THE FUCK! I'm left kinda speechless! We need more pastors like this! This makes me feel so much more okay, and like I'm not the only one with this kind of faith and struggling intertwined with each other. Fuck! I feel so much more loved from what she had to say, than from any other standard mainstream pastor I've heard in my life! This was SO MUCH MORE REAL AND HONEST!! Omg it was so.... Good!!
If Nadia had been around when I was growing up in the church that later ex-communicated me (Missouri Synod Lutheran), I might never have left the church. What a gift she is!
I live in Christchurch, New Zealand, where a little over four days ago at least 50 people were killed in an act of hate. I was angry, with him, I wanted to see the worst possible outcome for him, but I have begun to understand how a survivor who lost his wife and children can forgive this man. Nadia, you explain it so well. I left religion a long time ago, you may have won me back.
Looking at the story that reminds me that I end up harming the people that love me instead of those that I resent... I want to follow the Twelve Steps and your suggestions. Celebrating 26 years this Spring, Messy, and Dirty, and Holy. Thank you for being there on Easter Sunday when I heard your sermon and it was my sobriety anniversary, and I could forgive myself for my shortcomings and move forward to be of service! You rock.
Two more young Black men were murdered by white law enforcement and fear. Videos of their final moments are online. Their families and loved ones are mourning, Black folks all over are terrorized and traumatized all over again. Rage and heartbreak and soul tired numbness weighs me down. But the idea of leaning into and utilizing Grace to cut ties with the evil resonates with me. If that what forgiveness is, I may be able to want to pray for it. Thanks for posting this sermon. I’ll meditate on it.
Nadia Bolz-Weber. Thank you for saving my life, giving me hope and speaking truth. Almighty God is indeed merciful and gracious, abounding in steadfast love for everyone no matter what. God bless you Nadia.
yvonne taylor - this is what Jesus taught: Jhn 8:11 ...Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee (GRACE): go, and sin (break Gods law) no more (STOP IT). grace is not a license to keep on sinning as this fake 'pastor' teaches.
I am a lifer Lutheran..read the bible as an adolescent, understood it and confirmed by the church. As a mother of three ranging in age of 22 to 6 years old, a stage 4 breast cancer survivor, and having read the bible cover to cover over and over again...I have a absolute love for Nadia. Everyone will take from the bible what they personally need. Jesus wanted us to be like him, an he would NEVER judge anyone...only love them and hold them up. For anyone to have to walk through the short life we are blessed with.. holding despair, guilt and pain, because their neighbor, who is supposed to be loving them, is judging them with condemnation. God does not make mistakes... especially in creation of each of us...and he does not take back his promises....he will love us and forgive us unconditionally. Your relationship with God is yours...not someone elses. Ofcourse this is the opinion from a women who runs from people who have FEAR GOD bumper stickers.
The message that she is preaching here is actually pretty consistent with the radical grace message of Martin Luther 500 years ago. One difference is that Luther actually did believe that there was a hell awaiting those who rejected the offer of forgiveness and reconciliation accomplished by the saving work of Christ on our behalf. Also, I think that instead of "God loves you just the way you are," Luther would have said "God loves you in spite of the way you are. He loves you too much to leave you where you are, and that is why he wants you to grow in righteousness by increasing your love of Him and your neighbor, not that you will achieve the goal in this lifetime, but it is a goal toward which you should nevertheless strive." As a Lutheran myself, I think that I am a bit too traditional in my understanding of Lutheran theology to give her my total support.
Sarco, I like your retelling of Luther's position but Nadia would likely be burned at the stake by Martin. Glad we don't do that any more but if there is no Judgement and accountability, then from what are we saved ???
@Bill Asbury, I am pretty sure that is the point sarco64 was making (of which I agree with) that they disagree with Nadia when she says hell is imaginary. @Heidi K, I know you're probably a worthless internet troll who just needs to make comments like that to feel better about yourself but really...I can't believe you are so quick to judge Pastor Nadia because of her heresy, when you also praise tele-evangelists like Dr. John Ankerberg who only preach the suffering of the law and the prosperity gospel in order to further their worldly success and financial gain. Also, how dare you say her parishioners are "not saved"...who made you the judge of who goes to heaven and hell? You are as filthy and sinful and she is, because we all are.
Having read Luther, and about him (taken classes as well) comparing the two is almost inconceivable. Luther based his theology off of a rigorous biblical hermeneutic. He said his mind d could be changed only by showing in the scriptures how he is wrong. This woman, bless her, is going entirely by a theology of experience with absolutely no discernible understanding of the Bible. It's sad
Although traditional readings of hell in the Bible remain the worldwide Church's majority position, there is a growing minority who reject the existence of an eternal hell (although they affirm that hell still exists, albeit as a temporary measure -- see The Evangelical Universalist: The Biblical Hope that God's Love Will Save Us All). And I agree with your second point. God loves us because He is love itself (1 John 4). But I also wonder whether God loves us because we represent a part of His nature, having been made in His Image, which would make Nadia's point true also. I don't know about this, but it's a thought.
@classyt20f7 I do believe in hell 100%. I don't think this is eternal however, which is a view I got from the original texts and passages in the Bible which point to the Lord not casting anyone off forever (Lamentations 3:31) and all being made alive in Christ (Ephesians 3). Plus I really do not endorse the KJV. It has quite a few errors.
what a breath of fresh air. it's all about love and forgiveness I was a LCMS Lutheran for over 50 + yrs.. and while I loved my church, I always felt there was something missing. and switched to ELCA Lutheran it was a really hard decision and I prayed and prayed about it.. I fell in love with the ELCA church .. it's total acceptance of all, its message of love, its non judgmental attitude.. it's inclusion of women in the clergy and church service... that's what God is all about people, it still blows my mind some of the old thoughts that were just assumed to be correct. I have never felt closer to God It might not be for all people, but for me I've finally found my home. And as we say in the Lutheran church .. God's Peace be with you!
Just to let you know , we can't make up a God we like in our mind, we have to accept God as He is, God is not okay with a lot of things, for good reason , and these things have caused us pain and separation, but he made a way to overcome it , through his blood, you can accept him or deny him, it is up to you but you can't make up a God that is okay with things he is not.
oh my how wonderful to hear someone who speaks my language. I've not been able to find a church because everyone is always so ... I guess the word is ... Pious ... hey I wear jeans and t-shirts and love my tattoos and I can see 'the look' when I wear shorts ... It'd be great to be in a church like Nadia's where there is no judgment.
@Heidi K. The scriptures warn against name-calling and judgement of others. If you have an issue with a pastor the Bible directs you to contact the person directly, not publicly speak against them.
Brilliant , that touched my soul, I loved the references to the twelves steps as well, I just completed a set . Resentments hurt in so many ways , thank you.
Friday, August 23, 2018/ This is what I have been telling people all this time. Forgiveness is what frees us. I forgive others because I know who I am. I know my heart and I know I appreciate forgiveness, whether it be from God, you or to myself. It's not up to me to look at other's issues and judge them. "Love others as I have loved you", that's what I am supposed to do, nothing more, nothing less. This was the first video I have seen by Nadia, God blessed me today with this word.
"Gospel is Garbage" At last!!! An unbeliever who is honest!!! Refreshing!! I am a little tired of the liberal word salad these phony ministers use to cloak themselves to gain access and then lie to the sheep.
I loved this. first, real sincere delivery I have heard in a long time. No of this fake bull shit you hear from other organized Churchs and their feckless speeches
NBW speaks from a place of love, at least that is what I feel when I see and listen to her. Love is the most powerful light, and the hardest to hold on to. The “critics” who write against her are what has destroyed religion for so many people. Quoting bible, and scripture to rebuke has gone on long enough in the public arena. Let yourself see the good that Jesus preached shine through her. Thank God...truly....for this clear hearted reminder of the importance of religion and having a guide such as her to keep us strong.
