Dear Sam, I'd like to openly celebrate the exceptional entertainment and educational value of your wordsmithery. Your language skills are stupefying, especially since English is not your first language. The rhythmic nature of your verbal expression also makes you a master storyteller. I'm a mental health therapist in the USA and have been a fan of your work since 2008. I'm writing to implore you to ignore the unappreciative naysayers who criticize you for not "getting to the point." You are an artist AND a scientist...and this combination tickles both my funny bone and my cerebral cortex. I love your brilliant 🧠 nuttiness 🌰❣️
It's funny how often the empath Community attacks me and literally calls me evil every time I suggest that it's incredibly narcissistic. I used to think I was an empath and now I laugh at myself
I was going to say the same thing! It’s only happened once- but it’s the one and only time I have every brought up the discussion. 😂😂. All I said was that I had watched a video from Sam Vaknin saying that the term is a misnomer. I didn’t even get to the narcissism part. I think it’s a great point and definitely one I had never heard before. But it is odd to suggest that you have a special skill that every healthy person possesses. It’s kind of like saying you’re a “special breather.” Or a “special chewer.” A “special sitter.” I mean the list goes on :)
@@jennykelter9518 it would be a lot of Labor to fully explain the point in this format. Are you empathetic? Or are you mind reading? Which is essentially making assumptions and not realizing that those assumptions are in fact assumptions. You see someone crying you assume they are sad and you start to feel sad. Is that empathy? What do empaths do when the person says they are not sad but they feel another way? They say that person is lying or in denial in order to defend their own grandiose narrative... you seem very triggered by the accusation. That is because you have built your ego around being an empathic kind caring person. You make the narcissist the bad guy so that you can believe you are the good guy. Codependants hide who they are because they believe they will be rejected for their authentic selves. They validate this persecution by seeking out relationships with people who clearly from the beginning cannot ever appreciate or love the authentic person and create and engage in a shared fantasy with the narcissistic partner. They put the responsibility of their emotional regulation, their choices, their self-esteem, and their future onto the shoulders of another person who was never capable of carrying that weight and then when that person fails to carry the weight the codependent makes it about themselves. This goes a lot deeper but do you see my point? Do you see how easily you feel targeted and persecuted? Do you see the way you are identifying with your victimhood? Do you see the way you are deflecting and projecting? It always takes two to tango and you had a role. But you need to feel that you have control. So you need to figure out what went wrong so that you can try to prevent it from ever happening again because you can't be out of control
All codependents are narcissistic by very definition of codependency but also codependants as in people who consider themselves the opposite of narcissists are just narcissists who top from the bottom
Soooo important to bring light to this subject! Phycology has needed an overhaul for a while now!Especially with the supposed “empaths” movement! They are using that “tittle” as a way to make themselves seem like they care when they don’t! Beware when that word Empath is used because there is a huge misunderstanding of what that truly is, & is not. Thank you 🙏🏻
Im not surprised to know that i display all 7 characteristics of borderline. 44 years old and just now waking up to this and attempting to self help after a 3 and half year relationship with a narcissist. Ive been forced into self realization throughout this ordeal and discovered the extent and affect my childhood trauma has dictated my life unconsciously. Thank you
Professor Vaknin, in many of your videos, you mentioned that narcissists don't heal (due to lack of empathy, hence lack of insight, hence inability to learn etc.). On the other hand, there is high effectiveness of DBT and spontaneous healing in BPD. Having this in mind, how are BPD and NPD essentially the same disorder, just with different emphasis? And can a narcissist eventually heal by becoming borderline and then undergoing DBT (or even heal spontaneously)?
I am very grateful that you share your knowledge with the community. You can not imagine how you have helped us to understand our situations and family. Thank you very much, Mr. Vaknin
It seems to me that the symptoms you mention... Identity confusion, reactivity, novelty seeking, risk taking, hostility... Could all be rational... For the person who has been deceived and gaslighted for years into believing in a false reality... Upon discovering that the person he loved, his role in the world, and his "World", itself... Were all phantasies... Hostility toward deceivers, distrust, not knowing what is really real, and which of his assumptions are built on lies... He would need to take risks and seek novelty IN ORDER to reality-test to re-learn which stoves are hot, which paths really are dead ends, and which opportunities were blocked by deception... It would be like death, in a way... A journey through Hades, emerging like a baby into a new world where he would have to create a brand-new identity... Figure out new social conventions... And then get labeled... Narcissist? Borderline? Schizoid? Psychotic? ... This person is not the problem... The deceit and gaslighting are the problem... Those who do it are the ones who need to be "cured"...
