I just love Pastor Gary teachings.S0 plain and easy to understand. I hope the people at Corner Stone realize they have no excuse.I listen to one after the other.even in my sleep.
I see this tribulation happening to Christians versus collectively. We "Christians" are the temple of the living God. I am one tried with many undeniable visions and spirits tempting to deceive and pull me away from God. His mercy is enduring, but his sovereignty is true. It's a hard truth that I am facing, because I am perishing, but awesome that repentance is available, if I cleave to his goodness and Holy Spirit. The righteousness is in Jesus and not in works. I rather die (or be killed as my daughter foretold from her dream) because I didn't choose to worship Satan. This message has really blessed me and made me more confident of the calling of God to sanctification. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Pastor G for your thorough teachings! I've done studies with you on Acts, Romans, Revelation, Jude, Philemon, 1st Thessalonians now following on 2nd Thessalonians. Still on Roman's Ch.9 till your next Sabbath service. GOD BLESS YOU , your Family, Church and School! Thank you ! From Sacramento,California
2 thes 2 is clear "our gathering together to him" won't happen until two things happen #1 falling away #2 the man of sin is revealed the context is the Day of Christ not the Day of the Lord, the day of Christ is the rapture, the Day of the lord is wrath... Phil 1:6 seems to prove this Phil 1: 6: being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; so in the above verse the day of Christ must be the rapture because that’s when his working in us is complete
@larriveeman actually it's "the DEDARTURE come first" then the son of predition is revealed. KJV removed the definite article from Departure and changed the meaning of apostasia from "THE Departure" to a falling away.
I just have one question, why are they afraid of the rapture? You can't hop back over verse 2 and try to attach that to the rapture that is found in verse 1. If verse 2 were the rapture, they wouldn't be "troubled/shaken in mind". The rapture is pure bliss and comfort...not something that shaken’s your spirit and troubles you. No christian would be unsettling when thinking about the rapture. So let me ask you, if you say this day of Christ is the rapture, why were they shaken in mind and afraid of it being at hand?
@@James-vz7rq Great point👍verse 5 says he taught them last time and there is no falling away in 1st Thess. Verse 6 says we know who withholdeth the antichrist. Verse 6 it is the mystery of the church working on sin's remedy aka spreading the Gospel as long as HE leteth the HE the Body of CHRIST be taken out of the way.
@@rickhuntling7338 that day of Christ in 2 thess 2 is the day of the Lord. Christ is the Lord. God’s wrath in the end times. 2 Thessalonians 2 by no means says the rapture happens after the antichrist is revealed. It says the day of the Lord ( God's wrath, in the end times won't come until the antichrist is revealed. Paul is asking the Thessalonians for the sake of the rapture not to worry about that day of the Lord. Just because paul uses the same word in different contexts doesn’t mean it’s always the same. Context shows what the word means. Not assumptions. Post tribbers fail to explain why they were afraid of the rapture being at hand. They have to change what the text says and make their own interpretations and assumptions. You must be the most ignorant christian if you’re shaken in mind and troubled when you think that the rapture is at hand. So, if this “day of Christ" was the rapture, their fear would have been that it was a PAST event, but their concern was that the tribulation ("day of Christ") was now present, "AT HAND" something that would take place over a period of time, NOT an immeasurable event that the rapture will be, for the RAPTURE will happen "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye", 1 Cor 15:52.
@@James-vz7rq amen brother. We are at the cusp of the Time of the Gentiles be fulfilled aka Rapture of HIS bride; Lk. 21:24. Our departure to HIS many mansions is the next fulfillment. The sign will be when Israel anexes Jerusalem 100% back into Israel. Today it's still trodden under foot by Islamic State of Jordan.
Pastor Hamrick; This teaching when I am reading it makes me believe that it is saying we WILL be here for the dealing with the Anti Christ ... How am I missing the understanding? Breaking it down thru 2 Thessalonians 2: 1-12 really makes it sound like we will go through it :-( now I am confused
The second coming happens exactly 1260 days after the Antichrist sets himself up in the temple as Christ. Matt 24:36 No Man know the day or the hour. That contradicts what the scripture says unless it is 2 different events.
