The only problem is the line lay. On mine if I drop-shot the braid (15lb. Powerpro) does not lay evenly on the spool. Other than that, I agree, they are fantastic!
I must be missing because I love my Pfluger Presidents. They handle Erie's smallmouth, 10 lb drums, and steelhead in strong river current just fine. I will come back to this video if I ever have to release one.
Love the budget recognitions. Another budget guy is the guy who knows his stuff(cough: watches all your vids), is an above average fisherman, but doesn't get to go out very much, so he doesn't need a $200 bells and whistles reel. Also, some anglers might prefer a budget reel due to the weight of it to balance the budget rod. It may not make sense to throw a super light $200 reel on a $100 rod due to the weights of each item. Love these vids! One last thing, if you're not in a rush, it really pays to search around and shop the sales. You can easily get mid range stuff Matt and Tim mention for budget prices.
Hidden gem? It’s probably one of the most popular spinning reels on the market due to it’s wide availability. Wal-Marts carry Presidents across the country.
My favorite overall reel is still my Daiwa Regal X 2500c. The main difference being I got my iteration 23 years ago and it weighs almost 12oz. The anti-reverse is classic Daiwa instant, all the important internals are metal, and I'd wish anybody luck on trying to flex the frame stem. I may eventually swap out the old body bushings but they're glorified spacers so it wouldn't do anything but change the feel...something I've gotten quite attuned to.
I swear I bought a 15$ Chinese 8000 size reel around 3 years ago and it's still rolling incredibly smooth and durable to this day. You don't have to pay triple digits for a decent or even great fishing reel nowadays.
For a beginner like myself, this will have to be the most informative video on UA-cam. Wonderful content and really helps understand why there are so many options out there. Thanks!
Same here. I beat it up big time, fresh and salt, and it still works super hard. Mud, salt, weeds sucked up inside of it while turning are nothing to the Nasci!
You guys have really taught me a lot. I’m one of those guys who researches everything so I appreciate how you guys do these videos. It helps a guy like me make a better informed purchase. (me and my son have been watching your videos and we subscribed)
I bought a daiwa regal lt 2500 on sale for $39. Definately impressed for that kind of $. Sticker on the shelf said $69 but rang up $39. Not sure if it was a mistake but its nice enough that i may go back and snag another...
@jeffnaval4894 good to hear man. I'm still extremely impressed by the Regal LT. Ended up buying another in the 3000 size. Without a doubt the best $39 reels money can buy...my only concern was durability but so far so good.
Yep! Have 2012 and 2014 SupremeXT in 2 size both are great despite of all the beating. Also have President XT in 25 and 30 size. small one is almost the same as old supremeXT, but bigger have some weird feeling when reeling. Maybe it's just because it's on heavier rod with heavier line, but still. I think, right now, Pflueger is the best you can get under 100$.
I look forward to this series every year. Great product information that helps me make more educated decisions on how to spend my tackle budget. Thanks!
No stradic on the list?!? The stradic FL is on sale at TW for $140 right now. You're not going to find a better value for the money than that! Love your videos guys.
It's clearly a winner for the price point and anyone who thinks otherwise is biased. Matt talked about it on an Expride. I put it on a 7'med Expride and couldn't have been happier. Yes it's heavy compared to Vandford but it's built like a tank and hasn't felt differently in 3 years.
@@bassinbilliards6279 I actually prefer the extra weight on some of my rods. I think it balances better than a vanford on some rods. I'd rather have a more balanced rod than a tip heavy feather weight. That's my preference.
John from down under. I still use my 2010 certate 2500R which came with the first mag seal. I have used it in finesse freshwater and off the beach for gummy sharks. Has been absolutely " brilliant" and still is. Love Daiwa...
WOW the finesse vs power shimano lineup makes so much sense. Come to think of it, I’m sure they’ve always been doing it. Thinking back now to when the first Stradic Ci4 came out at the same time as a white Stradic (who knows the letters). Definitely what they were going for then too.
I agree with you about the improvements in quality in the low-budget reels. Spinning and baitcasting. Thanks again for the excellent information and for sharing your experiences.
I've grown up a shimano fanboy but the daiwa certate is my favorite spinning reel I've ever owned. Super smooth with flawless drag, I've landed plenty of big reds, snook, and bass on it without a problem.
I have the regal, nasci, fuego,mirabel,legalis and abu García revo 3x. Just started fishing last year and I definitely agree with your assessments guy. Eventually I will graduate to the vanford and stradics.
Super suprised Stradic FL isn’t on here it’s phenomenal! I also own a nasci FC and a shimano sahara Fl and I swear my sahara at 20 dollars cheaper is was smoother and lighter than my nasci… I’m guessing the sahara is one of those super budget finesse spinning reels.
Is there any BRANDS you would either A. Suggest is "ok/decent" or B. "Garbage/don't waste your money" Ugly stick,Zebco, profishiency, okuma, favorite fishing, quantum, abu Garcia, Lews...?
I was waiting to see what you have to say about the Shimano Sustain FJ because I had my eye on those but it didn't make the list. Is the Vanford as good or better since you focused on those? Obviously you're not reviewing every model in each brand. I'm curious about your thoughts. As always- great buyers guide.
