Hi Daman thanks for a great video. I’m an old CB’er back in the day late 70’s onwards and now using a quansheng UV5 6 modded and a Baofeng UV-5RH unlocked which I use for Airband mostly but it’s 8w and some channels a little more.
It’s all of those headings. I use PMR, it’s good just to listen as I’m driving long distances though still very quiet. I’m not a licensed ham by far, I use an 8w hand held obviously with the best antenna I can, be that a standard 7” job or a 7’ whip type (sizes just for example, not tuned to frequency), because I don’t think it’s doing any harm whatsoever. I’m sure there are foundation amateurs that step over the wattage sometimes, but it’s not a huge crime at all All in all I think it’s good for radio, it gains confidence, knowledge, and promotes it more The CB side, well yes for kids it’s a bit like that, but if they do only have half a watt sets, it’s literally street to street just about A great video, good questions
I’m a licensed ham and do all my main stuff by the book - but if I’m doing experiments or if I’m doing stuff with non licensed people I do it on PMR frequencies. You’re not really bothering anyone over there and the UHF kit is very affordable compared to the alternative which is CB. You can scramble the audio for basic privacy and as you saw you can get loads of range on UHF if you have the right environment/equipment. They should give us the same rights on PMR as the yanks have on GMRS it would let us get more done legally and get more people into HAM.
We use pmr 446 in yorkshire for informal chatter using co linear antennas and radios running approximately 5 watts. Its much more suitable as a modern cb alternative l due to the smaller wavelenthg allowing smaller and more discreet antennas to be set up compared to 11m, additionally less qrm/noise. Also in some areas gateways are set up to link zello to pmr 446 channels. 73.
Thanks for the comment. there is noticeably less QRM on PMR and the distances on 5w are noticeably better and clearer. Gateways on PRM are interesting as well.
Sounds very similar to the FRS radios in the USA - low wattage, channelized, fixed antenna. Except our FRS runs on 462 MHz, and overlays our GMRS band. No license is required to use FRS here. FRS is mostly used by hunters, trail riders, camping, kids, traffic flagmen, and people who don't want to learn radio theory or electronics. FRS radios can be bought cheaply in most department stores with an outdoors section - or sometimes you may find them the toy department. I'm not sure of your band plan over there, but 446 MHz falls within our 70 cm ham band... so American radios could blast hundreds of Watts on 446.
In the late 90s I worked at Motorola who produced pmr hand held radios. I was part of the UK development team. I can recall range tests where we achieved about 50 miles hilltop to hilltop. Our receivers were quite sensitive -118 dBm for 20dB SINAD
Thank you for the comment. I went to Pinhaw Beacon above Earby but unfortunately the main part of the hill was in the way. Going to try Wainman's Pinnacle this Sunday. Your doing a good job and its good to hear you on. Once again thanks.
The newer dpmr ones have never had any users on dpmr, lots of companies using pmr446 across whole band my local, stations, shops, wetherspoon and other pubs,
Maybe up in other areas more non professional use but in south uk most users are the commercial ones as remeber it's really for low power local comms, ok people are ignoring the law and ofcom don't seem to care They probably say to a commercial company it's the risk of using pmr446, better go for a business licence of some description But for many commercial users it suits there needs
My new neighbour and kids are using it which mwans I can hear them in garden but annoyingly close calls on my radio, which I rely want it to hit commercial users going by my flat not kids
Probably bunch of guys that just want to experiment without trying to cause any trouble and probably know its naughty. These new UV5r’s or what ever they are called which are very cheap with antenna detachment allows them to build antennas or beams plus most radios these days can be wide banded too, just my guess.
Hi Daman thanks for a great video. I’m an old CB’er back in the day late 70’s onwards and now using a quansheng UV5 6 modded and a Baofeng UV-5RH unlocked which I use for Airband mostly but it’s 8w and some channels a little more.
Thank you for the comment. I have a baofeng GT-3TP and that works well on PMR frequencies.
Thanking you most kindly I'm new 🆕 too you're UA-cam channel I'm from England
It’s all of those headings.
I use PMR, it’s good just to listen as I’m driving long distances though still very quiet.
I’m not a licensed ham by far, I use an 8w hand held obviously with the best antenna I can, be that a standard 7” job or a 7’ whip type (sizes just for example, not tuned to frequency), because I don’t think it’s doing any harm whatsoever.
