Class - 4 // Concepts of Ayanamsa and Vedic Period

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  • @nutangupta2305
    @nutangupta2305 3 роки тому +6

    Astronomy, Astrology, Spirituality , Vedas, Upanishads and Puranas, This is awesome learning Sir! We are indeed lucky !

  • @nagarajkrishnappa9134
    @nagarajkrishnappa9134 Рік тому +2

    Accidentally I happened to watch your channel. It is great teaching. Thanks a lot for the efforts and clarity of teachings. ನಮ್ಮ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರು ಎಂದು ಹೆಮ್ಮೆ ಸಹಿತ

  • @maulikdoshi9213
    @maulikdoshi9213 8 місяців тому +1

    Have just started my journey of learning Vedic Astrology... These videos are not only helpful and informative but also inspirational. Hats off to you & your channel....

  • @pratikkanpurwar4057
    @pratikkanpurwar4057 3 роки тому +3

    You are such an expert teacher. My humble pranams to you🙏😊

  • @Vishalkrishnasharma
    @Vishalkrishnasharma 6 місяців тому

    Sir thank you so much for your enlightenment. Very grateful 🙏🙏🙏

  • @sreedharca9063
    @sreedharca9063 2 роки тому +1

    Namaste Gurujii 🙏
    People had messed up everything, now it's very clear.
    Thank you so much sir 🙏

    • @astroguidemysore7282
      @astroguidemysore7282  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Sreedhar.

    • @Ankit_0303
      @Ankit_0303 2 роки тому

      @@astroguidemysore7282 Sir, thank you for the wonderful explanation!
      Not sure if I missed it in the video but can you clarify which ayanamsa you use - Chitrapaksha ayanamsa?

    • @astroguidemysore7282
      @astroguidemysore7282  2 роки тому +1

      @@Ankit_0303 lahiris yes

    • @Ankit_0303
      @Ankit_0303 2 роки тому

      @@astroguidemysore7282 Thank you sir. 🙏

  • @RAJESHSHARMA-ei1mv
    @RAJESHSHARMA-ei1mv 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Sir...Apreciate ur simplifying way of concepts...

  • @peoplespowerhellyeah8619
    @peoplespowerhellyeah8619 Рік тому

    Thank u sir, for sharing ur knowledge. It is so helpful for us...

  • @akkirakki
    @akkirakki 3 роки тому +2

    Sir, which Ayanamsa do you use ?

  • @energyistruth
    @energyistruth Рік тому

    brilliant … love the visuals

  • @traveleatwithreyaansh7282
    @traveleatwithreyaansh7282 3 роки тому

    Thank you for another wonderful session... great learning on the time for Vedic history

  • @ranuccioturolla4631
    @ranuccioturolla4631 7 місяців тому

    Really great,Sir. I do have a question.When we say "after one year",what kind of references we use to define a year?

    • @astroguidemysore7282
      @astroguidemysore7282  7 місяців тому +1

      "After one year" is used for the period starting from that present day and 365 days subsequent to it.

  • @cosmicchronometerastrology6096
    @cosmicchronometerastrology6096 3 роки тому +3

    . Class 4 - Concepts of Ayanamsa and Vedic period ( @ 3min)
    Rahu/Ketu have been depicted on either side of moon but on the same side of Earth. I mean shouldn't Rahu and Ketu be on either sides of our planet earth at all times considering moon revolves around the Earth.

  • @vallikrishna4009
    @vallikrishna4009 3 роки тому

    Thank you sir ..I will write this in my examination of M.A ( astro) ...it's on 23 sep ...thanks a lot ... understood well

  • @Yeggkc
    @Yeggkc 3 роки тому +2

    Valuable insight.. 👍

  • @labonisingh6459
    @labonisingh6459 Рік тому

    Thank you so much🙏

  • @ठाकुरसाहबजन्मेद

    Respected sir what's the use of Bhavchalit??

  • @SaiMadhukar-m7n
    @SaiMadhukar-m7n 7 місяців тому

    Wow

  • @varma7706
    @varma7706 Рік тому

    🙏 sir !

