I know this tutorial is old, but I just found it and it really helped me alot. The fact that you are willing to explain to novices how air compressor couplings work shows just how dedicated you are to your subscribers like me, and how dedicated you are to really helping people. Thanks for all you do, Mr. Angove, you are a great teacher! Cheers to you from southern Illinois!
Good video. So many videos assume everyone is knowledgeable in all the areas and often people are not so you explaining everything is probably a big help to many novices. I have the same gun but the earlier version (FLG3). I picked up a few things from your video about it ! Only thing I would add is your much better off keeping the couplers to an absolute minimum so it keeps the gun much more nimble, light, and from dragging the air line across your paint job. I hook the regulator like yours DIRECTLY to the gun like it comes new. You can actually tighten it enough by hand using the Gauge for gripping or use a wrench. Then add the air Chuck at the bottom. Or even better a SWIVEL air chuck.
I’ve just bought myself my first small compressor, I only do very small projects as I have disabilities. I certainly won’t be painting any cars or even a car's door. All I wanted was someone to give me very basic instructions and for them to assume I know nothing, which in fact would be the truth. I don’t know how many videos I’ve watched that assume I know how to use a gun and want to teach the higher level skills. I’m sure that’s what the vast majority of people want to see but at the moment I don't. I just want to paint something for the first time. This is the first video I've seen that caters for me and people like me, an old guy who wants to learn something new. I can’t tell you how pleased I am that I finally found this video, thank you very much indeed.
4:10. Packing nut's only function is to stop paint from leaking out around the needle. Pull force is determined by the spring at 4:58. Yes you can increase trigger force by tightening the packing nut. It is not recommended because that just increases wear on the packing nut and the needle. It only needs to be tight enough to stop a leak. Too tight can also stop the needle from seating when the trigger is released. At no point does the packing nut determine when the needle movement starts. You will always have to pull the trigger the same distance which is determined by the enlarged block portion on the needle. Anytime you adjust your fan, you must check your air pressure at the gun. Regulate your air pressure at your tank or line to +/- 5-10 psi of intended spray pressure at the gun. This is to minimize air velocity changes due to extreme pressure differentials pre and post regulator. Keeping the regulator wide open, or nearly wide open greatly reduces the venturi effect. This tends to have a greater improvement on HVLP guns, but is certainly a best practice across the board.
I thought I mentioned that the packing nut had the potential to stop the needle from seating etc., but it's been a long time since I made or have watched this video, so of course I can't say for sure. The packing nut essential just has the effect of gripping the needle a bit if it's tightened to that degree. I suppose if you're working with a small compressor dedicated solely to your gun it would be feasible to adjust the pressure at the tank. Like most people working in shops (automotive or otherwise) I obviously don't really have that option, but thanks for the suggestion. I'm not worried about the venturi effect in this case, as it's not that difficult to suitably regulate your air.
Ahhh crap. I got to bombing around youtube and forgot to look at how current your video was. Oh well good points made on all sides. Carry on, and thanks for posting and responding.
Another great video! Yours are hands down the best videos for us newbies, thanks so much!!! Finishing is the one thing that really separates the men from the boys among guitar builders, and is definitely my weakest link. But thanks to you, I'll soon overcome that!
Great information! I just finished applying glaze to eight bisque-fired bowls. The glaze came out of the gun in globs rather than a mist. Now I know what I did wrong. Wish I'd found your video before glazing. Oh well. Pieces are in the kiln firing. Will do better next time. We always learn from our failures.
I agree, this is informative. I build & fly scale model airplanes and I just started learning how to build from scratch. So naturally, I would want to paint my planes. I'm back & forth on deciding which would satisfy my paint needs, a spray gun or an airbrush. Your video does an excellent job explaining the ABC's of spray guns.
James Patterson Thanks James. Depending on what kind of paint you're intending to use, a large nozzle airbrush might serve your purposes quite well, or a small touchup gun.
this is a real well explained video i just got a lemmer spray gun &i didn't know how to use it but now i have a better understanding thanks bro great vid i'll be sure to come back n check out this video again im sure there are a lot of people that would like to thank you me for 1..
Great thanks, already helped me immensely 4 minutes in. Just bought that gun and was wondering why paint was coming out right away instead of just air when I lightly pull the trigger
Great how-to video! Really helped clear up a few points for me! I would add, the set-up portion would show a little better for using water if you aimed the spray at a light gray board, like illustration board.
Very good video. When adjusting the air, fan, and needle, can you demonstrate it on a piece of brown card board. Then, we can better see an example of what your doing. Keep up the good work and Thank You.
I think I did a video on that at some point. The general rule is: thicker paint = bigger nozzle, and if you need more paint quicker, use a bigger nozzle. I use a 1.5 or 1.7 for sealer, 1.3-1.5 for clear, and usually a 1.2-1.3 for spraying paint. You'll want to use a large nozzle for metal flake as well.
Excellent video on how to adjust your spray gun. Remember....bugs are your worst enemy. Never paint a quality car outside under a tree. Remember....bugs....and even birds......never paint a car under a tree where birds with diarrhea are ready to bombard you. Nothing worse than painting a car and a big pile of bird droppings become part of your car. Believe me....I have had to fix many a backyard car with bird poop or bugs under the clear coat.
