I find it interesting that Arlene, who is now clearly driven by revenge, was described by Gustang as someone who got along with everyone (including Gustang). It’s clear that she isn’t that person anymore because of everything that happened. But it does seem like she was sort of the person that brought them all together and brought the people like Gustang out of their shell. Sort of like how Bam brought all of his companions together.
It zahard who reunite his team bam is often compared to zahard arlen was more like the cheerful girl who motivates everyone kinda like Rachel but in reality hide a sadistic personality like Rachel
@Sebrel _ß no I think arlen want bam to go inside the tower and become a monster that will achieve her revenge she wants bam to destroy everything on the tower destroy zahard destroy the ten great family heads bring chaos into the tower and destroy it's because the tower had ruined her life
@@tomula2718 what do we actually know about arlen nothing except the fact she was zahard first love, she betrayed zahard and start a war on him, her child was killed by zahard,she gone insane, she was obsessed with the stars. don't you see siu just showed us just a little bit of her nothing has been completely revealed about her she is full of mystery
@Sebrel _ß I actually think Rachel might have done that maliciously to be fair, because Rachel clearly lived above him in a better place and seemed to be the only person that knew he was there. What if Rachel, who was tasked with taking care of him, maliciously kept him down there in the hopes of stopping him from being the “hero”. I do think Arlene thinks of him as already being dead though and might not even see him as being her son anymore.
Theory 1. FUG means “forgiven under grace” 2. Arlene is the founder of FUG refusing to marry Jahad. 3. Before dying Arlene made a deal with the outside tower God that Bam will defeat Jahad.
An interesting thing about the name is also that Viole comes from the Korean word for star. Rachel's obsessions with the stars originated from Arlene, and Arlene even wrote in her diary about "vast sky and shining stars which are so much like my own home". Perhaps the moment her child died and was resurrected, the 'star' became a the 'night'.
yes I’ve been wanting an Arlene grace video since she is one of the most mysterious characters in the story I’m almost one hundred percent certain that she’ll be a villain down the line as with the information we have so far it adds up in my opinion with some of the info we got from the garam story about her going crazy after the death while I believe that the story doesn’t completely add up as I feel she killed V from anger since he doesn’t seem like a person who would kill him self so I’ll be interested to see if this turns out to be the case we also need more info on her ties to Rachel
On fug's defense, not all member of fug knew that planned. T'was orchestrated by karaka alone. That's why when Jinsung ha knew what he did, he gone mad. And note that some of the fug members doesn't approve of baam yet. They know the prophecy but they didn't who it is that's why they're still doubting baam.
I’m excited to see her in the future, if she appears at all and how her actions will impact the rest of tog. I want to know what kind of relation she has to Rachel since that part is really mysterious
one of the many things i love about tower of God's lore and its way of explaining the lore to is is that, every answer we get is followed up with 10 questions, and even those answers are sometimes not 100% the truth with leads to even more questions. ive been also thinking, about how well tog is structured, think about it, it was designed in a way that sets up soo many plot lines and hundreds and hundreds of chapters worth of content, like the 10 families and jahard is one thing, and then there is the interesting past to explore, and we are not even close to dealing fully with these guys,but better yet, we even have a full mysteries about what's beyond the known tower level, and its sets up soo much stuff for the future, man, just thinking about it is so epic.
Ikr I love how much potential exploring there is!! Now all we need is for SIU to take care of himself, so that we can witness this story unfold fully! Please SIU we need to see the epic end (ʘᴗʘ✿)
Very interesting! Arlene being a sorcerer using spells might explain why Baam is able to break any spell. I find myself agreeing totally with the names story, it fits perfectly.
Arlene is such an intriguing character. It sounds like she was a really nice person who assisted others with her spells? It's tragic what happened to her and V.
What I don’t get is why Arlene left Bam in a cave all by himself for goodness knows how long. Or are all the original irregulars just bad terrible parents.
Nonsense theory : (it's a com I put higher) I think the resurrection of Bam was not free so Arlene maybe exchange something like her own life to the God of the Outside, it would explain why she didn't enters the tower and send Rachel to raise him. Also maybe Phantaminum was one of Jahad's acquaintance in the outside and heard about it so he went to the tower to show this to Jahad and also show to him his future maybe that's why he didn't kill him when he was way stronger. Phantaminum do not want to interfere with the affairs of the God of the Outside, that's why he didn't kill Yuri. So this my noob theory 😂👍
To be fair, Arlen was already far from a sane and reasonable person to begin with by the time she exited the Tower, although a reason why she might've left Bam alone was because she may have died shortly after exiting since Shinsoo doesn't exist outside the Tower, or maybe she had to sacrifice herself for this prophecy.
@@Anzeer1stclass-A1ST Hm, even though nothing is confirmed yet I feel like that's not true since the wording was 'awaken' or 'ressurected' rather than 'possessed' and rebirth doesn't necessarily mean you lose your mind or who you could've been if you had lived longer since it's akin to a second chance under the same circumstance
I think V was also hurt to lose his child and seeing his wife so depressed so just like Arlene tried to kill herself, he did the same and succeed. He probably tried to cheer Arlene up but when you lose a child almost nothing work/
My guess is the exit out of the Tower is hidden with some kind of spell and that’s why Arlene was the only one able to find it… think about it, The only thing that differentiated Arlene from all the others is her ability to use high level spells. I assume she somehow used this magic to find the exit and take Baam out of the Tower 🤷🏼♂️ 🤔
Gustang also knows the way out of the tower , that's how Eurasia Enne Zahard was able to go out of the tower and find Arlene's pocket there and discover the truth through her diary inside her pocket. I wonder what is the way out of the tower and how Gustang came to discover it and how Arlene came to discover it earlier.
She seems to be able to do spells from outside the Tower. And I had a discussion with someone about spells and how they affect people. I said that it was thanks to Arlene that Baam was able to resist spells and destroy them with ease. It’s like an hereditary skill, but the other person said that every single Irregular was immune to spells. Which… doesn’t make sense, cause then it would be common to the family leaders, and Jahad, and Urek, and Arlene wouldn’t have been that special. So maybe that is another skill of Baam and he can learn how to use them later on!
I always thought baam is in a spell way more powerful than any other spells, and that's why he can break them. But he gained that power in midst of season 2. so it's probably the thorn
@@sandromaspindzelashvili5767 we don’t know if he gained it in season 2, or if there simply wasn’t any way to show it before. I believe it’s more thanks to Arlene
@Sebrel _ß Yeah, I think it has more to do with Inheritance than with the Thorn. And maybe Arlene keeping his body dead in a suspended state also helped boost spell resistance
I Think its also interesting that arlene is a sorceres maybe even the strongest because she was one of the 13 and that bam is i think 100% immun against spells. I dont Think that that is a coincidenc
I think Arlene's true importance/power has yet to be disclosed in the story. There must be something about her to make people build gigantic statues of her, make Jahad KNEEL and ask to marry her, to make Enryu cause chaos and retribution and kill an administrator.
