Hey guys, Here is the entire playlist of Apache RR310 with Mileage test, Heating test, Drag, reviews and lot more. ua-cam.com/play/PLty6SarJsWST52uzAOudn3FwnqEVebTpu.html
I'll stick with CBR250R ... All high quality Japanese original parts where it matters. The way it's engineered, the slick gears, road presence, practicality, refinement make it a compelling reason not to move away. Who gives Nissin calipers with C-ABS at this price point. The second thing is CBR is not expensive to maintain in the long run. At the end of the day you go for a long drive without worrying about the bike breaking down...
Lack of Pillion comfort is a deal breaker. Why make an affordable 300cc and kill the pillion seat just because everyone in the market is doing it? Its not like the Apache rr310 is 1000cc, or a track only bike. Seriously! how many of us even go to ride on tracks? People who ride tracks can afford modifying the vehicle. Why fuck up with a serious sales advantage of having room for pillion?
then buy java fool track bikes with that raised back has a special beauty than your uncles bullet or java mostly they are aerodynamic for maximizing top end a 150c r15 easily beats 350c bullet now what?
@@neggas- I actually went for a test ride today. They said they won't give a test ride as long as I don't book a bike. What is the point of a test ride then
Here is my take, Duke 390 - This bike enough power to point your wheel to the sky in every gear, the power delivery and throttling like its either ON or OFF, jumping like an aggresive bull even with little throttle, best suited only for highways, real pain for city commuting @20-60kmph never pick this bike, it wants to pull and lift in every gear even from 20kmph @3rd gear and heats up like an oven. Also you feel like you are sitting on it like a passanger and the machine is controlling you than it should be like you should be the one in control. Dominar - Takes only the good bits from Duke and leaving the bad things behind, you can commute on this at 20kmph or go hoon it at 130-140 on highways, though little bit on heavier side, but this weight gives you enough confidence to flick and turn and brake hard without having to worry about the rear losing grip. An all rounder if you want best of everything. CBR 250 - The best bike suited for all occasions, has adequate performance for everything from highway cursing to everyday commuting though loses steam after 130+. But Honda has killed the product with it's absurd pricing, zero updates to engine along with pathetic servicing and parts availability has gotten worse here in Bangalore. Apcahe 310 - Brilliant product but getting runied by TVS sales support, high waiting period, lack of proper communication from showroom and factory people, overpriced by 30-40k just because it has BMW engine, increased price twice already, now at 2.8L OTR Bangalore! Not worth it! engine lacks a bit refinement in the 1st bacthes and engine also lacks low end grunt like the Duke's and Dominar's, you really need to downshift if you have to get into the powerband. Suited for someone coming from Yamaha FZ family for the not so power hungry smooth crusing riding style at high gears. Wild card - Yamaha R3! (Yes, now with ABS). Priced at 4.5OTR at higher side expensive by 1.5L , but has the best of everything from the above 4 bikes, you can commute on this at 20kmph and blast past 150+ on highways, power from Duke, handling braking of the Dominar, engine refinement gearing high revving engine from CBR, build quality of engine and bike with status symbol of Yamaha from the Apache 310/GS310. And the amazing twin pot engine and it's sound. Yes it's expensive by 1.5L compared to all bikes, but for someone whose buying on EMI like me, a monthly difference of 2K in EMI is nothing compared to the joy of riding the R3. Moreover this bike will keep you happy and serve you for 5+ years without getting bored. Conclusion - If you are on budget, get the Dominar, if you want the best of everything pick the R3 if can afford extra 2-3K on EMI's you will not regret it trust me I am telling it with my 8years of biking experience.
Thanks brother in advance...yes brother i will..iam gonna purchase within 5 months infact my first motorcycle...CBR was my dream bike since 2012..and i got disappointed when it was discontinued and finally they came with bullet proof reliable engine..who cares for latest gen tech..TVS is good but it wont be useful for me as i like sedate riding and enjoy to ride
CBR engine is gem. It's power is so linear and amazing. Bomb proof reliability and robust. If 250RR is considered or compared to other bikes they All look Pale.
