Andy winning would have been an all-time Survivor disappoint. This episode was epic and your evaluation was up to the task!! Get some rest, final #2 will be wonderful.
My gut tells me Sam is going to win final immunity. He would be smart to take sweet, trusting Teeney. That would leave quite an interesting vote for winner.
I noticed the handwriting of the votes too! A 10 second spoiler, but still surprising that the votes were revealed in that order since they’re usually on top of these things
Hi you two. I'm at your live, unfortunately your show has already passed but I thank you once again. Was watching along, but too much booze and passed! However this fabulous episode retelling and BB/sports recap was magical! 🎉❤
32:39 It’s even weirder than that, because they weren’t there for the pizza reward. That one was part of the Italian reward. So I don’t get why Teeny said Genevieve was lying.
If Rachel had convinced Andy to flip, she could have saved her idol for the final five tribal. Ultimately it didn't matter because she won immunity but it was worth a shot just in case.
@6:53 'sut-faced' Sue omg... reminds me of Charlie Brown character Pig-pen! @15:55 I think those were real tears too. I wish they worked together more like Reba 4 but somehow it didn't align. @18:00 Love Rachel but that did seem harsh of Rachel to say to Andy when in truth the only reason Rachel is still there is because of luck (ie Sol giving her that advantage so she can escape Tuku and bidding on the unknown item burger that had the idol clue in survivor auction.) Without the idol, she would have been voted off. @19:55 Rachel wanted to save her idol for final 5. By using her social skills, she wanted to persuade Andy to vote off Sam with her and Sue (which is majority since she is blocking Sam's vote) so she can then save her idol for final 5. @24:57 I agree. They don't respect Andy. I mean I still don't understand how it's possible not to find any $$ for survivor auction when Sierra found so many! @27:37 that was a SPLASHY move! LOVED IT! @39:20 Teeny doesn't know she's a goat. @45:50 I couldn't believe it either. A part of me wishes Teeny was voted out to give a spot to Genevieve and make the game more exciting for all of us. @52:00 I agree I think Rachel will win too if she makes it to final tribal council! I am very curious to hear Teeny's final tribal plea if she makes it to final 3.
She had to block Sam's vote. Otherwise there was a possibility of splitting the vote to counter the idol. 2 on Sue 2 on Rachel 2 on Andy and you go to rocks. Without Sam, worst case scenario would be 2 on Rachel 1 on Sue and 2 on Andy.
I mean, when talking to a guy like Andy, who's sooo ready to jump into delusional mode, where he's this almighty mastermind, immediately after he's done the bare minimum, you can't give him any kind of a compliment if you're trying to face him with the harsh truth, which is kinda what Rachel is trying to do here. She could try letting him down nicely, saying that the jury might not be able to see "all the moves he's made" but he'll just hear that "he made moves" and he'll be like "yeah I'm killing it, I'll explain it to the jury later" 😅 And sure, part of Rachel's reasoning for targeting Andy here is maybe related to the pitch he sold her, cause she indeed hasn't been working alongside Andy for the majority of the game and who knows, maybe he's not all delusion & no action, maybe there's some truth to that grandiose speech. My guess is, she's spent enough time around him to figure out how he operates and she's also spent enough time with all those people on the jury and has a pretty solid idea of how they perceive him, so she's not believing it completely, but if there's even a 10% chance that what he's saying is true, it makes him a risky choice to drag to the end. The second and more important part of it is that by giving her this "jury management" speech, Andy has actually given her a confirmation of what she probably already assumed about him - he really wants to be respected, he craves admiration and he wants whatever version of his game he has in his mind to be recognized by others. So yeah, regardless of whether he's being delusional or not, if you're Rachel you'd want to give him that recognition. If he wants you to tell him he's a mastermind, you do it, cause that'll make him feel good about his game and he'll be very much inclined to give you his vote. Ofc it's also great when you can stroke his ego while idoling him out of the game 😂 So, ironically, this whole sequence of events had pretty swiftly turned into --> Rachel "jury managing" Andy. Now, my guess is that it wasn't portrayed that way on the show cause Rachel is more than likely our winner and people could interpret this as being "mean", much like they did when she wasn't thrilled about him waking her up and dragging her out of the shelter in the middle of the night to comfort him 🙄- on day one mind you - and you don't want your winner to come off as a "villain". Also, they kinda want to turn Andy's story into a "growth" arc, so it doesn't seem like the show used his very much shaken up emotional state as a comic relief all throughout the season.
Not that I think it should be, but because of them splitting the finale into 2 parts, I have a feeling that the jury vote is going to be a tie between Sam and Rachel. So, in a way, I might be right about no one having a chance to win.
Sue - playing the idol at final 5 for herself? And for what? Is that her winning strategy that she kept the hidden idol for so long? 😅 Teeny - not a chance on winning, if she win for being clueless on what happened for every tribal council, oh well 😅 Sam - meh?!?! After Sierra got voted off, it seems he rode on every person coattails to get where he’s at. 🤷🏽♂️ I’m hoping Rachel will win. She played it very well.
Sue played the idol because it was the last opportunity to play it. Plus she scored points with the jury by showing she was a better player than they thought. The only person who knew about Sue's idol was Caroline. Sam has a shot because the jury likes him. That's important. A bitter jury (not this one) would see him as a viable alternative to Rachel.
20:27 I think her biggest reason was just that she was trying to save her idol in case she needed it at 5.
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100% agree
Lol Rachel gave Dan some competition on her funeral 🤭😂
Andy winning would have been an all-time Survivor disappoint. This episode was epic and your evaluation was up to the task!! Get some rest, final #2 will be wonderful.