Exactly these things about Arlene make her much more mysterious and important than any other character,what happened with the outside God and how she knew enryu she's just an even bigger deal than anyone rn
Also, remember that "V" is just a nickname that Arlene gave to V which means that it isn't his real name so what if his real name is Viole or something close to that since Mirchea is like V's second in command so he might gave Bam the name of his father
"TLDR; Arlene had a bunch of simps." 🤣 I also suspect that many parts of Arlene's story on her pocket might have been lies or half-truths. For example, she claimed that Jahad was going around the tower wiping out all traces of her existence. Yet like you pointed out, he left the Hand of Arlene alone despite it being a well-known spot. If you remember that arc, it was actually FUG that destroyed the Hand of Arlene. Why would they do that if Arlene is their icon? Plus in the words of Hwaryun, FUG specifically destroyed the Hand of Arlene and killed Khun to make Jahad + the 10 Great Families angry. That sounds sus to me.
Maybe Zahard and the ten families are being set up by Arlene and the people who support her. Another thing that doesn't add up is Zahard being greedy. If he really was power hungry, wouldn't he be desperate to reach the top and become a god and get everything he wants yet he settles for being a mere king and makes excuses on why he hasn't conquered the remaining floors. Zahard seems to be pretty desperate to not let anyone, including himself, to reach the top. Maybe he found out what's at the top and is very adamant on making sure no one reaches it ever since. I feel like Zahard, in a way, has good intentions.
@@aperson2697 I agree! Plus when Arlene and V started the war in order to continue climbing the tower, it was stated that the other 10 great families all sided with Jahad. Considering that we know Eduan vehemently supports V and would've chosen him as the king over Jahad while Gustang supports Arlene and is plotting against Jahad, it's fishy that they'd all take Jahad's side unless there was a really good reason. Maybe Arlene and V were the ones in the wrong for wanting to continue climbing.
@@aperson2697 question - why is everyone SO ready to believe Jahad is a "good" guy? obviously good and evil is not clear cut especially in tog, but you know what i mean. i dont get it. im team arlene ... there is nothing wrong with wanting to simply further climb the tower. jahad wanted to rule over others. sure it could be something different. but why assume it....
@@millardfilmore1403 because looking through everything the story has given as so far, the more he seems more nuanced than just an evil greedy tyrant. Like what I said, his actions contradict what some people say to him. It seems he has more reasoning. Like if he wanted more power like the greedy king he is, he should've kept climbing and become a god and rule an even bigger place, but he settles as a mere king who even went inactive for a long time. There seems to be nothing wrong with continuing to climb the tower, or is there? We don't know for sure. And considering what I typed above, I highly suspect Jahad has a deeper reason why he doesn't want to climb. I have more reasoning than just this alone but it's a lot. I've made comments about my theories in other videos and maybe this comment section. But they're long af and I don't feel like typing them rn.
According to the blogs it is implied that Gustang does know how to exit the tower but he is a horder of information and he does not share that information with anyone. Even Urek when he went to Gustand for info. Gustang only spoke in riddles and barely gave him any actual info on leaving the tower.
My theory is that he helped Arlene finding the exit. Why? For two reasons. Gustang calls Bam 'the savior Arlene spoke of'. The prophecy that painted Bam as some sort of messiah who'll slit the King's throat was written by Arlene after his death, meaning that Gustang most likely had contact with Arlene between the incident and her leaving the Tower. Furthermore, we know Gustang was quite fond of Arlene, even to the point where it might even influence his current resentment at the Jahad empire. Whatever the true story is that Garam didn't tell Bam, Gustang probably knows it all. That's why he also said, "I won't talk about your father, he's the worst person I've known". Plus the things Gustang said about going beyond the 134th floor and the true prince of Jahad? Possible that it is also knowledge from Arlene, after all, she wanted to continue climbing.
Idk where I got this but for some reason I was certain that Arlene wouldn’t accept Baam as her son because he was resurrected. I also think Rachel was given the role to play his mom/sister by Arlene. Rachel was probably kept as a house maid where she wasn’t allowed to leave the estate and she accidentally went into the tower with Baam. The tower was probably a safer bet than to escape Arlene. Her calling Headon a fairy was probably a bed time story told to her by either Arlene or her actual mother who was also probably a maid. She also probably believed the tower to be a safer bet because of the stories she was told. But yeah, because Arlene saw Baam as a monster that would fulfill her desires, Arlene probably gave the motherly role to Rachel. Another thing of note is how fast Rachel is climbing the towers, maybe not with her own physical power but there’s something to be said that she’s still made it this far this fast.
Arlene also went insane and is thirsty for revenge so I feel like she willingly sold her son off to the prophecy so she can get revenge on Zahard. She and V also decided to have a child in the middle of a freaking war after they lost, causing the child to inevitably get involved. I feel like Arlene and V has been planning to use their child to help them because they lost. Rachel was also holding a knife and some kind of square red object when she first entered Bam's cave. My theory is, she was planning to enter that time but coincidentally found Bam. A lonely boy who knows nothing and has nothing, a blank slate she could easily take advantage of. Then ended up using him as a key to enter the tower and steal his spot. And I feel like when Rachel as a child was reading the book about a legend that she mentioned a couple of times, she dreamed to be the heroine in it that will save everyone.
V and Arlene lost against the other 11… i mean, for them to even stand a chance meant they were very powerful. Even Khun said that V must’ve been amongst the most powerful of the group, with him having the strongest… shinsu tensity? Forgot what it was
It was the Shinsu's Tension, also this plus High level spell can't win against : Jahad the most polyvalent of all of them, Arie Hon's sword, Ari Han needles, Khun Edahn spears, ice and thunder, Yeon Hana with her primordial flames, Ha Yurin with her martials arts and physical abilities, Eurasia the best wavecontroller, Gustang IQ and tactics, Bloodmadder defense and and eye of the god of TuPerie plus Lo Po Bia's pets.
@@karaka2253 Tension! Thanks! And dunno, we haven’t seen the level of spells that Arlene could make. Maybe she stood a chance against some of them. It would be awesome to see that level. But Bam should have a high Tension, higher than Jahad at least, and a capacity to use spells. Plus, all the other abilities he already has with Shinsu
@@manueldelgado5336 In fact yes but maybe cuz he is a reincarnation he don't inherited his parents genes so he is just monster who can copy and devours anything. I wants him to be special and unique not only being capable of copying.
I have a theory that enryu and V are the same guy, he could have been resurrected if the outside God (or phantaminum) wanted so. Enryu knows weirdly too much about V and Arlene and the family heads never saw enryu so there is no conformation of his identity
Enryu being the resurrection of V could makes sense cuz the Redhair guy was very upset about the worship of Jahad in the 43th floor, her favourite floor.
But I didn't think The God of the Outside and Phantaminum are the same entity. SIU said himself that Enryu and Phantaminum never meet each other so he can't be the uber driver of someone he doesn't know.
@@karaka2253 yeah I also don't think phantaminum and god are the same guy but phantaminum doesn't need to meet enryu to guide his actions, remember he is an axis he decides whatever happens in the tower
Dude. I love the idea that Rachel was a maid or something to Arlene before being put in charge of Bam. Totally missed that detail about folding clothes. Maybe she did it out of duty to Arlene or something but slowly became jealous of Bam's Destiny so wanted to take it for herself?
I would also like to add that Arlene & V were the ones that started the war against Jahad. The age of genesis was also their fault. So, there's a distinct line that follows
I never noticed this until someone pointed it out to me, but V is not once referred to as Baam's father. With the exclusion of Data Eduan, which can be written off as him having heard it from Data Hansung, who as a regular could've been fed propaganda from FUG. But honestly I find it really interesting, especially considering the wording of Garam's telling of Arlene to Baam went out of its way to prevent the mention of V as his father. I'm not entirely sure whether this is intentional or not, but it makes for an interesting situation considering most people consider it canon that V is the father of Baam, and I for one believe this, but it's never outright mentioned.