220F, CBR-250R, Karizma fall into some of the best bikes in India in terms of seating comfort for both pillion and rider, that is what I've perceived from reading multiple hundreds of pages on forums. My heart has been on the RTR 200 since the start because the power it provides still feels more than enough to me and the bike is almost flawless except the fact that TVS screwed it with stupid(I know it is my opinion and the word "stupid" I use because it only lacks one of my needs) sporty style pillion seat which is not comfortable for long rides, same they did with RR. I think we may have reached to the point where bikes manufacturers may not go back to traditional family suitable seatings, may be because of aerodynamics efficiency and various technical shits. I think we may be living in the last era of comfy pillion seat, which seems scary to me or may be I am paranoid for nothing. One thing is for sure; just the latest features and raw power and looks to some extent don't matter to me anymore, they can add military grade satellite connection with built in maps and GPS, high precision low latency environmental sensors and 50000mAh dedicated mobile charger and shits with their instrument console but if they don't provide comfy seats for both pillion and rider, the bike will remain meh for me. This is the reason both my mind and heart are slowly going toward CBR-250R. CBR250R is literally an anomaly among so called tourers or sport tourers which actually is a perfect in all of what I need. It has nice mileage/average. No doubt it has been reliable and in my opinion all you need are tachometer, speedometer and fuel level indicator period to explore unlimited nature though unlimited roads, which it obviously provides. Why ? Because I will have a smartphone for those worthless gimmicks and a power bank as well. Though you could always go for a high amp expensive lithium based battery for to improve charging capability without having to worry about the EFI's dependability on proper voltage which is indeed a critical thing for FI powerd bikes, well that is the context for other days. Never mind! Also I don't know why nobody talked about that the brakes of CBR have been known to provide a excellent confidence in all scenarios, hence the best breaking system is still with the CBR in my opinion, RR 310 has a long way to prove that since it is a new bike. Not saying RR 310 won't be good, but most people should not go for any new bike for 2-3 years and let the manufacturer response with improved batches. Call me old school but at least this is what I feel about a bike. Unless your sole intention is to only do R&D and learn about new things which I respect no doubt, I don't wanna be a one of those early adapters aka guinea pigs for them companies. Nice review as always!
Nicely put Sumit.....i will tell this again and again in every platform ....a middle class 40 plus person who cant afford a Triumph Tiger but still roams around the country a lot with a pillion every time, cbr was the perfect upgrade from karizma and it still is even after 5 years.....
When compairing CBR250R with RR310, one important factor that is often overlooked is their fuel tank capacity. RR310 has got 11lt. tank while 250R has got 13 lt. fuel tank. Now in a carburated bike you could use the entire capacity, but in a bike equipped with fuel injection, you need atleast 3 lt. fuel at all times, to keep your FI pump cool. Otherwise it could just get fried and replacement is very expensive. So that means 8 lts. usable fuel capacity for RR310, while it is still 10lts. in case of 250R. Now if TVS intended RR310 to be an out and out track tool like RC200/390 then its 8lt. usable fuel tank capacity wont be bad. But...... and its a big but...TVS intends RR310 as a do it all sport bike which can commute, do track days, touring etc. just like CBR250R. And here the 8lt. usable limit just sucks. And those looking for touring(solo or with pillion) forget about the range in league of CBR250R. That is why I believe 2018 CBR250R is still very relevant and is still India's most versatile lightweight supersport bike. @Strell Your thoughts on the above comment.
Your thoughts are cent percent correct. Tank range is low with RR. But based on the tours that I have done in India, a tank range of 250km is not because, you will see a fuel station within this limit ( Taking the assumption that it's a complete road tour, than offroads) One cannot consider this motorcycle for off roads, personally I felt difficulty taking it off road and it takes lot of time to cover distances. And finally, I am sorry to say a truth based on my experience 😊, this wasn't handling well as a track moyorcycle. It's aerodynamic, but need to work on weight distribution which plays a big role on taking corners. ( I don't have experience in track. But love riding mountain roads)
Man i loved ur review. U gave enough info which i was in need. M going to buy this bike in a month or so but was confused with CBR and RR, cuz i never rode a Sports Bike before always drove a car and in bike i had Splendor Bullet or Pulsar 180 once and was so confused between CBR and 310. Cuz 310 is such an eye candy and i was like am i making a mistake on choosing a bike based on it's looks but ur review helped a lot and m all cleared out of my cunfusion. Thanks a lot bro. BTW ur helm is sick m not gonna wear one cuz i tie turban, but if i had to i would have gone for the same u got. Good review and keep up the good work. Thank you.
Great work bro! Maintain this way and you'll succeed big levels. By the way, a small suggestion from me as a long time follower of your channel, pls rope your bag to the seat. Yes it is a new bike but for a long ride, never wear backpacks.