I tend to agree with you. I recognize narcissism is a real thing, but I feel that diagnosis is still not quite refined enough. I feel like the diagnostic conventions are getting to a point where they confuse more than clarify.
So what diagnose do i have if it ain't bpd what i'm dealing with since my begin teenage years? I have all the listed 'symptons' and a dysthyme depression. Could it be complex ptsd?
Dr. Vaknin... Can you answer this for me... My husband took an MMPI2 and the Psychologist stated to him that he was Clinicly Significant (score 66) for Psychopathic Deviant (which would me aspd i believe) He is also scores 77 as Hystrionic. My question is... Q1: Should Clinically Significant as Psychopathic Deviant be a concern for me? My husband has tried to down play it to our counselor that Clinically Significant would not be something that affects him or me in the marriage (37yrs). Q2: if along w 77 for Hystrionic... would those 2 together weigh the scale that he would also be on the high spectrum of Narcissism which l believe was so high scale..but not going over 65. However...his Psychologist also said his mmpi2 was minimally valid because he so understated any his issues...and that if he took the test again he would only go up. My husband hits every single criteria of narcissism in his traits.. No empathy...grandiose...charming...gregatious...cunning...he use to present as overt to me but has seemed very Covertast 10yrs. He was abusing Vicidin in ladt 10yrs, but now cant get it so he started drinking tequila & beer daily. He did not drink the 25yrs he was on Vicodin. He was also sexually abused at 4 & 5 by babysitters husband, his mother was emotionally abandining....snd he grew up 8n very religious home and his step dad was pastor, but we found out in last 10yrs his step father (who was also psychologically abusive to my husband and whole family, even my husbands mother) we found out his step father has has 2 iligitimate daughters...one w my husbands mothers sister & one w his ex wife...these pregnancies happened while he was w my husbands mother. But the step father presented like a powerhouse christian pastor. Definitely needed power of a pulpit to pontificate to others thier sinfulness while he was hiding these 40yr daughters (one being my husband's cousin). His family was very secretive..a d judgement. My husband (in last 5yrs) tried to convince our grown children l was crazy..pitting them against me. However, l also took MMPI2 and came up very low on Narc, Borderline, Bipolar... But l scored hight for PTSD close to complex.. GAD...and developed OCD tendancies...as a measure to control chaos. So again...my question is... Is Clinically Significant 66 on a test that is minimally valid because he so underreported his issues (and test would only go up if took over.. Should our counselor be concerned...or should our counselor cower to my husband's charming demand that he has no issues....only l do. Counselor seems to freeze with regard to my husband - but rakes me over the coals - it seems because l am the easy target to compensate for projecting his frustration in our sessions together. Our counselor gives me material - when my husband is not present to read on subjects Covert Narcissism, sexual addiction, drug addicts...and state to me this is what he sees. Then when my husband is present, and l get tired of being hammered, l will say to counselor, whats the problem...you end up ganging up w him (my husband) and the two of you brow beat me the whole session...and you never bring up his concerns of MMPI2 or the material you keep giving me to read. Then counselor says in my husbands presence, l just gave it to you because you said these are things you feel he does. So it feels the convoluted emotional abuse mingles together w .y husband & counselor. Counselor is about 65 yr male, Christian counselor, who does believe in Genesis 3:16 the word desire....means woman wants to control her husband. Others have come w me & said they think he double talks just to keep us coming for money. I am thinking about moving to my own counselir...but want to know from your expertise if Clinically Significant is an issue at all? And.... if he is also 77 on Histrionic, would Cluster B Narcissism be automatically part of the concern...if he scores higher on the 50 to 65 curve, but not clin sign for narcissism?