Thanks brad, very helpful. My compressor has a gauge, but I'll be using a gauge as you suggest on the gun. If I use the gauge at the gun should I turn the gauge on the compressor up full?
Brad very informative stuff on set up and also on Acrylics in the sequel vid. Thanks. If you are spraying "Acrylic Lacquer" do you follow the rules for Lacquer (ie get plenty of flow and thick wet coats) or for Acrylics (mimimal flow and build up with multiple dusted coats)??? Interested in your advice on this. Cheers, Alex
Great information Brad! What is the optimal size air compressor for doing projects no bigger than 24"x24" in size? I don't really want to hear the compressor constantly running... Thanks !!
The size of compressor that you need depends on your paint gun. Every air tool has specific volume and pressure requirements. The larger your compressor and tank are, the less it will need to run.
nice video as usual. really want to paint my snowboard with a satin or matte catalyzed urethane finish and want to make sure i have the necessary equipment without spending more than I need to. how large of an air compressor is needed to operate a paint gun efficiently. for my use looks like ill be using around 1.5 mm nozzle. keep the videos coming they're awesome.
The size of air compressor needed depends on the gun. You should check what CFM (cubic feet per minute of air) the gun requires, and make sure that you air compressor is capable of that. Also, if you have a reasonably large tank attached to your compressor and you let it fill before you start the compressor won't have to work as hard and you may be able to get away with a slightly smaller one.
+1proudnativeson You thin the paint if it seems too thick to flow properly through your gun. Usually the data with the paint will let you know if you need to thin it and how much. You thin it by mixing it with something to thin it. What you use to thin it depends on what paint you're using.
Youre very thorough on your videos Brad , theyre great.. I have one question.. What compressor do you recommend? How many gallons does it need to be in order to do a fine paint job on a car?
+rikkyricardoo I don't have a specific recommendation for a compressor. To do a car you need one with enough CFM to be able to support your gun. Different paint guns require different CFM ratings from their compressors.
I would imagine that that would be sufficient. If you let the tank fill up all the way before you begin it will probably be alright. What is the CFM requirement for your gun?
+aantonio06 Double check that everything is tightened down properly. Does the air still come through the end of the nozzle if you take the fan cap off?
I was concerned about the high scfm rating on the finish line I just bought but then I read that a scfm rating on a compressor is at the inlet. I was thinking the more expensive two stage compressors somehow put out a higher volume of air but if it's the same psi and the same hose and couplers, etc should the air be the same? I understand my cheap compressor may not be able to handle continuous spraying but in spurts isn't it providing the same quality of air? Thanks dude, I really appreciate the info, subbed and thumbs up
The air quality is the same. It’s more a matter of volume. If you have a reasonable sized tank it can store some air volume and keep the gun running for longer on a smaller compressor.
@@BradAngove Cool, that's great news. I've spent a lot of time educating myself on bodywork and painting and I've never heard anyone mention the air quality is the same from a $100 pancake comoressor and a $1209 two stage compressor. This a revelation to me but I assume nobody mentions it because it's a basic fact to them and taken for granted. I can't think of a great analogy but if you're teaching someone how to throw a ball you probably wouldn't feel the need to explain what gravity is. Thanks again:)
Thanks for the info !! Really informative as I have never used one before. Question ? is there any type of paint which you might not want to use a sprayer with ?? Let me know.
+1proudnativeson Thanks for watching. I wouldn't want to use a spraying with really thick paint that doesn't reduce well. Metal flake paints can be difficult to spray and require a large-nozzle gun. Things like hammered finish paints don't spray well because they don't reduce evenly and they string up when you spray them. They are also really difficult to clean out of the gun. Did you have a specific type of paint in mind?
+1proudnativeson I have an olg bottom suction can type and I bought one from Harbor Freight 18 Dollar cost. What are your thoughts. My compressor is 8 gall. I got tools to clean and strain paint. What is used to cut paint?
Spraying your wagon shouldn't be a problem. Using a syphon feed gun shouldn't be a problem either. It sounds like you've got everything you need. What you use to cut the paint depends on what kind of paint it is.
Hi Brad, I saw that the second gun you presented, also have a setting wheel near the plug at the bottom, in adition to the settings on your flg4. My Iwata az3 hte2 also has it. In the paper that come with it, says only that is used to set the air flow, but not how to set it. Also from your video How do you set it? I am noy sure why would it be usefull or used for, if you have your pressure regulator. For now I am thinking to set it to full open, and set the regulator to the pressure stated for operating in the gun booklet and don't touch the air flow setting in the gun. Thx, Adrian
I'm a furniture maker. Sometimes I use a polyurethane and sometimes it's an enamel paint. Can you recommend a reasonably good quality gun, tip size and settings for enamel paint. Thank You. Dave. Buffalo, NY
The tip size depends on how much you’re thinning it. I’d probably recommend 1.3-1.5. As for the gun, if you take a look at my recent videos I’ve got a few spray gun demos from a company who’s guns I really like. So much so that I’ve made an arrangement with them to sell the guns to my viewers at a discount. If you use the link in the description of those videos, and the coupon code BRAD10% you can get 10% off. If you’re not interested in the Warwick guns from the videos, the devilbiss finish line is also an excellent gun at a good price point.