Points to be noted 1-akryung has golden brown eyes if the illustration was correct then it clearly hints to something 2- i think arlene was the one who left bam in cave because who else will know jahaads symbol and the cross in the cave represents to thorn probably because the symbol has four sides so is the thorn is divided in four parts so when bam collects all fragments it might form a similar shape. These symbols in cave were left as a last message for bam by arlene.
King Jahad loved her. I think the prettiest girl in that tower. Also, she's very mysterious. Hmmmm I'm very curious about it. And let's not forget that very few secrets have been revealed about her.
I have a theory about how this arc will end. I think that bam is too strong, not for the story but for the others regulars. If he activate all of his power I am sure he is at an advance ranker level. But at this point all his friends are useless even with Kun flame and rak’s new spear; endorosi is the strongest of bams friends and still she is very weak. The story definitely needs a 100+ years time skip, but if that happen bam will be at urek level or something close. What I think is that bam will be trap at the supendium were junsun ha is, the story said in the supendium time stop or something like that . And after the 200 years later FUG will try to rescue bam. (maybe yuri will ask urek to save bam).Most of bams team will be much stronger than before and some even be rankers. Is a weird theory but I thinks that the story needs a time skip like this.
This is one of the first videos i have recently watched from you i think in years (just really busy). But I’m in love with your content and give you double bonus points for the Persona 5 music. You’re content is in incredible!
Pretty confident that Mirchea Luslec isn't actually related to Arlene Grace but took the Grace as an sort of honor like carrying the name grace onwards. "Don't you forget the name Grace" type of thing.
I always thought spells where an ability that came from outside the tower, from a far gone time. Especially since bam (and I'd assume other irregulars) has some kind of ability to overpower/nullify spells. Most spells or spell casters seem to be from the outside/decedents from people from the outside (especially from the head families) that's why a lot of the spell users are ancient or irregulars from outside. In some cases it's passed on and taught to others I think Whites book/soul powers come from spells/rituals, and the power protecting the wall in chapter 3 is a spell that bam needed to break
I have a theory. I believe arlene had or has( why i use has is because i believe she is still in tower) a queen contract. Why? Because jahaad made the contract with the administrator to make both of them immortal in age and body so nobody could kill them in tower. Whats the proof? Proof is her unable to commit suicide. If you go back in chapters somewhere on 21st floor chapter there is a convo between wangnan and hwaryun that explains jahaad has kings contract which makes him unkillable by residents of tower. These residents included the already present irregulars as well thats why they never bothered to side with arlene against jahaad anyways the point is that jahaad extended this contract towards arlene as he believed she would be his queen but she had other plans.
Well, Rachel said that Arlene called Bam a monster. Taking her words as true, there can be an absolutely different story behind Bams arrival to the tower. It will be clear only after we hear the truth about the cave from Rachel. Interesting how it will change the lore of ToG.
I believe V is alive. Maybe not in his original body but alive after all, the whole suicide thing seems weird to me, and I can't help but be wary of Arlene. I also think, maybe straight after the nest arc, Bam will go back to Garam and she will explain the whole story. Also, right now BamxEndorsi is the ship with tht most hints towards, but i like the EnnexBam ship :P
How does the immortal arlene disappear… thats what i want to know, how she spent so many years searching to revive bam and then he’s abandoned….. that just makes zero sense imo i just feel like shes somewhere not saying anything. honestly it feels like an open ended plot point its just an extremely curious question with all the lore of how she lived
4:00 jahad is giving her one of the rings that made by the half of the key. hmmmmmm rachel told wangnan that she know someone wearing the same ring as his. that's so weird .
Well, she refused the proposal, so it'd be weird for her to have the ring. But the theory that he proposed to her with a ring that's part of the key is nice.
She saw that ring on karaka hand and she had been working with fug all that time . And karaka and Wagnan are only one with that keys . And i suspect that Jahrd will give part of key to someone who wants to go above level .
Hello! Could you make a lore on V ? I haven’t found any contents on this character! Btw, ur videos are really cool to watch and u speaking is really easy to understand for non English people ;)
Couldn't Macseth also be someone to know a way out of the tower aside from Arlene? How would he know If the Workshop exists both in and outside the tower he'd have to be either an Irregular himself or travelled outside or at least have some sort of communication right? Unless there are Regulars who come from outside of the tower im not sure on that.
Yeah it's possible, and Arlene must had a special weapon (like the laddle) to give to them in exchange to get out of the tower. And maybe that's why Urek doesn't quit the tower yet cuz he has nothing to offers and must find a way himself with the Wolhaiksong.
Nonsense theories : I think the resurrection of Bam was not free so Arlene maybe exchange something like her own life to the God of the Outside, it would explain why she didn't enters the tower and send Rachel to raise him. Also maybe Phantaminum was one of Jahad's acquaintance in the outside and heard about it so he went to the tower to show this to Jahad and also show to him his future maybe that's why he didn't kill him when he was way stronger. Phantaminum do not want to interfere with the affairs of the God of the Outside, that's why he didn't kill Yuri. So this my theories 😌👍
Recent chapters may have just shed light on why Arlene hates the 10 great families so much. From my understanding, traumerei pinned the blame of amizu’s death on V and this caused the 10 great warriors to indiscriminately crush Arlene and V while accusing V of killing Amizu. V committed suicide to atone for a crime he never did in order to appease the jahad and the 10 great warriors so they might welcome back Arlene, since I’m inferring that they hate V.
Been thinking a lot about Tower of God. What if Baam somehow meets with Eurasia in the labyrinth she’s trapped in? What if Baam gets close to being corrupted and suddenly his Dad (like a spell of some sort to make an apparition of him or something) or Mom appears and manages to get him back to himself, like a fail-safe. (I’m thinking about that time in Naruto when Nine Tails almost takes over Naruto and his Mom appears and helps him) What if Evankhell/Kallavan dies and Baam wounds up getting the EoB or the Ancient Elephant? Hmmm
in V's eyes: he felt responsible/guilty thinking he screwed alrene over, so seppuku (in his eyes) wouldve been a(n) efficient way for alrene to forget about him and have a different life
Hey, so since Bam was born on the 43th floor, how do you think he became an Irregular/Outsider? Technically speaking, wasn't he born inside the Tower and then taken Outside? Does that mean that when someone manages to leave and enter the Tower through its doors, that's how they gain that status? Or did Bam became an Irregular/Outsider due to the God from the Outside's powers entering him, and thus, changing the components in his body? It's unknown whether this is true or not, but I think it's safe to assume that the natives of the Tower are more or less made from Shinsoo and thus the components of their physical bodies are inherently different with Irregulars/Outsiders, since there is no Shinsoo outside. And it makes me wonder, which case is it really for Bam? I hope you can touch on it soon because I'm curious on what your thoughts are about it.