What a wonderful and life giving message. When preaching the Gospel is stripped of religious trappings and traditions and false condemnations people are healed.
"For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good. Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God. 'Having a form of godliness', but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."
Such a bundle of cheer in the peanut gallery! To top that off that statement - Vincent Van Gogh had critics and yet much of the world recognizes him as a great and very unappreciated painter in his lifetime.
@@meking6327 the woman doesnt teach the bible, she teaches her opinion. if you want to follow her to doom then jump in the saddle and ride. but we who can actually think and who know what the bible says will follow Jesus.
So you think she's wrong it is equally as wrong to mock somebody and call them names I used to work with children and if a child is right they will often be calm and collected when they respond but if they have to resort to name-calling they've lost the argument
This is just why the CHURCH at the time wanted to arrest Martin Luther, take him to Rome, brand him as a heretic and burn him at the stake. Grace, fully understood, is not some easy, cheap forgiveness exercise, it is an invitation for me to let go of the personal edifice of "righteousness" my ego has created, and to get real about my many flaws, then to receive the grace of a God who has personally, on the cross, experienced all of the pain and anguish I am trying to hide from, and who then says to me, "You are flawed and broken AND I accept you and love you just the way you are", "now go out into the world and try to treat others with the understanding and love with which I have treated you". That is not heresy, that is truth, stripped of religious pretence, and it is revolutionary.
Only Jesus could go without sinning. No one can go and "sin no more". That notion belongs in the same category as thinking repenting means you never sin the same way again. We cannot stop sinning. But we can be repeatedly forgiven.
I love you and understand that you were in chains of sin, Jesus can break the chains, accept him as your Lord and become a child of God, repent from your sins , he loves you, fear the Lord and know his commands and keep them and come back to God so he may heal you and forgive your sin
"If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee." (Proverbs 25:21, 22; Romans 5:20 KJV).
No she has no idea what biblical grace means or from where it comes and what it's effects are. still, can't help if you're related to richie reneberg? saw him play in charlotte years back against Jim courier
Perry Gray-Reneberg = SORRY, NADIA DOES NOT KNOW THE FULLY MEANING OF GRACE !!! ==> GRACE IS THE FRIST STEP OF SALVATION !!!!! GRACE ALONE DOES NOT SAVE ONE FROM THE FLAMES OF HELL !!!!!! == Glorious Grace of God ONLY Gives Us the Freedom To Bring our Hearts and Thoughts Before God. ===== and Coming Before the True God Head with ALL our Filthy Thoughts and Heart's Desires, Won't be Saved From JUDGEMENT === UNLESS ===== We CONFESS ALOUD WITH OUR OWN MOUTHS, WHO GOD IS AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR US ==== Which is to Lay Down His Life, (Lion/Lamb) (Father/Christ) And GAVE UP HIS SPIRIT === So Filthy Sins, of Hearts and Thoughts Standing Before Him, Could Choose To Receive His Spirit/blood/water, TO BE CLEANSED BY HIS SPIRIT, CLEANSED OF THEIR FILTHY SINS, IN WHICH, ONE MUST LAY DOWN AND WALK AWAY FROM! === Like Nadia Laid Down Her Booze, and Took the Steps To Never take Another Drink, from the Abuse of Booze. So SHE is FREE, NO LONGER CAPTIVE of Her Wrong of Over Drinking Booze. ===== So Nadia Knows what Grace Really Means, === YET SHE DOESN'T FULLY PREACH IT, SHE THINKS SHE CAN TELL OTHERS TO SIMPLY STAND AROUND GOD'S GRACE AND NOT TAKE THE ACTION OF WASHING THEIR FILTHY SEXUAL ABUSE !!!!!! ONLY THE PRODIGAL SON(S) WHO TAKE THE STEPS To Realize the Filth they are in, with the Pigs in the mud, (miry clay of the Dust of this earth). And to Speak to God in Prayer; for ONLY a humble, broken down starving Heart, Needing the Truth, the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit He Gave Up, Will be Saved!!!!! So Like Christ laid down His Life, We are to do the same. ==== Nadia did in part the steps, of laying down Herabuse, and took the Steps to WALK away from that Abuse of Her life. . ==== SO ALL those who partake of the filth of sexual immorality and asks God for forgiveness of their filth. Lay it down, Leave it behind, like Nadia Laid Down her booze. WILL BE SAVED !!!!====== But sadly Instead Nadia does one thing, and preaches another. She Makes God's Grace the FULL power of Salvation === BUT THAT IS A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL === IF God's Grace was ALL that was Required to be Saved from Hell and it's Eternal Pit of Death (Below our feet, and the dust of land) === then just the Breath of Life would save us, For that is the Full Power of Grace, we have a temporary breath of Life ===== BUT NO the Breath of Life is ONLY a Gift of GRACE, A Loving God gave us a Form of Life, from the Formless, Void pit of Death (below our feet) !!!!!!! God's Grace of Life, Brought Life, so those with Life can be Tested and Tried !!!! BUT TO SAY, a Sinner, doesn't Need to give up their Sin, will ALL be Saved, is truly a dangerous message. For the Filth of Sin, is Why We Are Separated from God. ==== So those Who Seek God With ALL of their Hearts, Will be Found by God. WE must do As Nadia done with Booze, ALL must CUT the wrong from their Life, ((EVEN IF IT MEANS, CUTTING ONE'S ARM OFF, OR PLUCKING ONE'S EYE OUT)) Like the Animal in Captivity of a Trap, chews His Leg off to be Saved, THAT IS WHAT THE CHOICE HAS TO BE, TO BE SAVED FROM THE 2ND DEATH AND JUDGEMENT. ===== SO WHILE BASKING IN THIS GIFT OF LIFE AND LIGHT, ALL WHO SEEK GOD, BECOMES FOUND, WILL WASH THEIR FILTH, AND TAKE THE DIFFICULT STEPS TO LEAVE THE FILTH BEHIND, TO MAKE THEIR JOURNEY ON TO GLORIOUS FLOW OF HOLY SPIRIT, CHRIST GAVE UP AT THE CROSS !!!!!! AND SO THIS IS WHAT GRACE TRULY MEANS !!!!!
Real talk! "Bolz-cutters"! To some who may not get what this pastor says about God's Grace: Jesus said to His hearers, "Ye ARE the light of the world." Not, "if you follow the Four Spiritual Laws" or "if you pray the Sinner's Prayer": no. We ARE the light of the world, right here, right now. How do we shine?
I agree and appreciate so much of what she shares. I don’t agree with her comments that suggests that god is whoever you say or want god to be. If Jesus Christ wasn’t God the Son, and didn’t rise from the grave in bodily form, then the grace and forgiveness she peddles is also a farce. I believe Jesus is God the Son, and did rise from the dead, and in Him we have the grace and gift of forgiveness and eternal life. Hallelujah! And you can’t just insert Beyoncé in the place of Jesus and get the same benefit
the concept is to love God above all others, things, possessions, pride, Self interest . You seek/ attempt to honor Gods purity, righthousness, love and through his Son the Christ Jesus, forgiveness of sin . Read scripture, the Holy Bible both Old and New, study the Word with others.Ask for understanding of it in prayer . My question to Nadia would be 1. what do you believe sin of an individual to be ? 2. Can you explain in depth what constitutes sin .? 3. What of Christs Word of " Go and sin no more ." .4 Does she promote that with the same fervor as she does of being non judgemental .?
