WHAT KILLED MTV? Why don't they play music anymore?!
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What killed MTV? Is it because they stopped playing music videos in favor of reality TV shows like The Real World and Jersey Shore? Some of what I talk about:
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- Their early history and shows like Yo MTV Raps, Headbangers Ball and The Week In Rock
- How The Real World season 1 changed everything by creating reality TV
- How shows like Beavis & Butthead and Road Rules helped them become a lifestyle channel and stop playing music videos
- How The Osbournes, Meet The Barkers and Newlyweds pioneered Keeping Up With The Kardashians
- How Jackass, Viva La Bam, Wild Boyz and Tom Green pioneered prank channels like Fouseytube and Roman Atwood
- The golden years of shows like Next, Room Raiders, Taildaters, Date My Mom, Cribs, Parental Control and more
- Their last big hits like Jersey Shore, The Hills w/ Lauren Conrad and Life of Ryan w/ Ryan Sheckler
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"What killed MTV?"
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Nah... The 90s were the golden years. The 2000s were the beginning of the decline that led to the pregnant teenager marathons.
Agreed 100%
Except that's wrong. And the numbers prove it.
That's the point I stopped watching lol
I was gonna say the same thing..
The 90's were when what was played on MTV determined what was popular, but they weren't the golden years if you're referring to MTV as a music broadcasting channel. The 80's were when MTV was playing videos essentially 24/7, and the 90's were when that slowly began to decline, but at least they were pretty good about playing music videos all morning and at night. In the 00's it was almost as if radio became king once again, at least for a bit, because MTV almost completely dropped music videos from their rotation that decade. Now social media has completely taken over so no one cares about either MTV or radio anyway.
Either you weren't allowed to or were too young to remember MTV in the late 80's, early 90's but it wasn't just New Kids on the Block. After school it was nothing but awesome videos, Alice in Chains, Metallica, G n R, Tool etc. Hangin with MTV, Rockline plus Head Bangers ball Saturday Night. Also lets not forget Liquid Television, Half Hour Comedy hour and Remote Control. It was non-stop awesome!
Yeah, idk what Finn is talking about here when he says it was just New Kids on the Block and MC Hammer. I remember seeing all kinds of music all day long like Nirvana, Green Day, Danzig, Pantera, etc. Plus pop punk exploded with TRL, Ocean Avenue by Yellowcard was number 1 forever, not to mention that other pop punk bands like Good Charlotte, New Found Glory, Sum 41, and especially Blink 182 owned the top slots on TRL in the late 90s and early 00s. Finn makes great videos and does good research, but I have no idea what MTV he was watching.
@@rcalv25 he was watching reality shows apparently.
this dude isn't old enough to make decent commentary on the rise and fall of MTV. I was in my teens when MTV arrived to cable TV. there had been a huge ad campaign before it's official launch and everyone was stoked to get it piped into their homes. He also doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to what was being played and what people were listening too, even without MTV. the music is out there, and people that are into it know about it without it being spoon fed to them via big budget music videos. some of the best bands I've ever heard never had a music video.
He dates himself in his criticism. The rotation of videos he eludes to would've been ages after its launch. He doesn't even mention the Heavy Metal Half Hour and I don't recall him mentioning 120 Minutes either.
Vanilla Ice wasn’t event around in 1989.
Would Nirvana -- and Grunge/Alternative -- have gotten huge if not for MTV?
CherryPicking it was huge
MTV definitely helped. I remember as a kid watching Blackhole Sun and a few other if those grunge hits and getting hooked. He skipped over this era big time. Remember Spring Break? That was huge.
Maybe
Yes because they played on the radio...I heard Welcome to the Jungle for the first time on the radio and it was a game changer from that point on...
MTV created Grunge -- when they switched from the Hair Metal bands to NIrvana and Alice, that's when it took off, if you look at the playlists, the shift started in 1990-1991, so that by January 1992, Kurt Cobain in that gym was all you saw on MTV.
Video killed the radio star...
The internet killed the video star...
What will kill the Internet?
The Internet has created thousands more video stars.
@@daveschrdinger government.
SDDRDZE Drop Dead, Gorgeous
Facebook killed the internet
"MTV"? Don't you mean The Rob Dyrdek Network?
Facts all I see on the guide is ridiculousness
😂😂😂
Lol, he is funny. Loved the earlier years with Rob and Big. RIP Big.
@@28kcskate Ridiculousness is played like 25/8 😂
......starring rob dyrdek......
Not playing music basically at all did kill them . In the 90’s (at their very peak) it was a mix between music and good shows what really worked . Plus a lot of the shows also had to do with music or with relevant topics for young people .The real world was revolutionary. I absolutely loved it .
I totally agree with that.
My jam was Liquid Television" that is where Bevis and Butthead actually began.
Aeon Flux
Isn't this where they played The Maxx?
@@MrKyuriel it could be. The Maxx run in 1995, Liquid Television apparently ended that very same year. I am not certain though, I was 5 at the time.