Funny I like the shimano spinning and the diawa casting...the shimano drag on their spinning to me is just the best while the daiwa braking system is just alot better for me than the shimanos...i can skip docks all day with my tatulas with little issue with backlash while the shimanos struggle with it...the shimano casting do cast further for me so i love them for my cranking and open water applications...
Nice review. Am I the only one out there still using 70s, 80s and 90s stuff? Over the years, I've bought, through yard sales or aquired through family, 50+ rod and reel combos that I still use today. Most were
My highest end spinning reels are Ultegras, where do they fit in the line up? I have a mixture of different sizes, shallow and deep spools...I use them from creek fishing for trout to a little bit of inshore saltwater fishing (usually rely on my Daiwa BGs for that) and have never had an issue.
Having an Ultegra in my lineup the same size as one of my Miravels, I'd say that it's parallel on the Power side....so a step or two up from the Nasci on that side of the line.
Amazon has the Shimano Miravel 3000hd for $98 , I bought one at $102 I used Microsoft reward points to get $100 in Amazon gift cards, The Miravel cost me$8.48 out of pocket, with tax, and delivered. They also have the Curado 70 for $189, thats a deal.
I'm shocked you guys don't have the Team Lew's Custom Pro Speed Spin Spinning Reel on here just bought one last year and it's hands down the highest quality reel for the price I've come across 👍👍
Just realized as I’m watching the video that I’ve never purchased or used a higher end spinning reel! When it comes to spinning combos, I spend the bulk of my money on the rod because I want it to be as sensitive and lightweight as possible. The most expensive spinning reel I own now is the Shimano Miravel which is a great reel at it’s price point.
That is a common theme with spinning. Typically the better spend is in the rod. But there is a world of difference amongst spinning reels as well. That said, you grabbed the best "bang for the buck" spinning reel around!
I’m not one to grab a spinning setup but since saltwater fishing I’ve fallen in love with the Daiwa reels, I now own a BG, BG MQ, and a SALTIST MQ. The only other reel I’ll throw other than those three are the quantum smoke.
Im highly impressed, like these gentleman I’m rough as hell in my reels (dunked a lot!) and a lot of covering water on foot and usually get tossed in the sand when bait starts exploding. I’ve yet to have one issue out of these reels.
This video deserves 100 likes per person for us Shimano guys simply for the clarification of the head spinning line up. 😂 Thanks for that. Picking up my first “enthusiast” level spinning set up soon and can’t wait.
Another great video guys! You two make such a great point about the drag systems being the main area of concern pertaining to performance, reliability and endurance. Because you do, I think you should consider at least mentioning quickly on each reel if they have the “back reel” switch on them. I’ve been back reeling my entire life because I am ALWAYS connected to the fish that way. As soon as a reels drag kicks in, an angler has just handed ALL control of the fish over to the reel. I would rather lose a fish due to my error than to a drag system. It has also taught me far more about staying connected to any fish on any gear during the fight. You guys are awesome and in all these years of subscribing, I don’t think I have ever made a suggestion. Keep up the great work, we need you both for our ongoing growth and success in this game of angling.
Unfortunately, back reeling is slowly fading away. Tim also loves to back reel and is constantly surprised how many brands are removing the feature all together. It's a bummer! There is absolutely no downside to doing it, and yet almost no one does.
@@tacticalbassin Thanks so much for the reply. Yes, it’s true. I fear it will become a lost art so to speak. It definitely makes me a better fisherman. I’ve been fishing Sadona reels for at least 20 years. At first because I could afford them. Now, just because I love those things. AND, they still have the back reel switch. I’m going to try out the Fuego after seeing your video. It has a back reel switch and is a full ounce lighter than the Sadona. Worth a try. Thanks again for all the work you two put in. I was going to buy some Tactical Eye Surrenders this fall but didn’t see them on sale. I must have missed it somehow. 🫤
I have a Twin Power 2500 FD I use for saltwater and freshwater. I found the two Shimano lines a few years on the Japanese website. I knew I wanted durability for saltwater with strength to fight redfish, then be able to bring it to the lake to wacky rig fish for giant bass.
I am interested in the TP2500FD like yours, compared to SHG it has double the max drag and 5.3 instead of 6 gear ratio. Is that why you chose yours over SHG?
One suggestion if I may, would be informative to specify which models have threaded screw in handles💡 Personally I prefer a rock solid screw in handle.
I have a Diana and two Shimano spinning reels and all three are phenomenal, but I’m going to give it a while before I buy another 13 fishing spinning reel. The Prototype X I bought was not good at all, and it was like $150. It seemed good at first, but a small bur on the bell would catch and break my line. The line wouldn’t always go over to the guide when you’re reeling. I don’t want to crap on the whole company though. I have one of their rods and I love it, and it was only like $80. It’s my main wacky rig rod. I’ll be keeping an eye on the spinning reels, I’ve heard a lot of people saying they are getting better. Great video!
Should have touched base on the BG MQ, Tatula MQ or Balistic. Or Balistic MQ. Bg Mq is unbelievable especially for the price. Best all round reel hands down. Fuego is a finesse reel. Great reel at great price point. All these reels are better or worse for salt applications. That’s a whole other topic with even more choices. Great video guys!