Well, I love her. She sounds more like a " New Thought " minister. More "Pantheist" or possibly "Panenthiest" either way, her delivery is the way , I believe, Christianity must evolve to survive. She would have much more acceptance as a Science of Mind minister but the Christian Lutherans are lucky to have her, even if some don't realize it.
Well, we can name our institution all or anything we want never the less, the real question is, am i truly in the Kingdom of God? 1 cor. 6: 9-10 ; Luke 16:16 ; Mathew 25: 34-46, Please Take your time to read this powerful verses, Thank U.
much of what she says about forgiveness rings true, but those who have been forgiven much learn to love much and it is out of that love for the God who has forgiven them (not fear, or duty, or a rat-pellet reward system) that they repent, try to stop sinning, and try, fail, and try again to conform their heart tot the heart of Christ.
Forgiveness kept me beaten abused and ripped apart I like a lot of what you say I used to be a church leader till I suffered from chronic pain which turned out to be fibromyalgia I've forgiven the people that hurt me but what hurt me even more was Christians attitude towards me never letting me be a whole person who was mending in moving why can't the church handle ill people handle damage handle restoration why they are so obsessed whether you have forgiven someone that's one of the first things that was said to me when I disclose what was going on at home have you forgiven them not are you ok I'm in a lot better place now and helped other people but I know this kind of teaching still goes on and it is so damaging thank you that you are cutting through some of the crap sorry if some of this doesn't make sense I use voice activated software due to chronic pain and I don't always pick up mistakes
Why do fundamentalists sound almost gleeful when they tell someone that they're going to wind up in hell? Be happy in your beliefs, but don't try to tell them what God thinks; you don't know. If you want to get apoplectic, watch some of Bishop John Shelby Spongs lectures or read his books. He is a Bible scholar not only of the New Testament, but has worked for several decades with Jewish scholars of the Torah (our Old Testament).
The 12 steps are in the Holy Bible. People ask me some times. What I do for a living . I tell them that I work for a church. Than I tell them I try to keep people from going to "Hell" as a joke LOL HAHA. Then before thy get a word out of me I tell the I'm a really a building supervisor for a church. I try to keep the congregation a happy and the building A/C running to there specification but I can only keep about 10 happy out of 500.00 O well I just give my job over to Jesus
She is a great entertainer but there is so much about what she does, what her image is, how people react to her, what her attitudes are, what people say to her, etc. I feel this is about her relationship with Christianity, which is interesting, it's just quite the gospel.
She's closer to christian than these fundy haters sending everyone to hell. They just want dominance and are pissed that they're shrinking and no one listens to their self righteous crap
She seems to be using the past mistakes of Pastors for her entertainment to entice the listeners. They couldn’t teach the message correctly because they didn’t understand Jesus ‘s word and definitely did not understand the human conditioning …like trauma mind for one example.
Mat 24:15 Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place This is it guys: PROPHESY FULFILLED
Speaking of Lutheran, I'm drinking coffee as I listen to Nadia talk. I have to say I believe she is completely correct in her thinking about walking with God. For 7 years I was part of the ONLY Southern Baptist Church in Canada at the time. That was nothing but damaging to me. They only made me hate myself and people who never did any wrong. Later in life I found several people that just hung out in a coffee shop and talked about God, not religion, but God. Their views where much the same as those of Nadia. I'm now rather fluid in how I see "God", it changes constantly and I am always seeing things in a new light. The simplest level of knowing God to me is "Love" - the Love to show you how to live and how to treat others. God is the source of all that exists and an example of what to strive for. The understanding that in this life we cannot come more than just close to what God is morally should not stop us from trying to live a better more loving existence.
"If you have been told God is some kind of punishing, capricious, angry bastard with a killer surveillance system, who is basically always been disappointed with you for being a human being, you have been lied to." Totally true!
everything is recorded. just watch some near death experiences you will find so many telling of this experience of watching a movie of their life and being judged for it... it's a warning we should take very seriously.
Matthew 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter(rock), and on this rock I will build MY CHURCH!!!, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. John 20.23 Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Why this is not respected if you taken exclusively from the Bible?
It took exactly this type of speech..from exactly this kind of person, to help turn my little bunghole of a heart...towards God. Im one of those people she is speaking of! I grew up (in the Catholic Church) Went to Catholic school... All the while, secretly thinking of the church as some egotistical puritanical, hypocritical system of punishment and reward. A "Meritocracy " created by a bunch of stuffy dingbats, used to control the mindless masses. Her words, and this speech- may not work for some ( that's ok! ) but it has helped me... immeasurably! Im back in baby's arms so to speak and I return to this video often. It still has the power to bring me to tears.. I had it SO wrong, for so long... and its people like Nadia , (and Richard Rohr!) that have helped 'save' what some (Jerks! ) called The 'unsavable' ... (Myself included) It takes all kinds to make a world.. and took just this kind of speech to help some of us find our way "home". Saint Francis said .. " Preach the Gospel always, and if necessary, use words…” I didnt need someone spouting scripture (that they didn't seem to even embody) from some ' ivory tower' of self righteousness. What I needed was a 'translator' that I could relate to.. and thank you Nadia, for being that person.
All that is fine, except we need to remember that new creatures in Christ have a new Master. He is Lord and Savior by grace. Grace that cannot change your life cannot save your soul. Jesus said to the adulterous woman...."Go and sin no more." Romans 5:21 says: Grace reigns in righteousness...sin reigns in death. You cannot serve God and mammon. Paul said to stop sinning. Jesus said, My sheep hear my voice and they follow me. Who are you following? There is no excuse for sin. If you are living in sin do not call yourself a christian for God's foundation is sure sealed with this inscription: The Lord knows those who are His and let everyone who confesses the Name of the Lord turn away from wickedness, for on that day many will call him Lord Lord, but He will say, "I don't know you depart from me you who work iniquity." He cannot be savior of your life unless He is Lord of your life. Read that in Romans 10:9 and 10. So don't be misled by sweet preaching. God is a God of wrath too. It's in the bible.
@@vaquero3578- people have made that claim against anyone they don't understand.
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Glenn Powell - for one thing, the bible says that the unmoving earth rests on pillars over Hell, and the sun orbits above earth right below the big dome of the firmament in the sky. In other words, the bible is merely mythological poetry, not history and not science.
@Heidi K. bottom line is we are supposed to be like Christ...or strive to be. Thats what Christian means. We are human so all we can do is try. We all fall short somehow sometime. So many so called Christians are so self righteous and judgemental that many people shy away from Him because of it. ..or they say they will wait until they are, in their own eyes, good enough to go to church which is very sad. YOU, ME, nor anyone else are any better than another. How can you say her message is wrong? It isnt wrong. Shame is evil. Guilt is evil. Anger is evil. Resentment is evil. This woman is not at all evil. Neither is tolerance, forgiveness acceptance and grace.
The apostle Paul asks in Romans 6, “Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can keep on showing us more and more kindness and forgiveness? Of course not! Should we keep on sinning when we don’t have to? For sin’s power over us was broken when we became Christians and were baptized to become a part of Jesus Christ; through his death the power of your sinful nature was shattered. Your old sin-loving nature was buried with him by baptism when he died; and when God the Father, with glorious power, brought him back to life again, you were given his wonderful new life to enjoy.” Please read this entire chapter, Nadia.
Yes, thank you. It's appalling that this woman is an ordained minister as she barely seems acquainted with the Bible or Christianity's most basic tenets. She's focused on her own deliberately self-aggrandizing interpretations, her vanity, her need to be center of attention. This is not Christianity; it's a bad TED Talk and a cult of personality.