Thanks a lot for your care Prashanna. I didnt meant to tour on that day, but eventually rode the motorcycle all the way doing the mileage test. Generally I dont wear a back pack while touring. Understand the risk :)
I don't have any problems with cbr250r cos I own it my Apache rr310 is coming next month.. I like the gear you use and would like to know more... Can u make a video about the gear it would be great...🤘🤘✌✌
Hey strell - if you're taking cbr250R as benchmark for refinement - which is one is closer to it ? duke 390 or RR310. Taking into consideration the recent hike of 8k which narrows down the difference between rr310 and duke 390 to 16K, which is the better option to chose...
I dont know why but i love the cbr over any other 250-300 segment bikes. Maybe because its on my heart and mind since 2011.. By the way bro did you spot any 2018 cbr in bangalore.. it may take ages to reach here in kerala i guess.. Nice video brotha
CallmeShawz yes when i called up the showroom guys they also told the same.. They dont have any info till date. But the bikes have arrived in North india i guess
Jay Mero desh NEPAL I noticed most of the comments mention about Cbr refinement and quality which is true. But as u said Apache 310 has a BMW engine which cannot be underestimated.
@Strell It's been two years. Do you till think an RR 310 is a good buy? Especially I'm looking to ride in the city mostly and some light touring on the weekends. Wondering if I should go for a H'ness or RR310
Hai bro.. I have budget of around 2 Lakhs and looking for a bike for daily commuting and tourer on weekends.. Which bike would you suggest.. If it's CBR 250R whether ABS or Non ABS.. Please reply me
I believe it is not as reliable and stress free as honda? What do you think? I own a tvs ntorq and yes I am having some problems. I previously owned honda dio and it had no problems at all.
I didn't feel cbr is underpowered when compared to dominar. As dominar has very good low end tends to make us believe that cbr is slow. Surely domi has more grunt but aside from touring view i didn't like the handling of Domi
Hi strell, i read and heard that for rr310 there are recently an ecu upgrade, chain roller upgrade to soften chain noise and cushion on the visor to control rattle. Did your friend happened to get all these? Any chance of we getting ur latest review on rr310?
I'm a Karizma R owner, and I've seen many viewers here who favour CBR 250R as the perfect bike to upgrade from the Karizma. l was thinking of of doing the same, but the Apache RR310 seems too good to resist. That doesn't mean my dilemma has ended. The uncertainty is further aggravated by the fact that the RR310 isn't available in my city, Trivandrum. I need to buy from Kochi. So I decided to settle for the CBR, but this video is now making me change my mind. Power is important for me. The CBR 250R doesn't offer much of a power difference from the Karizma. 26.5 bhp (CBR) is just around 7 bhp more than the 19 bhp for the Karizma. If pillion comfort is all I need, I don't need to upgrade from the Karizma. The reason I'm uphrading is for the power and killer looks. From that perspective, the RR 310 is the winner.
Have heard everywhere that RR310 vibrates like a typical Apache, how does that that bother during touring? And moreover how much is the extent of the vibes?
Spare parts are bit costlier in 310rr Especially it's sprocket cost 7000rs. Where in cbr 2300rs something I can buy cbr sprocket 3times. But still is it a worth to buy 310rr?
Strelly, Its high time I dont know when am gonna buy CBR soon by selling off my 220F, Rx135 and Shogun.. u r tempting me and I like it that way 😁, Peace ✌🏻
I felt CBR leans over the corner better than RR310 with right mods (Grippy tyres+harder front suspension). The weight distribution of RR310 didnt felt transparent to me. Felt a little bit heavy while taking it back from corners.
Strell I think we must not forget the fact that RR310 was conceived as a naked bike first(G310R), and from there onwards TVS started their work. So may be the front/rear weight distribution and mass centralisation may not suit a faired bike. Who knows? On the other hand, the trellis twin spar diamond frame, to proper front rear weight distribution, to rear pro-link suspension was FULLY developed for a full cowl 250cc sport bike from Honda. That's why CBR250R has such wonderful mass centralisation. And I agree, with better tyres and a thicker grade fork oil for stiffer forks, CBR could be a revealation in terms of cornering. PS: Look at the rear monoshock placement of both RR310 and CBR250R. CBRs is so close to engine that you cant see it from outside, while Apache RR310's is in a more conventional place, in front of the rear tyre. Thanks Strell for your inputs and honest review. Much appreciated bro.