Hey. thanks for this. Curious... what type of paint and process would you use to paint the frame of a steel trailer? Would getting a paint with a built in primer (if any such thing) work or should I just go straight with the color? I'm new at all this so any advice would help. You also mentioned a filter would be good between the gravity canister. I have one that goes from the air compressor and one hooked up directly to the pressure gauge before the gun. Should I get the filter for the canister as well? thanks.
I don't really trust the paint with the built in primer. I would sand and clean it, prime it, and then do a couple coats of paint and three coats of clear probably. The filters in the air line are to take out moisture. The filter that I was referring to in the gun is to strain the paint so you don't shoot clumps by accident. You can also just use a conical paper paint strainer and poor the paint through there into the gravity feed cup.
Thanks man you are great but want to know if you don't have regulator can you test on card board by adjusting air knob on the gun not regulator and should you fix moisture trap?
+Sroor9001 yes, you can do that if you don't have a regulator. Try to regulate it at the compressor though and just use that for small adjustments. Not sure what you mean about the moisture trap.
Brad Angove thanks do you mean regulator on the compressor just have one gauge so I have to install second gauge for pressure right in case like this 😅. About filter I mean there is spray gun air line filter Do you use that or its luxury accessory just new in compressor and painting with air compressor also
Brad Angove thanks a lot friend you are so kind and reply fast hope I got some of your experience by time 😅 ok for the air trap that's why I bought 2 filter which is to be attached to the gun but it's not red or blue which is disposable it has check valve and white element @ my work they never changed it cause it's not coming dirty but as for painting air compressor I don't know how often to change it or its permanent
do they make smaller guns for like small projects like bicycle frame go kart mini bike etc. painting or will it be to much of a overkill and rather go the can route but really interested if they make smaller guns for such projects great video very informative i do have a small airbrush sigle action gun action will that surfice
I use the standard half inch hose, mostly because that's the one that's typical in most shops. I would imagine that using a larger hose wouldn't be a problem, but I'm not sure since I haven't done that. Moisture can collect in the hoses, and anywhere else in the system really. For that reason, I try to use a moisture filter as close to the gun as possible. Usually just before my regulator. I also have a dryer on the compressor that I use, but that's because it's a large unit that provides air to the whole shop.
I do have a huge unit; it runs to whole shop. Was I using the small red one in this video? Sorry - the studio app doesn’t let me check and it’s a pretty old video so I don’t remember.
@@BradAngove ah okay. Yeah you were using a little boy on that one. You almost had me excited that my 500 dollar 30 gallon husky was going to be okay for a while! lol.
It can do some jobs for sure. You won’t be able to run a shop off it though. The little guy I was using can get me through a coat on a guitar, but won’t keep up if I’m shooting a large 4’ x 8’ sign.
@@BradAngove Even with the devilbiss HVLP guns that "require" 8-12 cfm? I know the detail gun which I can buy locally from devilbis wants 8 CFM at 30... my compressor does 7.7 CFM at 40... i'm thinking I may be okay there but not sure what to expect. My tank is 30 gallons. The information on this is all over the place!
Ya, it’s tough. It depends on the size of what you’re spraying and the size of the tank. If your compressor can’t quite keep up with the gun, you can still paint for a while using the reserves in the tank. So, if you have a large enough tank and you’re spraying something small then you can go for it.
You just need a compressor that meets the CFM and PSI requirements of the gun. I use a large shop compressor, but if you're only running a gun that's not necessary.
thank you for this :) but i have a question, the Baffle component can be placed into several different positions for the little nipple in the back side of the baffle, does it make a difference?
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but i think i got it figured out. there is a nipple on the back of the baffle that needs to be lined up with the hole in the body of the gun. i didn't do that after cleaning and was having major problems while spraying primer.
hello your videos are perfect. I'm a french guitar builder. I want to know in 2020, wich spray gun hvlp do you recommand for spraying only nitrocellulose lacquer and primer? thanks regards.
+ezra conner That's an air flow adjustment. I prefer to just use an air regulator at the base of the gun, since my gun doesn't provide a readout of the pressure inside the gun after it passes through that adjustment. I leave it open all the way.
Thanks Brad I was also given a craftsman gravity feed gun brand new the box had an inch of dust on it.the guy bought it and never used it. Says 20-50 on the directions pretty large span i usually just spray enamels i use a # 4 viscosity cup for the regular full size HVLP i'm still a rookie.Is it warm up there in the great white north.I'm is south florida.
Brad - great set of videos. Thanks so much for posting these. David - I'm been thinking about using Duplicolor Paint Shop finishing for a guitar build as well. Can you post your results?
Is my first time using HVLP guns. I was done cleaning also for the first time, but now my gun leaks from the nozzle. what can I do, gun doesn't have a packing nut. It's like second gun you showed?
All of my guns have a packing nut. Is it leaking straight out the tip of the nozzle? Can you see the tip of the needle poking into the nozzle tip when you aren't pulling the trigger?
It went well. I've yet to purchase my own gun, since I'm not quite ready to start painging my motorcycle. The video was informative for the basic mechanics I'll face when purchasing. However, I do have a question; have you dealt with or looked at any LVLP guns? I know you do guitar work mostly, which is different than automotive, but still. I'd think the slower/more effective would work best for your type of use.