@@markwhite5926 Actually, Matthew 24:29-31 is the fulfillment of these scriptures: Deut. 30:1-6 Isaiah 11:10-12 Isaiah 27:12-13 Isaiah 43:5-8 Ezekiel 11:17 Jeremiah 31:7-12 Jeremiah 32:37. It’s the Jews being gathered by angels to Jesus in Jerusalem. You have to force replacement theology to believe in the post trib rapture. You basically have to throw away these verses to believe the post trib rapture of the church. The rapture was a mystery. (1 cor 15:51-54)You’re mixing OT prophesy with mystery revealed through Paul
@@James-vz7rq Actually, Matthew 24:29-31 is not the fulfillment of these scriptures. The fulfillment of the scriptures you gave are the Jews coming out of Babylon back to Jerusalem. Matthew 24:31 says; He will send His angels together His elect from one end of heaven to the other. (Not from the Nations to Jerusalem). I like the way Mark states it. Mark 13:27 And then He will send His angels and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven. Mark makes it clear. He says, from the "Earth to Heaven," and not from the Nations to Jerusalem!
If you are truly saved, and the Lord Jesus dwells in your heart by His Holy Spirit, YOU ARE SAVED FOREVER! AND YOU WILL NEVER FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH IN THE LORD!!! IF YOU TRULY ACCEPTED AND INVITED THE LORD JESUS INTO YOUR HEART AND GAVE HIM YOUR LIFE, YOU WILL NEVER RENOUNCE THE LORD...IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE FOR A TRUE BELIEVER TO DO SO AND THUS, FALL AWAY FROM FAITH....And everyone has faith in something or someone and people may have faith in our Savior, on all that He has done for the human race BUT THEY NEVER ACCEPTED THE LORD AS THEIR SAVIOR, AS THEIR LORD, AND, AS THEIR GOD, WHICH IS TO SAY: They were never really and truly SAVED TO GO TO HEAVEN and spend eternity with the Father God and Jesus Christ, THE SON OF GOD.
Hello Pastor, do you think it's true that verse 11 is saying that if someone heard the gospel before the tribulation and rejects it, then they will not be a second chance for them in the tribulation period and God will send them a strong delusion? Thank you.
God knows the heart he will pursue his chosen people and go to great lengths but if we reject him he also will give them what they want. But there will be a lot coming to the Lord during this time most will loose there lives but will serve Jesus in his temple when he comes to take his rightful place to rule.
very strong delusion, great falling away, they repented not (4 times). very few if any. I hope there are some. But my deep study revealed few if any. There is no pre-trib rapture.@@lisaj9466
The rapture cannot be imminent since Paul made it clear that before our gathering together unto him (the rapture) there apostasy must occur and the man of lawlessness be revealed. So how can it be imminent?
I always notice that when the plain meaning of 2nd Thessalonians 2 is confused, it is because there is a belief in a pre-trib rapture. A lot of biblical gymnastics are done in order to confuse what Paul is clearly saying. Christ is not returning until after the falling away and the Anti-Christ appearing in the temple in Jerusalem claiming to be God. Could not be more clear. That has to be confused in order to clear the way to set the stage for a pre-trib rapture.
No matter your position on the rapture, each group can make it fit with scripture. I've even seen recently on a group of people claiming the millennium kingdom has already come and use scripture to prove their point. So when the body of Christ disagrees and accuses each other of not knowing the truth, we look like fools.
In Matthew chapter 24 verses 29 through 31 Jesus Christ tells us that he will come immediately after the tribulation. There's no where in the Bible does it say that the church will be raptured out before the tribulation.
I have a couple of questions. On your phases that are up on the screen. I do not see the two witnesses! When do they come about! What phase? What column? Also hear pastors and people pray against what’s going on in this country! Is it wrong to pray for God’s word to go forward? Is it a sin to pray for God’s word to go forward?
Okay can someone explain. Paul says the rapture (our gathering together unto him) can't happen until the Lawless one is revealed. Then Paul says the rapture happens SO the Lawless one can be revealed. So therefore, the rapture happens before and after the Lawless one is revealed?? Does that make sense? Isn't Paul contradicting himself?