That major draw back of pillion comfort made me go for cbr 250r 2018. Cbr 250r is a great machine lot of say that cbr 250r is not updated in terms of engine. All I can say is it has proven all this years and doesn't require an update im satisfied with 2018 version. The only thing for people who are cursing honda for an update is they should hold on their heart for cbr 250rr which may cost again around 3 to 3.5l
Honda has a history of engineering and refinement thus reliable in mind for common people. TVS in high end motorcycles is a new thing without underestimating TVS.
please reply me i wanna take a new bike and my opinion are rr310 and cb300r and I'll use it as my daily commute home to college and college to home and some short ride should i go with new fantom black rr310 or cb300r I'm upgrading from Scoty i wanna know you opinion your subscriber from Nepal
Its a personal choice bro. Duke 390 = Brutal power. Amazing ride experience in city and small tours. Love of speed and acceleration :) RR310 = MAkes to be a good tourer. Slightly more premium feel.
Bro Pls tell me about the maintenance of the two motorcycle and I cannot compromise the CBR 250r with rr 310 and am under the big confusion of which motorcycle to buy
I was planning to buy the cbr 250r when they relaunched it earlier this year. But I am not pleased with the new colors & graphics that honda offered. Should I wait for the the next year to get new colors or go with an apache rr310 this year?
Hey man..!! You did quite well with comparison points....& M glad that you also considered points which were like... rarely discussed in other forums.... I love the CBR...n Love the RR too...& Since i want it only for touring purpose + pinion comfort + a motorcycle which can comfortably cruise 120kmph... What are your views on the New Himalayan...?
Strell thanks mate.... Should i consider Mojo...? I have taken test ride of all the bikes i have mentioned and the dominar too.. i felt the duke and yamaha to be doing justice.. dominar though was nice but its longevity is questionable...
I am not sure about the maintenance part of Mojo. Otherwise its a brilliant motorcycle for long distances. The only problem with the Duke is that, it may have some quality issues. Sometimes may not.
i more thing i hv experienced, the headlight of CBR is too good mann..... its so bright... i always compare it wid cars while riding... its tht much bright... agree CBR riders?
Bro u being owner of CBR250R for quite long time now, I just wanna know have you faced any service and spare parts issues?? Most of CBR owners I came across have this particular grief that CBR has spares issues, availability isnt that great. What's your views regarding this.
You are absolutely right, Honda make fool of us, they always sell older product compared to other countries. I think these days India Manufacturers are doing better than others. You look at Tata, Ather Energy, Mahindra, they all are giving much valued product than other companies.
Hi bro. Right now I was with Gixxer 2015 model. I was planning to replace my bike with 250r. Just tell me one thing. Is there any problem in gear shift. Because my Gixxer gear is soo hard that my shoes is getting damage and my height is 6 feet, should I need to face back pain problem in 250r. What's the maintenance cost if I go for paid and free service. Please respond me.
Strell 👍 Any time lines bro? How long do we need to wait? There is one guy from Rajasthan who has draged a Baby Blade with RR310(RR310 obviously won), but the video quality left a lot to be desired☹ Anyways, my suggestion to you would be to do a very long drag where we get to see both their maximum speeds. Also make sure that CBR rider absolutely lays down on the tank to maximize its aerodynamics. Best of luck...
Not really bro. My friend is pretty much happy with the bike. He is going city rides and going lot of highways too. Just take the bikes to service centre, it seems like something needs to be fixed.
Bro is it really worth buying a new CBR250R? I was thinking more like buying a 2nd hand. I am in a lot of confusion. My options are like 1. 2nd hand CBR250R 2. Dominar 400 3. Yamaha R3(convinved by a friend xD) 3. Apache RR310 I like what CBR can offer. But i am quite disturbed by the fact that this engine will be 10 years old when my bike is just 3 years old(xD) . Could you help me out here? I need basically for daily commute as well occassional touring :)
If money is not a problem for you and you are a motorcycle enthusiast , then the third option is an Usain bolt. No look back. Otherwise here is my take. 1. 2nd hand CBR => Need to make sure that all are good and the reason for selling. Good for city and heavy touring. 2. Dominar400 => Most economic tourer available in India. Good city bike too. But need to maintain well. 3. R3 => Love of enthusiast. Good city motorcycle with aggressive seating. Moderate tourer. High maintenance cost when compared to others. 4. RR310 => Again tourer and good city motorcycle.