I hoped he'd also mentioned Daria. It was such a good show, and really pivotal in the teen/young adult animation demographic. I hope I can find a video somewhere that talks about the now defunct MTV Animation dept/studio. It fascinates me.
My favorite Sun night show
What killed MTV? People with no talent.
And pregnant 16 year old girls
@@lunahetfield And for making The Kardashians happen.
Black music
Because you get kids wanted shitty reality tv and that’s their demographic 🤷🏼♂️
@@RM-yf2lu then you might as well say all music because blacks influenced a lot of the music you have on your phone rn, but you could’ve just said rap or hip hop racist pos
MTV was at one time “everything” to us as kids
Hell yes
Dude, even during the early 2010s when I was growing up they still managed to be a big force in my life. Of course they were way past their prime, but during that era of my existence it was the only way I could absorb contemporary culture. The One Direction, Train, Nikki Minaj music videos were what got 6 year old me interested in music in the first place. I really owe MTV
I hate to admit it but MTV 2 is how I discovered a lot of solid bands. Between that and reading Option Magazine whenever I could get my hands on it I got exposed to a lot of artists off the beaten path in my teens even though I lived in the middle of nowhere.
I remember watching MTV and VH1 a lot in the mid 2000s when i was a kid. Although I resort to UA-cam now I still remember loving alot of artist I have my playlist now from that channel. Music is always is going to keep evolving and changing, but its the memories we have with the songs and artists that won't.
Yes. That’s how I discovered Killswitch Engage.
If you ask me, reality TV killed not just MTV, but pop culture as a whole. Starting with 'The Real World' I blame that show for giving us all the reality crap we have now. The fact that worthless celebrities like The Kardashians are bigger than people with REAL talent who have to struggle to make it big infuriates me. However, as much as I want to see MTV return as A 24/7 music channel, music in general is very niche despite having A large impact on the culture. Sure, some of us like music, but the people who are So open minded that they will listen to ANY kind of music is very small.
just because somebody can sing doesn't mean they deserve to be millionaires. somebody who can singer isn't any better than a rich girl with a sex tape.....you sound elitist
Thats just entertainment for you in general. Look at professional athletes or anything else we hold dear at the top for entertainment purposes. They all get paid a shit load.
Actually I think people being super open minded and listening to any music has changed what music even is in pop culture among the youth.
As much as I have always been that person who will listen to anything, generations of kids who were obsessed with their niche corner of the music sphere actually was good for music. Like Rap having it’s own community meant you could market to that community. Metal having dedicated metal heads meant you knew what that market was. A lot of genras have bled into each other. Like modern country is very pop-music, rap/rock/punk etc have blended and melted-pot into each other so hard the frail line between them has now frazzled and broken. Almost any genra is pop music now. Those dedicated niche communities is what made shows like TRL or Yo!MTV Raps such special experiences. The internet has also changed everything. If something is popular now it’s ‘trending’ popular and everyone can access that trend via the same internet.
From 2009 onwards, YT became the primary medium for promoting new music, including, of course, music videos, so MTV lost the role they previously had. Furthermore, newly remastered old music videos in HD or even 4K are still exclusive to YT.
I haven't watched MTV since the late 1990s and watched out of curiosity while staying at a hotel. The show "Ridiculousness" came on and all I could conclude was that Idiocracy predicted mankind's future accurately. This show IS "Ow My Balls".
Very true comment.
Ow my balls always has been and always will be funny.
Ridiculousness was in 1990s ?
@@zachvitto5831 semantics error
@@zachvitto5831 remember that television show called "Real TV" from the 90s? its one of those "caught on tapes" shows, ridiculousness is basically exactly that and these types of television series have pretty much existed since the invention and eventual widespread use of the home video camera.
Headbangers ball was sick. That’s how I found a lot of good bands lol
it was good during the late 80s ..in the early 90s they started adding Blind Melon to Headbanger's Ball ..I remember watching it with the band after practice and us saying " what the fuck? "
Gary Go Round 1701 lmao poor Blind Melon..
I totally miss headbangers ball. Some of the best bands ever on there.
Fuck Yeah🤘
Right on.......
I completely forgot about room raiders 😂 legit enjoyed that back when I was 13 waiting for pimp my ride to come on
For those of us living in nowhereville, it was my introduction to alternative lifestyles. The only place I saw people who normally wore tattoos, piercings, spoke about LGBT+, living styles - really eye opening as I was growing up.
Oh man Celebrity Death Match ruled my childhood
Hell yeah because" Stone Cold said so" and Manson planning some diabolical plan...
Migraine boy?!
Got a kick out of it. My father thought Celebrity death match was a terrible show. An ad for Celebrity Big Brother came on, so I said "Celebrity Death Match doesn't look so bad now, huh?"
I really liked that show when was a kid. I watched some of it again like a year ago and it was garbage. I couldn't believe it made me have fun. Unfunny cringe is all it is to my current adult self.