Says a bunch of completely reasonable, compassionate, and theologically true statements about forgiveness. Trolls focus on the thirty seconds she mentions she doesn't believe hell is 100% real. Cool cool cool. Our world is broken and people suck. cool.
Joseph Vincent She rejects the existence of Hell, she can simply be dismissed as a manifest heretic. it goes against all Apostolic teaching, Jesus spoke explicitly about its existence. I’ve also had a very frightening supernatural experience so I have no doubt, I used to be an atheist. She is wrong Hell is real and so are demons it’s why you see so much evil manifest in the world, the Bible is clear Satan is the prince of this world.
If we put anything above Jesus we lose the plot. Even if we put good things like love, peace and happiness above Jesus. Jesus isn't cool. He isn't uncool. He is mighty to save. He renews our hearts and minds. He is holy, he wants us to be holy. When we have the Holy Spirit in us we want to talk about Jesus Jesus Jesus! Name above all names.. Even Beyoncé.
Actually most churches do talk about forgiveness if there sermon is about a sin it always ends in forgiveness you act like churches are always telling you your horrible there not it seems to me you do not finish a "real" sermon instead you turn to the next cool Ted talk. Forgiveness is the definition of the church. Yes the church has at times done horrible things but that isnt the true church it's when the church becomes like the pharisees and are righteous that's when it's bad but most churches arent that. Just becuase they speak a hard truth doesnt mean they dont end it in jesus. Just saying
Tradition (handed down instead of written, since the world's Romans and their predecessors and successors were, and always have been since then, out to exterminate any fleshly manifestation of God's glory on this earth, as they sought to do with Jesus and, with His mother after His ascension) tells us that St. Mary the Blessed Virgin sewed the first vestments for the bishops of the Church. Jesus wouldn't have been weirded out by vestments (or the guarantee of hearing inspired and inspiring Scripture by means of Liturgy -- and only hearing Scripture, instead of having to listen to un-Biblical, un-liturgical sermons extolling the world's CULTure that's so miserable to the seeker of God). Vestments and liturgy were a huge part of Temple Judaism so, they became part of Church Christianity, the fulfilled Judaism of the Jews who had accepted their Messiah Jesus of Nazareth. It's those who love this humanistic world who've become so utterly Diabolical who can't understand the serenity, the paltry yet sincere attempt at reflecting God's majesty, and the assurance of continuity of the faith throughout the ages that vestments and paraments (Church Liturgical decorations) can mean to believers (and for catechumens -- seekers -- who climb up out of the Devil's destructive lap and want to realize something higher than this rapidly disappearing world).
was Jesus the most gracious man who ever lived on the earth when he addressed the prostitute, "neither do i condemn you, go and sin no more"? I think so...so why does the pastor Nadia Botz-Weber is so eager to prove she is not condemning the "sinners", though she is constantly condemning Churches for their attitude toward "sinners", but never mentions go and sin no more, like Jesus did?
Her message has good valid points....but it is undermined when she speaks in a manner that is contrary to the working of the Holy Spirit's will! No place in scripture does it say or elude it being OK to use of vulgar language- and this is a sign of being led by the loving Holy Spirit of God. The exact opposite is true. Nadia's anger filled statements shows she is in need of deliverance/healing from anger and resentment. She is using the "right words" but her delivery shows she is not really living from a place of freedom from anger, resentment and bitterness from her past. This shows up in her frequent use of foul language. I know....for I was in the same place....until God delivered me from my anger and resentment issues from my past. Now I am truely free, and better able to hear and following the leading of the Holy Spirit in my life. "Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." Ephesians 4:29 (NLT) "Avoid worthless, foolish talk that only leads to more godless behavior." 2 Timothy 2:16 (NLT)
Really? Jesus was labeled as a drunkard, a glutton and a man who ate with the ultimate sinners of his time, tax collectors and then there were the women of unsavory character he ate with. So, get out your reading glasses, clean out your mental prejudices, judgmental self righteousness and actually READ your "life manual" . People like you are why I no longer go to church. A woman like Nadia Bolz-Weber may actually be a reason to return. To quote Ghandi, I like Christianity and would be one if it wasnt for the Christians I have met!
Wait. You object because she said "shit" a few times? A completely made-up word that is one step more vulgar than "poop?" Grow up. Find something more important to worry about.
This sermon is saving my life at the moment.
I pray you remain well, and full of the knowledge and faith that God is FOR you.
THE FUCK! I'm left kinda speechless! We need more pastors like this! This makes me feel so much more okay, and like I'm not the only one with this kind of faith and struggling intertwined with each other. Fuck! I feel so much more loved from what she had to say, than from any other standard mainstream pastor I've heard in my life! This was SO MUCH MORE REAL AND HONEST!! Omg it was so.... Good!!
If Nadia had been around when I was growing up in the church that later ex-communicated me (Missouri Synod Lutheran), I might never have left the church. What a gift she is!
Its never too late to come back to Jesus ♡
I live in Christchurch, New Zealand, where a little over four days ago at least 50 people were killed in an act of hate. I was angry, with him, I wanted to see the worst possible outcome for him, but I have begun to understand how a survivor who lost his wife and children can forgive this man. Nadia, you explain it so well. I left religion a long time ago, you may have won me back.
Looking at the story that reminds me that I end up harming the people that love me instead of those that I resent... I want to follow the Twelve Steps and your suggestions. Celebrating 26 years this Spring, Messy, and Dirty, and Holy. Thank you for being there on Easter Sunday when I heard your sermon and it was my sobriety anniversary, and I could forgive myself for my shortcomings and move forward to be of service! You rock.
This is the best sermon I have ever heard. Period.
Two more young Black men were murdered by white law enforcement and fear. Videos of their final moments are online. Their families and loved ones are mourning, Black folks all over are terrorized and traumatized all over again. Rage and heartbreak and soul tired numbness weighs me down. But the idea of leaning into and utilizing Grace to cut ties with the evil resonates with me. If that what forgiveness is, I may be able to want to pray for it. Thanks for posting this sermon. I’ll meditate on it.
it is a terrible thing. we take comfort in Nadia's words, too. what's possibly with prayer, honesty & forgiveness?
Nadia Bolz-Weber. Thank you for saving my life, giving me hope and speaking truth. Almighty God is indeed merciful and gracious, abounding in steadfast love for everyone no matter what. God bless you Nadia.
yvonne taylor - this is what Jesus taught:
Jhn 8:11 ...Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee (GRACE): go, and sin (break Gods law) no more (STOP IT).
grace is not a license to keep on sinning as this fake 'pastor' teaches.
I am a lifer Lutheran..read the bible as an adolescent, understood it and confirmed by the church. As a mother of three ranging in age of 22 to 6 years old, a stage 4 breast cancer survivor, and having read the bible cover to cover over and over again...I have a absolute love for Nadia. Everyone will take from the bible what they personally need. Jesus wanted us to be like him, an he would NEVER judge anyone...only love them and hold them up. For anyone to have to walk through the short life we are blessed with.. holding despair, guilt and pain, because their neighbor, who is supposed to be loving them, is judging them with condemnation. God does not make mistakes... especially in creation of each of us...and he does not take back his promises....he will love us and forgive us unconditionally. Your relationship with God is yours...not someone elses. Ofcourse this is the opinion from a women who runs from people who have FEAR GOD bumper stickers.
She didn't save you, god did that, now turn away from this heretic and read your bible!
Did she save your life? Or Jesus?
This was amazing. If she preached near my home, I would go back to church.