I don't like LVLP guns. They spray too slowly, and it's really hard to get a nice build and a professional looking finish with them. It can be done, particularly with lacquer and acrylics, but it's not very efficient. An LVLP gun would be more appropriate for a guitar than it would be for any automotive application. I've sprayed a few car parts and a motorcycle, and the only way I would go with an LVLP is if I couldn't get a compressor that had the capacity to support an HVLP.
Thanks Brad. Very well explained and presented. Can you just come out to Queensland Australia and spray my 1947 Morris Z and save me a lot of stuffing around mate. That's if Kim Jong Un and Trumpy hasn't blown the shit out of everyone.
+Dennis Ryan if you're out in Aus, you don't need me haha. You've got Dan Power kicking around there somewhere. He makes me look like a 6 year old with a set of finger paints.
I know what you mean. I've tried working around the heater for filming, but the damned thing runs for a ridiculously long time, so I kinda stopped bothering.
I know this tutorial is old, but I just found it and it really helped me alot. The fact that you are willing to explain to novices how air compressor couplings work shows just how dedicated you are to your subscribers like me, and how dedicated you are to really helping people. Thanks for all you do, Mr. Angove, you are a great teacher! Cheers to you from southern Illinois!
I’m glad to hear you found it helpful. Thank you for watching.
Good video. So many videos assume everyone is knowledgeable in all the areas and often people are not so you explaining everything is probably a big help to many novices. I have the same gun but the earlier version (FLG3). I picked up a few things from your video about it ! Only thing I would add is your much better off keeping the couplers to an absolute minimum so it keeps the gun much more nimble, light, and from dragging the air line across your paint job. I hook the regulator like yours DIRECTLY to the gun like it comes new. You can actually tighten it enough by hand using the Gauge for gripping or use a wrench. Then add the air Chuck at the bottom. Or even better a SWIVEL air chuck.
I’ve just bought myself my first small compressor, I only do very small projects as I have disabilities. I certainly won’t be painting any cars or even a car's door. All I wanted was someone to give me very basic instructions and for them to assume I know nothing, which in fact would be the truth. I don’t know how many videos I’ve watched that assume I know how to use a gun and want to teach the higher level skills. I’m sure that’s what the vast majority of people want to see but at the moment I don't. I just want to paint something for the first time.
This is the first video I've seen that caters for me and people like me, an old guy who wants to learn something new. I can’t tell you how pleased I am that I finally found this video, thank you very much indeed.
Very glad that I could help!
4:10. Packing nut's only function is to stop paint from leaking out around the needle. Pull force is determined by the spring at 4:58. Yes you can increase trigger force by tightening the packing nut. It is not recommended because that just increases wear on the packing nut and the needle. It only needs to be tight enough to stop a leak. Too tight can also stop the needle from seating when the trigger is released. At no point does the packing nut determine when the needle movement starts. You will always have to pull the trigger the same distance which is determined by the enlarged block portion on the needle.
Anytime you adjust your fan, you must check your air pressure at the gun. Regulate your air pressure at your tank or line to +/- 5-10 psi of intended spray pressure at the gun. This is to minimize air velocity changes due to extreme pressure differentials pre and post regulator. Keeping the regulator wide open, or nearly wide open greatly reduces the venturi effect. This tends to have a greater improvement on HVLP guns, but is certainly a best practice across the board.
I thought I mentioned that the packing nut had the potential to stop the needle from seating etc., but it's been a long time since I made or have watched this video, so of course I can't say for sure. The packing nut essential just has the effect of gripping the needle a bit if it's tightened to that degree.
I suppose if you're working with a small compressor dedicated solely to your gun it would be feasible to adjust the pressure at the tank. Like most people working in shops (automotive or otherwise) I obviously don't really have that option, but thanks for the suggestion. I'm not worried about the venturi effect in this case, as it's not that difficult to suitably regulate your air.
Ahhh crap. I got to bombing around youtube and forgot to look at how current your video was. Oh well good points made on all sides. Carry on, and thanks for posting and responding.
Thank you for your comments, and thanks for watching. I appreciate the extra info.
Another great video! Yours are hands down the best videos for us newbies, thanks so much!!! Finishing is the one thing that really separates the men from the boys among guitar builders, and is definitely my weakest link. But thanks to you, I'll soon overcome that!
+Richard Wildeman Thank you. I'm glad you're finding the videos helpful.
Great information! I just finished applying glaze to eight bisque-fired bowls. The glaze came out of the gun in globs rather than a mist. Now I know what I did wrong. Wish I'd found your video before glazing. Oh well. Pieces are in the kiln firing. Will do better next time. We always learn from our failures.
Sounds like you need a bit more air perhaps. I hope the bowls turn out ok.
I agree, this is informative. I build & fly scale model airplanes and I just started learning how to build from scratch. So naturally, I would want to paint my planes. I'm back & forth on deciding which would satisfy my paint needs, a spray gun or an airbrush.
Your video does an excellent job explaining the ABC's of spray guns.
James Patterson Thanks James. Depending on what kind of paint you're intending to use, a large nozzle airbrush might serve your purposes quite well, or a small touchup gun.
Brad Angove I use epoxy paint from "Klass Kote" and I'm currently using a brush to apply this kind of paint.
It sounds like it might be too thick to apply with an airbrush. Do you have a way of thinning it down?