Hi strell! One straight question...if I buy it will be my first bike in life and I will use for daily computing (office and home)...so which one is best : 310 RR or Dominar. Need an opinion Strell!
RR310 has much sportier seating position compared to Dominar. Dominar will be much more comfortable for city, if you are living in a city with lot of traffic congestion. Otherwise any of them will suites you.
Awesome Strell! I really appreciate your reply! I live in Hyderabad and yes it is sportier and I fell in love with it! I may go will 310RR! Kudos bro! And your videos are FAB! Keep rocking and take care man!
dude do not buy both ..For Durabality ,reliability CBR250R at any time .. For only city ride buy scooter sir please dont show off and waste bikes ,it would be a shame buying these bikes not going for touring..
How serious are the vibrations on this motorcycle? Does the bikes acceleration feel smooth even when it goes past 120kmph or does it show some resistance?
The vibrations are not much bothering if you are peacefully cruising. But it starts getting irritating when you climb up the red line, especially I felt that on 3rd and 4th gear. The acceleration is smooth even after 120. It doesnt go sluggish or stressed.
Apache is much refined and fun to ride, from a sports motorcyclist point of view. One will be able to tour on RR310 because of its better refinement. Choose Dominar when you want pillion comfort or more luggage capacity.
Well said...Well laid out...Cant compare both since both stands apart in its own ways but yea the Apache RR310 can ve said the next level of touring with all those fancy cluster and looks...Honda should have made some major changes too..But yea I do love these both machines...Never got a chance to try the Apache RR310...Btw a quick doubt 38km/ltr in highways???is it possible...like under what avg speed you obtain these...
70 to 80km/hr avg speed right..Cz at cruising speed of 100 to 110km/hr i do get a milege of 29 to 32km/ltr...🤔🤔🤔...Well great video buddy...Keep uploading fantastic content and Ride safe..Peace✌
CBR is for traditional Honda fans and RR310 is for people who want more excitement in riding..Honda may be good but at times they bore riders being too reliable..just my thought
Can we adopt Benelli exhaust to rr310 and cbr250. Why can't you do a special video about Benelli exhaust. In a video u have already mentioned that like a funny way " I think Benelli have 2 engineers one for the motorcycle and the other for the exhaust".
Hey guys,
Here is the entire playlist of Apache RR310 with Mileage test, Heating test, Drag, reviews and lot more.
ua-cam.com/play/PLty6SarJsWST52uzAOudn3FwnqEVebTpu.html
Strell please share the helmet details u r wearing, I need to buy for my CBR250r.. please
Strell Hey please review the newly launched 2018 Yamaha r3...
Please review the new fzs 2018 dual disk model .
Strell price difference is just 15 to 20 k ahh ??
Hrishik, CBR ABS onroad for 2.4L and RR310 for 2.6L in Bengaluru.
A big 🙌🏻 to people who all loves CBR #Myfamily #CBR
I'll stick with CBR250R ... All high quality Japanese original parts where it matters. The way it's engineered, the slick gears, road presence, practicality, refinement make it a compelling reason not to move away. Who gives Nissin calipers with C-ABS at this price point. The second thing is CBR is not expensive to maintain in the long run. At the end of the day you go for a long drive without worrying about the bike breaking down...
Lack of Pillion comfort is a deal breaker. Why make an affordable 300cc and kill the pillion seat just because everyone in the market is doing it?
Its not like the Apache rr310 is 1000cc, or a track only bike. Seriously! how many of us even go to ride on tracks? People who ride tracks can afford modifying the vehicle.
Why fuck up with a serious sales advantage of having room for pillion?
then buy java fool
track bikes with that raised back has a special beauty than your uncles bullet or java
mostly they are aerodynamic for maximizing top end
a 150c r15 easily beats 350c bullet
now what?
Bang on!
@@neggas- A ducati supersports s has got a better pillion seat than rr 310 and it is a 937cc v twin. Your point???
@@anuranpandit9512 then dont buy lmao
@@neggas- I actually went for a test ride today. They said they won't give a test ride as long as I don't book a bike. What is the point of a test ride then
Here is my take,
Duke 390 - This bike enough power to point your wheel to the sky in every gear, the power delivery and throttling like its either ON or OFF, jumping like an aggresive bull even with little throttle, best suited only for highways, real pain for city commuting @20-60kmph never pick this bike, it wants to pull and lift in every gear even from 20kmph @3rd gear and heats up like an oven. Also you feel like you are sitting on it like a passanger and the machine is controlling you than it should be like you should be the one in control.