The message that she is preaching here is actually pretty consistent with the radical grace message of Martin Luther 500 years ago. One difference is that Luther actually did believe that there was a hell awaiting those who rejected the offer of forgiveness and reconciliation accomplished by the saving work of Christ on our behalf. Also, I think that instead of "God loves you just the way you are," Luther would have said "God loves you in spite of the way you are. He loves you too much to leave you where you are, and that is why he wants you to grow in righteousness by increasing your love of Him and your neighbor, not that you will achieve the goal in this lifetime, but it is a goal toward which you should nevertheless strive." As a Lutheran myself, I think that I am a bit too traditional in my understanding of Lutheran theology to give her my total support.
Sarco, I like your retelling of Luther's position but Nadia would likely be burned at the stake by Martin. Glad we don't do that any more but if there is no Judgement and accountability, then from what are we saved ???
@Bill Asbury, I am pretty sure that is the point sarco64 was making (of which I agree with) that they disagree with Nadia when she says hell is imaginary.
@Heidi K, I know you're probably a worthless internet troll who just needs to make comments like that to feel better about yourself but really...I can't believe you are so quick to judge Pastor Nadia because of her heresy, when you also praise tele-evangelists like Dr. John Ankerberg who only preach the suffering of the law and the prosperity gospel in order to further their worldly success and financial gain. Also, how dare you say her parishioners are "not saved"...who made you the judge of who goes to heaven and hell? You are as filthy and sinful and she is, because we all are.
Having read Luther, and about him (taken classes as well) comparing the two is almost inconceivable. Luther based his theology off of a rigorous biblical hermeneutic. He said his mind d could be changed only by showing in the scriptures how he is wrong.
This woman, bless her, is going entirely by a theology of experience with absolutely no discernible understanding of the Bible.
It's sad
Although traditional readings of hell in the Bible remain the worldwide Church's majority position, there is a growing minority who reject the existence of an eternal hell (although they affirm that hell still exists, albeit as a temporary measure -- see The Evangelical Universalist: The Biblical Hope that God's Love Will Save Us All).
And I agree with your second point. God loves us because He is love itself (1 John 4). But I also wonder whether God loves us because we represent a part of His nature, having been made in His Image, which would make Nadia's point true also. I don't know about this, but it's a thought.
@classyt20f7 I do believe in hell 100%. I don't think this is eternal however, which is a view I got from the original texts and passages in the Bible which point to the Lord not casting anyone off forever (Lamentations 3:31) and all being made alive in Christ (Ephesians 3). Plus I really do not endorse the KJV. It has quite a few errors.
what a breath of fresh air. it's all about love and forgiveness I was a LCMS Lutheran for over 50 + yrs.. and while I loved my church, I always felt there was something missing. and switched to ELCA Lutheran it was a really hard decision and I prayed and prayed about it.. I fell in love with the ELCA church .. it's total acceptance of all, its message of love, its non judgmental attitude.. it's inclusion of women in the clergy and church service... that's what God is all about people, it still blows my mind some of the old thoughts that were just assumed to be correct. I have never felt closer to God It might not be for all people, but for me I've finally found my home. And as we say in the Lutheran church .. God's Peace be with you!
Just to let you know , we can't make up a God we like in our mind, we have to accept God as He is, God is not okay with a lot of things, for good reason , and these things have caused us pain and separation, but he made a way to overcome it , through his blood, you can accept him or deny him, it is up to you but you can't make up a God that is okay with things he is not.
I love this!Thank you!! I teared up a little here! LOL!!And laughed too!
love how you put the message in real language. You are such a beautiful person & an outstanding minister.
oh my how wonderful to hear someone who speaks my language. I've not been able to find a church because everyone is always so ... I guess the word is ... Pious ... hey I wear jeans and t-shirts and love my tattoos and I can see 'the look' when I wear shorts ... It'd be great to be in a church like Nadia's where there is no judgment.
hippygranma it's Good to worship at the ELCA!
Ditto💜
hippygranma QA
hippygranma - stop trying to bring God's standards down to your level. the idea is to bring us up to His standards.
@@rickcoleman8277 - so you like satan worship eh?
What an amazing, inspirational woman. Thank you Nadia
@Heidi K. The scriptures warn against name-calling and judgement of others. If you have an issue with a pastor the Bible directs you to contact the person directly, not publicly speak against them.
Thank you Nadia! Thank you for helping me get back to God and what GOD is really about! Thank you!
Same here!
Brilliant , that touched my soul, I loved the references to the twelves steps as well, I just completed a set . Resentments hurt in so many ways , thank you.
@Heidi K. There are scriptures forbidding calling people names. Maybe you should look for them.
love that she always ends with Amen
and so it shall be
Friday, August 23, 2018/ This is what I have been telling people all this time. Forgiveness is what frees us. I forgive others because I know who I am. I know my heart and I know I appreciate forgiveness, whether it be from God, you or to myself.
It's not up to me to look at other's issues and judge them. "Love others as I have loved you", that's what I am supposed to do, nothing more, nothing less.
This was the first video I have seen by Nadia, God blessed me today with this word.
She does break boxes! (people's misconceived ideas of God)🤣
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With this country's horrible chemical opioid addiction problem - this lady is a light in the dark.
No, this woman is horribly confused and cannot see her hand in front of her face.
the real Gospel is light:ua-cam.com/video/EOkIJqjdUEY/v-deo.html
@@dmmusicmusic how can you say that?
Exactly what is so wrong with what she said?
"Gospel is Garbage"
At last!!! An unbeliever who is honest!!! Refreshing!! I am a little tired of the liberal word salad these phony ministers use to cloak themselves to gain access and then lie to the sheep.
@William Oarlock your opinion is garbage
Just love the speech great thanks for being diferente.🇵🇷♥️
Thank Jesus for Nadia! speak truth into the darkness of this world.
cathy - she speaks the lies of the forked tongued devil.
I loved this. first, real sincere delivery I have heard in a long time. No of this fake bull shit you hear from other organized Churchs and their feckless speeches
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You are a badass amongst people. Thank you.
k welliver- yeah shes bad alright...bad at scripture interpretation, bad at teaching truth. she has not clue. and neither do you.
@@vaquero3578 Her interpretation is not for every Christian, then again, neither is your trolling everyone who is receptive to her preaching.
@@vaquero3578 yeah she just said imaginary hell!!! She's gonna imagine it alright when she actually sees it if she doesn't truly call on the Lord
I love this woman so much - thank you Nadia 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
NBW speaks from a place of love, at least that is what I feel when I see and listen to her. Love is the most powerful light, and the hardest to hold on to. The “critics” who write against her are what has destroyed religion for so many people. Quoting bible, and scripture to rebuke has gone on long enough in the public arena. Let yourself see the good that Jesus preached shine through her. Thank God...truly....for this clear hearted reminder of the importance of religion and having a guide such as her to keep us strong.
mjsaville agree!
What a wonderful and life giving message. When preaching the Gospel is stripped of religious trappings and traditions and false condemnations people are healed.
The powerful message we should spread!!
Where sins abound grace and mercy abounds more! Great speech
Love this! Truth! So on point! 🙏♥️🙏
Holy cow! That was freakin' awesome!
"For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good. Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God. 'Having a form of godliness', but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."
Total brilliance. Thank you.
I love her. . .
The world needs more of this.
If you have critics, you must be doing well.
Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin had critics
Such a bundle of cheer in the peanut gallery!
To top that off that statement - Vincent Van Gogh had critics and yet much of the world recognizes him as a great and very unappreciated painter in his lifetime.
@@meking6327 the woman doesnt teach the bible, she teaches her opinion. if you want to follow her to doom then jump in the saddle and ride. but we who can actually think and who know what the bible says will follow Jesus.