Brad Angove Thanx Brad. Klass Kote makes their own reducer, which I use.
Not an airbrush, a "spray gun".
Oh, sorry. I thought you wanted to use a large nozzle airbrush. If you can reduce it appropriately a spray gun should probably work.
Super helpful! Thanks for the video!
Thanks so much for this, Brad - really easy to understand - I now know what I was doing wrong (fan was too closed)! Great job!
+Charles Jones glad I could help. Make sure you re-adjust your air pressure after you have your fan pattern dialed in.
Thanks for putting in time on the video.
+Mick's Page thanks for watching.
nice job with your show dude, thanks for your time and effort.
+Pernando Seventyfaw Thanks for watching.
this is a real well explained video i just got a lemmer spray gun &i didn't know how to use it but now i have a better understanding thanks bro great vid i'll be sure to come back n check out this video again im sure there are a lot of people that would like to thank you me for 1..
Thanks, I'm glad you found the video useful.
great video !!! I was spraying paint today and I had a lot of problems.. so now i understand better what where the problems!!! thanks .
santos punay Thanks, I'm glad it helped.
Thank U ...keep going!!!.
Thanks for the video's Brad.. I watch them quite a bit. Keep up the good work my friend...
Thanks for watching. I hope they are helpful.
Find all of your videos helpful bud.. Keep em comin..
Will do sir, thank you.
Great help, thanks for putting this on. Of great help for me as a first timer.
I'm glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching.
Great thanks, already helped me immensely 4 minutes in. Just bought that gun and was wondering why paint was coming out right away instead of just air when I lightly pull the trigger
Glad I could help
Great video, thanks for taking the time to do this.
+B Mckinnon Thanks for watching. I'm glad you like it.
Another great video... Thank you
Great how-to video! Really helped clear up a few points for me!
I would add, the set-up portion would show a little better for using water if you aimed the spray at a light gray board, like illustration board.
Good point.
I just didn’t have one available at the time.
Hi Brad,
really informative video. Thanks for posting, it really helped me understand the basics of how to set up the gun I've just bought. Cheers!
Not.LRG Glad to here it. Good luck with your projects!
Great video as always Brad.I just bought a spray gun haven't used it yet this will help greatly.I have been a rattle can sprayer for a while now.
Man..bro..am I glad u made this video...u da mann.....ev..one else..it's like...😫😫😫😫😫?????
Thanks for the vid, Gonna help a lot for my car respray this weekend!
Glad to hear it. Good luck!
youre explaining very well
Thanks. I'm glad that the explanation is making sense.
Excellent vid dude! 💪
Thanks John
Remember to use the right tip set for the material you are spraying.
I believe I have a video on that topic as well. I'm not 100% sure though.
Very informative and to the point.
That damn heater unit is a beast.. seems like you don't even need it on.. tee shirt and all... :-)
Well I can’t be painting in the cold haha. It won’t dry properly.
Very good video. When adjusting the air, fan, and needle, can you demonstrate it on a piece of brown card board. Then, we can better see an example of what your doing. Keep up the good work and Thank You.
That’s a good idea. I should have done that.
Explained very well. thanks for sharing
Thank you Gene, and thanks for watching.
Thank you! Great job explaining. Learned a lot of new!
Excellent; glad to hear it.
It must be really hard to pain with all that stuff hanging off the end of the gun! Thanks for the video Brad
It's good for your shoulders haha. Thanks for watching.
Thanks, Brad...very helpful
+EyeSchooler You're welcome. I hope it serves you well.
hey Brad, do you have a video on what nozzles to use with different types of paint and primer? or does nozzle size matter that much?
I think I did a video on that at some point. The general rule is: thicker paint = bigger nozzle, and if you need more paint quicker, use a bigger nozzle. I use a 1.5 or 1.7 for sealer, 1.3-1.5 for clear, and usually a 1.2-1.3 for spraying paint. You'll want to use a large nozzle for metal flake as well.
Excellent video on how to adjust your spray gun. Remember....bugs are your worst enemy. Never paint a quality car outside under a tree. Remember....bugs....and even birds......never paint a car under a tree where birds with diarrhea are ready to bombard you. Nothing worse than painting a car and a big pile of bird droppings become part of your car. Believe me....I have had to fix many a backyard car with bird poop or bugs under the clear coat.
Thanks brad, very helpful.
My compressor has a gauge, but I'll be using a gauge as you suggest on the gun.
If I use the gauge at the gun should I turn the gauge on the compressor up full?
+Mario art That tends to be the simplest way to do it, yes. That's what I do.
Good explanations. What size air hose to you recommend for spraying?
0.5” inch seems to be the standard for spraying in my experience.
Brad very informative stuff on set up and also on Acrylics in the sequel vid. Thanks. If you are spraying "Acrylic Lacquer" do you follow the rules for Lacquer (ie get plenty of flow and thick wet coats) or for Acrylics (mimimal flow and build up with multiple dusted coats)??? Interested in your advice on this. Cheers, Alex
I spray acrylic lacquer very similarly to how I spray other lacquers.
Great video!
Thank you.
Very informative...Thank You
Thanks for watching.
Nice! Thanks so much! It is useful for me!
You're welcome; I'm glad to hear you found it useful.
Good job bubba
What about a water trap on your air line to stop water getting In to your paint
Also a good idea.