My gut tells me Sam is going to win final immunity. He would be smart to take sweet, trusting Teeney. That would leave quite an interesting vote for winner.
I noticed the handwriting of the votes too! A 10 second spoiler, but still surprising that the votes were revealed in that order since they’re usually on top of these things
Hi you two. I'm at your live, unfortunately your show has already passed but I thank you once again. Was watching along, but too much booze and passed! However this fabulous episode retelling and BB/sports recap was magical! 🎉❤
Sarah you look so adorable!!!!i was about jumping out of my chair. when Andy went home❤
32:39 It’s even weirder than that, because they weren’t there for the pizza reward. That one was part of the Italian reward. So I don’t get why Teeny said Genevieve was lying.
If Rachel had convinced Andy to flip, she could have saved her idol for the final five tribal. Ultimately it didn't matter because she won immunity but it was worth a shot just in case.
Agree this was a great episode.
@6:53 'sut-faced' Sue omg... reminds me of Charlie Brown character Pig-pen! @15:55 I think those were real tears too. I wish they worked together more like Reba 4 but somehow it didn't align. @18:00 Love Rachel but that did seem harsh of Rachel to say to Andy when in truth the only reason Rachel is still there is because of luck (ie Sol giving her that advantage so she can escape Tuku and bidding on the unknown item burger that had the idol clue in survivor auction.) Without the idol, she would have been voted off. @19:55 Rachel wanted to save her idol for final 5. By using her social skills, she wanted to persuade Andy to vote off Sam with her and Sue (which is majority since she is blocking Sam's vote) so she can then save her idol for final 5. @24:57 I agree. They don't respect Andy. I mean I still don't understand how it's possible not to find any $$ for survivor auction when Sierra found so many! @27:37 that was a SPLASHY move! LOVED IT! @39:20 Teeny doesn't know she's a goat. @45:50 I couldn't believe it either. A part of me wishes Teeny was voted out to give a spot to Genevieve and make the game more exciting for all of us. @52:00 I agree I think Rachel will win too if she makes it to final tribal council! I am very curious to hear Teeny's final tribal plea if she makes it to final 3.
She had to block Sam's vote. Otherwise there was a possibility of splitting the vote to counter the idol. 2 on Sue 2 on Rachel 2 on Andy and you go to rocks. Without Sam, worst case scenario would be 2 on Rachel 1 on Sue and 2 on Andy.
Oh, and Sam was merely sabotage heartthrob
Andy Bond vilianed himself out of this game. 😂
I mean, when talking to a guy like Andy, who's sooo ready to jump into delusional mode, where he's this almighty mastermind, immediately after he's done the bare minimum, you can't give him any kind of a compliment if you're trying to face him with the harsh truth, which is kinda what Rachel is trying to do here. She could try letting him down nicely, saying that the jury might not be able to see "all the moves he's made" but he'll just hear that "he made moves" and he'll be like "yeah I'm killing it, I'll explain it to the jury later" 😅
And sure, part of Rachel's reasoning for targeting Andy here is maybe related to the pitch he sold her, cause she indeed hasn't been working alongside Andy for the majority of the game and who knows, maybe he's not all delusion & no action, maybe there's some truth to that grandiose speech. My guess is, she's spent enough time around him to figure out how he operates and she's also spent enough time with all those people on the jury and has a pretty solid idea of how they perceive him, so she's not believing it completely, but if there's even a 10% chance that what he's saying is true, it makes him a risky choice to drag to the end.
The second and more important part of it is that by giving her this "jury management" speech, Andy has actually given her a confirmation of what she probably already assumed about him - he really wants to be respected, he craves admiration and he wants whatever version of his game he has in his mind to be recognized by others. So yeah, regardless of whether he's being delusional or not, if you're Rachel you'd want to give him that recognition. If he wants you to tell him he's a mastermind, you do it, cause that'll make him feel good about his game and he'll be very much inclined to give you his vote. Ofc it's also great when you can stroke his ego while idoling him out of the game 😂 So, ironically, this whole sequence of events had pretty swiftly turned into --> Rachel "jury managing" Andy.
Now, my guess is that it wasn't portrayed that way on the show cause Rachel is more than likely our winner and people could interpret this as being "mean", much like they did when she wasn't thrilled about him waking her up and dragging her out of the shelter in the middle of the night to comfort him 🙄- on day one mind you - and you don't want your winner to come off as a "villain". Also, they kinda want to turn Andy's story into a "growth" arc, so it doesn't seem like the show used his very much shaken up emotional state as a comic relief all throughout the season.
Andy is very intelligent, but did not seem to have a good grasp on strategy follow through - consequences of his actions.
Not that I think it should be, but because of them splitting the finale into 2 parts, I have a feeling that the jury vote is going to be a tie between Sam and Rachel. So, in a way, I might be right about no one having a chance to win.
Sue - playing the idol at final 5 for herself? And for what? Is that her winning strategy that she kept the hidden idol for so long? 😅
Teeny - not a chance on winning, if she win for being clueless on what happened for every tribal council, oh well 😅
Sam - meh?!?! After Sierra got voted off, it seems he rode on every person coattails to get where he’s at. 🤷🏽♂️
I’m hoping Rachel will win. She played it very well.
Sue played the idol because it was the last opportunity to play it. Plus she scored points with the jury by showing she was a better player than they thought. The only person who knew about Sue's idol was Caroline.
Sam has a shot because the jury likes him. That's important. A bitter jury (not this one) would see him as a viable alternative to Rachel.