Very interesting What also might be true is rachel leaving the tower WITH arlene which explains why she isn't as strong as other irregulars and Baam gaining power could be from being the child of 2 family head irregulars basicly making a irregular child Just like how with saiyans if goku gets a child with chi chi gohan goten etc are half saiyans which are obviously strong (regular family members) however full blood saiyans (irregulars) are at 100% power are even crazier
Bam was killed and brought outside the tower to the ‘outside god’ so when he was revived it was outside the tower therefore making him an irregular free of the towers rules
@@skyreapery2n164 I consider that as a possibility, but I feel like it's less likely to be considered an Irregular just because of that. Main reason being that Irregulars are referred to by the Administrators as "the one who opened the door" or "who came from the Outside" and while it could just be their default greeting to Irregulars, it's still important in that it's the Administrators acknowledgement, but then again we don't know how they greet Irregular descendants.
Okay here me out this is gonna be a long shot but what is V and Jahad are the same person, what if Arlene wanted to keep climbing and Jahad/V wanted to stop and Arlene lost faith in him. Jahad could have asked the administrator to change everyones memory. There's alot more thoughts that I have about this and even more holes in the idea but I think that Jahad and the administrator could patch those holes with like a memory wipe/change. Also Jahad's eyes were in the cave right so maybe he never actually wanted him dead maybe he wants him to take over as king of the tower, because I think if Jahad actually wanted him dead he would just show up and end him right where he stands. Idk just spittballing, I know it's a long shot but atleast an interesting thought
Hmmmm interesting idea but i believe V ane Zahard were two different person. I am more convinced with the theory of Zahard being Baam's dad. Specially a lot of people who are meeting him said that it feels like they're standing before the king or their "father" referring to the Z's princesses.
i don’t remember the whole theory buy i remember someone said that they think arelene killed V (i forgot the reason) because of how little sense it makes for him to lose his newborn son and then go “fuck you arelene” and kill himself as well
Yeah like literally he warrior so he sure has to be mentally strong too to go on adventure like In tower and this dude seems to be rival of Jahard too . So for me sure it doesn't make sense . But if its true that he did suicide. Then my current image of him being most retarded guy in tower will be solid as long as i live .
I think it's possible that before zahard begin to change arlen had feelings for him but after he begins to change her feelings for him disappear and eventually turn into hate I always think that bam and Rachel have the same like relationship a zahard and arlen have
could be that the actual god of the tower sent pentaminum and enryu because they were angry jahad stopped right at the 134th floor, maybe the god wanted them to keep going
I think so too. The tower probably has a purpose that can only be completed if someone reaches the top, Zahard acted as a blockage and prevented anyone from reaching it and the outside god didn't like it.
Also if Garam wasn't telling the whole truth then it would mean Rachel's "your mom thought you were monster and hated you" statement had some truth in it
I think Bam can be considered both a citizen of the tower and an Irregular becuase he was born in the tower was killed, then revived outside the tower only to return to it. So will that affect the ability for him to kill jahad, also how is Bam avle to break all of the tower's rules?
That was what I was asking in a seperate comment as well. There are currently two possibilities, either due to the God from the Outside's power awakening him, Bam's body became different from the one he was originally born with inside the Tower (which was prolly made out of Shinsoo), or... the definition of an Irregular is someone who enters from the Outside (meaning, it doesn't matter where you were born or whether you really are from the Outside, but rather, it's where you enter)
Dude I would love your take on the "Baam is Zahard son" theory, It is so well structured that when I was reading it I was feeling I was reading huge spoilers.
This is the second time I watched this video, honestly it is still so good. But, the things that really made me think is how Gustang and Data of Khun Eduan describes V differently. Gustang said that V is the most horrible person he ever met or something like that while Eduan said that if he ever choose one in their group to be a king, he will choose V. Because V is really interested on the creatures in the tower, while them as they continue climbing they don't care anymore or such. Ahhhhhh gosh, I don't know who tell the truth. And then who is the person garam talks when bam leaves.
I think they both may be being sincere.It depends on your point of view, a person can be an angel to one person and a devil to another. Besides, he could act differently with each of the two. Or hide part of your personality . Or simply, V had characteristics appreciated by Khun but hated by Gustang
I find it interesting that Arlene, who is now clearly driven by revenge, was described by Gustang as someone who got along with everyone (including Gustang). It’s clear that she isn’t that person anymore because of everything that happened. But it does seem like she was sort of the person that brought them all together and brought the people like Gustang out of their shell. Sort of like how Bam brought all of his companions together.
It zahard who reunite his team bam is often compared to zahard arlen was more like the cheerful girl who motivates everyone kinda like Rachel but in reality hide a sadistic personality like Rachel
@@Anzeer1stclass-A1ST XD? Fuck no
@Sebrel _ß no I think arlen want bam to go inside the tower and become a monster that will achieve her revenge she wants bam to destroy everything on the tower destroy zahard destroy the ten great family heads bring chaos into the tower and destroy it's because the tower had ruined her life
@@tomula2718 what do we actually know about arlen nothing except the fact she was zahard first love, she betrayed zahard and start a war on him, her child was killed by zahard,she gone insane, she was obsessed with the stars. don't you see siu just showed us just a little bit of her nothing has been completely revealed about her she is full of mystery
@Sebrel _ß I actually think Rachel might have done that maliciously to be fair, because Rachel clearly lived above him in a better place and seemed to be the only person that knew he was there. What if Rachel, who was tasked with taking care of him, maliciously kept him down there in the hopes of stopping him from being the “hero”. I do think Arlene thinks of him as already being dead though and might not even see him as being her son anymore.
Theory
1. FUG means “forgiven under grace”
2. Arlene is the founder of FUG refusing to marry Jahad.
3. Before dying Arlene made a deal with the outside tower God that Bam will defeat Jahad.
That is a very interesting theory!
I don’t think she can died Bc she immortal unless she found a way to died but great theory
@@dustinaguirrefierro8736 wouldn't the contract be invalid outside of the tower?
@@jacobsermersheim6758 true didn’t think about ,that hopefully she’s alive I want to see her meet bam
Arlene has the same ear rings as young jahad
Everyone simps for Baam and Arleen
One of the most mysterious character in the tower. Excited!
The list of mysterious people is actually kinda long😅
@@thabzelathe1st facts
Phantaboi is also very mysterious
@@okay3131 they should make him madara type character
An interesting thing about the name is also that Viole comes from the Korean word for star. Rachel's obsessions with the stars originated from Arlene, and Arlene even wrote in her diary about "vast sky and shining stars which are so much like my own home".
Perhaps the moment her child died and was resurrected, the 'star' became a the 'night'.
:o
Viole means violet in italian
Korean passing by here. I can't seem to relate the word 비올레(viole) with any star related korean. Can u give an example of this??
If it's from 별(byeol), i must say the jump seems a bit drastic and if its what siu intended, I'm wouldn't be impressed...
Pretty sure viole relates to V and the name was given by FUG and not Rachel so it's not about stars
The first time that I saw V, I was like "He is adult Hatz!". Just look at him, they are identicals!