Great information Brad! What is the optimal size air compressor for doing projects no bigger than 24"x24" in size? I don't really want to hear the compressor constantly running... Thanks !!
The size of compressor that you need depends on your paint gun. Every air tool has specific volume and pressure requirements. The larger your compressor and tank are, the less it will need to run.
Great video. Thanks!!
+Kyle Klinger I'm glad you found it useful. Thank you.
nice video as usual. really want to paint my snowboard with a satin or matte catalyzed urethane finish and want to make sure i have the necessary equipment without spending more than I need to. how large of an air compressor is needed to operate a paint gun efficiently. for my use looks like ill be using around 1.5 mm nozzle. keep the videos coming they're awesome.
The size of air compressor needed depends on the gun. You should check what CFM (cubic feet per minute of air) the gun requires, and make sure that you air compressor is capable of that. Also, if you have a reasonably large tank attached to your compressor and you let it fill before you start the compressor won't have to work as hard and you may be able to get away with a slightly smaller one.
Question? How and when do you thin paint for spraying??
+1proudnativeson You thin the paint if it seems too thick to flow properly through your gun. Usually the data with the paint will let you know if you need to thin it and how much. You thin it by mixing it with something to thin it. What you use to thin it depends on what paint you're using.
Hi Brad. Thanks for your tutorials, I am learning so much. One question please, would the psi settings be the same for a mini gun or slightly lower?
I usually run my mini guns at the same or slightly higher.
Brad Angove OK. Thanks
Youre very thorough on your videos Brad , theyre great.. I have one question..
What compressor do you recommend? How many gallons does it need to be in order to do a fine paint job on a car?
+rikkyricardoo I don't have a specific recommendation for a compressor. To do a car you need one with enough CFM to be able to support your gun. Different paint guns require different CFM ratings from their compressors.
Thank you so much for answering brad, do you think a 20 gallon with 2 horse power will suffice?
I would imagine that that would be sufficient. If you let the tank fill up all the way before you begin it will probably be alright. What is the CFM requirement for your gun?
quick question. what it mean if you get an air leak right through the nozzle when getting compressed air?
+aantonio06 Double check that everything is tightened down properly. Does the air still come through the end of the nozzle if you take the fan cap off?
I was concerned about the high scfm rating on the finish line I just bought but then I read that a scfm rating on a compressor is at the inlet. I was thinking the more expensive two stage compressors somehow put out a higher volume of air but if it's the same psi and the same hose and couplers, etc should the air be the same? I understand my cheap compressor may not be able to handle continuous spraying but in spurts isn't it providing the same quality of air? Thanks dude, I really appreciate the info, subbed and thumbs up
The air quality is the same. It’s more a matter of volume. If you have a reasonable sized tank it can store some air volume and keep the gun running for longer on a smaller compressor.
@@BradAngove Cool, that's great news. I've spent a lot of time educating myself on bodywork and painting and I've never heard anyone mention the air quality is the same from a $100 pancake comoressor and a $1209 two stage compressor. This a revelation to me but I assume nobody mentions it because it's a basic fact to them and taken for granted. I can't think of a great analogy but if you're teaching someone how to throw a ball you probably wouldn't feel the need to explain what gravity is. Thanks again:)
Ya, it’s the same air. Just make sure you use a moisture filter.
Thanks for the info !! Really informative as I have never used one before. Question ? is there any type of paint which you might not want to use a sprayer with ?? Let me know.
+1proudnativeson Thanks for watching. I wouldn't want to use a spraying with really thick paint that doesn't reduce well. Metal flake paints can be difficult to spray and require a large-nozzle gun. Things like hammered finish paints don't spray well because they don't reduce evenly and they string up when you spray them. They are also really difficult to clean out of the gun. Did you have a specific type of paint in mind?
+Brad Angove I would like to try spraying my wooden wagon. Wheels are metal and I will be sandblasting all metal parts. Will this be hard to do?
+1proudnativeson I have an olg bottom suction can type and I bought one from Harbor Freight 18 Dollar cost. What are your thoughts. My compressor is 8 gall. I got tools to clean and strain paint. What is used to cut paint?
Spraying your wagon shouldn't be a problem. Using a syphon feed gun shouldn't be a problem either. It sounds like you've got everything you need. What you use to cut the paint depends on what kind of paint it is.
Hi Brad,
I saw that the second gun you presented, also have a setting wheel near the plug at the bottom, in adition to the settings on your flg4. My Iwata az3 hte2 also has it. In the paper that come with it, says only that is used to set the air flow, but not how to set it. Also from your video How do you set it? I am noy sure why would it be usefull or used for, if you have your pressure regulator. For now I am thinking to set it to full open, and set the regulator to the pressure stated for operating in the gun booklet and don't touch the air flow setting in the gun.
Thx,
Adrian
You're exactly right Adrian. It's for setting airflow. I always keep mine full open and use the air regulator at the base of the gun instead.
Brad Angove cool. Thx!
You're welcome.
I'm a furniture maker. Sometimes I use a polyurethane and sometimes it's an enamel paint. Can you recommend a reasonably good quality gun, tip size and settings for enamel paint. Thank You. Dave. Buffalo, NY
The tip size depends on how much you’re thinning it. I’d probably recommend 1.3-1.5.