So you think she's wrong it is equally as wrong to mock somebody and call them names I used to work with children and if a child is right they will often be calm and collected when they respond but if they have to resort to name-calling they've lost the argument
@ME King --Yeah, and Jesus is One of them.
Thank you.
I am a new fan of her and her speaking. How powerful and clear!
I love Nadia :)
This is just why the CHURCH at the time wanted to arrest Martin Luther, take him to Rome, brand him as a heretic and burn him at the stake. Grace, fully understood, is not some easy, cheap forgiveness exercise, it is an invitation for me to let go of the personal edifice of "righteousness" my ego has created, and to get real about my many flaws, then to receive the grace of a God who has personally, on the cross, experienced all of the pain and anguish I am trying to hide from, and who then says to me, "You are flawed and broken AND I accept you and love you just the way you are", "now go out into the world and try to treat others with the understanding and love with which I have treated you". That is not heresy, that is truth, stripped of religious pretence, and it is revolutionary.
Gerry Owen, that was beautifully said 💛
What Chris says, is go and SIN no more. A changing of ones ways is called for, not an improved aptitude for feeling better about one's sins.
Only Jesus could go without sinning. No one can go and "sin no more". That notion belongs in the same category as thinking repenting means you never sin the same way again. We cannot stop sinning. But we can be repeatedly forgiven.
I love you and understand that you were in chains of sin, Jesus can break the chains, accept him as your Lord and become a child of God, repent from your sins , he loves you, fear the Lord and know his commands and keep them and come back to God so he may heal you and forgive your sin
Jesus came not to forgive you in your sin , but to save you from your sin
She is more about herself than about God. I truly pray for her.
ECLA needs repentance and God's help.
I'm not sure how you come to that belief, but I pray that God fills you with His wisdom and grace.
Without God's grace we are nothing. I don't agree with everything she says but the message of grace and forgiveness is there.
Don’t fly away from me, you’re my butterfly
I love her!
She is very interesting to listene to🤔
Do you love her or her false gospel? Or both?
Wow!
This cracked me wide open
Try reading Marxianity by Brannon Howse for a full explanation of this sort of thing. It goes a lot deeper than you’d think.
"If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee." (Proverbs 25:21, 22; Romans 5:20 KJV).
Yep. She's cool. She's different (good thing)but listening, the message of forgiveness, grace through faith is there and knowing Jesus is paramount.
Love
hallo gibts auch predigten in deutsch?
Is that the ghost of Steve Irwin at 5:28? Love the content.
She knows what "grace" really means. Get thee to an ELCA church, folks!
No she has no idea what biblical grace means or from where it comes and what it's effects are. still, can't help if you're related to richie reneberg? saw him play in charlotte years back against Jim courier
I wouldn't recommend anyone to go to and ELCA church. A Lutheran church yes, but not an ELCA church.
jimflys2 elca is lit as hell and she speaks at their gatherings lmao.
Perry Gray-Reneberg = SORRY, NADIA DOES NOT KNOW THE FULLY MEANING OF GRACE !!! ==> GRACE IS THE FRIST STEP OF SALVATION !!!!! GRACE ALONE DOES NOT SAVE ONE FROM THE FLAMES OF HELL !!!!!! == Glorious Grace of God ONLY Gives Us the Freedom To Bring our Hearts and Thoughts Before God. ===== and Coming Before the True God Head with ALL our Filthy Thoughts and Heart's Desires, Won't be Saved From JUDGEMENT === UNLESS ===== We CONFESS ALOUD WITH OUR OWN MOUTHS, WHO GOD IS AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR US ==== Which is to Lay Down His Life, (Lion/Lamb) (Father/Christ) And GAVE UP HIS SPIRIT === So Filthy Sins, of Hearts and Thoughts Standing Before Him, Could Choose To Receive His Spirit/blood/water, TO BE CLEANSED BY HIS SPIRIT, CLEANSED OF THEIR FILTHY SINS, IN WHICH, ONE MUST LAY DOWN AND WALK AWAY FROM! === Like Nadia Laid Down Her Booze, and Took the Steps To Never take Another Drink, from the Abuse of Booze. So SHE is FREE, NO LONGER CAPTIVE of Her Wrong of Over Drinking Booze. ===== So Nadia Knows what Grace Really Means, === YET SHE DOESN'T FULLY PREACH IT, SHE THINKS SHE CAN TELL OTHERS TO SIMPLY STAND AROUND GOD'S GRACE AND NOT TAKE THE ACTION OF WASHING THEIR FILTHY SEXUAL ABUSE !!!!!! ONLY THE PRODIGAL SON(S) WHO TAKE THE STEPS To Realize the Filth they are in, with the Pigs in the mud, (miry clay of the Dust of this earth). And to Speak to God in Prayer; for ONLY a humble, broken down starving Heart, Needing the Truth, the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit He Gave Up, Will be Saved!!!!! So Like Christ laid down His Life, We are to do the same. ==== Nadia did in part the steps, of laying down Herabuse, and took the Steps to WALK away from that Abuse of Her life. . ==== SO ALL those who partake of the filth of sexual immorality and asks God for forgiveness of their filth. Lay it down, Leave it behind, like Nadia Laid Down her booze. WILL BE SAVED !!!!====== But sadly Instead Nadia does one thing, and preaches another. She Makes God's Grace the FULL power of Salvation === BUT THAT IS A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL === IF God's Grace was ALL that was Required to be Saved from Hell and it's Eternal Pit of Death (Below our feet, and the dust of land) === then just the Breath of Life would save us, For that is the Full Power of Grace, we have a temporary breath of Life ===== BUT NO the Breath of Life is ONLY a Gift of GRACE, A Loving God gave us a Form of Life, from the Formless, Void pit of Death (below our feet) !!!!!!! God's Grace of Life, Brought Life, so those with Life can be Tested and Tried !!!! BUT TO SAY, a Sinner, doesn't Need to give up their Sin, will ALL be Saved, is truly a dangerous message. For the Filth of Sin, is Why We Are Separated from God. ==== So those Who Seek God With ALL of their Hearts, Will be Found by God. WE must do As Nadia done with Booze, ALL must CUT the wrong from their Life, ((EVEN IF IT MEANS, CUTTING ONE'S ARM OFF, OR PLUCKING ONE'S EYE OUT)) Like the Animal in Captivity of a Trap, chews His Leg off to be Saved, THAT IS WHAT THE CHOICE HAS TO BE, TO BE SAVED FROM THE 2ND DEATH AND JUDGEMENT. ===== SO WHILE BASKING IN THIS GIFT OF LIFE AND LIGHT, ALL WHO SEEK GOD, BECOMES FOUND, WILL WASH THEIR FILTH, AND TAKE THE DIFFICULT STEPS TO LEAVE THE FILTH BEHIND, TO MAKE THEIR JOURNEY ON TO GLORIOUS FLOW OF HOLY SPIRIT, CHRIST GAVE UP AT THE CROSS !!!!!! AND SO THIS IS WHAT GRACE TRULY MEANS !!!!!
perry gray martin - no but she nows what DISgrace really means because that what she teaches.
"Nothing personal, but I am super unimpressed by your sin."
I love this bitch XD I need like 99.9999% more of her in my life.
Real talk! "Bolz-cutters"!
To some who may not get what this pastor says about God's Grace: Jesus said to His hearers, "Ye ARE the light of the world." Not, "if you follow the Four Spiritual Laws" or "if you pray the Sinner's Prayer": no. We ARE the light of the world, right here, right now.
How do we shine?
I’m myself a Lutheran and I support here being a spokesperson
I agree and appreciate so much of what she shares. I don’t agree with her comments that suggests that god is whoever you say or want god to be.