Hatz is his reincarnation? Haha
Bruh you only saw his back, am I missing something
Nah he's totally like jvg
17 minutes and still felt too short because it’s such a good video lmao
Day 6 of asking for a Karaka Lore video
yeh, we need a karaka video
Yes I would love to see a Karaka and Wagnan brother video
eye i knew im not the only one who's inlove with karaka's character development
Imagine without realizing it dead baby Baam removes the spell on him by accident.
yes I’ve been wanting an Arlene grace video since she is one of the most mysterious characters in the story I’m almost one hundred percent certain that she’ll be a villain down the line as with the information we have so far it adds up in my opinion with some of the info we got from the garam story about her going crazy after the death while I believe that the story doesn’t completely add up as I feel she killed V from anger since he doesn’t seem like a person who would kill him self so I’ll be interested to see if this turns out to be the case we also need more info on her ties to Rachel
Arlene has the same ear rings as young jahad
''fug named baam Jue Viole Grace and -- they want him to bring down jahad and lead the path to higher heights''
Fug: * tries to melt Baam *
On fug's defense, not all member of fug knew that planned. T'was orchestrated by karaka alone. That's why when Jinsung ha knew what he did, he gone mad. And note that some of the fug members doesn't approve of baam yet. They know the prophecy but they didn't who it is that's why they're still doubting baam.
I’m excited to see her in the future, if she appears at all and how her actions will impact the rest of tog. I want to know what kind of relation she has to Rachel since that part is really mysterious
one of the many things i love about tower of God's lore and its way of explaining the lore to is is that, every answer we get is followed up with 10 questions, and even those answers are sometimes not 100% the truth with leads to even more questions.
ive been also thinking, about how well tog is structured, think about it, it was designed in a way that sets up soo many plot lines and hundreds and hundreds of chapters worth of content, like the 10 families and jahard is one thing, and then there is the interesting past to explore, and we are not even close to dealing fully with these guys,but better yet, we even have a full mysteries about what's beyond the known tower level, and its sets up soo much stuff for the future, man, just thinking about it is so epic.
Ikr I love how much potential exploring there is!! Now all we need is for SIU to take care of himself, so that we can witness this story unfold fully!
Please SIU we need to see the epic end (ʘᴗʘ✿)
@@amphathyst yea, i want this to have one of the best endings in visual media history, and it can do this for sure
Very interesting! Arlene being a sorcerer using spells might explain why Baam is able to break any spell.
I find myself agreeing totally with the names story, it fits perfectly.
Arlene is such an intriguing character. It sounds like she was a really nice person who assisted others with her spells? It's tragic what happened to her and V.
What I don’t get is why Arlene left Bam in a cave all by himself for goodness knows how long. Or are all the original irregulars just bad terrible parents.
Nonsense theory : (it's a com I put higher)
I think the resurrection of Bam was not free so Arlene maybe exchange something like her own life to the God of the Outside, it would explain why she didn't enters the tower and send Rachel to raise him.
Also maybe Phantaminum was one of Jahad's acquaintance in the outside and heard about it so he went to the tower to show this to Jahad and also show to him his future maybe that's why he didn't kill him when he was way stronger.
Phantaminum do not want to interfere with the affairs of the God of the Outside, that's why he didn't kill Yuri.
So this my noob theory 😂👍
It wasn't her son it was her sons corpse
To be fair, Arlen was already far from a sane and reasonable person to begin with by the time she exited the Tower, although a reason why she might've left Bam alone was because she may have died shortly after exiting since Shinsoo doesn't exist outside the Tower, or maybe she had to sacrifice herself for this prophecy.
Arlen left her deceased child body to the outside god bam may not be really arlen son but someone who is using her son body
@@Anzeer1stclass-A1ST Hm, even though nothing is confirmed yet I feel like that's not true since the wording was 'awaken' or 'ressurected' rather than 'possessed' and rebirth doesn't necessarily mean you lose your mind or who you could've been if you had lived longer since it's akin to a second chance under the same circumstance
I think V was also hurt to lose his child and seeing his wife so depressed so just like Arlene tried to kill herself, he did the same and succeed. He probably tried to cheer Arlene up but when you lose a child almost nothing work/
What if Arlene traded her immortality for Baam's life? What if..., Baam is immortal?
I've been thinking bam is immortal lowkey
And if he isn't he will be soon when he climbs higher right?
Isn't immortality a contract with guardians while baam was revived by the outside god
Bam could be a god yk
My guess is the exit out of the Tower is hidden with some kind of spell and that’s why Arlene was the only one able to find it… think about it, The only thing that differentiated Arlene from all the others is her ability to use high level spells. I assume she somehow used this magic to find the exit and take Baam out of the Tower 🤷🏼♂️ 🤔
Agreed!!
Gustang also knows the way out of the tower , that's how Eurasia Enne Zahard was able to go out of the tower and find Arlene's pocket there and discover the truth through her diary inside her pocket. I wonder what is the way out of the tower and how Gustang came to discover it and how Arlene came to discover it earlier.
@@shreyashreekumar9777is this really true??
FINALLY! Someone finally points out the hand of arlene detail! I can always count on my man to produce high-quality vids. Have a wonderful day.
She seems to be able to do spells from outside the Tower. And I had a discussion with someone about spells and how they affect people. I said that it was thanks to Arlene that Baam was able to resist spells and destroy them with ease. It’s like an hereditary skill, but the other person said that every single Irregular was immune to spells. Which… doesn’t make sense, cause then it would be common to the family leaders, and Jahad, and Urek, and Arlene wouldn’t have been that special. So maybe that is another skill of Baam and he can learn how to use them later on!
I always thought baam is in a spell way more powerful than any other spells, and that's why he can break them. But he gained that power in midst of season 2. so it's probably the thorn
@@sandromaspindzelashvili5767 we don’t know if he gained it in season 2, or if there simply wasn’t any way to show it before. I believe it’s more thanks to Arlene
@Sebrel _ß Yeah, I think it has more to do with Inheritance than with the Thorn. And maybe Arlene keeping his body dead in a suspended state also helped boost spell resistance
Enryu revived bam with a very strong spell so that could be a thing
@@user-ii4oi4pw3z don’t think that affects as much overall
Haven’t watched yet but I already know this’ll be a banger🙌quite possibly the one person I want to know more about above everyone else
Would be cool to see your updated favorite TOG characters since a lot has changed since your old video
8:45 Like mother like son
I Think its also interesting that arlene is a sorceres maybe even the strongest because she was one of the 13 and that bam is i think 100% immun against spells.
I dont Think that that is a coincidenc
I hope we get more information about the God from the outside of the Tower that resurrected Bam
Yes Enryu's boss
I think Arlene's true importance/power has yet to be disclosed in the story. There must be something about her to make people build gigantic statues of her, make Jahad KNEEL and ask to marry her, to make Enryu cause chaos and retribution and kill an administrator.
Exactly these things about Arlene make her much more mysterious and important than any other character,what happened with the outside God and how she knew enryu she's just an even bigger deal than anyone rn
Also, remember that "V" is just a nickname that Arlene gave to V which means that it isn't his real name so what if his real name is Viole or something close to that since Mirchea is like V's second in command so he might gave Bam the name of his father
"Arlene had a bunch of SIMPS" ahahahahahaha I cracked so hard
"TLDR; Arlene had a bunch of simps." 🤣
I also suspect that many parts of Arlene's story on her pocket might have been lies or half-truths. For example, she claimed that Jahad was going around the tower wiping out all traces of her existence. Yet like you pointed out, he left the Hand of Arlene alone despite it being a well-known spot. If you remember that arc, it was actually FUG that destroyed the Hand of Arlene. Why would they do that if Arlene is their icon? Plus in the words of Hwaryun, FUG specifically destroyed the Hand of Arlene and killed Khun to make Jahad + the 10 Great Families angry. That sounds sus to me.