And the winner..marilyn Manson
Him: *takes 2 steps off the bus*
Her: “NEXT”
That show was hilarious, just for the moments like that too hahaha. Ever seen Parental Control? The show where the parents get to choose a date (a date picked by mom & oone by dad) in hopes of their kid leaving their current BF/GF.
Or How about Room Raiders?? That was good too
Ghost6ix yeah parental control was hilarious. So was silent library.
I fucking loved next!!
Ghost6ix duuuuuude!
Yo Mama? with Wilmer Valderama and all those dating shows were awesome. Was a huge fan of Fantasy Factory and Rob and Big back in the later years and still watch the Challenge.
the thong song is art, how dare you talk about it like that
I remember when I watched MTV and Alternative Nation turned me on to Gallon Drunk, Inspiral Carpets, Can, PJ Harvey, David Devant And His Spirit Wife, Morrissey, John Spencer Blues Explosion, The Charlatans, Throwing Muses, Kristen Hersh, etc.
90'S KIDS
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH!!?!
Yes!!!!
I just watched mtv for this and beavis and butthead :p
Yas
For sure!
Glad I wasted my time watching CDM
That moment when you ask yourself “why doesn’t MTV play music video anymore?” Stop, turn on the radio to the local to 40 station. Force yourself to listen to that for an hour. Then ask yourself if you really need to see videos of the crap you forced yourself to listen to. Because these are the songs you will see over and over again till your eyes tear themselves from your eyesockets.
They used to show a huge variety. They cut their variety down during the Carson Daly era. If it wasn't for MTV, we'd probably have no idea who Greenday was. Which may or may not be a thing for ya.
I gave up on radio in the 90's as a teen because I could not stand the being force fed Nirvana and the rest of the grunge crap.
Now the popular music is all girls diaries over a crappy soundtrack. Who needs a video of that shit.
It should be noted that there WERE EARLIER tv showcases for mv's than frigging MTV that this guy failed to mention here, like namely The Kenny Everett Video Show, Video West, Friday's, Night Flight, .. . THESE, however, were just regular program-length things, not twenty-four-hour channels like big M, and were mostly ran late at night on syndicated tv. I also remember the early pay-tv channels during the late '70s and early '80s showing them in between main features a lot
No band ever made a dime off of videos, they had to fork out the money to make them as freebee commercials.
It's pretty impressive MTV kept reinventing itself and was a huge part of 4 decades of teenagers growing up. Gotta give them props for that
Can't believe there wasn't one mention of TRL.
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That was good too. Really propelled PRoach's career too.
So basically, UA-cam is this generation's MTV.
Yep
@@ThePunkRockMBA your channel is about music. And we just stumble across it in our feeds. And I think about that sr 71 song 1985.
Bring back Bruce Springsteen, madonna, and way before nirvana there was u2, and blondie and music still on MTV.
Hopefully youtube still has people that care about music in the future
@@ThePunkRockMBA you like a smaller MTV news
@@johnindigo5477 that's Bowling for Soup - 1985. SR 71 was an awesome band though.
@@iLLSquad SR 71 wrote 1985
Omg yes room raiders was one of my favorites! that and the silent library! omg Silent library had a lot of the unknown bands in the pop punk, power pop and post hard core scenes as guess stars back then!
"What's your name?" "Rey" "Rey who?" "Reyd Shadow Legends"
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I will never. EVER. play raid shadow legends.
@@Astra_Dystopium why
xBrandon 24 I don’t know. CuZ I don’t want to?
I honestly have it a shot it was way to laggy for my phone
"I'm trying to have a GOOD time, with my boi!"
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I lol'd.
When I was like 8 or 9 (early mid 2000’s) we’d go out to my grandparent’s house for the holidays and I’d always end up sneaking downstairs to watch Headbanger’s Ball. My dad would usually end up telling me that MTV used to be all about the music and wtf happened? Lol.. as a tween I’d sometimes watch Made, Date My Mom, and Parental Control..
Now imagine try watching a re-run of those shows, especially the latter two. It’s a fucking nightmare cringe fest but oh so amazing and entertaining!!
I thought Head Bangers Ball was over before 2000.
Head Bangers Ball was brought back in the early 2000's but it was originally first out in the 80's. You weren't watching it during its heyday.
@@mascara1777 It aired from 1987 to 95 😢 … remember the last show. They never restarted it on MTV. I think around 2004 they re-launched it on MTV2 for almost a decade.
The one thing that I took for granted about MTV was how much HARD FUCKING WORK it takes to put a show together......... Editing, creativity, etc etc etc !!!!!!!!!!
Remember kids: “If these guys don’t clean their teeth, It probably means they have smelly balls.”
Next was so good lol
The Punk Rock MBA so was this video , crushed the cultural commentary 💪
its true i havent burhsed my teeth in a few days and my balls smell horrid
@@PabzRoz Same, The teeth on my balls smell pretty bad too. Funny how that works.
I clean my teeth and I have smelly balls. What's wrong with me?