If Jesus Christ wasn’t God the Son, and didn’t rise from the grave in bodily form, then the grace and forgiveness she peddles is also a farce.
I believe Jesus is God the Son, and did rise from the dead, and in Him we have the grace and gift of forgiveness and eternal life. Hallelujah! And you can’t just insert Beyoncé in the place of Jesus and get the same benefit
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the concept is to love God above all others, things, possessions, pride, Self interest . You seek/ attempt to honor Gods purity, righthousness, love and through his Son the Christ Jesus, forgiveness of sin . Read scripture, the Holy Bible both Old and New, study the Word with others.Ask for understanding of it in prayer . My question to Nadia would be
1. what do you believe sin of an individual to be ?
2. Can you explain in depth what constitutes sin .?
3. What of Christs Word of " Go and sin no more ."
.4 Does she promote that with the same fervor as she does of being non judgemental .?
Well, I love her. She sounds more like a " New Thought " minister. More "Pantheist" or possibly "Panenthiest" either way, her delivery is the way , I believe, Christianity must evolve to survive. She would have much more acceptance as a Science of Mind minister but the Christian Lutherans are lucky to have her, even if some don't realize it.
Christianity doesn't evolve. It conquers with grace.
Jesus was not an Hegelian.
Well, we can name our institution all or anything we want never the less, the real question is, am i truly in the Kingdom of God? 1 cor. 6: 9-10 ; Luke 16:16 ; Mathew 25: 34-46, Please Take your time to read this powerful verses, Thank U.
Log jam in the 👁comment section, keep loving Jesus Nadia😍😎😂😁😀😃😄😆
Log jam is hypocrisy, no hypocrisy here just telling the truth, read stuff in context, show yourself approved
It's all "Look at me look at me look at me!"
much of what she says about forgiveness rings true, but those who have been forgiven much learn to love much and it is out of that love for the God who has forgiven them (not fear, or duty, or a rat-pellet reward system) that they repent, try to stop sinning, and try, fail, and try again to conform their heart tot the heart of Christ.
That's the word of God I identify with. Love it!
Yet another awesome person who makes me briefly wish anything about Christianity is real.
Truly disturbing to think she is a pastor
Forgiveness kept me beaten abused and ripped apart I like a lot of what you say I used to be a church leader till I suffered from chronic pain which turned out to be fibromyalgia I've forgiven the people that hurt me but what hurt me even more was Christians attitude towards me never letting me be a whole person who was mending in moving why can't the church handle ill people handle damage handle restoration why they are so obsessed whether you have forgiven someone that's one of the first things that was said to me when I disclose what was going on at home have you forgiven them not are you ok I'm in a lot better place now and helped other people but I know this kind of teaching still goes on and it is so damaging thank you that you are cutting through some of the crap sorry if some of this doesn't make sense I use voice activated software due to chronic pain and I don't always pick up mistakes
Joseph Vincent Forgiveness isn't suppression. You feel angry and then release it like a fart
Why do fundamentalists sound almost gleeful when they tell someone that they're going to wind up in hell? Be happy in your beliefs, but don't try to tell them what God thinks; you don't know. If you want to get apoplectic, watch some of Bishop John Shelby Spongs lectures or read his books. He is a Bible scholar not only of the New Testament, but has worked for several decades with Jewish scholars of the Torah (our Old Testament).
It's not a secret, the Bible reveals who God says is going to hell 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
The 12 steps are in the Holy Bible. People ask me some times. What I do for a living . I tell them that I work for a church. Than I tell them I try to keep people from going to "Hell" as a joke LOL HAHA. Then before thy get a word out of me I tell the I'm a really a building supervisor for a church. I try to keep the congregation a happy and the building A/C running to there specification but I can only keep about 10 happy out of 500.00 O well I just give my job over to Jesus
She is a great entertainer but there is so much about what she does, what her image is, how people react to her, what her attitudes are, what people say to her, etc. I feel this is about her relationship with Christianity, which is interesting, it's just quite the gospel.
she's a complete contradiction of the Gospel.
Did you mean it’s just NOT quite the gospel?
William Martin do go on
She's closer to christian than these fundy haters sending everyone to hell. They just want dominance and are pissed that they're shrinking and no one listens to their self righteous crap
She seems to be using the past mistakes of Pastors for her entertainment to entice the listeners. They couldn’t teach the message correctly because they didn’t understand Jesus ‘s word and definitely did not understand the human conditioning …like trauma mind for one example.
Mat 24:15
Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place
This is it guys:
PROPHESY FULFILLED
Wonderful! Words that are a gift from God.
The world needs more Pastors
like you ~
She has a great sense of humour and really gets God, spirituality and humans!
Speaking of Lutheran, I'm drinking coffee as I listen to Nadia talk. I have to say I believe she is completely correct in her thinking about walking with God. For 7 years I was part of the ONLY Southern Baptist Church in Canada at the time. That was nothing but damaging to me. They only made me hate myself and people who never did any wrong. Later in life I found several people that just hung out in a coffee shop and talked about God, not religion, but God. Their views where much the same as those of Nadia. I'm now rather fluid in how I see "God", it changes constantly and I am always seeing things in a new light. The simplest level of knowing God to me is "Love" - the Love to show you how to live and how to treat others. God is the source of all that exists and an example of what to strive for. The understanding that in this life we cannot come more than just close to what God is morally should not stop us from trying to live a better more loving existence.
"If you have been told God is some kind of punishing, capricious, angry bastard with a killer surveillance system, who is basically always been disappointed with you for being a human being, you have been lied to."
Totally true!
everything is recorded. just watch some near death experiences you will find so many telling of this experience of watching a movie of their life and being judged for it... it's a warning we should take very seriously.
RFS
Matthew 16:18
And I tell you that you are Peter(rock), and on this rock I will build MY CHURCH!!!, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.
John 20.23
Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
Why this is not respected if you taken exclusively from the Bible?
Martin Luther is rolling in his grave
Powerful stuff, what a inspiring sermon.
Why would a pastor speak to a group without referencing scripture?
Exactly
Yet she literally displayed it in her spirit and the content of her message. The REMAH, or the spirit of the Word was all over it.
To unintentionally draw out the religious pharisees, thank you for showing up👌😙
It took exactly this type of speech..from exactly this kind of person, to help turn my little bunghole of a heart...towards God.
Im one of those people she is speaking of!
I grew up (in the Catholic Church) Went to Catholic school... All the while, secretly thinking of the church as some egotistical puritanical, hypocritical system of punishment and reward. A "Meritocracy " created by a bunch of stuffy dingbats, used to control the mindless masses. Her words, and this speech- may not work for some ( that's ok! ) but it has helped me... immeasurably! Im back in baby's arms so to speak and I return to this video often. It still has the power to bring me to tears.. I had it SO wrong, for so long... and its people like Nadia , (and Richard Rohr!) that have helped 'save' what some (Jerks! ) called
The 'unsavable' ... (Myself included)
It takes all kinds to make a world.. and took just this kind of speech to help some of us find our way "home". Saint Francis said .. " Preach the Gospel always, and if necessary, use words…” I didnt need someone spouting scripture (that they didn't seem to even embody) from some ' ivory tower' of self righteousness. What I needed was a 'translator' that I could relate to.. and thank you Nadia, for being that person.