Maybe Zahard and the ten families are being set up by Arlene and the people who support her. Another thing that doesn't add up is Zahard being greedy. If he really was power hungry, wouldn't he be desperate to reach the top and become a god and get everything he wants yet he settles for being a mere king and makes excuses on why he hasn't conquered the remaining floors. Zahard seems to be pretty desperate to not let anyone, including himself, to reach the top. Maybe he found out what's at the top and is very adamant on making sure no one reaches it ever since. I feel like Zahard, in a way, has good intentions.
@@aperson2697 I agree! Plus when Arlene and V started the war in order to continue climbing the tower, it was stated that the other 10 great families all sided with Jahad. Considering that we know Eduan vehemently supports V and would've chosen him as the king over Jahad while Gustang supports Arlene and is plotting against Jahad, it's fishy that they'd all take Jahad's side unless there was a really good reason. Maybe Arlene and V were the ones in the wrong for wanting to continue climbing.
@@rirururu4697 or maybe the administrators and the contracts they made with them prevented them from helping V and Arlene
@@aperson2697 question - why is everyone SO ready to believe Jahad is a "good" guy? obviously good and evil is not clear cut especially in tog, but you know what i mean. i dont get it. im team arlene ... there is nothing wrong with wanting to simply further climb the tower. jahad wanted to rule over others. sure it could be something different. but why assume it....
@@millardfilmore1403 because looking through everything the story has given as so far, the more he seems more nuanced than just an evil greedy tyrant. Like what I said, his actions contradict what some people say to him. It seems he has more reasoning. Like if he wanted more power like the greedy king he is, he should've kept climbing and become a god and rule an even bigger place, but he settles as a mere king who even went inactive for a long time.
There seems to be nothing wrong with continuing to climb the tower, or is there? We don't know for sure. And considering what I typed above, I highly suspect Jahad has a deeper reason why he doesn't want to climb.
I have more reasoning than just this alone but it's a lot. I've made comments about my theories in other videos and maybe this comment section. But they're long af and I don't feel like typing them rn.
Luslec was also second in command to V so I’m loving this theory on the name
According to the blogs it is implied that Gustang does know how to exit the tower but he is a horder of information and he does not share that information with anyone. Even Urek when he went to Gustand for info. Gustang only spoke in riddles and barely gave him any actual info on leaving the tower.
My theory is that he helped Arlene finding the exit. Why? For two reasons. Gustang calls Bam 'the savior Arlene spoke of'. The prophecy that painted Bam as some sort of messiah who'll slit the King's throat was written by Arlene after his death, meaning that Gustang most likely had contact with Arlene between the incident and her leaving the Tower. Furthermore, we know Gustang was quite fond of Arlene, even to the point where it might even influence his current resentment at the Jahad empire.
Whatever the true story is that Garam didn't tell Bam, Gustang probably knows it all. That's why he also said, "I won't talk about your father, he's the worst person I've known". Plus the things Gustang said about going beyond the 134th floor and the true prince of Jahad? Possible that it is also knowledge from Arlene, after all, she wanted to continue climbing.
Idk where I got this but for some reason I was certain that Arlene wouldn’t accept Baam as her son because he was resurrected. I also think Rachel was given the role to play his mom/sister by Arlene. Rachel was probably kept as a house maid where she wasn’t allowed to leave the estate and she accidentally went into the tower with Baam. The tower was probably a safer bet than to escape Arlene. Her calling Headon a fairy was probably a bed time story told to her by either Arlene or her actual mother who was also probably a maid. She also probably believed the tower to be a safer bet because of the stories she was told. But yeah, because Arlene saw Baam as a monster that would fulfill her desires, Arlene probably gave the motherly role to Rachel.
Another thing of note is how fast Rachel is climbing the towers, maybe not with her own physical power but there’s something to be said that she’s still made it this far this fast.
Arlene also went insane and is thirsty for revenge so I feel like she willingly sold her son off to the prophecy so she can get revenge on Zahard. She and V also decided to have a child in the middle of a freaking war after they lost, causing the child to inevitably get involved. I feel like Arlene and V has been planning to use their child to help them because they lost.
Rachel was also holding a knife and some kind of square red object when she first entered Bam's cave. My theory is, she was planning to enter that time but coincidentally found Bam. A lonely boy who knows nothing and has nothing, a blank slate she could easily take advantage of. Then ended up using him as a key to enter the tower and steal his spot. And I feel like when Rachel as a child was reading the book about a legend that she mentioned a couple of times, she dreamed to be the heroine in it that will save everyone.
V and Arlene lost against the other 11… i mean, for them to even stand a chance meant they were very powerful. Even Khun said that V must’ve been amongst the most powerful of the group, with him having the strongest… shinsu tensity? Forgot what it was
It was the Shinsu's Tension, also this plus High level spell can't win against :
Jahad the most polyvalent of all of them, Arie Hon's sword, Ari Han needles, Khun Edahn spears, ice and thunder, Yeon Hana with her primordial flames, Ha Yurin with her martials arts and physical abilities, Eurasia the best wavecontroller, Gustang IQ and tactics, Bloodmadder defense and and eye of the god of TuPerie plus Lo Po Bia's pets.
Maybe they was the two most powerful just after Jahad cuz he is their leader and was the strongest adventurer.
@@karaka2253 Tension! Thanks! And dunno, we haven’t seen the level of spells that Arlene could make. Maybe she stood a chance against some of them. It would be awesome to see that level. But Bam should have a high Tension, higher than Jahad at least, and a capacity to use spells. Plus, all the other abilities he already has with Shinsu
@@karaka2253 Could be! But even Khun at one time said he thought V could be the leader
@@manueldelgado5336 In fact yes but maybe cuz he is a reincarnation he don't inherited his parents genes so he is just monster who can copy and devours anything.
I wants him to be special and unique not only being capable of copying.
I have a theory that enryu and V are the same guy, he could have been resurrected if the outside God (or phantaminum) wanted so. Enryu knows weirdly too much about V and Arlene and the family heads never saw enryu so there is no conformation of his identity
Enryu being the resurrection of V could makes sense cuz the Redhair guy was very upset about the worship of Jahad in the 43th floor, her favourite floor.
But I didn't think The God of the Outside and Phantaminum are the same entity. SIU said himself that Enryu and Phantaminum never meet each other so he can't be the uber driver of someone he doesn't know.
@@karaka2253 yeah I also don't think phantaminum and god are the same guy but phantaminum doesn't need to meet enryu to guide his actions, remember he is an axis he decides whatever happens in the tower
@@aarav7851 true, true
@@darkinnovator2479 Like SIU said we'd never see Phantaminum again!
Dude. I love the idea that Rachel was a maid or something to Arlene before being put in charge of Bam. Totally missed that detail about folding clothes. Maybe she did it out of duty to Arlene or something but slowly became jealous of Bam's Destiny so wanted to take it for herself?
Or instead of a maid she was a servant of Arlen in fug, which could explain how rachel got so much support from fug
I was actually searching around for a video like this not too recently too!
Glad to see it came just then!