Dr. Vaknin, I had a therapist for the past 5-6 months and saw her once a week. She recently called the cops on me and told them that she thought I was going to hurt other people or myself. All of the trust and vulnerability to confide in her has now been taken advantage of and used against me in order to try and further paint me as a dangerous individual. I feel the need to publicly defend myself. I feel therapists abuse their authority and power over their clients who are seeking help
@@nobilitytattoo4043 You don't know anything about the scenario and yet you are already choosing a side? Hypocrisy runs deep in people who condemn others
@@nobilitytattoo4043 Don't take it personal? Sorry to break it to you but life is as personal as it gets. It's borderline defamation. It creates a case against you. But you're speaking out of your ass because you have probably never been in that situation yourself. If you had, you would probably demonstrate a higher level of empathy like someone who has actually been painted in a dark light by someone who you've expressed difficult to voice concerns beyond our control. But you're not man enough to do that. The fact that your username is a vague wannabe meaningful but still meaningless compilation of words that probably says more about you than you have the courage to say about yourself
@@abebber2008 sounds like you’re condemning me for saying it’s the therapist “legal and ethical duty”. That looks a lot like projection of your own hypocrisy. Good luck to you
With therapy "The narcissists becomes borderline" ...at first hopefully. "Not full developed" means maybe some additional... Because they have partial more human thought, idealization orientations, beliefs, rules, teaches, optimal persuations. As well a bit or highly corrupted, but partial necessary self criticism. So they are not so widely occupied, human estranged. The right way to handle the external systemic, the personal, the self realization is such a issue there and request blame, honor, worth, leveling, competition++ concept ideals/progams. I thought, they are too much on a pride trip, that they do not want to be a puppet... so far as well to guilt questions and externalization(hopefully not personal at good ones in a competition up vs devaluing+ rush). Did see it as well in the deep and shallow thoughts, behavior of a kind of a lot people, that BDP is more the partial developed Narcissist in the thought+ school. Was happy to find at University and around people, that tell the same statistic valid appearances, relations. Its simply discovery, science about... Realization, differentiation, negation, validation shouldnt get corrupted since childhood by the environment and oneself. But bad for them at their closer social influences: Often they want to be better, so they choose such undeveloped humans as partners and scream around, if he does undeveloped things or are happy to be better, a leader(!), or run to therapy to be the good one or post ideas, rationalizations as abuse in friend circles, such public for a good status at some for narcissistic thoughts blind(/open), trendy oneside-topic movement. Very n. idealizing, biologism, determinism society, low attention in thoughts versus facts, scientific curiosity, just job/work/income/worthstatus(cult) corrupted.
Fascinating and convincing talk. As an example, in the grand category of "pets", it is useful to distinguish between cats and dogs. On the other hand, North American society is now finding new genders, with their own definitions, communities, flags and letters. I think these distinctions are less useful. Doesn't the word "homosexual" account for most of them? Brain science will have the final word. It's still a developing field, but, in the main, I don't see much value in modern efforts to define new groups. "I'm left-handed, but only when I comb my hair...what is MY unique designation?" Haha! Does anyone remember that Star Trek episode with Frank Gorshin? It encapsulates my point completely. ...So, then, Dr. Vaknin favours generalisation (what makes things similar) over discrimination (what makes things different). I have heard him say this for a long time. A "string theory" of psychology is coming! I'll agree with it so long as treatment of the maladaptive strategies is similar. If treatments are different, then we'll need new diagnostic terms.
I've been diagnosed with mild eupd if there is such a thing as mild,but what you're saying about empathy doesn't resonate with me, I cry at hospital programs because I can see people's pain when someone they love is sick,I never had a mother and my childhood was traumatic, I lost my only sibling to suicide due to it..surely some people with bpd can feel emotions otherwise why do I? Can someone be misdiagnosed with bpd and instead carry pstd from their childhood,it's not me who wants to commit suicide when I'm hurt and sad it's my inner hurting child! I was also diagnosed with anxiety disorder and asd(think they wanted to cover all bases)Sorry for long winded message
You look happier and healthier than ever, Doctor. Whatever you’re doing is working 😌
He was proven right - that's all it's needed. 🙂
Dear Sam, I'd like to openly celebrate the exceptional entertainment and educational value of your wordsmithery. Your language skills are stupefying, especially since English is not your first language. The rhythmic nature of your verbal expression also makes you a master storyteller. I'm a mental health therapist in the USA and have been a fan of your work since 2008. I'm writing to implore you to ignore the unappreciative naysayers who criticize you for not "getting to the point." You are an artist AND a scientist...and this combination tickles both my funny bone and my cerebral cortex. I love your brilliant 🧠 nuttiness 🌰❣️
Fascinating! Thank you for updates! Grateful for your wisdom and that you’re sharing your knowledge with us.
Professor Vaknin, thank you.