10 Kings is an Oligarchy...Schwab, king Charles and the Pope are pulling that together now...the French and Canadian PMs are part of it too I'm sure, apart from the nameless, faceless ones.
Why is it that God gives Satan so many chances but he will not give man a second chance if he denounces God and Jesus is Lord and Savior I’m so worried about my children
First of all God does not give Satan chances to be redeemed, Satan was a covering cherub at the throne of God. When he Satan fell there were no chances of any redemption for him or the other fallen angels. Hell was made for get the word FOR the devil and his angels before man fell Matt25:41. It's a definet Choice, God gives everyone many chances to accept His Son Jesus and His sacrifice on the cross. You have a Free Will to Believe or Not. If a person continually rejects the Gospel of Christ then the heart begins to harden against God, therefore God will at some point give that person over to unbelief. God does not do this, if you think that it's Blasphemy! The person themselves want to be in unbelief because their heart is in rebellion against the Lord. In Genesis 6:3-5 It say God will not always strive with man, in other words after a certain point in your life when keep pushing the Lord away, He gives you exactly what you want, unbelief, because of your own pride and willful disobedience. Never the less the Lord still gave humanity 120yrs until He brought flood and swept them all away. In Psalm 103:9 He also says He will not always strive with man. Nor will He keep His anger forever. If you come in humble repentance to Lord He will not turn you away. It's a choice every person must make, you or I cannot make this for them. So get those awful ideas out if your mind, God gives everyone chances, we don't know when the Lord who knows the beginning from the end will give them over to their own prideful lusts. That's why we give out the Gospel all the time. There is NO excuse to reject a loving, merciful and gracious God who holds out His arms to welcome all who come to Him with a humble heart and asks forgiveness in Faith believing Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. I hope that answers your question, God cares and loves us so much He gave His only begotten Son to be a sacrifice for you and to pay Your sin debt instead of you!!.
The "Falling Away" is actually a "Departure" as it is translated in the first half dozen English versions ---meaning a PHYSICAL DEPARTURE. The CONTEXT in Thessalonians is The Rapture. The Roman Catholics decided to translate apostasy "falling away" because the Protestants "fell away" from the true faith of the Roman Catholic Church. Shortly after the RC translation the King James version was written and those translators wrote "falling away" because the Roman Catholics had "departed" from the true faith. "Apostasy" in Acts is a "falling away from the faith" as is specifically stated. CONTEXT is key! When the Greek word for "apostasy" is in the verb form in the NT all but twice it is obviously a PHYSICAL DEPARTURE! Thus this verse becomes the most definitive verse in the Bible proclaiming the pre-tribulation Rapture. Please read, "The Falling Away" by Dr. Andrew Woods, pastor of Sugar Land Bible Church --- he has several UA-cam presentations about this verse. Andy wrote 10 reasons why the apostasy is a PHYSICAL DEPARTURE; I have briefly mentioned 2 of the 10 reasons.
Incorrect. Most translations are either "falling away" or "rebellion." You are translating it as a physical departure. That is incorrect. Even the translations that say "apostacy" in 2 Thes 2:3, the footnotes say "rebellion."
@@robertbrown7470 have you read "The Falling Away" by Andy Woods. You can also find several UA-cam videos of Andy teaching about this important verse -- or go to Sugar Land Bible Church/sermons. "Most translations"? Not the earliest English translations! THAT is one of the key points!!
@@ruthburns7201 Read the subject of 2nd Thes 2. That is what Paul is referring to. Can't get around that. What he said in that subject of 2 Thes 2, is not going to happen until the two events that Paul spells out. One of them is crystal clear, the Anti- Christ appearing in the temple claiming to be God. Christ's return AND our gathering together to Him will not happen until these two events. It is obvious and pretty simple and it is straight forward.
@@robertbrown7470 I'm not arguing with you until you read "The Falling Aways" and/or listen to Andy Woods sermons. Why is it that you aren't thrilled to know that the Bible clearly teaches in several texts that the Rapture of the church is before The 7 year Tribulation; especially in this text? There is a crown for those who love His appearing; His coming for the church in the Rapture!!