I would also like to add that Arlene & V were the ones that started the war against Jahad. The age of genesis was also their fault. So, there's a distinct line that follows
I never noticed this until someone pointed it out to me, but V is not once referred to as Baam's father. With the exclusion of Data Eduan, which can be written off as him having heard it from Data Hansung, who as a regular could've been fed propaganda from FUG. But honestly I find it really interesting, especially considering the wording of Garam's telling of Arlene to Baam went out of its way to prevent the mention of V as his father. I'm not entirely sure whether this is intentional or not, but it makes for an interesting situation considering most people consider it canon that V is the father of Baam, and I for one believe this, but it's never outright mentioned.
Points to be noted
1-akryung has golden brown eyes if the illustration was correct then it clearly hints to something
2- i think arlene was the one who left bam in cave because who else will know jahaads symbol and the cross in the cave represents to thorn probably because the symbol has four sides so is the thorn is divided in four parts so when bam collects all fragments it might form a similar shape. These symbols in cave were left as a last message for bam by arlene.
King Jahad loved her. I think the prettiest girl in that tower. Also, she's very mysterious. Hmmmm I'm very curious about it. And let's not forget that very few secrets have been revealed about her.
No yeon hana has stated to be the prettiest among the families
@@carljohnson3347 yeah among the ten family not the great warriors
I have a theory about how this arc will end. I think that bam is too strong, not for the story but for the others regulars. If he activate all of his power I am sure he is at an advance ranker level. But at this point all his friends are useless even with Kun flame and rak’s new spear; endorosi is the strongest of bams friends and still she is very weak. The story definitely needs a 100+ years time skip, but if that happen bam will be at urek level or something close. What I think is that bam will be trap at the supendium were junsun ha is, the story said in the supendium time stop or something like that . And after the 200 years later FUG will try to rescue bam. (maybe yuri will ask urek to save bam).Most of bams team will be much stronger than before and some even be rankers. Is a weird theory but I thinks that the story needs a time skip like this.
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Jahad and Arlene having the same earings if you notice😊
8:46 I have never heard truer words
This is one of the first videos i have recently watched from you i think in years (just really busy). But I’m in love with your content and give you double bonus points for the Persona 5 music. You’re content is in incredible!
Pretty confident that Mirchea Luslec isn't actually related to Arlene Grace but took the Grace as an sort of honor like carrying the name grace onwards. "Don't you forget the name Grace" type of thing.
I always thought spells where an ability that came from outside the tower, from a far gone time.
Especially since bam (and I'd assume other irregulars) has some kind of ability to overpower/nullify spells.
Most spells or spell casters seem to be from the outside/decedents from people from the outside (especially from the head families)
that's why a lot of the spell users are ancient or irregulars from outside. In some cases it's passed on and taught to others
I think Whites book/soul powers come from spells/rituals, and the power protecting the wall in chapter 3 is a spell that bam needed to break
I have a theory. I believe arlene had or has( why i use has is because i believe she is still in tower) a queen contract. Why? Because jahaad made the contract with the administrator to make both of them immortal in age and body so nobody could kill them in tower. Whats the proof? Proof is her unable to commit suicide. If you go back in chapters somewhere on 21st floor chapter there is a convo between wangnan and hwaryun that explains jahaad has kings contract which makes him unkillable by residents of tower. These residents included the already present irregulars as well thats why they never bothered to side with arlene against jahaad anyways the point is that jahaad extended this contract towards arlene as he believed she would be his queen but she had other plans.
Well, Rachel said that Arlene called Bam a monster. Taking her words as true, there can be an absolutely different story behind Bams arrival to the tower. It will be clear only after we hear the truth about the cave from Rachel. Interesting how it will change the lore of ToG.
ooooh didn't realize we missed someone so important
Love the video and jahad probably didn’t know about the hand because he went to sleep for so long after the war
Or instead of a maid she was a servant of Arlen in fug, which could explain how rachel got so much support from fug
8:45 I mean, that's where Bam got it from-
I gOt iT fRom maH moMmY~
I believe V is alive. Maybe not in his original body but alive after all, the whole suicide thing seems weird to me, and I can't help but be wary of Arlene. I also think, maybe straight after the nest arc, Bam will go back to Garam and she will explain the whole story. Also, right now BamxEndorsi is the ship with tht most hints towards, but i like the EnnexBam ship :P
How does the immortal arlene disappear… thats what i want to know, how she spent so many years searching to revive bam and then he’s abandoned….. that just makes zero sense imo i just feel like shes somewhere not saying anything. honestly it feels like an open ended plot point its just an extremely curious question with all the lore of how she lived
I am eagerly waiting for the arc when the story of the great warriors will be told. My guess is Probably the head of fug will narrate that story
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A prince of the red light district?
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jahad is giving her one of the rings that made by the half of the key. hmmmmmm
rachel told wangnan that she know someone wearing the same ring as his.
that's so weird .
Well, she refused the proposal, so it'd be weird for her to have the ring. But the theory that he proposed to her with a ring that's part of the key is nice.
She saw that ring on karaka hand and she had been working with fug all that time . And karaka and Wagnan are only one with that keys . And i suspect that Jahrd will give part of key to someone who wants to go above level .
Hello!
Could you make a lore on V ?
I haven’t found any contents on this character!
Btw, ur videos are really cool to watch and u speaking is really easy to understand for non English people ;)
For some reason I thought that you had Arlene video too XD
Thanks for the new tog video!
Couldn't Macseth also be someone to know a way out of the tower aside from Arlene?
How would he know If the Workshop exists both in and outside the tower he'd have to be either an Irregular himself or travelled outside or at least have some sort of communication right?
Unless there are Regulars who come from outside of the tower im not sure on that.
Yeah it's possible, and Arlene must had a special weapon (like the laddle) to give to them in exchange to get out of the tower.
And maybe that's why Urek doesn't quit the tower yet cuz he has nothing to offers and must find a way himself with the Wolhaiksong.
Nonsense theories :
I think the resurrection of Bam was not free so Arlene maybe exchange something like her own life to the God of the Outside, it would explain why she didn't enters the tower and send Rachel to raise him.
Also maybe Phantaminum was one of Jahad's acquaintance in the outside and heard about it so he went to the tower to show this to Jahad and also show to him his future maybe that's why he didn't kill him when he was way stronger.
Phantaminum do not want to interfere with the affairs of the God of the Outside, that's why he didn't kill Yuri.
So this my theories 😌👍
Recent chapters may have just shed light on why Arlene hates the 10 great families so much.
From my understanding, traumerei pinned the blame of amizu’s death on V and this caused the 10 great warriors to indiscriminately crush Arlene and V while accusing V of killing Amizu. V committed suicide to atone for a crime he never did in order to appease the jahad and the 10 great warriors so they might welcome back Arlene, since I’m inferring that they hate V.
Today has paid off. Today, I have NEEDED to rewatch this video
Holy shit, what if Arlene used a spell to make herself young again to become unrecognizable in the tower and goes forth as Rachel.. I doubt it tho lol
Been thinking a lot about Tower of God. What if Baam somehow meets with Eurasia in the labyrinth she’s trapped in? What if Baam gets close to being corrupted and suddenly his Dad (like a spell of some sort to make an apparition of him or something) or Mom appears and manages to get him back to himself, like a fail-safe. (I’m thinking about that time in Naruto when Nine Tails almost takes over Naruto and his Mom appears and helps him) What if Evankhell/Kallavan dies and Baam wounds up getting the EoB or the Ancient Elephant? Hmmm
It'll be a great plot twist if arlene was evil and Rachel was like saving Bam in a way.