Headbangers Ball introduced me to Underoath and the The Human Abstract when I was a young lad. I miss those days.
Jesse Roberts I fucking love Underoath
The human abstract nocturne is still on my playlist
I remember “Jerry Was a Race Car Driver” blowing my mind. Also...I’m old.
Underoath forever! MYYYYYYYY KNUCKLES HAVE TURNED TO WHIIIIIIIITE!
I remember playing Underoath at my youth group once and every one hated it hahaha. I'm like "its okay, its christian!" No one cared. I still love them today.
Your content is so important for music. Thank you for doing what you do Brother, thank you!
I can’t believe you didn’t even mention mtv’s 120 minutes, considering how important they were to alternative music. Also it would be cool to talk about night flight which although not mtv made an impact as they showed underground videos , even played and introduced me to cool stuff such as the diy punk documentary “ another state of mind “ and “ ladies and gentlemen the fabulous stains”
Never realized how much these MTV shows I used to love laid the ground for literally everything, especially UA-cam. You truly are spitting the facts Professor Mckenty
If you haven't yet, I suggest reading the book "I Want My MTV." It's basically a series of interviews/commentaries with various bands/musicians, MTV execs, etc. It also dispels the popular narrative that MTV immediately blew up when it premiered in August of 1981. In its first year or so, the network was struggling quite a bit - they had a small selection of videos to work with (at least a third of which were Rod Stewart songs), a number of technical/production issues to iron out, etc. And nobody was sure it would even last. But then "Thriller," the "I Want My MTV" campaign, etc. happened the following year. And the rest, they say, is history.
Not mentioned in the video that I thought was really good for MTV was MTV Unplugged. Some of MTV's finest moments also came from those shows.
I remember on MTV2 they had some music video hour where voters online could vote in what they wanted to watch out of 3 choices. I never really thought about how different it is today, because back then it was a moment to get hype when MTV played your favorite music videos by your favorite artists.
MuchMusic and Fuse
There were plenty of MTV channels at some point … rock, rap, r&b etc … but all encrypted … MTV 2 I remember from the 2000s cable aera.
2000-2006 were golden years? I remember being a teen/early adult and couldn't stand the content anymore
Yes, they were. Financially speaking.
@@NRobertAlexander Financially yes, but in terms of cultural impact? In the early 2000s they were mainly on the reality TV bandwagon, which they started a few years earlier with The Real World. In terms of music trends MTV was way more relevant in the 80s and 90s.
90's were the golden years of Mtv in music and terms of cultural impact with important award shows and legendary performances, new show realities like real world and good music shows..in 2004 the golden era was gone
to me 2002 was the dead end year .... wehn they showed more non music shit then music videos and awards and live shows and all that ...
You just grew out of it. Those years jackass and vila la bam were big those were the golden years for me
I liked MTV for the music, nothing else really. I watched Headbanger's Ball, Beavis and Butt-Head, 120 Minutes. Yeah, I'm old!
The rose tinted shades are strong with everyone that complains about how they don't play music videos anymore. We all want to go back to something thats makes are feel like we did during our formative years but honestly when you go back it will never be the same. It was a moment in time and trying to recapture that feeling is nearly impossible.
I love how you show clips of everything you are talking about and not making me have to pause and google everything (I’m 22, Idk much of any of these shows) respect the work you put in for kids that doesn’t like the music of “today”
Well, you are 22 … and most of those shows were airing around the time you were born … your parents might have watched them whilst … aehem … inventing you …
"You have UA-cam. What do you need MTV for?"
UA-cam launched in 2006, the same year you begin the decline of MTV. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not.
I'm about your age but I never really had MTV. My folks refused to get cable for the longest time. As my dad said "why would anyone pay for television?" Eventually he gave in but by that point I was pretty much an adult and didn't really care that much anymore. I don't pay for TV today. But that's a whole other thing. We have the internet today and more broadcast channels than ever..
I did catch MTV at my friend's houses though and was always mesmerized. They would flip through fifty channels barely giving each a second and say nothing good was on, meanwhile I was like "wait... what was that... and that... and..." I remember MTV mostly in the '92-95 era when grunge was big and industrial was also in its heyday. Kinda wish I would have had cable then to see shows like Headbangers Ball more than just every once in a great while.
I wonder if MTV went retro today and started playing just a lot of music videos along with a few classic style shows like Headbangers Ball, if it that would respark the channel. Maybe the current youngsters would be into that as something novel. What's old is new again kind of thing. Unlike a video on UA-cam you have to find or go out of your way to play, the one thing TV still has going for it is the auto-on nature of it. Where you just turn the channel and something is playing and you just get sucked into watching it, no matter how terrible it might be. Something you would have never clicked on if you saw the thumbnail on youtube. That's assuming you have cable and even turn the TV on.
Probably not. My fifteen year old son barely even touches a regular computer let alone a TV if he isn't playing Xbox. It's pretty much just his phone for everything. I don't get it. I gotta have a laptop. A tiny phone screen just doesn't work for me.