It's funny how often the empath Community attacks me and literally calls me evil every time I suggest that it's incredibly narcissistic. I used to think I was an empath and now I laugh at myself
I was going to say the same thing! It’s only happened once- but it’s the one and only time I have every brought up the discussion. 😂😂. All I said was that I had watched a video from Sam Vaknin saying that the term is a misnomer. I didn’t even get to the narcissism part. I think it’s a great point and definitely one I had never heard before. But it is odd to suggest that you have a special skill that every healthy person possesses. It’s kind of like saying you’re a “special breather.” Or a “special chewer.” A “special sitter.” I mean the list goes on :)
@@kindamd9659 misread - -- special shitter 🤣
@@jennykelter9518 I don't think that it's narcissistic to be an empath or to be empathic. I think being a codependent is narcissistic
@@jennykelter9518 it would be a lot of Labor to fully explain the point in this format. Are you empathetic? Or are you mind reading? Which is essentially making assumptions and not realizing that those assumptions are in fact assumptions. You see someone crying you assume they are sad and you start to feel sad. Is that empathy? What do empaths do when the person says they are not sad but they feel another way? They say that person is lying or in denial in order to defend their own grandiose narrative... you seem very triggered by the accusation. That is because you have built your ego around being an empathic kind caring person. You make the narcissist the bad guy so that you can believe you are the good guy. Codependants hide who they are because they believe they will be rejected for their authentic selves. They validate this persecution by seeking out relationships with people who clearly from the beginning cannot ever appreciate or love the authentic person and create and engage in a shared fantasy with the narcissistic partner. They put the responsibility of their emotional regulation, their choices, their self-esteem, and their future onto the shoulders of another person who was never capable of carrying that weight and then when that person fails to carry the weight the codependent makes it about themselves. This goes a lot deeper but do you see my point? Do you see how easily you feel targeted and persecuted? Do you see the way you are identifying with your victimhood? Do you see the way you are deflecting and projecting? It always takes two to tango and you had a role. But you need to feel that you have control. So you need to figure out what went wrong so that you can try to prevent it from ever happening again because you can't be out of control
All codependents are narcissistic by very definition of codependency but also codependants as in people who consider themselves the opposite of narcissists are just narcissists who top from the bottom
Soooo important to bring light to this subject! Phycology has needed an overhaul for a while now!Especially with the supposed “empaths” movement! They are using that “tittle” as a way to make themselves seem like they care when they don’t! Beware when that word Empath is used because there is a huge misunderstanding of what that truly is, & is not.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Jungian therapy has been extremely beneficial in my experience.
Thank you for this video. The clarifications are extremely helpful. Looking forward to more videos to come. All the best
Im not surprised to know that i display all 7 characteristics of borderline. 44 years old and just now waking up to this and attempting to self help after a 3 and half year relationship with a narcissist. Ive been forced into self realization throughout this ordeal and discovered the extent and affect my childhood trauma has dictated my life unconsciously. Thank you
Such a deeper dive.....love it
Professor Vaknin, in many of your videos, you mentioned that narcissists don't heal (due to lack of empathy, hence lack of insight, hence inability to learn etc.). On the other hand, there is high effectiveness of DBT and spontaneous healing in BPD. Having this in mind, how are BPD and NPD essentially the same disorder, just with different emphasis? And can a narcissist eventually heal by becoming borderline and then undergoing DBT (or even heal spontaneously)?
I am very grateful that you share your knowledge with the community. You can not imagine how you have helped us to understand our situations and family. Thank you very much, Mr. Vaknin
You used my favorite word very early in the video - “discombobulated”. Appreciate your explanations intertwined with humor. 🙂
Love you Doc!!!❤️❤️❤️
Brilliant, thanks Prof Sam ,
It seems to me that the symptoms you mention... Identity confusion, reactivity, novelty seeking, risk taking, hostility... Could all be rational... For the person who has been deceived and gaslighted for years into believing in a false reality... Upon discovering that the person he loved, his role in the world, and his "World", itself... Were all phantasies... Hostility toward deceivers, distrust, not knowing what is really real, and which of his assumptions are built on lies... He would need to take risks and seek novelty IN ORDER to reality-test to re-learn which stoves are hot, which paths really are dead ends, and which opportunities were blocked by deception... It would be like death, in a way... A journey through Hades, emerging like a baby into a new world where he would have to create a brand-new identity... Figure out new social conventions... And then get labeled... Narcissist? Borderline? Schizoid? Psychotic? ... This person is not the problem... The deceit and gaslighting are the problem... Those who do it are the ones who need to be "cured"...
