Hello from Sydney. I don't live in Europe but I know how interconnected the world we live in is! Yanis Varoufakis, I admire you! Thank You for all the great work you do! Hoping one day you and all the other great people you help us to get to know will be leading all the people to make this world a great place it should be.
thank you Yanis for these wonderful + insightful DiEM25 TV videos!! When the 1st lockdown here in Germany started, I remember Merkel uttering a sentence - well embedded in many others concerning corona - that hit me instantly.... she said that even after corona, we will not return to the situation before the pandemic; that the world is just changing. She said that at least 2 times in the official evening news. My fist thought was: What is she planning??
I love this. I've never read the Decamerone, but when I hear it described, this is a modern version of that. People telling stories to each other, to pass the time, to reconnect to a new reality, to understand and feel the bigger picture. To give meaning to this pause, that we are now forced to take. My suggestion: I'd like to see Yanis welcome one of the old 'players' in the Eurogroup game, if an open conversation about that past, and conclusions for the future is now possible. Or some of the ministers from the other southern countries that felt that they could say one thing in public, and other things in the Eurogroup. and again other things in a private conversation. Only makes sense if they dare to not retreat into defensiveness. Is Draghi free enough, now?
Draghi is potentially interesting but i believe would play with a similar approach as giovannini. Elusive talking. Maybe just a little less, maybe just more conceived by a more appealing surface.
Today's guest was quite clinical and timid. Though I did not spot any major difference to Yianis view (no counter arguments), Mr Giovannini ended up in a far more relaxed action plan, I would not expect any different approach though, he is too close to Brussels. Any attempt to bring up some "human" details to surface (youth, music, films) failed, Mr Giovannini focused on his cv and special achievements. Nevertheless useful to the extent we are aware how current status quo is dealing with hot issues but close to boring. Yianis, keep up the good work!
It is a waste of time to try and 'meet halfway', or come to terms with the thoughts of someone whose only interest is to preserve the status quo; and I have to class this person - very minor as his role has been - with the Blairs, Clintons, and Renzis, etc. of this world. Their superior doublespeak in the defence of fundamentally neoliberal policies has invited in the "plain speaking" populists of the right throughout the world.
Κ. Βαρουφακη έναν άνθρωπο φέρατε με διαφορετική άποψη και καταφέρατε να ακούσουμε περισσότερο εσάς πάρα αυτόν. Ξέρουμε ότι συμφωνούμε μαζί σας δε χρειάζεται να πείσετε κάποιον
You need to re-fund the whole EU through multiple means. Fund households with the hardest money - Bitcoin/Satoshis. Flood corporations, banks, etc. with digital fiat, new bonds - every traditional funny money to which they are accustomed (most will go bankrupt anyway). Then let the markets decide which form of money wins. The current world currency (which is being "printed" out-of-thin-air like mad now) - the $ - will also be in the mix of course (along with every other form of Forex). Do the right thing for the people first and foremost, buy 'em Bitcoin/Satoshis while you still can... REALLY think outside the box now. Remember, Bitcoin is a world currency. Everything else is regional funny money. You have a chance to enrich society from the bottom-up! You need to get out ahead of this while you have the chance. Be first, not last. (The U.S. will likely be last, but they have the same choice as you, or any other region.) This is serious. Mark my words. (10,000 sats/person will do the trick, about 1/2 trillion Euros total perhaps - but you need to act fast. Btw. this is off-the-cuff calculating - only 1000 sats might well do it. Cheap insurance.) PS: Another serious subject - You must also think about changing - eventually outlawing - Cultural Meatheadism - to prevent the next Meathead Virus-caused economic and humanitarian disaster. (This would also substantially mitigate climate crisis) The next Meathead Virus could well eradicate our species... Make the price of "animal soups" equal to the true cost. You have MUCH to do! (But really, these are quite simple actions.)
Luckly you don't have to like the people you talk with. As somebody said in greece some time ago: the mark of an educated mind is to entertain itself in thoughts it doesn't share. Dialogue is what makes our understanding of this world grow, and there is even a chance to like each other better after... but that's just a bonus :)
I feel you. But you have to understand that this is the standard cultural behaviour of political intellectuals in italy. They are evasive. Actually you are assisting to the struggle of a person that lived on his skin and the skin of million of people a great distress on one side, and a statist on the other. You can see that even when giovannini shares the worries of varoufakis, he remains completely trustful that the mechanisms of europe are heading towards the right direction. He mentions resilience, yet he totally seem to not understand a keypoint of resilience: timing. Simply content ourselves with making some progress shouldnt be enough if our concern is resilience. We need to follow timings. And europe is clearly not following timings that help develop social, economic or environmental resilience. So yes. Welcome to the dimension of technicians. And thats quite simple. On one side you have a person that acts politically, on the other a person that trusts ( almost faithfully) technical processes. Its also funny because varoufakis lost his aplombe, and interrupted giannini several times. And lastly, i knew even before giovannini started to answer, that he would have never really gave an answer to varoufakis, this behaviour is completely embedded in italian political culture. The pursue of completely apolitical critique. Which results in a lack of real critique
@@MirkoskjiVero I do agree. I would be not so sure on the personal view of the guest thought. We should consider almost all political voices right now are not speaking transparently, this does not mean they don't bring good agendas. That's one of the main reasons we are here supporting this movement, to claim that we want political talk to embrace full transparency (thing sometime not totally understood even within diem supporters...), we are only going to obtain it by showing it and we are in many ways doing so. But along the way we should not fall in the trap of judging our referrals by the sympathy they show or suggest us.