UA-cam wasnt taking viewers away from tv until well after 2006 imo
I agree. We have had unlimitee content for 10+ years now, but why should we have to do all the work of deciding which UA-cam video to watch? Even if MTV was corporate and somewhat bland, the content was curated- we are swimming in content, but we have few curators sifting through the pile with a human connection to sell us on what is good.
More like 2008
@Ayan Majumdar last year covid 19 lockdowns found me without laptop, and with a burned CPU of my desktop. Frankly I had a USB OTG cable, and a wireless KBM combo, so I got shit done despite the small screen size.
Currently on my laptop reading this.
I miss Beavis & Butthead AND Headbangers Ball
those shows helped me discover so many bandsss
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What about Alturnative Nation? That show deserves a mention, it played some really cool music that wasn't mainstream. Also Liquid Television was really innovative and Celebrity Death Match was alot of fun. Those shows deserve a mention as well.
Celebrity Death Match was hyped so that you want to look it up on UA-cam, obviously you definitely don't want to watch it on the actual TV being that actual, legitimate TV shows also exist for the TV time. But then when you go and actually look at it, it's boring and not even funny. Mostly just people being assholes toward whatever celebrity too. It was supposed to allegedly be comedy, but literally zero laughs ensued. Hence why nobody is still looking this up on UA-cam even when it had only been 6 years old.
Don't know how you ended up in my content feed, but I'm happy about it. Very interesting look on these topics. I'll be digging into all of the old videos, for sure. 🥰
Thank you!
I'd say Catfish was their last big hit.
And God I loved those dating shows as kid for some reason like Hell Date and Date My Mom and all that.
Yeah Hell Date was my jam when I was a kid 😅
room raiders 😅
I cant remember the show call i think it was Next where the people get off the bus and they tell about themselves n stuff..
Hahaha Date My Mum was so good!
They just came out with a true crime show that's really good too. The guy from Catfish made it.
I would like a "what effect did they have?" series for pop culture icons and music. The boys from jackass, different athletes, movie stars, something like that. I dont know, but it looked like there might be a cool story between Bam Margera and H.I.M. . Just a thought.
Love that idea!
Hold on while finn travels back and time and becomes an expert real quick while pretending he was a part of it
I might take one step removed from Bam and say THPS. I don't think Bam and the Jack ass guys would have blown up the same if all the skate stuff hadn't gone as big as it did. Although I guess that difference is only a year or so.
I stumbled upon your channel about a week or two ago and I absolutely love it. You're such a genuine dude. I especially love that you do your absolute best not to isolate any view point. These days thats impressive as hell and sorely needed. I'm not gonna lie - your channel name did not have me enticed. But I'm glad I checked it out. Gonna go ahead and continue binging the rest of your content now. Thanks for all your hard work :)
Thank you!
I was 17 when MTV aired “Video Killed the Radio Star”…when it first went live. We had to pay $3/mo. for the black box along with HBO and Showtime for like $12 or whatever. I knew instantly that it would be huge! To me, “The Real World” killed all of it…even mainstream TV. 🤘🤘🤘
I was hoping for a Dead Kennedys' "MTV, Get Off The Air" cameo.
I meant to include it actually lol
@@ThePunkRockMBA Still a great video! But knowing that the intent was there is fulfilling enough.
The "Real" World ruined more than just MTV
It was coupled later in the 1990's with a work stoppage by a scriptwriter's union. Producers discovered they could save a lot of money on overhead by hiring neither actors with a pedigree or a scriptwriter, produce a "reality TV show," earn the same advertising revenue for the time slot, and make a MUCH higher profit since expenses were a lot lower. Reality TV was and is the bane of creative programming.
I couldn't agree more.
So true!
You're insinuating that there wasn't much diversity in those "Mtv golden years", and most of us remember it differently. Sure there was a lot of corny pop music, but there was a lot of other genres and shows as well. MTV News, I felt is what brought the musical listening masses together.
Man growing up in the 80's ,90's and 2000 's was awesome. Dude MTV in 2007 got me into limp bizkit and Maryln Manson..headbangers ball and Gonzo...its probably the reason im subscribed to your channel right now
Quite a few points to make here
1. When MP3s came out and we were ripping CDs left and right, we still watched MTV. 120 minutes was the Obscure music show, there you could find the music you would never hear anywhere else
Tom Green was the first to do the crazy UA-cam stuff way before YT's time. He predated Jackass. Then he did his own show from his mom's house, which I believe he was one of the first to do that
I'm saying this as a joke, but don't ever say Whack while having Guns and Roses on the screen lol. They started riots and often
Parties used to revolve on MTV before things got wild. MTV was always on in my house. It's probably the biggest reason why I became a musician. Again, before UA-cam, I would play along with the music.
Tons of us waited for hours and even days for a specific video to play. You kids think about that lol.
One of the biggest things that people don't even mention or think about, is that an artist's music video was a major deal. Like Tool's videos were and still are a big deal when they come out.