I’m sure there are foundation amateurs that step over the wattage sometimes, but it’s not a huge crime at all
All in all I think it’s good for radio, it gains confidence, knowledge, and promotes it more
The CB side, well yes for kids it’s a bit like that, but if they do only have half a watt sets, it’s literally street to street just about
A great video, good questions
I’m a licensed ham and do all my main stuff by the book - but if I’m doing experiments or if I’m doing stuff with non licensed people I do it on PMR frequencies.
You’re not really bothering anyone over there and the UHF kit is very affordable compared to the alternative which is CB.
You can scramble the audio for basic privacy and as you saw you can get loads of range on UHF if you have the right environment/equipment.
They should give us the same rights on PMR as the yanks have on GMRS it would let us get more done legally and get more people into HAM.
We use pmr 446 in yorkshire for informal chatter using co linear antennas and radios running approximately 5 watts. Its much more suitable as a modern cb alternative l due to the smaller wavelenthg allowing smaller and more discreet antennas to be set up compared to 11m, additionally less qrm/noise. Also in some areas gateways are set up to link zello to pmr 446 channels. 73.
Thanks for the comment. there is noticeably less QRM on PMR and the distances on 5w are noticeably better and clearer. Gateways on PRM are interesting as well.
Sounds very similar to the FRS radios in the USA - low wattage, channelized, fixed antenna. Except our FRS runs on 462 MHz, and overlays our GMRS band. No license is required to use FRS here. FRS is mostly used by hunters, trail riders, camping, kids, traffic flagmen, and people who don't want to learn radio theory or electronics. FRS radios can be bought cheaply in most department stores with an outdoors section - or sometimes you may find them the toy department.
I'm not sure of your band plan over there, but 446 MHz falls within our 70 cm ham band... so American radios could blast hundreds of Watts on 446.
@@DellFargus PRM sounds similar. It's is just above our 70cm band so it's easy to use other equipment like antennas.
Love PMR!
Sounds like they’re going through a repeater because of the tail squelch.
The last audio was of me, we don't use a repeater but there is a gateway on PMR13. My set up is a Motorola base station and a dedicated mag mount
In the late 90s I worked at Motorola who produced pmr hand held radios. I was part of the UK development team. I can recall range tests where we achieved about 50 miles hilltop to hilltop. Our receivers were quite sensitive -118 dBm for 20dB SINAD
Just goes to show what 0.5w can do. Thank you for your comment.
It’s very similar to the FCC FRS radio when it was limited to half a watt. Very similar regulations. Just for different frequencies is all.
Yes its very similar. Thank you for the comment
That would be me at Ilkley 👍 Fantastic video and a new sub earned
Thank you for the comment. I went to Pinhaw Beacon above Earby but unfortunately the main part of the hill was in the way. Going to try Wainman's Pinnacle this Sunday. Your doing a good job and its good to hear you on. Once again thanks.
@@G6PNH No problem mate thanks again! We will be on 14 on Sunday so you should hear stations far and wide 👍
@@WestYorkshire446DX Thanks I'll be listening hopefully from a better vantage point.
It's all radio, lots of hams use pmr and SSB cb on 11mtrs I know a few.
@@TelfordO Thank you for your comment. You can tell the hams with the terminology used.
frs in the stat is 2watts but dmr are not allowed on frs.
Same as you English England
You mean pmr446.
It's more used by shops and businesses, and kids
The newer dpmr ones have never had any users on dpmr, lots of companies using pmr446 across whole band my local, stations, shops, wetherspoon and other pubs,
Maybe up in other areas more non professional use but in south uk most users are the commercial ones as remeber it's really for low power local comms, ok people are ignoring the law and ofcom don't seem to care
They probably say to a commercial company it's the risk of using pmr446, better go for a business licence of some description
But for many commercial users it suits there needs
My new neighbour and kids are using it which mwans I can hear them in garden but annoyingly close calls on my radio, which I rely want it to hit commercial users going by my flat not kids
Thank you for your comments. Here in the northwest there is more activity weekend early and late evenings.
Probably bunch of guys that just want to experiment without trying to cause any trouble and probably know its naughty. These new UV5r’s or what ever they are called which are very cheap with antenna detachment allows them to build antennas or beams plus most radios these days can be wide banded too, just my guess.
You mean pmr446
It will be ruined by the music players, mic keyers and the brain dead mentality, just as CB has.
There is them issues currently, especially on channel 8 😢
Unfortunately this happens across all bands including HF. Thanks for your comment.
The new woke by powers that be, it makes one sick
What on earth are you on about?
You mean pmr446