@Paul121193 Yes, this is definitely at Edwards. I have seen those runways many times. The F-16 is tagging alongside to take pictures and to make sure that nothing breaks off or fails to deploy (such as the landing gear). IT IS CALLED A "CHASE PLANE." It is not racing the F-22 or anything. It is there to make sure that everything functions normally on the F-22. Change the title.
No, the f-22 outclimbs it because of sheer thrust. Vectoring does NOTHING for power, it's a maneuverability thing. The f-15's engines are 25,000 lbs each with afterburner. The f-22's are 35,000 each. Now they both have two engines, so that's 70,000 to the eagle's 50,000. That's nearly an extra engine of thrust, and their operational weights are nearly the same. So who's going faster?
@KidoSire not likely, the F-22's thrusters can move to assist it......not to mention we're not seeing the true skill..thats classified and practiced on secret air ranges
Wrong. The F-15 is just the FIRST US operational fighter to achieve this, not the ONLY one. All it takes is a positive thrust to weight ratio. I've seen the f-15 and 16 both do this, although the 15 was much more impressive. The F-22's T2W is 1.4, to 1 while the f-15's is 1.04 to 1and the f-16's is nearly 2 to 1. So BOTH the f-16 and f-22 could climb faster and accelerate faster than the f-15. And to correct you again, the f-22 does in fact have P&W engines.
This video proves nothing about TO and climb out by comparison between the 2. It does not even have both birds in frame at the same time, nor does it show the F22 from brake release into the climb out either. This video is broken and edited, it proves exactly nothing, so stop commenting, as its futile.
Don't bother arguing with the f15 fanboi... though I can't believe someone thinks a cold war fighter could shake a stick at a modern one... you think the airforce is going to spend billions on something that's not better than what they already have?
I've seen them both take off too. The F-15 had a higher thrust 2 weight, but the F-22 outclims it because of thrust vectoring.
It was to show you how fast the f-22 could pull straight up into the vertical before the f-16.
The first a/c to score a kill on an F-22 was an aggressor F-16 in Alaska late last year.
At Red Flag the F-16's are named F-16 agressor. Nonetheless they keep being a F-16 Fighting Falcon.
@JackPLflashpoint Both aircraft are still in production...
@Paul121193 Yes, this is definitely at Edwards. I have seen those runways many times. The F-16 is tagging alongside to take pictures and to make sure that nothing breaks off or fails to deploy (such as the landing gear). IT IS CALLED A "CHASE PLANE." It is not racing the F-22 or anything. It is there to make sure that everything functions normally on the F-22. Change the title.
Yes it is Edwards. But the f-22 can outclimb both the f-16 and f-15, even though the f-15 has a higher thrust to weight ratio.
Im pretty sure this is a testing launch to see the capability of the F22. Im not sure if its a common thing to do, and it maybe at Edwards AFB
Yeah? I didn't know that but I am not suprised.
No, the f-22 outclimbs it because of sheer thrust. Vectoring does NOTHING for power, it's a maneuverability thing. The f-15's engines are 25,000 lbs each with afterburner. The f-22's are 35,000 each. Now they both have two engines, so that's 70,000 to the eagle's 50,000. That's nearly an extra engine of thrust, and their operational weights are nearly the same. So who's going faster?
@trav1971
no thank you sir
actually the mig-25 could as well and was introduced sooner (by like 2 or 3 years), also the i believe the EEL could as well back in the 50's.
the F-16 was acting as a chase plane
After it was allowed to return to the battlefield after being "killed".
@KidoSire not likely, the F-22's thrusters can move to assist it......not to mention we're not seeing the true skill..thats classified and practiced on secret air ranges
@AccordGTR well yeah the F-22 doesn't carry 10 Air to Air Weapons at once lol
@AmFearLiathMor ok your right i'll give ya that, but its suppose to get up quick and fast! VSTOL! thanks to the Brits for letting us have the design
Wrong. The F-15 is just the FIRST US operational fighter to achieve this, not the ONLY one. All it takes is a positive thrust to weight ratio. I've seen the f-15 and 16 both do this, although the 15 was much more impressive. The F-22's T2W is 1.4, to 1 while the f-15's is 1.04 to 1and the f-16's is nearly 2 to 1. So BOTH the f-16 and f-22 could climb faster and accelerate faster than the f-15. And to correct you again, the f-22 does in fact have P&W engines.
No, the F-35 is a Lockheed-Martin but the F-22 is a Lockheed/Boeing
This video proves nothing about TO and climb out by comparison between the 2. It does not even have both birds in frame at the same time, nor does it show the F22 from brake release into the climb out either. This video is broken and edited, it proves exactly nothing, so stop commenting, as its futile.
F-18 FTW
If anyone thinks an f 16 can even compete with a f22 in a climb of any kind needs to pull their head out if their asses.
@P3SuperBee Wrong.
We don't even have a f16 named aggressor. Your data on the f22 kill is not factual or it is incorrect.
It's Lockheed Martin/ Boeing.
Don't bother arguing with the f15 fanboi... though I can't believe someone thinks a cold war fighter could shake a stick at a modern one... you think the airforce is going to spend billions on something that's not better than what they already have?
No contest. I think F-22 costs 10x of F-16. I bet 10 F-16's will beat 1 Raptor. haha
is't lockhead martin?..
I have a feeling F-16 loses, big time
@AmFearLiathMor The Harriers pretty slow man
yes and yes!
ye ye, but f-16 is still in production, f-22... not.
the f-15 does not have a higher ratio. f-15 is 1.04 to 1 and f-22 is 1.4 to 1.
ki legal
@HEDFIRE haha wtf ya I liked it better than F15