Interesting scripture In Thessalonians and you know what is restraining HIM so that HE may be revealed at the proper time. The One who now holds HIM back will continue to do so until HE is taken out of the way The He is not the Holy Spirit The HIM and HE is the same person- the anti christ The One who now restrains him is God- in Jesus Daniel 9:24 Seventy sevens are decreed for your people and your holy city to Restrain transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place. Who restrained transgression and put an end to sin- Jesus The devil is thrown down to the earth to roam free and is no longer Restrained as it is said in Daniel 9:24 He is set free to do his mischief. I believe this is the correct interpretation.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him. first part is literal coming.The second part, "our gathering" relates to the rapture. 2Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. (Yep. You missed the rapture, the day of Christ is at hand. You're in the time of "Jacob's trouble"). 2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a "falling away" first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; The problem here is the "falling away". All the old Bibles from Tynedale to the 1599 Geneva use "departing". Only the Bishops bible for some strange reason used "falling away". Then again, the Bishops bible was not well received at the time. So, the 70th week will not start except the rapture comes first. It will not be a secret as the world will be freaked out and in a panic. Someone will have to step up and take control. Do we see where this is going?
Apostasy can also mean departure I feel that explains this scripture better since the lawless one cannot come until the church departed. Apostasy from faith is only addressed later in Timothy's letters.
Matthew 15 the traditions of men for didn't JESUS warn us that certain ones will come and deceive it is by FAITH not works for you call yourselves saints for the scriptures say no man is above any we are equal in the eyes of the most high will you ROB GOD ?
I just love Pastor Gary teachings.S0 plain and easy to understand. I hope the people at Corner Stone realize they have no excuse.I listen to one after the other.even in my sleep.
Thank you for this very clear explanations. God bless Cornerstone chapel.
I see this tribulation happening to Christians versus collectively. We "Christians" are the temple of the living God. I am one tried with many undeniable visions and spirits tempting to deceive and pull me away from God. His mercy is enduring, but his sovereignty is true. It's a hard truth that I am facing, because I am perishing, but awesome that repentance is available, if I cleave to his goodness and Holy Spirit. The righteousness is in Jesus and not in works. I rather die (or be killed as my daughter foretold from her dream) because I didn't choose to worship Satan. This message has really blessed me and made me more confident of the calling of God to sanctification. Thank you for sharing!
God bless your ministry sir.
Thanks Pastor God bless 🙏
Great teaching thanks
Thank you Pastor G for your thorough teachings! I've done studies with you on Acts, Romans, Revelation, Jude, Philemon, 1st Thessalonians now following on 2nd Thessalonians. Still on Roman's Ch.9 till your next Sabbath service. GOD BLESS YOU , your Family, Church and School! Thank you ! From Sacramento,California
if one falls from the faith, one must be in the faith go begin with, losing your salvation is different then willing walking away
Thank you!
My God. The Church is lost.
2 thes 2 is clear "our gathering together to him" won't happen until two things happen
#1 falling away
#2 the man of sin is revealed
the context is the Day of Christ not the Day of the Lord, the day of Christ is the rapture, the Day of the lord is wrath...
Phil 1:6 seems to prove this
Phil 1:
6: being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
so in the above verse the day of Christ must be the rapture because that’s when his working in us is complete
@larriveeman actually it's "the DEDARTURE come first" then the son of predition is revealed. KJV removed the definite article from Departure and changed the meaning of apostasia from "THE Departure" to a falling away.
I just have one question, why are they afraid of the rapture? You can't hop back over verse 2 and try to attach that to the rapture that is found in verse 1. If verse 2 were the rapture, they wouldn't be "troubled/shaken in mind". The rapture is pure bliss and comfort...not something that shaken’s your spirit and troubles you. No christian would be unsettling when thinking about the rapture. So let me ask you, if you say this day of Christ is the rapture, why were they shaken in mind and afraid of it being at hand?
@@James-vz7rq Great point👍verse 5 says he taught them last time and there is no falling away in 1st Thess. Verse 6 says we know who withholdeth the antichrist. Verse 6 it is the mystery of the church working on sin's remedy aka spreading the Gospel as long as HE leteth the HE the Body of CHRIST be taken out of the way.