All that is fine, except we need to remember that new creatures in Christ have a new Master. He is Lord and Savior by grace. Grace that cannot change your life cannot save your soul. Jesus said to the adulterous woman...."Go and sin no more." Romans 5:21 says: Grace reigns in righteousness...sin reigns in death. You cannot serve God and mammon. Paul said to stop sinning. Jesus said, My sheep hear my voice and they follow me. Who are you following? There is no excuse for sin. If you are living in sin do not call yourself a christian for God's foundation is sure sealed with this inscription: The Lord knows those who are His and let everyone who confesses the Name of the Lord turn away from wickedness, for on that day many will call him Lord Lord, but He will say, "I don't know you depart from me you who work iniquity." He cannot be savior of your life unless He is Lord of your life. Read that in Romans 10:9 and 10. So don't be misled by sweet preaching. God is a God of wrath too. It's in the bible.
Yes please people this is the truth.
How does she know that Hell is imaginary ? What is her authority ?
What is anyone's authority to question?
glen powell - her authority is satan.
@@vaquero3578- people have made that claim against anyone they don't understand.
Glenn Powell - for one thing, the bible says that the unmoving earth rests on pillars over Hell, and the sun orbits above earth right below the big dome of the firmament in the sky. In other words, the bible is merely mythological poetry, not history and not science.
@Heidi K. bottom line is we are supposed to be like Christ...or strive to be. Thats what Christian means. We are human so all we can do is try. We all fall short somehow sometime. So many so called Christians are so self righteous and judgemental that many people shy away from Him because of it. ..or they say they will wait until they are, in their own eyes, good enough to go to church which is very sad.
YOU, ME, nor anyone else are any better than another.
How can you say her message is wrong?
It isnt wrong. Shame is evil. Guilt is evil. Anger is evil. Resentment is evil. This woman is not at all evil. Neither is tolerance, forgiveness acceptance and grace.
The apostle Paul asks in Romans 6, “Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can keep on showing us more and more kindness and forgiveness?
Of course not! Should we keep on sinning when we don’t have to? For sin’s power over us was broken when we became Christians and were baptized to become a part of Jesus Christ; through his death the power of your sinful nature was shattered. Your old sin-loving nature was buried with him by baptism when he died; and when God the Father, with glorious power, brought him back to life again, you were given his wonderful new life to enjoy.”
Please read this entire chapter, Nadia.
Yes, thank you. It's appalling that this woman is an ordained minister as she barely seems acquainted with the Bible or Christianity's most basic tenets. She's focused on her own deliberately self-aggrandizing interpretations, her vanity, her need to be center of attention. This is not Christianity; it's a bad TED Talk and a cult of personality.
Says a bunch of completely reasonable, compassionate, and theologically true statements about forgiveness. Trolls focus on the thirty seconds she mentions she doesn't believe hell is 100% real. Cool cool cool. Our world is broken and people suck. cool.
What's the deal with the two robots at the Beyonce part of the talk? 7:10-ish mark. Nothing. Hahaha!
READING FROM A SCRIPT.
She is not a pastor. She is an IMPOSTOR.
Complete heresy
@Elwyn Cymru you follow this womans heresy, so her heresy is your heresy friend.
It's so lazy to call something heresy without explaining it but just the word is not appropriate it's not keeping with an adult conversation
Joseph Vincent She rejects the existence of Hell, she can simply be dismissed as a manifest heretic.
it goes against all Apostolic teaching, Jesus spoke explicitly about its existence.
I’ve also had a very frightening supernatural experience so I have no doubt, I used to be an atheist. She is wrong Hell is real and so are demons it’s why you see so much evil manifest in the world, the Bible is clear Satan is the prince of this world.
If we put anything above Jesus we lose the plot. Even if we put good things like love, peace and happiness above Jesus.
Jesus isn't cool. He isn't uncool. He is mighty to save. He renews our hearts and minds. He is holy, he wants us to be holy. When we have the Holy Spirit in us we want to talk about Jesus Jesus Jesus! Name above all names.. Even Beyoncé.
Actually most churches do talk about forgiveness if there sermon is about a sin it always ends in forgiveness you act like churches are always telling you your horrible there not it seems to me you do not finish a "real" sermon instead you turn to the next cool Ted talk. Forgiveness is the definition of the church. Yes the church has at times done horrible things but that isnt the true church it's when the church becomes like the pharisees and are righteous that's when it's bad but most churches arent that. Just becuase they speak a hard truth doesnt mean they dont end it in jesus. Just saying
Why, when they pan the audience, do you see most women smiling, laughing....and most men, with frozen faces?
Just save your money, and be an atheist
Religious splaining
There is just enough truth mixed in with lies to seriously deceive those who have little to no knowledge of the Word of God.
Or they recognize a fraud when they see one
Tradition (handed down instead of written, since the world's Romans and their predecessors and successors were, and always have been since then, out to exterminate any fleshly manifestation of God's glory on this earth, as they sought to do with Jesus and, with His mother after His ascension) tells us that St. Mary the Blessed Virgin sewed the first vestments for the bishops of the Church. Jesus wouldn't have been weirded out by vestments (or the guarantee of hearing inspired and inspiring Scripture by means of Liturgy -- and only hearing Scripture, instead of having to listen to un-Biblical, un-liturgical sermons extolling the world's CULTure that's so miserable to the seeker of God). Vestments and liturgy were a huge part of Temple Judaism so, they became part of Church Christianity, the fulfilled Judaism of the Jews who had accepted their Messiah Jesus of Nazareth. It's those who love this humanistic world who've become so utterly Diabolical who can't understand the serenity, the paltry yet sincere attempt at reflecting God's majesty, and the assurance of continuity of the faith throughout the ages that vestments and paraments (Church Liturgical decorations) can mean to believers (and for catechumens -- seekers -- who climb up out of the Devil's destructive lap and want to realize something higher than this rapidly disappearing world).
was Jesus the most gracious man who ever lived on the earth when he addressed the prostitute, "neither do i condemn you, go and sin no more"? I think so...so why does the pastor Nadia Botz-Weber is so eager to prove she is not condemning the "sinners", though she is constantly condemning Churches for their attitude toward "sinners", but never mentions go and sin no more, like Jesus did?
Her message has good valid points....but it is undermined when she speaks in a manner that is contrary to the working of the Holy Spirit's will! No place in scripture does it say or elude it being OK to use of vulgar language- and this is a sign of being led by the loving Holy Spirit of God. The exact opposite is true.
Nadia's anger filled statements shows she is in need of deliverance/healing from anger and resentment. She is using the "right words" but her delivery shows she is not really living from a place of freedom from anger, resentment and bitterness from her past. This shows up in her frequent use of foul language. I know....for I was in the same place....until God delivered me from my anger and resentment issues from my past. Now I am truely free, and better able to hear and following the leading of the Holy Spirit in my life.
"Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them." Ephesians 4:29 (NLT)
"Avoid worthless, foolish talk that only leads to more godless behavior." 2 Timothy 2:16 (NLT)
Really? Jesus was labeled as a drunkard, a glutton and a man who ate with the ultimate sinners of his time, tax collectors and then there were the women of unsavory character he ate with. So, get out your reading glasses, clean out your mental prejudices, judgmental self righteousness and actually READ your "life manual" . People like you are why I no longer go to church. A woman like Nadia Bolz-Weber may actually be a reason to return. To quote Ghandi, I like Christianity and would be one if it wasnt for the Christians I have met!
Interesting that you chose to point out her language and NOT the absence of Christ, and Sin, and Hell and Christs sacriice on the cross.
Wait. You object because she said "shit" a few times? A completely made-up word that is one step more vulgar than "poop?" Grow up. Find something more important to worry about.
There is nothing in the bible that says swearing is a sin -
Rebekka VanNess No it doesn’t. Don’t make up stuff.
Is Nadia of Jewish descent?
Is Jesus of Jewish descent?
@@bjornlange635 Yes.