Nice video guy's! I own 2 of the 17' Exsence C3000MHG and absolutely love them. I use them for power finesse. For finesse, I have 7 Vanquish's in the 19' and 23' models and they're also next level, IMO, the finesse KING of the hill. I also own the 19' Stella 1000, the 22' Stella c2000SHG and an old but still smooth as glass 2002 Stella FA 2500. The Vanfords are great reels but come in behind the Vanquish's but the price difference is something to consider. Someone's going to have to pry my Exsence's, Vanquish's and Stella's from my cold, dead hands.🤣
On the 2 different types of spinning reels that Shimano makes, if you want both in one go with the newest Daiwa Exist. It is the ultimate in finesse and has the connectivity and smoothness of the Stella at a fraction of the weight.
Twin Power FD 2500 and 3000 are so similar with 5.3 gear ratio and 9kg max drag. Capacity and handles are different so which do I get or do I go with 2500SHG. Trout to 3 lbs some smallmouth
I like your videos a lot ❤ wold like to se a comparison between the Excence and the Vanquish. Im very curios about yor opinion. I know u fish bass snd here in Sweden we dont have them, but i take inspiration from ur bassfishing into my perch fishing.
I used to only use budget Shimano spinning reels basically as on a set of guest/backup set ups on stream fishing set ups and used upper middle range diawa spinning reels on my personal rods especially bass and ultralight trout. The exsense was definitely the first Shimano that felt amazingly smooth and solid at the same time. I have a few nice okumas, a Pfluger magnesium ultralight, a couple of big worm drive ticas for the beach rod and my big catfish rod. I still feel like diawa has the better value reels in the 100-200 range, okuma in the 35-80, over 200 I try to stay out of but I would say pick up and handle the Shimanos and diawas in your range and see what makes you smile.
great video, I am a Daiwa spinner fan and just love the Fuego's feel and function, I feels so good I have never even wondered what a better reel would be like. A bit curious now...
It's a very solid reel. We don't have tons of time on it yet but all the time spent has been very impressive. It's in that price range with Daiwa where you have tons of choices but I picked it up early this year just to have an opinion and I've been impressed.
@tacticalbassin All of your fans greatly appreciate the time and effort you guys put into all of your videos, but especially these Buyer's Guides! I hope you both have an awesome Thanksgiving with your families! 🦃🍗 [Side note: GO LIONS, AND GO BLUE!!!🏈]
I don't own one, but have only heard good things about the Legalis LT. I think Daiwa makes the best spinning reels under $100 and this is coming from a Shimano guy.
Something that is never mentioned When talking about reel 34:18 's whether bait casters or spinning Is the quality of the bearings in the reels. Not necessarily the quantity of the bearings. This is what helps with the longevity of your reels, The smoothness, And will also influence the price. In a lot of cases it is just a way of competing with the numbers some other real has And does not Is always affect the performance.
Have you ever tried out the Pflueger President? Seems to be around here that is the reel we all buy when we are looking for a "Budget" spinning reel . Wondering if the budget reels that you have in this video are that much nicer.
I have a Stella. It's great, and I'm sure it will last years, but the Daiwa Legalis, Reveros, and Regal are so good I can't justify the price difference. But that Stella is amazing.
def nice explanation on the shimano range. Shimano and daiwa def great and have a range of reel. The only other brand that also lasted for me and does great reels is Abu Garcia!
I’m a fishing traveler. Sometimes I might have to face a heavy cover fishing spot in South East Asia (for snakeheads, black bass, and peacock bass, etc.) and sometimes I might fish a open water (for largemouth bass, sky gazers, barramundi, etc.). And I wonder whether you guys can recommend us to find our suitable rods and reels for us. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it.
I can’t see the vanford for 200 plus. I’ve got plenty over 20 different flavors of reels I can take a songuylong ? And use diawa drag felt and grease them up and put them top bottom of the drag set and the 2500 reel u never know it was a 25$ reel. The drag is super slick enough noise and sings fish on
You guys explain there is a difference in the Shimano line for power vs finesse. I really like the feel of the older Sahara reels in that $70-$80 price range. It's like it takes a little more torque to get it turning, but once it does, it is very smooth. Can I assume that is the "connected" feel you talk about in the power lineup? I have never been able to put my hands on the higher end reels you guys feature, so I have nothing to compare it with. When I pick up a Vanford, I don't care for it much. I ended up going with the Tatula LT line, but that isn't part of the quetion. It (Vanford) is clearly lighter than the Sahara, but it feels quite different. You guys place the Vanford into the finesse lineup. Would you further put the Sahara into the power lineup, albit at a lower price point, and would that explain why they feel so different?
Thinking about pullin the trigger on the shimano sedona i was wonder what bugget rod you guys would pair it with and if it would be more for finness or power fishing thanks in advance
Great Review Video! My favorite gear reviews to watch - not just top end gear, but what you like and why you like them across the cost spectrum. Keep up the great videos 💪💪💪 Where would y’all put the Ballistic MQ in the mix?
No mention of the BG MQ, or any of the other Diawas with the MQ frame. Best all around value and strength. Maybe because it’s sealed for saltwater, but as all around, diverse reels….they can’t be beat.