Thank you!!
I tend to agree with you. I recognize narcissism is a real thing, but I feel that diagnosis is still not quite refined enough. I feel like the diagnostic conventions are getting to a point where they confuse more than clarify.
No, we have two problems!
Blown away! ❤
Thank you Sam
@drsamvaknin ..if there is a heart button to the videos i would have pressed it a million times to this video!! ❤️x million
Is BDP curable? Is there any hope for borderlines?
So what diagnose do i have if it ain't bpd what i'm dealing with since my begin teenage years? I have all the listed 'symptons' and a dysthyme depression. Could it be complex ptsd?
You are a funny guy!! Thanks for the feedback ; if you ever want the perspective of a gay man with bpd please shoot me a message
Dr. Vaknin...
Can you answer this for me...
My husband took an MMPI2 and the Psychologist stated to him that he was
Clinicly Significant (score 66) for
Psychopathic Deviant
(which would me aspd i believe)
He is also scores 77 as Hystrionic.
My question is...
Q1: Should Clinically Significant as Psychopathic Deviant be a concern for me?
My husband has tried to down play it to our counselor that Clinically Significant would not be something that affects him or me in the marriage (37yrs).
Q2: if along w 77 for Hystrionic...
would those 2 together weigh the scale that he would also be on the high spectrum of Narcissism which l believe was so high scale..but not going over 65.
However...his Psychologist also said his mmpi2 was minimally valid because he so understated any his issues...and that if he took the test again he would only go up.
My husband hits every single criteria of narcissism in his traits..
No empathy...grandiose...charming...gregatious...cunning...he use to present as overt to me but has seemed very Covertast 10yrs. He was abusing Vicidin in ladt 10yrs, but now cant get it so he started drinking tequila & beer daily.
He did not drink the 25yrs he was on Vicodin.
He was also sexually abused at 4 & 5 by babysitters husband, his mother was emotionally abandining....snd he grew up 8n very religious home and his step dad was pastor, but we found out in last 10yrs his step father (who was also psychologically abusive to my husband and whole family, even my husbands mother) we found out his step father has has 2 iligitimate daughters...one w my husbands mothers sister & one w his ex wife...these pregnancies happened while he was w my husbands mother. But the step father presented like a powerhouse christian pastor. Definitely needed power of a pulpit to pontificate to others thier sinfulness while he was hiding these 40yr daughters (one being my husband's cousin).
His family was very secretive..a d judgement.
My husband (in last 5yrs) tried to convince our grown children l was crazy..pitting them against me.
However, l also took MMPI2 and came up very low on Narc, Borderline, Bipolar...
But l scored hight for PTSD close to complex..
GAD...and developed OCD tendancies...as a measure to control chaos.
So again...my question is...
Is Clinically Significant 66 on a test that is minimally valid because he so underreported his issues (and test would only go up if took over..
Should our counselor be concerned...or should our counselor cower to my husband's charming demand that he has no issues....only l do.
Counselor seems to freeze with regard to my husband - but rakes me over the coals - it seems because l am the easy target to compensate for projecting his frustration in our sessions together.
Our counselor gives me material - when my husband is not present to read on subjects Covert Narcissism, sexual addiction, drug addicts...and state to me this is what he sees.
Then when my husband is present, and l get tired of being hammered, l will say to counselor, whats the problem...you end up ganging up w him (my husband) and the two of you brow beat me the whole session...and you never bring up his concerns of MMPI2 or the material you keep giving me to read. Then counselor says in my husbands presence, l just gave it to you because you said these are things you feel he does.
So it feels the convoluted emotional abuse mingles together w .y husband & counselor.
Counselor is about 65 yr male, Christian counselor, who does believe in Genesis 3:16 the word desire....means woman wants to control her husband.
Others have come w me & said they think he double talks just to keep us coming for money.
I am thinking about moving to my own counselir...but want to know from your expertise if Clinically Significant is an issue at all?
And.... if he is also 77 on Histrionic, would Cluster B Narcissism be automatically part of the concern...if he scores higher on the 50 to 65 curve, but not clin sign for narcissism?
wow
How treatable is BPD ?