As for the gun, if you take a look at my recent videos I’ve got a few spray gun demos from a company who’s guns I really like. So much so that I’ve made an arrangement with them to sell the guns to my viewers at a discount. If you use the link in the description of those videos, and the coupon code BRAD10% you can get 10% off.
If you’re not interested in the Warwick guns from the videos, the devilbiss finish line is also an excellent gun at a good price point.
Hey. thanks for this. Curious... what type of paint and process would you use to paint the frame of a steel trailer? Would getting a paint with a built in primer (if any such thing) work or should I just go straight with the color? I'm new at all this so any advice would help. You also mentioned a filter would be good between the gravity canister. I have one that goes from the air compressor and one hooked up directly to the pressure gauge before the gun. Should I get the filter for the canister as well? thanks.
I don't really trust the paint with the built in primer. I would sand and clean it, prime it, and then do a couple coats of paint and three coats of clear probably.
The filters in the air line are to take out moisture. The filter that I was referring to in the gun is to strain the paint so you don't shoot clumps by accident. You can also just use a conical paper paint strainer and poor the paint through there into the gravity feed cup.
Thanks man you are great but want to know if you don't have regulator can you test on card board by adjusting air knob on the gun not regulator and should you fix moisture trap?
+Sroor9001 yes, you can do that if you don't have a regulator. Try to regulate it at the compressor though and just use that for small adjustments.
Not sure what you mean about the moisture trap.
Brad Angove thanks do you mean regulator on the compressor just have one gauge so I have to install second gauge for pressure right in case like this 😅.
About filter I mean there is spray gun air line filter Do you use that or its luxury accessory just new in compressor and painting with air compressor also
+Sroor9001 Does the one gauge have a valve that you can adjust?
I don't always use the air line filter, but my compressor has a moisture trap on it.
Brad Angove thanks a lot friend you are so kind and reply fast hope I got some of your experience by time 😅
ok for the air trap that's why
I bought 2 filter which is to be attached to the gun but it's not red or blue which is disposable it has check valve and white element
@ my work they never changed it cause it's not coming dirty but as for painting air compressor I don't know how often to change it or its permanent
+Sroor9001 The one that I use doesn't need to be changed. It's not one with an element though. Not sure.
do they make smaller guns for like small projects like bicycle frame go kart mini bike etc. painting or will it be to much of a overkill and rather go the can route but really interested if they make smaller guns for such projects great video very informative i do have a small airbrush sigle action gun action will that surfice
+Harry Colón They make smaller touch up guns that are great for smaller projects like that.
oh ok thanks i'll have to look it up
Thanks Brad, enjoyed the video. What size hose do you recommend for Acrylic and/or 2 Part ? Also, water filter location ?
I use the standard half inch hose, mostly because that's the one that's typical in most shops. I would imagine that using a larger hose wouldn't be a problem, but I'm not sure since I haven't done that.
Moisture can collect in the hoses, and anywhere else in the system really. For that reason, I try to use a moisture filter as close to the gun as possible. Usually just before my regulator. I also have a dryer on the compressor that I use, but that's because it's a large unit that provides air to the whole shop.
So when using the Finish Line gun, is 26 PSI an ideal setting when spraying electric guitar bodies?
Robert Clowers Something along those lines typically works for me.
HV & HP & LV concerned air or paint? Nic brother
Yes. High, volume, low, and pressure.
thank you it was help full
+Jose Hernandez I'm glad you found it useful.
Good vid!
Thank you!
What CFMs does that compressor do at 30 and 40 psi? I was expecting you to have a huge unit.
I do have a huge unit; it runs to whole shop. Was I using the small red one in this video? Sorry - the studio app doesn’t let me check and it’s a pretty old video so I don’t remember.
@@BradAngove ah okay. Yeah you were using a little boy on that one. You almost had me excited that my 500 dollar 30 gallon husky was going to be okay for a while! lol.
It can do some jobs for sure. You won’t be able to run a shop off it though. The little guy I was using can get me through a coat on a guitar, but won’t keep up if I’m shooting a large 4’ x 8’ sign.
@@BradAngove Even with the devilbiss HVLP guns that "require" 8-12 cfm? I know the detail gun which I can buy locally from devilbis wants 8 CFM at 30... my compressor does 7.7 CFM at 40... i'm thinking I may be okay there but not sure what to expect. My tank is 30 gallons. The information on this is all over the place!
Ya, it’s tough. It depends on the size of what you’re spraying and the size of the tank. If your compressor can’t quite keep up with the gun, you can still paint for a while using the reserves in the tank. So, if you have a large enough tank and you’re spraying something small then you can go for it.
I also have such spray gun. Can you please tell me regarding what type of compressure machine for this spray gun?
You just need a compressor that meets the CFM and PSI requirements of the gun. I use a large shop compressor, but if you're only running a gun that's not necessary.
Thank you..
You're welcome.
thank you for this :) but i have a question, the Baffle component can be placed into several different positions for the little nipple in the back side of the baffle, does it make a difference?
The baffle?
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but i think i got it figured out. there is a nipple on the back of the baffle that needs to be lined up with the hole in the body of the gun. i didn't do that after cleaning and was having major problems while spraying primer.