I used to be a big PENN fan. Now I lean towards Shimano. I’ve tried Daiwa. Love the BG and picked up the Ballistic LT. I’ve had my Ballistics bail snap shut on me multiple times when going to cast. I find it hard to believe it’s user error as I’ve never had any of my other reels including the BG do it to me. I would like to try the MQ line of reels from Daiwa but I’m not a fan that they don’t sell a tool that’s easy to get to service their reel. Plus they don’t have the magnetic oil available that I’m aware of. Only oil is on eBay that’s not authentic and it’s very pricey.
Thanks great vid . Looking for a reel for a new mega bass wind buster . Leaning to a 3000 vanford . Want to see more about the 13 fishing option . One thing people may not be aware of . Shimano has sone world leading gear manufacturing tech . And precision . Look at the common ground of there products . Fishing reels . High end racing Bicycle gear trains
It's a Great reel that will last a lifetime and built like a Tank but it's a little heavy for me. I have 2 Stradic FL's as my heavier reels at less than 1/2 the price and they're great reels also.
Great video! Just subscribed. I can`t make my decision between Shimano Vanford and Daiwa Luvias FC LT both in 2500S size. I`d like to use the reel for some rainbow trout fishing in fast moving rivers. Versatility will be an advantage because I`d like to pair them with Gamakatsu Luxxe Yoihime Hanna S610UL to do some offshore jigging for smaller species. What would be your recommendation? Thank you in advance! P.S. I got Miravel C2000SHG today, just because it felt sooo light in hand, really good reel to have especially considering its price.
I wish you guys explained the difference in use and purpose between the different types of reels while also including the ratio of each you talk about.
The Pfleuger President definitely deserves an honorable mention for the budget category.
The only problem is the line lay. On mine if I drop-shot the braid (15lb. Powerpro) does not lay evenly on the spool. Other than that, I agree, they are fantastic!
just purchased the new one didn't tested it out yet up north.
Love my older presidents, but the quality is garbage now
Agree had a few wind knots They had to go
How are penn reels not on this list or at least some mentioned?
I must be missing because I love my Pfluger Presidents. They handle Erie's smallmouth, 10 lb drums, and steelhead in strong river current just fine. I will come back to this video if I ever have to release one.
Love the budget recognitions. Another budget guy is the guy who knows his stuff(cough: watches all your vids), is an above average fisherman, but doesn't get to go out very much, so he doesn't need a $200 bells and whistles reel. Also, some anglers might prefer a budget reel due to the weight of it to balance the budget rod. It may not make sense to throw a super light $200 reel on a $100 rod due to the weights of each item. Love these vids! One last thing, if you're not in a rush, it really pays to search around and shop the sales. You can easily get mid range stuff Matt and Tim mention for budget prices.
I would really love to see a Pflueger President in your line up of spinning reels for reviews. I believe they are a hidden gem myself.
Hidden gem? It’s probably one of the most popular spinning reels on the market due to it’s wide availability. Wal-Marts carry Presidents across the country.
I just bought the supreme, alittle more than the president but wow what a difference!
I picked up a daiwa regal about a year and a half ago and that reel is insane at 70$. Beyond impressed.
Agreed. The newer Revros is also pretty sweet. Super smooth.
You put the dollar sign on the wrong side bro.
I picked up a fx 19.99 shimano 4 k direct very impressed running 5/8 spinners good drag or good enough Whites. No large stippers yet on it
My favorite overall reel is still my Daiwa Regal X 2500c. The main difference being I got my iteration 23 years ago and it weighs almost 12oz.
The anti-reverse is classic Daiwa instant, all the important internals are metal, and I'd wish anybody luck on trying to flex the frame stem.
I may eventually swap out the old body bushings but they're glorified spacers so it wouldn't do anything but change the feel...something I've gotten quite attuned to.
I swear I bought a 15$ Chinese 8000 size reel around 3 years ago and it's still rolling incredibly smooth and durable to this day. You don't have to pay triple digits for a decent or even great fishing reel nowadays.
For a beginner like myself, this will have to be the most informative video on UA-cam. Wonderful content and really helps understand why there are so many options out there. Thanks!
Ive had the nasci for two years and love it.
Same here. I beat it up big time, fresh and salt, and it still works super hard. Mud, salt, weeds sucked up inside of it while turning are nothing to the Nasci!
Agree
You guys have really taught me a lot. I’m one of those guys who researches everything so I appreciate how you guys do these videos. It helps a guy like me make a better informed purchase. (me and my son have been watching your videos and we subscribed)
Another vote here for the Daiwa Regal. Such a good reel for the money.
I bought a daiwa regal lt 2500 on sale for $39. Definately impressed for that kind of $. Sticker on the shelf said $69 but rang up $39. Not sure if it was a mistake but its nice enough that i may go back and snag another...
I owned regal lt and now im using shimano vanford and still love that regal lt. There's not much difference between expensive and cheap.
@jeffnaval4894 good to hear man. I'm still extremely impressed by the Regal LT. Ended up buying another in the 3000 size. Without a doubt the best $39 reels money can buy...my only concern was durability but so far so good.
Pflueger makes some good reels. The Supreme XT is a great reel for a decent price and they offer lower gear ratios too which is nice.