  • @rashisharma4344
    @rashisharma4344 Рік тому

    Please suggest authentic link or place to buy book on Vedas,not all books are right

  • @S-series1977
    @S-series1977 Рік тому

    Nice video 😮😮😅😅😅😊😊

  • @saralamenon9996
    @saralamenon9996 2 роки тому

    Super 👌

  • @cosmicchronometerastrology6096
    @cosmicchronometerastrology6096 3 роки тому +3

    Hare Krishna Guruji
    Guruji angular distance between today's vernal equinox point and first point of Aries as per Lahiri (chitrapaksha) system is 24:9:32 which is the present Ayanamsa. Now if we calculate the start and end of Kritika in terms of years using 50.33"/year as the annual precession rate then the vernal equinox point was at the start and end of Kritika Nakshatra 3635 years and 4589 years respectively. Average of which comes to 4112 years. But with all due respect sir how can we be sure that the Nakshatra Sutra is referring to the vernal equinox being in conjunction with the Kritika Nakshatra for the present Precession Cycle of the Earth's axis. Earth was formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago, ever since it is spinning and has undegone precession cycle of 25,750 years 1,74,757 times and now the Earth is undergoing it's One lac seventy four thousand seven hundred and 58th cycle of precession and nutation. Therefore which cycle of precession the Nakshatra Sutra was phrased by our ancient sages how can we tell. VEDAS are eternal since eternity till eternity.
    Egyptian astronomy began in prehistoric times, in the Predynastic Period. In the 5th millennium BCE, the stone circles at Nabta Playa may have made use of astronomical alignments. By the time the historical Dynastic Period began in the 3rd millennium BCE, the 365 day period of the Egyptian calendar was already in use, and the observation of stars was important in determining the annual flooding of the Nile.
    Therefore our religion is Sanatan which means eternal and our scriptures are our knowledge i.e., the Vedas and they are not 3000-5000 years but nobody knows how many years old. Yes they may have been "DOCUMENTED" on the then reading and writing means but Vedas are Since eternity.
    Kindly advise that which cycle of precession the Nakshatra sutra is referring to because since the format of Earth vernal equinox point has been in conjunction with Kritika Nakshatra's centre One lac Seventy four thousand seven hundred fifty seven times.
    Secondly, it is the Vernal equinox point which shifts and as per Sayana Zodiac people in the west following Sayana methodology reckon the Vernal equinox point as the first point of Aries i.e., Vernal equinox point is a pointer pointing to 0* Aries and this point shifts at the rate of Earth's precession and nutation and therefore there is an angular difference between the Niryana Fixed Zodiac's First point of Aries and Sayana Movable Zodiac's First point of Aries which is called Ayanamsa and this Ayanamsa along the ecliptic subtends an angle equal to its angular value and therefore it is not the Ayanamsa pointing to a fixed star or any place in the zodiac.
    Thirdly, if the Nakshatra sutra commences from Kritika Nakshatra that may have innumerable implications because our sages followed Nirayana Fixed Zodiac where First point of Aries i.e., 0* of Aries is fixed as being directly opposite to Chitra Star or better known today as Spica star and then why would they document Movable Sayana Zodiac's first point of Aries (Vernal equinox point) to be in Kritika Nakshatra. What I mean to convey is our sages utilizes the Fixed Nirayana Zodiac where starting point of the zodiac is also fixed as being directly opposite to Chitra Star at all times and this concept will not change, and, it has been so since eternity, and even if (not confirmed) our sages are referring to the Vernal equinox point or the 0* Aries of the movable Sayana Zodiac to be in conjunction with Kritika by mentioning Kritika's name first in the sutra, we do not know which cycle of precession and nutation nare they referring to is it the first cycle the second the one lakh cycle or the present 1,74,758th cycle presently running, as nothing is discreet in the sutras it is only a personal interpretation and inference therefore if the sages are referring to the previous precession cycle then the Vedas are 29385 years old and 55135 years old for the cycle before that and 80885 years old for the cycle before that and 106635 years old before that and
    132385 years
    158135 years
    183885 years
    209635 years old respectively as we keep analysis and calculating retrogression of Vernal equinox point along the ecliptic over Precession and Nutation cycles of our mother Earth.
    Vedas are eternal and nobody, except the almighty Param Brahm, knows how old, in terms of Time, they are

    • @astroguidemysore7282
      @astroguidemysore7282  3 роки тому +1

      Its an estimation a theory, nothing certain about it. If you have archeological proof for intelligent human life before 25K BCE then I think you have a point.

    • @cosmicchronometerastrology6096
      @cosmicchronometerastrology6096 3 роки тому