@@rickhuntling7338 that day of Christ in 2 thess 2 is the day of the Lord. Christ is the Lord. God’s wrath in the end times. 2 Thessalonians 2 by no means says the rapture happens after the antichrist is revealed. It says the day of the Lord ( God's wrath, in the end times won't come until the antichrist is revealed. Paul is asking the Thessalonians for the sake of the rapture not to worry about that day of the Lord. Just because paul uses the same word in different contexts doesn’t mean it’s always the same. Context shows what the word means. Not assumptions.
Post tribbers fail to explain why they were afraid of the rapture being at hand. They have to change what the text says and make their own interpretations and assumptions. You must be the most ignorant christian if you’re shaken in mind and troubled when you think that the rapture is at hand.
So, if this “day of Christ" was the rapture, their fear would have been that it was a PAST event, but their concern was that the tribulation ("day of Christ") was now present, "AT HAND" something that would take place over a period of time, NOT an immeasurable event that the rapture will be, for the RAPTURE will happen "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye", 1 Cor 15:52.
@@James-vz7rq amen brother. We are at the cusp of the Time of the Gentiles be fulfilled aka Rapture of HIS bride; Lk. 21:24. Our departure to HIS many mansions is the next fulfillment. The sign will be when Israel anexes Jerusalem 100% back into Israel. Today it's still trodden under foot by Islamic State of Jordan.
Pastor Hamrick; This teaching when I am reading it makes me believe that it is saying we WILL be here for the dealing with the Anti Christ ... How am I missing the understanding? Breaking it down thru 2 Thessalonians 2: 1-12 really makes it sound like we will go through it :-( now I am confused
The rapture happens at the second coming (Matt. 24:29-31; 1 Cor. 15:23; 1 Thess 4:13-18; 2 Thess 1 & 2 ).
Absolutely, I don't understand how anyone can believe or justify the pre trib rapture view!
I love listening to Gary, but I have to agree with you.
The second coming happens exactly 1260 days after the Antichrist sets himself up in the temple as Christ. Matt 24:36 No Man know the day or the hour. That contradicts what the scripture says unless it is 2 different events.
@@markwhite5926 Actually, Matthew 24:29-31 is the fulfillment of these scriptures:
Deut. 30:1-6
Isaiah 11:10-12
Isaiah 27:12-13
Isaiah 43:5-8
Ezekiel 11:17
Jeremiah 31:7-12
Jeremiah 32:37.
It’s the Jews being gathered by angels to Jesus in Jerusalem.
You have to force replacement theology to believe in the post trib rapture. You basically have to throw away these verses to believe the post trib rapture of the church.
The rapture was a mystery. (1 cor 15:51-54)You’re mixing OT prophesy with mystery revealed through Paul
@@James-vz7rq Actually, Matthew 24:29-31 is not the fulfillment of these scriptures. The fulfillment of the scriptures you gave are the Jews coming out of Babylon back to Jerusalem. Matthew 24:31 says; He will send His angels together His elect from one end of heaven to the other. (Not from the Nations to Jerusalem).
I like the way Mark states it. Mark 13:27 And then He will send His angels and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven. Mark makes it clear. He says, from the "Earth to Heaven," and not from the Nations to Jerusalem!
If you are truly saved, and the Lord Jesus dwells in your heart by His Holy Spirit, YOU ARE SAVED FOREVER! AND YOU WILL NEVER FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH IN THE LORD!!! IF YOU TRULY ACCEPTED AND INVITED THE LORD JESUS INTO YOUR HEART AND GAVE HIM YOUR LIFE, YOU WILL NEVER RENOUNCE THE LORD...IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE FOR A TRUE BELIEVER TO DO SO AND THUS, FALL AWAY FROM FAITH....And everyone has faith in something or someone and people may have faith in our Savior, on all that He has done for the human race BUT THEY NEVER ACCEPTED THE LORD AS THEIR SAVIOR, AS THEIR LORD, AND, AS THEIR GOD, WHICH IS TO SAY: They were never really and truly SAVED TO GO TO HEAVEN and spend eternity with the Father God and Jesus Christ, THE SON OF GOD.
tell that to Adam and Eve
Hello Pastor, do you think it's true that verse 11 is saying that if someone heard the gospel before the tribulation and rejects it, then they will not be a second chance for them in the tribulation period and God will send them a strong delusion? Thank you.