Yep! Have 2012 and 2014 SupremeXT in 2 size both are great despite of all the beating. Also have President XT in 25 and 30 size. small one is almost the same as old supremeXT, but bigger have some weird feeling when reeling. Maybe it's just because it's on heavier rod with heavier line, but still. I think, right now, Pflueger is the best you can get under 100$.
Look at JDM - both my Miravels are 5:1 ratios, purchased from Digitaka. And yes Pfluegers are good reels - I have a Supreme in my line-up.
Very informative. Always wondere why there were so many like reels in the shimano lineup. Thanks for educating us.
Bought a Miravel last year......paired it with a 7'0 ft slx rod and it is 🧈 smooth.....
I cannot explain how confused I was as to why the miravel and the nasci felt so different.this explains so much! Thank you guys!
I look forward to this series every year. Great product information that helps me make more educated decisions on how to spend my tackle budget. Thanks!
We're happy to help!
No stradic on the list?!? The stradic FL is on sale at TW for $140 right now. You're not going to find a better value for the money than that! Love your videos guys.
They didn't list the new Diawa MQ LT from this year, too. Makes me wonder if they just haven't had enough time to properly assess to their standards.
@@tylerduncan2842I’ve read about some Tatula MQ LT and Ballistic MQ LT issues. So that might be why.
love my stradics and ci4/ vanfords !
It's clearly a winner for the price point and anyone who thinks otherwise is biased. Matt talked about it on an Expride. I put it on a 7'med Expride and couldn't have been happier. Yes it's heavy compared to Vandford but it's built like a tank and hasn't felt differently in 3 years.
@@bassinbilliards6279 I actually prefer the extra weight on some of my rods. I think it balances better than a vanford on some rods. I'd rather have a more balanced rod than a tip heavy feather weight. That's my preference.
John from down under. I still use my 2010 certate 2500R which came with the first mag seal. I have used it in finesse freshwater and off the beach for gummy sharks. Has been absolutely " brilliant" and still is. Love Daiwa...
I’ve had a miravel on a slx rod fight largemouths one week and trout, reds, and even a stingray the next. But the Stradic CI4 is my baby.
The 23 Shimano Vanquish with a Nrx+852s is heaven.
WOW the finesse vs power shimano lineup makes so much sense. Come to think of it, I’m sure they’ve always been doing it. Thinking back now to when the first Stradic Ci4 came out at the same time as a white Stradic (who knows the letters). Definitely what they were going for then too.
The Shimano Nexave is a banger. Your review is spot on.
After all these years and expensive baitcasters, I find myself wanting a fancy midlight spinning set up. Thanks for the info
Excense is the best reel they talked about, I own 2 of them and a Stella. I like the Excenses way more
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@@lexm0 I have 2 of the 17' Exsence c3000MHG and I've got to say it's my favorite spinning reel ever.
Been watching you for a few years from when I just started to now an very experienced angler love the videos
I agree with you about the improvements in quality in the low-budget reels. Spinning and baitcasting. Thanks again for the excellent information and for sharing your experiences.
Miravels are definitely for finesse ...I've got two of them and they are superb for those of us on limited budgets.
I just got an nrx syr mag medium
And im debating between stradic vanford or miravel
I've grown up a shimano fanboy but the daiwa certate is my favorite spinning reel I've ever owned. Super smooth with flawless drag, I've landed plenty of big reds, snook, and bass on it without a problem.
Matt, Tim, what category would Shinamo Stradic fall; power or finesse?
I have the regal, nasci, fuego,mirabel,legalis and abu García revo 3x. Just started fishing last year and I definitely agree with your assessments guy. Eventually I will graduate to the vanford and stradics.
Super suprised Stradic FL isn’t on here it’s phenomenal! I also own a nasci FC and a shimano sahara Fl and I swear my sahara at 20 dollars cheaper is was smoother and lighter than my nasci… I’m guessing the sahara is one of those super budget finesse spinning reels.
I still have the old Stradics till '6000', with the double handle and still use and like them...
Is there any BRANDS you would either A. Suggest is "ok/decent" or B. "Garbage/don't waste your money" Ugly stick,Zebco, profishiency, okuma, favorite fishing, quantum, abu Garcia, Lews...?
the best is shimano, diawa is okay penn is last
Bought a Johnny Morris Platinum Signature. I let you know how it works sometime this spring. 😊
Daiwa crossfire good choice
Daiwa Strikeforce great reel
Pflueger President 30 35 super nice
It's just like y'all have explained to me between the Metanium and Aldebaren MGL's
I was waiting to see what you have to say about the Shimano Sustain FJ because I had my eye on those but it didn't make the list. Is the Vanford as good or better since you focused on those? Obviously you're not reviewing every model in each brand. I'm curious about your thoughts.
As always- great buyers guide.
I’m wondering the same… seems like a great reel on paper but no one talks about it
Surprised you didn’t include the Daiwa Ballistic! Built like a tank, excellent drag, great sensitivity transfer, perfect for giant Michigan smallies
Funny I like the shimano spinning and the diawa casting...the shimano drag on their spinning to me is just the best while the daiwa braking system is just alot better for me than the shimanos...i can skip docks all day with my tatulas with little issue with backlash while the shimanos struggle with it...the shimano casting do cast further for me so i love them for my cranking and open water applications...