Also one of the biggest things of all, is the music video industry made a lot of people money. Certain directors were sought out because they specialized in unique and innovative videos. Spike Jones, Hype Williams, Gondry. Also the entire production team had jobs
I hated TRL, you forgot that one, but it was a big deal to the teens. Us rockers hated that show and that kept a lot of us from watching.
I don't what the kids talk about these days. But we would talk about music videos. Even the highly anticipated premise of a music video, it wasn't a Huge Deal, but it was a thing people looked forward to. MTV kept a lot of kids home. If I wasn't jamming, I was watching MTV or wrestling at home. We would go to each other's houses just to watch MTV for hours
It was more than a music channel, it was a center piece for a lot of us. We aren't complaining about it going to shit, we're grieving
That's all true...
A lot of the purpose we had as kids/teens for MtV, was to sit around and jam, or party while it was on...or hell, we'd just lay around and watch it while we talked about what we were seein...and again, once we were back at school, or off the couch anywhere else, we'd still be discussin'what we saw on MtV, be it the latest vid., Somethin that happened on MtV News, concert dates, or the newest animated series episode.
...and shit yes, we'd wait for 2 weeks for a video to make its debut. All that anticipation. Jesus. Lol. What a rush. ..and all for 3 mins or less of a vid.--well worth it thow. [I'd wait all day just to get home for Headbanger's Ball, to see the chat with whatever band was on!]
MtV wasnt a channel, it was a frame of mind!
You know what a *lot* of the kids are talking about on UA-cam nowadays? The music we of the MTV generation (and before) grew up on! Check out the dozens of "react video" channels here.
Rocker here, Korn and Limp Bizkit dominated TRL. I'd watch it just to see their videos beat Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys in the countdown.
thanks for the essay
Mtv died over here in Germany/austria etc. when it went from free tv to pay tv. They thought people would pay extra for watching mtv, but somehow noone did...
Waiting for an oil change and binging your channel. Thank you for the content 🔥
Dude I actually love hearing you speak, as someone who was born in ‘95 I’m really happy to hear someone speak so eloquently about the best period of MTV, It’s prime time, and I do definitely feel that ‘MTV doesn’t play music anymore’ (as opposed to other music channels like VH1) but man, there was this time on MTV with so many TV shows that you mentioned airing that were my absolute shit (like Pimp My Ride, Next, Room Raiders, Made, Date My Mom, even A Shot at Love With Tila Tequila and of course, that one really dramatic reality show that I actually followed from beginning to end, Jersey Shore!) but I do understand what you mean about there not being any gatekeepers anymore and that platforms like UA-cam literally enhanced what MTV started decades ago and had been developing so far, so I guess that kinda compensates the fact that it doesn’t play music anymore. Still, I can’t help but to get nostalgic about better, more entertaining times! But yeah, I’m definitely an avid UA-cam consumer nowadays lol
Vanilla Ice and New Kids On The Block may have been crap.
But I would still rather watch them than any of the exploitative, trashy 'reality' shows that MTV and others have peddled these past 25 years.
I'd love to see Brad Jones review that 'New Kids' cartoon. Also, that show had two 'Robin' voice actors. Loren Lester, and Scott Menville.
Honorable mentions: MTV VMAs, Punk'd, MTV Diary, and the one superstar collaboration they did post-9/11 that lives in my head rent-free. Side note, I can't believe I'm old enough that we're talking about MTV like it's an ancient artifact
80's to early 90's MTV was cool and Headbanger's Ball was the shit. Still have old VHS tapes with the videos I loved as a kid. Haven't watched MTV since they brought back Beavis and Butthead for a season. Pregnant teens and fake reality ain't my thing haha
Dude, I'd love to find old MTV vhs tapes. I'm trying to convert my old tapes to dvd these days.
@@iamnostalgic9567 I have a whole Beta (yes Beta!) tape full (4 1/2 hours) of videos off of Mtv and some from friday night videos, from about 1984. But I don't know the condition of it, I think my brother still has it.
@@ronbeck201 Beta?! Dude, preserve that format. That's super rare. Yeah, the videos (most of them) are easy to come by but, the ads and MTV bumpers are hard to find.
@@iamnostalgic9567 As I remember I cut out the ads as I recorded the videos but I might have got some of the bumpers.
@@ronbeck201 Even that a difficult find. Yeah, whenever a music channel plays 80's videos today, it's usually the common ones. My cousin recorded videos back then and Dwight Twilly's "Girls" was on there. How often do you see that?
Don’t leave out MTV Amp. I discovered so many good electronica artists, like Chemical Brothers, Massive Attack, Fluke and Air. Sad that it ended. No radio station back then played electronica.
.....Wrong.
Great message at the end. It's a great time to get your music out there as an independent artist. Digging your vids man!
Thank you!
UA-cam killed Mtv.
NUFF SAID.
@Mikie E Internet killed the video star...
No.. Mtv was shit long before youtube.
@Mikie E its also brought many great things to life
It was dying before UA-cam.
