
    @Michaelholt32 13 днів тому

    All that cared about was doing the Michigan he doesn’t care about winning

  • @taronreed4809
    @taronreed4809 17 днів тому

    Im a ducks fan I believe in the guy im not giving up on him I believe he goin to prove people wrong

  • @tsak912
    @tsak912 18 днів тому

    The only way to win n the NHL with a small skill forward on you top line is if you surround them with big bodes and 3+ future HOFers.

  • @walmartian422
    @walmartian422 18 днів тому

    He’s probably just being watched now and his teammates can’t bail him out when he’s getting targeted. Idk though because I never watch the guy.

  • @Rojjters
    @Rojjters 22 дні тому +1

    DML MENTION

  • @SportsFan838
    @SportsFan838 17 днів тому

    The cover athlete curse is real!😮

  • @akwz2448
    @akwz2448 14 днів тому

    Trade for Morgan Frost straight up

  • @reignofrock
    @reignofrock 19 днів тому +1

    He'll be buried and out of the league in no time.

  • @scottwilcox7807
    @scottwilcox7807 17 днів тому +1

    Gulls!!! It's the San Diego Gulls! Not Gills! Stupid AI
    It was Bob Murray, not Mary!
    If it's not AI, then whomever is doing the voiceover should learn english.

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  17 днів тому +1

      no im a real person 😭 and gulls one is accurate and an honest mistake

  • @somethingisclearlywrong
    @somethingisclearlywrong 15 днів тому

    Has he tried cutting his hair?

  • @aKingateAshark
    @aKingateAshark 8 днів тому

    Go
    Kings
    Go

  • @janzkee
    @janzkee 19 днів тому

    move him to carolina and he would flourish with necas and robinson.

  • @ziolino
    @ziolino 15 днів тому

    Lego rock 99 reference :)

    • @CrossCreaseHockey
      @CrossCreaseHockey  15 днів тому

      ummm I watch him but where in the video is there a reference? maybe there is and I just don’t get it 😭

  • @ZacharyDarkes
    @ZacharyDarkes 18 днів тому +3

    Trevor Zegras is not a superstar, so don't call him that😂

  • @RickyFrosch-d6l
    @RickyFrosch-d6l 16 днів тому

    might be NYR at end of yesr

  • @ancalagon18
    @ancalagon18 17 днів тому

    Prep school, college boy hotdog. What do you expect. ;-)

  • @christianvogt9699
    @christianvogt9699 17 днів тому

    As it turns out skilling it up doesn't transfer too well in the big boy league.

  • @andrecs9079
    @andrecs9079 17 днів тому

    Ruined ea nhl

  • @jomh832
    @jomh832 14 днів тому

    He is over rate

  • @zonkers.
    @zonkers. 21 день тому

    The best hockey UA-camr out there, and he’s only getting started.

  • @Shadow-zc9hd
    @Shadow-zc9hd 16 днів тому

    The kid is soft and he’s only good against players his age.

  • @wallace44able
    @wallace44able 18 днів тому

    Soft perimeter high skill trick shot player who doesn't battle hard or play defence.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 18 днів тому

      Zegras attacks the middle with regularity to create space for others and is an underrated forechecker, you definitely don't watch the guy

    • @wallace44able
      @wallace44able 17 днів тому

      @@matthewkabel6246 I've watched him. He plays on the perimeter and has no jam to his game. You aren't winning with this guy. The Ducks were real smart not going longterm on this trick shot softie.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 17 днів тому

      @@wallace44able based on that misinformed comment you most definitely don’t watch him lmao

  • @Mike.Hunt.
    @Mike.Hunt. 18 днів тому

    Stop calling him a superstar. He’s an overrated bum

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 18 днів тому

      You have zero clue what the term overrated means