      Dr Martin Sweatman of University of Edinburgh states that intellect of humans 40000years ago was no less than what it is today. Around 80,000-100,000 years ago, three main lines of Homo sapiens diverged, bearers of mitochondrial haplogroup L1 (mtDNA) / A (Y-DNA) colonizing Southern Africa (the ancestors of the Khoisan/Capoid peoples), bearers of haplogroup L2 (mtDNA) / B (Y-DNA) settling Central and West Africa (the ancestors of Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharan speaking peoples), while the bearers of haplogroup L3 remained in East Africa.[citation needed]
      The "Great Leap Forward" leading to full behavioral modernity sets in only after this separation. Rapidly increasing sophistication in tool-making and behaviour is apparent from about 80,000 years ago, and the migration out of Africa follows towards the very end of the Middle Paleolithic, some 60,000 years ago. Fully modern behaviour, including figurative art, music, self-ornamentation, trade, burial rites etc. is evident by 30,000 years ago. The oldest unequivocal examples of prehistoric art date to this period, the Aurignacian and the Gravettian periods of prehistoric Europe, such as the Venus figurines and cave painting (Chauvet Cave) and the earliest musical instruments (the bone pipe of Geissenklösterle, Germany, dated to about 36,000 years ago).[8]
      This is what science has found till date on basis of archaeology and fossil studies however even this is not comprehensive search is still on for science not for the Ultimate Knowledge Vedas
      As per paleontology human species originated 40 million human years ago based on fossil studies, however there are n number of fossils in the Earth's womb still awaiting to be discovered and then all the timelines will change as per Bhagvad Purana Vishnu Purana Rig Veda Chapter 10.29 and Manusmriti Chapter 1 and Srimad Bhagvad Gita Shloka 8.17 this Universe and present Brahma and Vedas are 155528285333123 Human Solar Years on Earth of Milky Way Galaxy. I.e., 155.52 (approx) trillion years old . This is how old Vedas are Jyotish is and the Vedas are Apaurusheya i.e., not written or promulgated by any purush not by any being/human but the the almighty consciousness of the universe itself and the so called Vedas today Rig Yajur Sama Atharva are not Vedas in their true essence but they are Samhitas i.e, Rig Yajur Sama Atharva Samhitas and that they may have been revived or documented/written on the then means Vedas are eternal and we should believe the very scriptures which tell us about the Vedas and most of all Bhagwad Gita and Bhagvad Purana and other scriptures tell that when Brahma was created he was bestowed with the knowledge of Vedas and Brahma created Beings without any knowledge is impossible to believe Moreover the Samhitas today which are called Vedas do not own a single Authorship the knowledge of Vedas is attributed to our sages and saints and rishis who via Shruti/Smriti passed on through Guru-Shishya tradition this knowledge and few thousand years ago they may have been documented However the fact still remains that science says Earth is 4.5 billion years old and as per annual precession and nutation cycle the Kritika Nakshatra called Pleiades asterism in west astrology has been in conjunction with the Vernal equinox point 1 lakh 74 thousand 7 hundred and fifty seven times but the truth is 155.52 trillion years old as per our scriptures
      www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/649788
      www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/worlds-oldest-cave-paintings-humans-astronomy-star-1398631-2018-11-29
      www.businessinsider.com/ancient-cave-drawings-are-constellations-of-stars-2018-12
      SOME OF THE WORLD'S OLDEST CAVE PAINTINGS HAVE REVEALED HOW ANCIENT PEOPLE HAD RELATIVELY ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF ASTRONOMY. ANIMAL SYMBOLS REPRESENT STAR CONSTELLATIONS IN THE NIGHT SKY, AND ARE USED TO MARK DATES AND EVENTS SUCH AS COMET STRIKES, ANALYSIS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH
      Some of the world's oldest cave paintings have revealed how ancient people had relatively advanced knowledge of astronomy.
      The artworks, at sites across Europe, are not simply depictions of wild animals, as was previously thought. Instead, the animal symbols represent star constellations in the night sky, and are used to represent dates and mark events such as comet strikes, analysis suggests.
      They reveal that, perhaps as far back as 40,000 years ago, humans kept track of time using knowledge of how the position of the stars slowly changes over thousands of years.
      The findings suggest that ancient people understood an effect caused by the gradual shift of Earth's rotational axis. Discovery of this phenomenon, called precession of the equinoxes, was previously credited to the ancient Greeks.
      Dr Martin Sweatman of University of Edinburgh states that intellect of humans 40000years ago was no less than what it is today.

    • @kedardesai9718
      @kedardesai9718 2 роки тому

      Wow tushar you are indeed right on this theory. The Vedas were apaurusheya that is given by the god himself but krishna dwaipayana updated them by dividing it into 4 which is Rigved, yajurved , samved and atharvaved he became Vyasa . Today the Rigved provides us a date of 5561 BCE which was the date of Mahrishi Vyas and Mahabharat but there are some hints which point it to 23000 BCE .

    • @cosmicchronometerastrology6096
      @cosmicchronometerastrology6096 2 роки тому +1

      @@kedardesai9718 I am extremely grateful for your benevolence for using your precious time in analysing my theory. Thank you very much sir, thank You.

  • @008tele
    @008tele 3 роки тому

    mass mama

  • @ravibabu8423
    @ravibabu8423 Рік тому +1

    But Raman ayanamsa is more accurate

    • @astroguidemysore7282
      @astroguidemysore7282  Рік тому +1

      May be, I have not used it in research yet. I use the Lahiri system.

  • @kumarmenon2382
    @kumarmenon2382 2 роки тому +1

    Too much knowledge