@@inkinen UA-cam was founded in 2005, and that's the end of the "golden years" per this video. Could be a coincidence, but it's true MTV was losing relevance right as UA-cam was coming up.
Don t forget Rob and Big!! My brother and I loved that show ha.
The Electric Underground I just remember rob dyrdek didn’t start out on ridiculousness
@@osamabindiesel3389 he was a pro skater but he was also a personality outside of sports
I'd like to forget Rob and Big.
Ridiculousness is literally the only show left on the channel, it just plays on repeat
A lot of good points here that I hadn't considered before, would like to see more MTV related videos as I think many of us can say it was a big part of our lives at one point.
This was great! Thanks for that
i'll take watching a music video any time i want to on youtube over having to sit around all day hoping maybe MTV would play helmet or w/e. i was born in the right generation
It was exciting when it came on because you weren't just staring at the tv. You were usually doing something else while mtv was on in the background.
Also, TRL did a lot for the music industry and pop culture at the time. Pop Punk and Boy Bands owe a lot to that show.
TRL was the ish! I remember coming home from school and watching a new band or artist performing. Man I miss those days!!
Yep, for some reason TRL was ignored in this video but it was huge back in the day
TRL was huge. I’m surprised he didn’t mention it.
I’m surprised these people are liking TRL. Everyone I know, regardless of their preferred genre, hated that show because all of the videos were cut short.
I’d say for starters my generation, aka “The MTV Generation” grew up and became the VH1 Generation.
Pimp My Ride is what's define the 2000's. Iconic show.
Yo dawg I heard you like sub-genres. So I put some progressive breaks in your darkcore jungle so you can dubtech while you trapstyle.
Weird way to spell TRL
That show cracked me up...those cars were not drivable when they were done.🤣
@@TheAudraReins "we know you like fish, so we put a fish tank, in yo car!"
@@Treaxvour 🤣🤣 that's it! That was the show
The first time I ever heard/saw Korn was on Beavis and Butthead.
Laz Hahaha yeah😁
Me, too! That's still one of my favorite B & B moments, too!
My dad was a teenager during MTV’s peak in the 1980’s, he taped it every weekend just to see the music videos of the musicians and bands he loved listening to on the radio
Finn.....I was 13 yo in 1981. "I WAS THERE MAN!" I have to say, ive never seen a better breakdown on a subject. You have really honed your talent sir.....Kudos!
Thank you!
I loved MTV's first gameshow "Remote Control"
@Comicbookstoreguy177 ....you're absolutely right.
you know you've made it on YT when you do a Raid: Shadow Legends promo
The big leagues
I loved Mtv, watching TRL discovering new Bands like Queens of the stone age, watching Jackass and Viva la bam at night and imitating that stuff in school with friends, I also loved jersey shore lmao
I watch your channel all the time and I think I'm about 10 years older than you and I gotta say that MTV in the 80s was the best thing EVER. As a kid I watched it nonstop, I was transfixed with the videos, it was LIFE for pretty much everyone. When they brought on shows like headbangers ball, 120 minutes and yo MTV raps it got even better! Shit just died with the inception of the real world and slipped down a slope into complete crap as the years went on, it just got shittier year by year. So sad, it was such a great time while it lasted!
No TRL?!? My micro-generation of ‘80-‘86 has been forgotten once again 😭😭😭 lol killer video man, this is one of your all-time best for real.
I feel like you missed where the golden period was. From my perspective there was a sweet spot in the Late 80's / early 90's where there were programs, but mostly music video based, or music culture based. Programs like you mentioned 120 minutes, Yo MTV Raps, Headbangers ball, then The top 20 or so song that day. There were game shows "Remote Control" Musicians would be guest VJ's sometimes. They covered some large concerts, or Spring break. The Woodstock concert in 94 was great. There were long interviews with the artist, and tons of live sets it went on around the clock and brought the Woodstock festival to your house. Unplugged was terrific even resulted in some great albums. Liquid TV was the experimental show where Bevis & Butthead came from. That played late at night. They also had Dance programs like "The Grind". When the "Real world" came out, it was popular but, not for everyone it was hated by many people. MTV was great cause you could have it on in the background and still hang out with your friends where your not totally sucked in. Once it went all program in the late 90's early 2000's and beyond I hated it, and most people I know felt the same. I still don't understand what happened, why completely destroy your business model? Why not just create another channel that is programs and leave MTV a music television channel?
And it was terrible that Fuse did not come onto every cable company by then, not until at least 5 years later before we finally had Fuse which was better in the first place in 2000s anyway since it was a rock and metal channel! Oh and your description is not "early 90s" it's just 90s; yes MTV got worse before the last year of the 90s which is 2003, and yes Real World already unfortunately existed, but the rest of the channel it still had enough normal shows and videos, it still had TRL, it still had metal shows, we just turned it off if Real World was on or other bad shit.
Fully agree … 80s/early 90s, even to some extend late 90s as shows were annoying but limited … with a couple of ok‘ish ones … Bam, Jackass, punk‘d.