Nice review. Am I the only one out there still using 70s, 80s and 90s stuff? Over the years, I've bought, through yard sales or aquired through family, 50+ rod and reel combos that I still use today. Most were
Yep your probably one of the few 😟
My favorite is the 2500 vanford.
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My highest end spinning reels are Ultegras, where do they fit in the line up? I have a mixture of different sizes, shallow and deep spools...I use them from creek fishing for trout to a little bit of inshore saltwater fishing (usually rely on my Daiwa BGs for that) and have never had an issue.
Having an Ultegra in my lineup the same size as one of my Miravels, I'd say that it's parallel on the Power side....so a step or two up from the Nasci on that side of the line.
@@MNFisher that's what I thought, I know they took a lot of the tech from the twin power...I just don't have twin power money😂 thx for the reply.
Amazon has the Shimano Miravel 3000hd for $98 , I bought one at $102 I used Microsoft reward points to get $100 in Amazon gift cards, The Miravel cost me$8.48 out of pocket, with tax, and delivered. They also have the Curado 70 for $189, thats a deal.
I'm shocked you guys don't have the Team Lew's Custom Pro Speed Spin Spinning Reel on here just bought one last year and it's hands down the highest quality reel for the price I've come across 👍👍
Just realized as I’m watching the video that I’ve never purchased or used a higher end spinning reel! When it comes to spinning combos, I spend the bulk of my money on the rod because I want it to be as sensitive and lightweight as possible. The most expensive spinning reel I own now is the Shimano Miravel which is a great reel at it’s price point.
That is a common theme with spinning. Typically the better spend is in the rod. But there is a world of difference amongst spinning reels as well. That said, you grabbed the best "bang for the buck" spinning reel around!
Spinning reel is more important than casting though, since you are relying on the drag over not really on a baitcaster
Which side would the Ultegra fall in? I have one of them on one of my TW wish lists
Power bro, for sure.
The power side, Metal frame!
Don’t forget the Vanquish! Vanquish should be after Essence or before. Depending on personal preferences .
Intrigued to try out the 13 fishing ascent comp, coming from a person who uses diawa and Shimano spinning reels.
I’m not one to grab a spinning setup but since saltwater fishing I’ve fallen in love with the Daiwa reels, I now own a BG, BG MQ, and a SALTIST MQ. The only other reel I’ll throw other than those three are the quantum smoke.
Those reels are awesome. I'm on a pretty tight budget and I own a good line of the BGs and I've never had a single issue with any of them.
Im highly impressed, like these gentleman I’m rough as hell in my reels (dunked a lot!) and a lot of covering water on foot and usually get tossed in the sand when bait starts exploding. I’ve yet to have one issue out of these reels.
@@us_patriot_31b just keep em clean and they'll last a long time.
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This video deserves 100 likes per person for us Shimano guys simply for the clarification of the head spinning line up. 😂 Thanks for that.
Picking up my first “enthusiast” level spinning set up soon and can’t wait.
Another great video guys! You two make such a great point about the drag systems being the main area of concern pertaining to performance, reliability and endurance. Because you do, I think you should consider at least mentioning quickly on each reel if they have the “back reel” switch on them. I’ve been back reeling my entire life because I am ALWAYS connected to the fish that way. As soon as a reels drag kicks in, an angler has just handed ALL control of the fish over to the reel. I would rather lose a fish due to my error than to a drag system. It has also taught me far more about staying connected to any fish on any gear during the fight.
You guys are awesome and in all these years of subscribing, I don’t think I have ever made a suggestion. Keep up the great work, we need you both for our ongoing growth and success in this game of angling.
Unfortunately, back reeling is slowly fading away. Tim also loves to back reel and is constantly surprised how many brands are removing the feature all together. It's a bummer! There is absolutely no downside to doing it, and yet almost no one does.
@@tacticalbassin Thanks so much for the reply. Yes, it’s true. I fear it will become a lost art so to speak. It definitely makes me a better fisherman. I’ve been fishing Sadona reels for at least 20 years. At first because I could afford them. Now, just because I love those things. AND, they still have the back reel switch. I’m going to try out the Fuego after seeing your video. It has a back reel switch and is a full ounce lighter than the Sadona. Worth a try. Thanks again for all the work you two put in. I was going to buy some Tactical Eye Surrenders this fall but didn’t see them on sale. I must have missed it somehow. 🫤
I have a Twin Power 2500 FD I use for saltwater and freshwater. I found the two Shimano lines a few years on the Japanese website. I knew I wanted durability for saltwater with strength to fight redfish, then be able to bring it to the lake to wacky rig fish for giant bass.
That is an INCREDIBLE reel, great choice!
I am interested in the TP2500FD like yours, compared to SHG it has double the max drag and 5.3 instead of 6 gear ratio. Is that why you chose yours over SHG?
One suggestion if I may, would be informative to specify which models have threaded screw in handles💡
Personally I prefer a rock solid screw in handle.