There will be many people saved during the tribulation but most will be beheaded.
God knows the heart he will pursue his chosen people and go to great lengths but if we reject him he also will give them what they want. But there will be a lot coming to the Lord during this time most will loose there lives but will serve Jesus in his temple when he comes to take his rightful place to rule.
very strong delusion, great falling away, they repented not (4 times). very few if any. I hope there are some. But my deep study revealed few if any. There is no pre-trib rapture.@@lisaj9466
The rapture cannot be imminent since Paul made it clear that before our gathering together unto him (the rapture) there apostasy must occur and the man of lawlessness be revealed. So how can it be imminent?
I always notice that when the plain meaning of 2nd Thessalonians 2 is confused, it is because there is a belief in a pre-trib rapture. A lot of biblical gymnastics are done in order to confuse what Paul is clearly saying. Christ is not returning until after the falling away and the Anti-Christ appearing in the temple in Jerusalem claiming to be God. Could not be more clear. That has to be confused in order to clear the way to set the stage for a pre-trib rapture.
No matter your position on the rapture, each group can make it fit with scripture. I've even seen recently on a group of people claiming the millennium kingdom has already come and use scripture to prove their point. So when the body of Christ disagrees and accuses each other of not knowing the truth, we look like fools.
Good points both. We can fellowship even with this disagreement...@@LeighPainter
Not one i lose God doesn.t put your name in the book and he erase out and put it in the book , god doesn.t play whiet salvation
In Matthew chapter 24 verses 29 through 31 Jesus Christ tells us that he will come immediately after the tribulation. There's no where in the Bible does it say that the church will be raptured out before the tribulation.
I have a couple of questions. On your phases that are up on the screen. I do not see the two witnesses! When do they come about! What phase? What column?
Also hear pastors and people pray against what’s going on in this country!
Is it wrong to pray for God’s word to go forward?
Is it a sin to pray for God’s word to go forward?
Okay can someone explain. Paul says the rapture (our gathering together unto him) can't happen until the Lawless one is revealed. Then Paul says the rapture happens SO the Lawless one can be revealed. So therefore, the rapture happens before and after the Lawless one is revealed?? Does that make sense? Isn't Paul contradicting himself?
He explains it towards the end.
@@Billie_Marie_ Well, he tries, anyway.
10 Kings is an Oligarchy...Schwab, king Charles and the Pope are pulling that together now...the French and Canadian PMs are part of it too I'm sure, apart from the nameless, faceless ones.
There is no secret pre-second coming of Christ. Not in the Bible.
Why is it that God gives Satan so many chances but he will not give man a second chance if he denounces God and Jesus is Lord and Savior I’m so worried about my children
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First of all God does not give Satan chances to be redeemed, Satan was a covering cherub at the throne of God. When he Satan fell there were no chances of any redemption for him or the other fallen angels. Hell was made for get the word FOR the devil and his angels before man fell Matt25:41.
It's a definet Choice, God gives everyone many chances to accept His Son Jesus and His sacrifice on the cross. You have a Free Will to Believe or Not. If a person continually rejects the Gospel of Christ then the heart begins to harden against God, therefore God will at some point give that person over to unbelief. God does not do this, if you think that it's Blasphemy! The person themselves want to be in unbelief because their heart is in rebellion against the Lord. In Genesis 6:3-5
It say God will not always strive with man, in other words after a certain point in your life when keep pushing the Lord away, He gives you exactly what you want, unbelief, because of your own pride and willful disobedience. Never the less the Lord still gave humanity 120yrs until He brought flood and swept them all away. In Psalm 103:9 He also says He will not always strive with man. Nor will He keep His anger forever. If you come in humble repentance to Lord He will not turn you away. It's a choice every person must make, you or I cannot make this for them. So get those awful ideas out if your mind, God gives everyone chances, we don't know when the Lord who knows the beginning from the end will give them over to their own prideful lusts. That's why we give out the Gospel all the time. There is NO excuse to reject a loving, merciful and gracious God who holds out His arms to welcome all who come to Him with a humble heart and asks forgiveness in Faith believing Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of
Kings. I hope that answers your question, God cares and loves us so much He gave His only begotten Son to be a sacrifice for you and to pay Your sin debt instead of you!!.