Oh; I see. I’m glad you’ve sorted it out.
hello your videos are perfect. I'm a french guitar builder. I want to know in 2020, wich spray gun hvlp do you recommand for spraying only nitrocellulose lacquer and primer? thanks regards.
Devilbiss SLG-620 with 1.3mm noozle seems well (for the price range i can invest on) but i don't know. what do you think?
That's a good option. I usually use a Warwick 904HE. There's a discount code in the description of my newer videos for it.
Brad adjusting the air to the type of paint your spraying come with experience or is there a reference to refer back to??
Typically it’s based on the gun. The gun should have recommended settings. After that you just do it based on how it looks to be spraying.
The panels you use the grinder on. The holographic panels.
Oh those. I spray them the same way that I do everything else, the difference is that I use transparent paints.
whats the adjustment on the very bottom of your gun next to your air inlet?
+ezra conner That's an air flow adjustment. I prefer to just use an air regulator at the base of the gun, since my gun doesn't provide a readout of the pressure inside the gun after it passes through that adjustment. I leave it open all the way.
Ok thank you
You're welcome.
Quick question Brad.Does a detail spray gun use the same pressure hvlp that is.
I'm not sure what a detail spray gun is. Are you referring to an HVLP touchup gun?
it's a 4 ox gravity feed hvlp all it says with it is 20-50 lbs operating pressure.
I usually use 25-35 PSI for those smaller guns.
Thanks Brad I was also given a craftsman gravity feed gun brand new the box had an inch of dust on it.the guy bought it and never used it. Says 20-50 on the directions pretty large span i usually just spray enamels i use a # 4 viscosity cup for the regular full size HVLP i'm still a rookie.Is it warm up there in the great white north.I'm is south florida.
It has been quite warm up here recently. Almost too warm for my taste. I'm not made for Florida summers haha.
How much pressure for urethane paint?
It depends on the gun but usually about 26psi
Would the setup be the same for painting with Duplicolor lacquer? I'm planning on painting a guitar using their "color shop" line.
Yes, you would use the same process for that.
Brad - great set of videos. Thanks so much for posting these.
David - I'm been thinking about using Duplicolor Paint Shop finishing for a guitar build as well. Can you post your results?
Now I see my mistakes, thank you Sir!
+pochiita I'm glad you found the video helpful.
Can i buy the compressor in the video?
I'm sure you can, but most compressors have the same outlet setup.
What compressor do you usually use to spray?
I use a very large shop compressor that powers our whole warehouse. It's not something that would be a viable option for most hobbyists haha.
Oh ok, thanks!
Those attachments (couplings) are universal?
They’re common, but not universal. Those are M couplings.
do send me a link of your other vids would like to check them out as well
Haha I have a lot of other videos. If you want to have a look at them, just click on my name and check out my channel.
Is my first time using HVLP guns. I was done cleaning also for the first time, but now my gun leaks from the nozzle. what can I do, gun doesn't have a packing nut. It's like second gun you showed?
All of my guns have a packing nut. Is it leaking straight out the tip of the nozzle? Can you see the tip of the needle poking into the nozzle tip when you aren't pulling the trigger?
Brad Angove , yes once I pull the it's like the needle doesn't go back to place.
Can you do a video on how to paint the ground panels?
Not sure what you mean by ground panels.
Not going to lie, I watched this 65% because the speaker was attractive. 35% because I needed to learn the material.
So, how did that 35% go?
It went well. I've yet to purchase my own gun, since I'm not quite ready to start painging my motorcycle. The video was informative for the basic mechanics I'll face when purchasing. However, I do have a question; have you dealt with or looked at any LVLP guns? I know you do guitar work mostly, which is different than automotive, but still. I'd think the slower/more effective would work best for your type of use.
I don't like LVLP guns. They spray too slowly, and it's really hard to get a nice build and a professional looking finish with them. It can be done, particularly with lacquer and acrylics, but it's not very efficient. An LVLP gun would be more appropriate for a guitar than it would be for any automotive application. I've sprayed a few car parts and a motorcycle, and the only way I would go with an LVLP is if I couldn't get a compressor that had the capacity to support an HVLP.
Reasonable argument.
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Nice vid, but next time try to turn off that loud machine in background, for better audio.
Thanks. That was for my actual job at the time, which took priority over making a video.
Good video thx next time put some paper on the wall for the demonstration.
6:35 now everybody punch himself in the shoulder
Preciate it!
i love you. you explained it so well. just remove the "hmm k" parts you sound like the teacher from southpark :)). but thanks man great tutorial
Thanks for the feedback haha.
Thanks Brad. Very well explained and presented. Can you just come out to Queensland Australia and spray my 1947 Morris Z and save me a lot of stuffing around mate. That's if Kim Jong Un and Trumpy hasn't blown the shit out of everyone.
+Dennis Ryan if you're out in Aus, you don't need me haha. You've got Dan Power kicking around there somewhere. He makes me look like a 6 year old with a set of finger paints.
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put some cheap paint in, and try to explain again
Was the explanation difficult for you to understand this way?
It's so sad this guy got hit by a bus and his body was eaten by Pygmies....so very sad...
That is rather sad.
I'd love your presentation but the fucking background noise blew it....
I know what you mean. I've tried working around the heater for filming, but the damned thing runs for a ridiculously long time, so I kinda stopped bothering.