I have a Diana and two Shimano spinning reels and all three are phenomenal, but I’m going to give it a while before I buy another 13 fishing spinning reel. The Prototype X I bought was not good at all, and it was like $150. It seemed good at first, but a small bur on the bell would catch and break my line. The line wouldn’t always go over to the guide when you’re reeling. I don’t want to crap on the whole company though. I have one of their rods and I love it, and it was only like $80. It’s my main wacky rig rod. I’ll be keeping an eye on the spinning reels, I’ve heard a lot of people saying they are getting better.
Great video!
Should have touched base on the BG MQ, Tatula MQ or Balistic. Or Balistic MQ. Bg Mq is unbelievable especially for the price. Best all round reel hands down. Fuego is a finesse reel. Great reel at great price point. All these reels are better or worse for salt applications. That’s a whole other topic with even more choices. Great video guys!
Nice video guy's! I own 2 of the 17' Exsence C3000MHG and absolutely love them. I use them for power finesse. For finesse, I have 7 Vanquish's in the 19' and 23' models and they're also next level, IMO, the finesse KING of the hill. I also own the 19' Stella 1000, the 22' Stella c2000SHG and an old but still smooth as glass 2002 Stella FA 2500. The Vanfords are great reels but come in behind the Vanquish's but the price difference is something to consider. Someone's going to have to pry my Exsence's, Vanquish's and Stella's from my cold, dead hands.🤣
On the 2 different types of spinning reels that Shimano makes, if you want both in one go with the newest Daiwa Exist. It is the ultimate in finesse and has the connectivity and smoothness of the Stella at a fraction of the weight.
Twin Power FD 2500 and 3000 are so similar with 5.3 gear ratio and 9kg max drag. Capacity and handles are different so which do I get or do I go with 2500SHG. Trout to 3 lbs some smallmouth
I fish my Diawa Revros side by side with my Shimano Stradics. The Revros is impressive for the $44 I paid for them.
They're very impressive! We've never had a hiccup out of one.
I’ve had a few diawa s. Still do. I like the old silver salt 4-6 k ish Works for catfish
I like your videos a lot ❤ wold like to se a comparison between the Excence and the Vanquish. Im very curios about yor opinion. I know u fish bass snd here in Sweden we dont have them, but i take inspiration from ur bassfishing into my perch fishing.
I used to only use budget Shimano spinning reels basically as on a set of guest/backup set ups on stream fishing set ups and used upper middle range diawa spinning reels on my personal rods especially bass and ultralight trout. The exsense was definitely the first Shimano that felt amazingly smooth and solid at the same time. I have a few nice okumas, a Pfluger magnesium ultralight, a couple of big worm drive ticas for the beach rod and my big catfish rod. I still feel like diawa has the better value reels in the 100-200 range, okuma in the 35-80, over 200 I try to stay out of but I would say pick up and handle the Shimanos and diawas in your range and see what makes you smile.
What line is the Shimano ultegra? Finesse I assume? It would be a step up from miravel but a step down from vanford correct? Thanks
great video, I am a Daiwa spinner fan and just love the Fuego's feel and function, I feels so good I have never even wondered what a better reel would be like. A bit curious now...
Thx Matt and Tim for the videos! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family 😁
Happy Thanksgiving!!
Matt/Tim, how often do you conducted maintenance on your reels and how necessary is it?
I've seen UA-cam reviews applauding the Daiwa Legalis LT Spinning Reel. It's not on your list. What do you guys think of the Legalis LT???
It's a very solid reel. We don't have tons of time on it yet but all the time spent has been very impressive. It's in that price range with Daiwa where you have tons of choices but I picked it up early this year just to have an opinion and I've been impressed.
@tacticalbassin All of your fans greatly appreciate the time and effort you guys put into all of your videos, but especially these Buyer's Guides! I hope you both have an awesome Thanksgiving with your families! 🦃🍗
[Side note: GO LIONS, AND GO BLUE!!!🏈]
I don't own one, but have only heard good things about the Legalis LT. I think Daiwa makes the best spinning reels under $100 and this is coming from a Shimano guy.
What size braid do you recommend for 8lb and less for the leader knot to stay strong
Something that is never mentioned When talking about reel 34:18 's whether bait casters or spinning Is the quality of the bearings in the reels. Not necessarily the quantity of the bearings. This is what helps with the longevity of your reels, The smoothness, And will also influence the price. In a lot of cases it is just a way of competing with the numbers some other real has And does not Is always affect the performance.
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Where does the Shimano Sustain fall on the power/finesse spectrum?
Right in the middle
What about shimano mastiff floro? It was nano pores so that tying to braid has a stronger grip
NanoArmor ridges...
Can expect to catch a 6-8 lbs trout now and then where I live. I’ve had good luck with the shamano ultegra running 5 lbs sunline flouro
Good video as always. Can’t wait for the combo video!!! Happy thanksgiving guys!
Have you ever tried out the Pflueger President? Seems to be around here that is the reel we all buy when we are looking for a "Budget" spinning reel . Wondering if the budget reels that you have in this video are that much nicer.
I have a Stella. It's great, and I'm sure it will last years, but the Daiwa Legalis, Reveros, and Regal are so good I can't justify the price difference. But that Stella is amazing.
Exactly
Good morning TB! Headed to the lake now listening to this !!!!