Who remembers The Box???
Btw love you're channel just discovered it cuz of you're rock of love video.. new subbie
Thank you!
I remember as a kid, I my parents wouldn't let me stay up late on weekends. So I would get a blank vhs tape (📼
drinking game idea, every time Finn says "from roughly" you take a shot.
RIP
haha flamed
I dont think finn would want us to die of alcohol poisoning
I'm walking into everything right now and tripping over tables 🤪
What, is this a thing? I'm a Finn and i have never noticed.
2000 - 2006 was an amazing time to be alive, MTV and Tony Hawk games. :')
Dirk Leon , said you millenniums!
🤣😂😅
Amen brother!
For me it was the 90s
Yup. I grew up in the 2000's and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Searching a song on UA-cam isn’t as exciting though in my opinion. I like the build up & the mystery of not knowing the next song that’s going to be played on Music Choice, VH1, on the radio, or at a concert
Cant get enough of your content Finn. Pls do "what killed myspace and what is killing facebook" in terms of music promotion platforms.
“With 2020 eyes”
I believe the term you’re looking for is
2020 vision
Nah, considering the year...
Finn is talking about viewing the past. Not a quip on medical measurements. 😎👍
@@jayfantastic9309 bet you're a blast at parties.
There it is!!!
2:37 "1988 befo0re rap was mainstream" - BULLSHIT! Ice T, The Fat Boys, Run DMC, LL Cool J .. . all popular and all before year 88.
@@pheonix5597 true, but I take into account that the artists you've listed were a lot better in terms of style and quality than what is classed as mainstream rap these days.
Don't forget about TRL and Carson Daily! Definitely defined my pre-teen and early teens year. Great video though man, love the positive spin and perspective.
Nice Job! So many great points.
Keep it up man!
To me, it seemed like the downfall started around the time Carson Daly left TRL. Maybe that is because it was around the time I started working full time and just home to watch it it every day.
I also loved the MTV Movie Awards in the early 2000's, but that was mostly because of the movie parodies. I never really cared for the actual awards, so when they stopped featuring so many parodies between awards, it stopped being worth watching.
MTV Europe was amazing! between 1989 - 1999 they played EVERYTHING:
Rock, Pop, Dance, Eurodance, Hip-Hop, ChillOut, you name it!
What killed them were the horrible reality shows!
I miss the old MTV2, which in the early 2000s did nothing but play music videos, and I got turned on to tons of bands as a result. They played so much unique music.
Two years later to your comment. But yes! There was just a hodgepodge of videos that made no sense. They also played Korn’s videos before they got huge.
Sadly, most people don’t want to hear something unique. They want something catchy, pretty, relatable, and low effort to get into.
I feel old that he's explaining the "golden years" to teenagers. Those were my teen years 😢😢
And I was in my 30s, kid... ;-)
the 90s were the golden years, by 2000 mtv was dead
@@massv953 Naah, 00s were definitely the golden years of MTV.
@@Jehowy666 I was there for the 80s 90s and 2000s mtv....90s was by far the best, 2000s became about a bunch of stupid fucking reality shows
@@massv953 By mid 2000s it was dead … but it started with The Real Life!
I used to love when MTV did spring break
Yeah, I loved watching it as I played computer games. 96-01 is about the span that I would watch MTV, but I can remember almost every Spring Break period.
"Playboy TV lite"
Club la vela baby!!
@@jayfantastic9309 Gyrating to Hot Action Cop by a pool in (insert cheesy beach location)
@@MrMmnngghh PADRE ISLAND!
3:53 In 1993 I was 15 years old. On Saturday nights I'd flip back and forth between Riki Rachtman and SNL with all the badass 90's players- Carvey, Myers, Sandler, Farley, and Hartman (RIP to the last two✌😢)
It was a beautiful time.
Although I agree somewhat, what I think killed MTV was that they set the bar too high first of all with the grunge era and unplugged sets, secondly with their comeback which was Jackass, they could never fill their own boots again.
But MTV Still stalled themselves out when they completely Stopped playing music. That's all we wanted.
If they had their BS shows on in the day and Music at night, that would have been great !
Just like hot topic it’s no longer “all about the music”
@@muppetmuffins1295 probably so, but at least they had stations where you put on headphones and could actually listen to and discover new bands
Muzak?
@@amasterofbation and now it is all mp3 and streaming.
effin ay bruh! I love how you focus on the positives :)
Staying up late to watch to mtv raps with fab 5 freddy and headbangers with Vanessa Warrick during my school days in the 90s was the highlight of week
Come children, gather around the fire. I'll tell you a story about the good old days when MTV was all about music.
God, I'm old.
shut up
I think about that sr 71 song 1985.
Bring back Bruce Springsteen, madonna, and way before nirvana there was u2, and blondie and music still on MTV.
Go away, Cobalt.
As was pointed out, back when it was about music it was overly repetitive and most of it was crap.
How dare you call Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Beck crap..