Is "rapture" even biblical?
The "Falling Away" is actually a "Departure" as it is translated in the first half dozen English versions ---meaning a PHYSICAL DEPARTURE. The CONTEXT in Thessalonians is The Rapture. The Roman Catholics decided to translate apostasy "falling away" because the Protestants "fell away" from the true faith of the Roman Catholic Church. Shortly after the RC translation the King James version was written and those translators wrote "falling away" because the Roman Catholics had "departed" from the true faith. "Apostasy" in Acts is a "falling away from the faith" as is specifically stated. CONTEXT is key! When the Greek word for "apostasy" is in the verb form in the NT all but twice it is obviously a PHYSICAL DEPARTURE! Thus this verse becomes the most definitive verse in the Bible proclaiming the pre-tribulation Rapture. Please read, "The Falling Away" by Dr. Andrew Woods, pastor of Sugar Land Bible Church --- he has several UA-cam presentations about this verse. Andy wrote 10 reasons why the apostasy is a PHYSICAL DEPARTURE; I have briefly mentioned 2 of the 10 reasons.
Incorrect. Most translations are either "falling away" or "rebellion." You are translating it as a physical departure. That is incorrect. Even the translations that say "apostacy" in 2 Thes 2:3, the footnotes say "rebellion."
@@robertbrown7470 have you read "The Falling Away" by Andy Woods. You can also find several UA-cam videos of Andy teaching about this important verse -- or go to Sugar Land Bible Church/sermons. "Most translations"? Not the earliest English translations! THAT is one of the key points!!
@@ruthburns7201 Read the subject of 2nd Thes 2. That is what Paul is referring to. Can't get around that. What he said in that subject of 2 Thes 2, is not going to happen until the two events that Paul spells out. One of them is crystal clear, the Anti-
Christ appearing in the temple claiming to be God.
Christ's return AND our gathering together to Him will not happen until these two events. It is obvious and pretty simple and it is straight forward.
@@robertbrown7470 I'm not arguing with you until you read "The Falling Aways" and/or listen to Andy Woods sermons. Why is it that you aren't thrilled to know that the Bible clearly teaches in several texts that the Rapture of the church is before The 7 year Tribulation; especially in this text? There is a crown for those who love His appearing; His coming for the church in the Rapture!!
Interesting scripture
In Thessalonians and you know what is restraining HIM so that HE may be revealed at the proper time.
The One who now holds HIM back will continue to do so until HE is taken out of the way
The He is not the Holy Spirit
The HIM and HE is the same person-
the anti christ
The One who now restrains him is God- in Jesus
Daniel 9:24 Seventy sevens are decreed for your people and your holy city
to Restrain transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
Who restrained transgression and put an end to sin- Jesus
The devil is thrown down to the earth to roam free and is no longer Restrained as it is said in Daniel 9:24
He is set free to do his mischief.
I believe this is the correct interpretation.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him. first part is literal coming.The second part, "our gathering" relates to the rapture.
2Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. (Yep. You missed the rapture, the day of Christ is at hand. You're in the time of "Jacob's trouble").
2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a "falling away" first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
The problem here is the "falling away". All the old Bibles from Tynedale to the 1599 Geneva use "departing". Only the Bishops bible for some strange reason used "falling away". Then again, the Bishops bible was not well received at the time.
So, the 70th week will not start except the rapture comes first. It will not be a secret as the world will be freaked out and in a panic. Someone will have to step up and take control. Do we see where this is going?
more error, taught as truth
This discusses am actual Rapture of The Believers.
Our Scripture texts do not agree.
Apostasy can also mean departure I feel that explains this scripture better since the lawless one cannot come until the church departed. Apostasy from faith is only addressed later in Timothy's letters.
Matthew 15 the traditions of men for didn't JESUS warn us that certain ones will come and deceive it is by FAITH not works for you call yourselves saints for the scriptures say no man is above any we are equal in the eyes of the most high will you ROB GOD ?
If Ptr G is correct about him being a jew my moneys on yuvol noah horare sorry my spelling here
It sounds like you are describing trump, very much so!
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