Awesome!! Good luck today!
def nice explanation on the shimano range. Shimano and daiwa def great and have a range of reel. The only other brand that also lasted for me and does great reels is Abu Garcia!
Have you guys tried the lews custom lite pro?
I’m a fishing traveler. Sometimes I might have to face a heavy cover fishing spot in South East Asia (for snakeheads, black bass, and peacock bass, etc.) and sometimes I might fish a open water (for largemouth bass, sky gazers, barramundi, etc.). And I wonder whether you guys can recommend us to find our suitable rods and reels for us. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it.
And spot tails too!
Anyone have the Sahara FI that knows whether it goes in the finesse or power category? Looking at the Nasci or Miravel but not sure which to order
I would put all three in the power category. They're all metal frame reels. It keeps the tolerance's better. Just heavier.
Curious if you guys have used any Kast King reels? Seems they have came a long way in technology at a good price!
Have you guys ever checked out the daiwa Procyon? I love it! That and my vanford are my two favorite spinning reels!
I can’t see the vanford for 200 plus. I’ve got plenty over 20 different flavors of reels I can take a songuylong ? And use diawa drag felt and grease them up and put them top bottom of the drag set and the 2500 reel u never know it was a 25$ reel. The drag is super slick enough noise and sings fish on
You guys explain there is a difference in the Shimano line for power vs finesse. I really like the feel of the older Sahara reels in that $70-$80 price range. It's like it takes a little more torque to get it turning, but once it does, it is very smooth. Can I assume that is the "connected" feel you talk about in the power lineup? I have never been able to put my hands on the higher end reels you guys feature, so I have nothing to compare it with. When I pick up a Vanford, I don't care for it much. I ended up going with the Tatula LT line, but that isn't part of the quetion. It (Vanford) is clearly lighter than the Sahara, but it feels quite different. You guys place the Vanford into the finesse lineup. Would you further put the Sahara into the power lineup, albit at a lower price point, and would that explain why they feel so different?
Thinking about pullin the trigger on the shimano sedona i was wonder what bugget rod you guys would pair it with and if it would be more for finness or power fishing thanks in advance
Plfeuger president is by far one of the best budget spinning reals. For a higher cost. The stratic is THE epitome of nicest reals on the market.
You forgot the poormans stradic aka Ultegra 😂 love mine even though I have more expensive Shimanos
Great Review Video! My favorite gear reviews to watch - not just top end gear, but what you like and why you like them across the cost spectrum. Keep up the great videos 💪💪💪
Where would y’all put the Ballistic MQ in the mix?
No mention of the BG MQ, or any of the other Diawas with the MQ frame. Best all around value and strength. Maybe because it’s sealed for saltwater, but as all around, diverse reels….they can’t be beat.
do you guys ever use a brighter color braid if so what kind? what is the best braid for long casting?
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Any idea what’s the best catfish spinning reels?
Have you tried the Sustain FJ if so what your thoughts on it? Is it a big step up from the stradic.
It's a 1/2 oz. lighter and a couple more bearings. Big step up? NO
I used to be a big PENN fan. Now I lean towards Shimano. I’ve tried Daiwa. Love the BG and picked up the Ballistic LT. I’ve had my Ballistics bail snap shut on me multiple times when going to cast. I find it hard to believe it’s user error as I’ve never had any of my other reels including the BG do it to me. I would like to try the MQ line of reels from Daiwa but I’m not a fan that they don’t sell a tool that’s easy to get to service their reel. Plus they don’t have the magnetic oil available that I’m aware of. Only oil is on eBay that’s not authentic and it’s very pricey.
Are Shimano products on sale for the black Friday sale?
Thanks great vid . Looking for a reel for a new mega bass wind buster . Leaning to a 3000 vanford . Want to see more about the 13 fishing option . One thing people may not be aware of . Shimano has sone world leading gear manufacturing tech . And precision . Look at the common ground of there products . Fishing reels . High end racing Bicycle gear trains
Has anyone tried the 2020 twin power core solid? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
It's a Great reel that will last a lifetime and built like a Tank but it's a little heavy for me. I have 2 Stradic FL's as my heavier reels at less than 1/2 the price and they're great reels also.
Great video! Just subscribed.
I can`t make my decision between Shimano Vanford and Daiwa Luvias FC LT both in 2500S size. I`d like to use the reel for some rainbow trout fishing in fast moving rivers. Versatility will be an advantage because I`d like to pair them with Gamakatsu Luxxe Yoihime Hanna S610UL to do some offshore jigging for smaller species.
What would be your recommendation?
Thank you in advance!
P.S. I got Miravel C2000SHG today, just because it felt sooo light in hand, really good reel to have especially considering its price.
What do you think about picifun carbon x
Im excited to try the Fuego for salt with that budget magseal!
Penn spinfisher vi for 100$. Is spot on for inshore 3500 I have w 15 lb test running heavy swim baits 1-1.5 oz. Drags good enough
I wish you guys explained the difference in use and purpose between the different types of reels while also including the ratio of each you talk about.
What’s the best one for farthest casting in a 3000?
Which should i get Daiwa revros 4000 or shimano nexave 2500, i go for Bass, Catfish and love pan fishing
Shimano
My all time fav reel is the okuma ceymar