@@PaoloCaminiti it is indeed true. But i cannot forget an history of rhetoric, evasive, unclear answers in italian political history. From craxi, to dalema, to andreotti. Political voices are not speaking transparently now. But they never did. And i appreciate giovannini efforts on the scientific standpoint and the tentative of mainstreaming them into the european dimension. I just, for example, would not be so trustful that all the measures to contain carbon emissions are going to be implemented after the crisis. And actually it is already happening the opposite, they risk to be delayed indefinetly. Then also giovannini recalls varoufakis multiple times about the fact that capital is not only economic, but also cultural and social, almost as if he was not able to understand that in 2020, we have a hierarchy of capitals, and without economic capital all the others are not going to be mobilised (or maybe yes, for free or low wages, out of charity, as usual). Moreover he seemed not able to recognize that we were already being hit by a long stagnation that already deeply wasted our social and cultural capital. Not aknowledging that this straining is going to affect every future action towards a green transition. Not to mention the fact that, in neoliberal capitalism every green transition is going to be nearly unachievable by impoverished communities. Because green is not cheap. Then of course. Im just extracting from the conversation based on my feeling, and also my understanding of cultural biases being italian. Its just that this seems to me the most realistic explanation to his behaviour.
@@PaoloCaminiti That is why I can confidently say that I do not like his attitude; and of course I am open to discussion and we can have a free dialogue. The reasons I have briefly outlined are mainly to do with his smugness and complacency about his influence on the European scene that he - or indeed even the Commissioner - do not have. Fake confidence and evasiveness are, alas, common practice in any political environment; but they invite in the fake clarity and directness of populists of the far right.
Hello from Sydney.
I don't live in Europe but I know how interconnected the world we live in is!
Yanis Varoufakis, I admire you! Thank You for all the great work you do!
Hoping one day you and all the other great people you help us to get to know will be leading all the people to make this world a great place it should be.
Yanis and Mark Blyth would be awesome
thank you Yanis for these wonderful + insightful DiEM25 TV videos!! When the 1st lockdown here in Germany started, I remember Merkel uttering a sentence - well embedded in many others concerning corona - that hit me instantly.... she said that even after corona, we will not return to the situation before the pandemic; that the world is just changing. She said that at least 2 times in the official evening news. My fist thought was: What is she planning??
I love this. I've never read the Decamerone, but when I hear it described, this is a modern version of that. People telling stories to each other, to pass the time, to reconnect to a new reality, to understand and feel the bigger picture. To give meaning to this pause, that we are now forced to take.
My suggestion: I'd like to see Yanis welcome one of the old 'players' in the Eurogroup game, if an open conversation about that past, and conclusions for the future is now possible. Or some of the ministers from the other southern countries that felt that they could say one thing in public, and other things in the Eurogroup. and again other things in a private conversation. Only makes sense if they dare to not retreat into defensiveness. Is Draghi free enough, now?
Draghi is potentially interesting but i believe would play with a similar approach as giovannini. Elusive talking. Maybe just a little less, maybe just more conceived by a more appealing surface.
Today's guest was quite clinical and timid. Though I did not spot any major difference to Yianis view (no counter arguments), Mr Giovannini ended up in a far more relaxed action plan, I would not expect any different approach though, he is too close to Brussels. Any attempt to bring up some "human" details to surface (youth, music, films) failed, Mr Giovannini focused on his cv and special achievements. Nevertheless useful to the extent we are aware how current status quo is dealing with hot issues but close to boring. Yianis, keep up the good work!
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Evasive understandable bc of his active role, but very intelligent without a doubt and his convictions are progressive
It is a waste of time to try and 'meet halfway', or come to terms with the thoughts of someone whose only interest is to preserve the status quo; and I have to class this person - very minor as his role has been - with the Blairs, Clintons, and Renzis, etc. of this world. Their superior doublespeak in the defence of fundamentally neoliberal policies has invited in the "plain speaking" populists of the right throughout the world.
Κ. Βαρουφακη έναν άνθρωπο φέρατε με διαφορετική άποψη και καταφέρατε να ακούσουμε περισσότερο εσάς πάρα αυτόν.