Dr. Vaknin, I had a therapist for the past 5-6 months and saw her once a week. She recently called the cops on me and told them that she thought I was going to hurt other people or myself. All of the trust and vulnerability to confide in her has now been taken advantage of and used against me in order to try and further paint me as a dangerous individual. I feel the need to publicly defend myself. I feel therapists abuse their authority and power over their clients who are seeking help
She has a ethical and legal duty. Don’t take it personal
@@nobilitytattoo4043 And who are you to be a judge?
@@nobilitytattoo4043 You don't know anything about the scenario and yet you are already choosing a side? Hypocrisy runs deep in people who condemn others
@@nobilitytattoo4043 Don't take it personal? Sorry to break it to you but life is as personal as it gets. It's borderline defamation. It creates a case against you. But you're speaking out of your ass because you have probably never been in that situation yourself. If you had, you would probably demonstrate a higher level of empathy like someone who has actually been painted in a dark light by someone who you've expressed difficult to voice concerns beyond our control. But you're not man enough to do that. The fact that your username is a vague wannabe meaningful but still meaningless compilation of words that probably says more about you than you have the courage to say about yourself
@@abebber2008 sounds like you’re condemning me for saying it’s the therapist “legal and ethical duty”. That looks a lot like projection of your own hypocrisy. Good luck to you
With therapy "The narcissists becomes borderline" ...at first hopefully.
"Not full developed" means maybe some additional...
Because they have partial more human thought, idealization orientations, beliefs, rules, teaches, optimal persuations.
As well a bit or highly corrupted, but partial necessary self criticism.
So they are not so widely occupied, human estranged.
The right way to handle the external systemic, the personal, the self realization is such a issue there and request blame, honor, worth, leveling, competition++ concept ideals/progams.
I thought, they are too much on a pride trip, that they do not want to be a puppet... so far as well to guilt questions and externalization(hopefully not personal at good ones in a competition up vs devaluing+ rush).
Did see it as well in the deep and shallow thoughts, behavior of a kind of a lot people, that BDP is more the partial developed Narcissist in the thought+ school. Was happy to find at University and around people, that tell the same statistic valid appearances, relations. Its simply discovery, science about...
Realization, differentiation, negation, validation shouldnt get corrupted since childhood by the environment and oneself.
But bad for them at their closer social influences: Often they want to be better, so they choose such undeveloped humans as partners and scream around, if he does undeveloped things or are happy to be better, a leader(!), or run to therapy to be the good one or post ideas, rationalizations as abuse in friend circles, such public for a good status at some for narcissistic thoughts blind(/open), trendy oneside-topic movement.
Very n. idealizing, biologism, determinism society, low attention in thoughts versus facts, scientific curiosity, just job/work/income/worthstatus(cult) corrupted.
Fascinating and convincing talk. As an example, in the grand category of "pets", it is useful to distinguish between cats and dogs. On the other hand, North American society is now finding new genders, with their own definitions, communities, flags and letters. I think these distinctions are less useful. Doesn't the word "homosexual" account for most of them? Brain science will have the final word. It's still a developing field, but, in the main, I don't see much value in modern efforts to define new groups. "I'm left-handed, but only when I comb my hair...what is MY unique designation?" Haha! Does anyone remember that Star Trek episode with Frank Gorshin? It encapsulates my point completely. ...So, then, Dr. Vaknin favours generalisation (what makes things similar) over discrimination (what makes things different). I have heard him say this for a long time. A "string theory" of psychology is coming! I'll agree with it so long as treatment of the maladaptive strategies is similar. If treatments are different, then we'll need new diagnostic terms.
I love you Sam 🫶🏻
Half-baked narcissists. Bingo.
@drsamvaknin Where is your Mini gone? Is that Donald duck you have now?
Forgive them they know not what they do 😁
I've been diagnosed with mild eupd if there is such a thing as mild,but what you're saying about empathy doesn't resonate with me, I cry at hospital programs because I can see people's pain when someone they love is sick,I never had a mother and my childhood was traumatic, I lost my only sibling to suicide due to it..surely some people with bpd can feel emotions otherwise why do I? Can someone be misdiagnosed with bpd and instead carry pstd from their childhood,it's not me who wants to commit suicide when I'm hurt and sad it's my inner hurting child! I was also diagnosed with anxiety disorder and asd(think they wanted to cover all bases)Sorry for long winded message
I use cannabis oil to help manage my emotions and also my ms I was diagnosed with in 2019, I was diagnosed with eupd,asd anxiety disorder 2014
You could also look into a C-PTSD assessment/diagnosis.