No that would’ve just been straight shit Rachel trying to kill khun and bam ant killing his whole team and Rachel being “good” would just be dumb
Literally the 3rd test administrator:
Bro you weak
Khun:
What
Arlene:Watching from the corner with popcorn*
I just love your channel always excited to see new updates
Hope your doing fine
in V's eyes: he felt responsible/guilty thinking he screwed alrene over, so
seppuku (in his eyes) wouldve been a(n) efficient way for alrene to forget about him and have a different life
Hey, so since Bam was born on the 43th floor, how do you think he became an Irregular/Outsider? Technically speaking, wasn't he born inside the Tower and then taken Outside? Does that mean that when someone manages to leave and enter the Tower through its doors, that's how they gain that status? Or did Bam became an Irregular/Outsider due to the God from the Outside's powers entering him, and thus, changing the components in his body?
It's unknown whether this is true or not, but I think it's safe to assume that the natives of the Tower are more or less made from Shinsoo and thus the components of their physical bodies are inherently different with Irregulars/Outsiders, since there is no Shinsoo outside.
And it makes me wonder, which case is it really for Bam? I hope you can touch on it soon because I'm curious on what your thoughts are about it.
Maybe hes is an Irregular by virtue of being born from two Irregulars....
Very interesting
What also might be true is rachel leaving the tower WITH arlene which explains why she isn't as strong as other irregulars and Baam gaining power could be from being the child of 2 family head irregulars basicly making a irregular child
Just like how with saiyans if goku gets a child with chi chi gohan goten etc are half saiyans which are obviously strong (regular family members) however full blood saiyans (irregulars) are at 100% power are even crazier
@@skyreapery2n164 just being a child of two irregulars doesn’t make you an irregular I’m pretty sure (correct me though if you know for definite)
Bam was killed and brought outside the tower to the ‘outside god’ so when he was revived it was outside the tower therefore making him an irregular free of the towers rules
@@skyreapery2n164 I consider that as a possibility, but I feel like it's less likely to be considered an Irregular just because of that. Main reason being that Irregulars are referred to by the Administrators as "the one who opened the door" or "who came from the Outside" and while it could just be their default greeting to Irregulars, it's still important in that it's the Administrators acknowledgement, but then again we don't know how they greet Irregular descendants.
Okay here me out this is gonna be a long shot but what is V and Jahad are the same person, what if Arlene wanted to keep climbing and Jahad/V wanted to stop and Arlene lost faith in him. Jahad could have asked the administrator to change everyones memory. There's alot more thoughts that I have about this and even more holes in the idea but I think that Jahad and the administrator could patch those holes with like a memory wipe/change. Also Jahad's eyes were in the cave right so maybe he never actually wanted him dead maybe he wants him to take over as king of the tower, because I think if Jahad actually wanted him dead he would just show up and end him right where he stands. Idk just spittballing, I know it's a long shot but atleast an interesting thought
Hmmmm interesting idea but i believe V ane Zahard were two different person. I am more convinced with the theory of Zahard being Baam's dad. Specially a lot of people who are meeting him said that it feels like they're standing before the king or their "father" referring to the Z's princesses.
Is it just me or does Wangnan’s nanny look a lot like Arlene?
Bruh I saw "lore" and clicked instantly. I already know the next 17mins gonna be good content 😏
Are you going to make updated lore videos later on, cuz we'll probably get a lot more info on these characters
i don’t remember the whole theory buy i remember someone said that they think arelene killed V (i forgot the reason) because of how little sense it makes for him to lose his newborn son and then go “fuck you arelene” and kill himself as well
No v committed suicide
Yeah since it doesn't make sense why would V leave his wife who already lost her son unless he's a jerk who couldn't read the room.
@@xehjuonads5801 yeah i know that thats what they say happened but not everything in the tower is always as its told the first time
Yeah like literally he warrior so he sure has to be mentally strong too to go on adventure like In tower and this dude seems to be rival of Jahard too . So for me sure it doesn't make sense . But if its true that he did suicide. Then my current image of him being most retarded guy in tower will be solid as long as i live .
I think it's possible that before zahard begin to change arlen had feelings for him but after he begins to change her feelings for him disappear and eventually turn into hate I always think that bam and Rachel have the same like relationship a zahard and arlen have
What if V killing him self was apart of Arlen’s to bring back Bam to exact revenge on Jahad 🤔
I was looking for this
Gustang knows how to leave the tower...
could be that the actual god of the tower sent pentaminum and enryu because they were angry jahad stopped right at the 134th floor, maybe the god wanted them to keep going
I think so too. The tower probably has a purpose that can only be completed if someone reaches the top, Zahard acted as a blockage and prevented anyone from reaching it and the outside god didn't like it.
Arlen wanted to see the stars.
Jahad wanted to be her star. The only thing waiting at the top of the tower
Do you think Arlene was a wave controller she might of been the first one to wield a wand that the workshop mass produced to suit the tower?
😭😭 bam has a lot of simps too
Legends say gustang also simped
I read somewhere that tower is one piece of a larger world
I wonder how Phantaminum fits into all this
is he or she a Arlen simp too lol
I mean she is the mother of Bam of course she has lot of simps
I bet the next will be Kallavan ToG Lore :)
I do not think V ki##ed himself to help Arlene. He ki##ed himself to help himself and escape his own pain.
V.'s Robe kinda looks like Karaka's robe.
You're right also a bit of Hatz's one
I love the Nier sample in the background
Also if Garam wasn't telling the whole truth then it would mean Rachel's "your mom thought you were monster and hated you" statement had some truth in it
I think Bam can be considered both a citizen of the tower and an Irregular becuase he was born in the tower was killed, then revived outside the tower only to return to it. So will that affect the ability for him to kill jahad, also how is Bam avle to break all of the tower's rules?
That was what I was asking in a seperate comment as well. There are currently two possibilities, either due to the God from the Outside's power awakening him, Bam's body became different from the one he was originally born with inside the Tower (which was prolly made out of Shinsoo), or... the definition of an Irregular is someone who enters from the Outside (meaning, it doesn't matter where you were born or whether you really are from the Outside, but rather, it's where you enter)
Dude I would love your take on the "Baam is Zahard son" theory, It is so well structured that when I was reading it I was feeling I was reading huge spoilers.
Arlene and Enryu know each other since she is the reason he attacked Jahad's subordinates. Does that mean Enryu and Rachel know each other?
Do a video drawing parallels of the 13 warriors and Bams group of friends
if Baam was born on the 43rd floor how is he an irregular?
because he reborn again in the cave ?
This is the second time I watched this video, honestly it is still so good. But, the things that really made me think is how Gustang and Data of Khun Eduan describes V differently.
Gustang said that V is the most horrible person he ever met or something like that while Eduan said that if he ever choose one in their group to be a king, he will choose V. Because V is really interested on the creatures in the tower, while them as they continue climbing they don't care anymore or such.
Ahhhhhh gosh, I don't know who tell the truth. And then who is the person garam talks when bam leaves.
I think they both may be being sincere.It depends on your point of view, a person can be an angel to one person and a devil to another. Besides, he could act differently with each of the two. Or hide part of your personality . Or simply, V had characteristics appreciated by Khun but hated by Gustang
I can't wait to see that panel when Jahad asks Bam his name, and Bam will say: I am your slayer, Jue Viole Grace!
Arlene is trapped in the 135th floor