Ξέρουμε ότι συμφωνούμε μαζί σας δε χρειάζεται να πείσετε κάποιον
You need to re-fund the whole EU through multiple means. Fund households with the hardest money - Bitcoin/Satoshis. Flood corporations, banks, etc. with digital fiat, new bonds - every traditional funny money to which they are accustomed (most will go bankrupt anyway). Then let the markets decide which form of money wins. The current world currency (which is being "printed" out-of-thin-air like mad now) - the $ - will also be in the mix of course (along with every other form of Forex). Do the right thing for the people first and foremost, buy 'em Bitcoin/Satoshis while you still can... REALLY think outside the box now. Remember, Bitcoin is a world currency. Everything else is regional funny money. You have a chance to enrich society from the bottom-up! You need to get out ahead of this while you have the chance. Be first, not last. (The U.S. will likely be last, but they have the same choice as you, or any other region.) This is serious. Mark my words. (10,000 sats/person will do the trick, about 1/2 trillion Euros total perhaps - but you need to act fast. Btw. this is off-the-cuff calculating - only 1000 sats might well do it. Cheap insurance.)
PS: Another serious subject - You must also think about changing - eventually outlawing - Cultural Meatheadism - to prevent the next Meathead Virus-caused economic and humanitarian disaster. (This would also substantially mitigate climate crisis) The next Meathead Virus could well eradicate our species... Make the price of "animal soups" equal to the true cost. You have MUCH to do! (But really, these are quite simple actions.)
Varoufakis I admire you, but I do not like your guest. He is very evasive, superficial and disingenuous.
Luckly you don't have to like the people you talk with. As somebody said in greece some time ago: the mark of an educated mind is to entertain itself in thoughts it doesn't share. Dialogue is what makes our understanding of this world grow, and there is even a chance to like each other better after... but that's just a bonus :)
I feel you. But you have to understand that this is the standard cultural behaviour of political intellectuals in italy. They are evasive. Actually you are assisting to the struggle of a person that lived on his skin and the skin of million of people a great distress on one side, and a statist on the other. You can see that even when giovannini shares the worries of varoufakis, he remains completely trustful that the mechanisms of europe are heading towards the right direction. He mentions resilience, yet he totally seem to not understand a keypoint of resilience: timing. Simply content ourselves with making some progress shouldnt be enough if our concern is resilience. We need to follow timings. And europe is clearly not following timings that help develop social, economic or environmental resilience. So yes. Welcome to the dimension of technicians. And thats quite simple. On one side you have a person that acts politically, on the other a person that trusts ( almost faithfully) technical processes. Its also funny because varoufakis lost his aplombe, and interrupted giannini several times. And lastly, i knew even before giovannini started to answer, that he would have never really gave an answer to varoufakis, this behaviour is completely embedded in italian political culture. The pursue of completely apolitical critique. Which results in a lack of real critique
@@MirkoskjiVero I do agree. I would be not so sure on the personal view of the guest thought. We should consider almost all political voices right now are not speaking transparently, this does not mean they don't bring good agendas. That's one of the main reasons we are here supporting this movement, to claim that we want political talk to embrace full transparency (thing sometime not totally understood even within diem supporters...), we are only going to obtain it by showing it and we are in many ways doing so. But along the way we should not fall in the trap of judging our referrals by the sympathy they show or suggest us.
@@PaoloCaminiti it is indeed true. But i cannot forget an history of rhetoric, evasive, unclear answers in italian political history. From craxi, to dalema, to andreotti. Political voices are not speaking transparently now. But they never did. And i appreciate giovannini efforts on the scientific standpoint and the tentative of mainstreaming them into the european dimension. I just, for example, would not be so trustful that all the measures to contain carbon emissions are going to be implemented after the crisis. And actually it is already happening the opposite, they risk to be delayed indefinetly. Then also giovannini recalls varoufakis multiple times about the fact that capital is not only economic, but also cultural and social, almost as if he was not able to understand that in 2020, we have a hierarchy of capitals, and without economic capital all the others are not going to be mobilised (or maybe yes, for free or low wages, out of charity, as usual). Moreover he seemed not able to recognize that we were already being hit by a long stagnation that already deeply wasted our social and cultural capital. Not aknowledging that this straining is going to affect every future action towards a green transition. Not to mention the fact that, in neoliberal capitalism every green transition is going to be nearly unachievable by impoverished communities. Because green is not cheap. Then of course. Im just extracting from the conversation based on my feeling, and also my understanding of cultural biases being italian. Its just that this seems to me the most realistic explanation to his behaviour.
@@PaoloCaminiti That is why I can confidently say that I do not like his attitude; and of course I am open to discussion and we can have a free dialogue. The reasons I have briefly outlined are mainly to do with his smugness and complacency about his influence on the European scene that he - or indeed even the Commissioner - do not have. Fake confidence and evasiveness are, alas, common practice in any political environment; but they invite in the fake clarity and directness of populists of the far right.