Dominar - Takes only the good bits from Duke and leaving the bad things behind, you can commute on this at 20kmph or go hoon it at 130-140 on highways, though little bit on heavier side, but this weight gives you enough confidence to flick and turn and brake hard without having to worry about the rear losing grip. An all rounder if you want best of everything.
CBR 250 - The best bike suited for all occasions, has adequate performance for everything from highway cursing to everyday commuting though loses steam after 130+. But Honda has killed the product with it's absurd pricing, zero updates to engine along with pathetic servicing and parts availability has gotten worse here in Bangalore.
Apcahe 310 - Brilliant product but getting runied by TVS sales support, high waiting period, lack of proper communication from showroom and factory people, overpriced by 30-40k just because it has BMW engine, increased price twice already, now at 2.8L OTR Bangalore! Not worth it! engine lacks a bit refinement in the 1st bacthes and engine also lacks low end grunt like the Duke's and Dominar's, you really need to downshift if you have to get into the powerband. Suited for someone coming from Yamaha FZ family for the not so power hungry smooth crusing riding style at high gears.
Wild card - Yamaha R3! (Yes, now with ABS). Priced at 4.5OTR at higher side expensive by 1.5L , but has the best of everything from the above 4 bikes, you can commute on this at 20kmph and blast past 150+ on highways, power from Duke, handling braking of the Dominar, engine refinement gearing high revving engine from CBR, build quality of engine and bike with status symbol of Yamaha from the Apache 310/GS310. And the amazing twin pot engine and it's sound. Yes it's expensive by 1.5L compared to all bikes, but for someone whose buying on EMI like me, a monthly difference of 2K in EMI is nothing compared to the joy of riding the R3. Moreover this bike will keep you happy and serve you for 5+ years without getting bored.
Conclusion - If you are on budget, get the Dominar, if you want the best of everything pick the R3 if can afford extra 2-3K on EMI's you will not regret it trust me I am telling it with my 8years of biking experience.
Kiran What's the emi on r3 every month ?
Bro have you thought about service cost of the R3? All its parts directly come from thailand
You forgot to mention ninja 300
Thanx
my...... my own pillion 😂😂😂👍
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East or west i will go for CBR 250r 2018,a Japanese mammoth..refined and reliable engine
Cheers :)
Maintain it well, you could cross 1 lakh kms on it.
Thanks brother in advance...yes brother i will..iam gonna purchase within 5 months infact my first motorcycle...CBR was my dream bike since 2012..and i got disappointed when it was discontinued and finally they came with bullet proof reliable engine..who cares for latest gen tech..TVS is good but it wont be useful for me as i like sedate riding and enjoy to ride
Strell I bought CBR250r too after watching your video ... Cheers🍺CBR250R owners
CBR engine is gem. It's power is so linear and amazing. Bomb proof reliability and robust. If 250RR is considered or compared to other bikes they All look Pale.
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Good to see my kind of people who loves CBR 😍😍😍 thank u #Strell bro 😊😊😊
220F, CBR-250R, Karizma fall into some of the best bikes in India in terms of seating comfort for both pillion and rider, that is what I've perceived from reading multiple hundreds of pages on forums. My heart has been on the RTR 200 since the start because the power it provides still feels more than enough to me and the bike is almost flawless except the fact that TVS screwed it with stupid(I know it is my opinion and the word "stupid" I use because it only lacks one of my needs) sporty style pillion seat which is not comfortable for long rides, same they did with RR. I think we may have reached to the point where bikes manufacturers may not go back to traditional family suitable seatings, may be because of aerodynamics efficiency and various technical shits. I think we may be living in the last era of comfy pillion seat, which seems scary to me or may be I am paranoid for nothing.
One thing is for sure; just the latest features and raw power and looks to some extent don't matter to me anymore, they can add military grade satellite connection with built in maps and GPS, high precision low latency environmental sensors and 50000mAh dedicated mobile charger and shits with their instrument console but if they don't provide comfy seats for both pillion and rider, the bike will remain meh for me. This is the reason both my mind and heart are slowly going toward CBR-250R. CBR250R is literally an anomaly among so called tourers or sport tourers which actually is a perfect in all of what I need. It has nice mileage/average. No doubt it has been reliable and in my opinion all you need are tachometer, speedometer and fuel level indicator period to explore unlimited nature though unlimited roads, which it obviously provides. Why ? Because I will have a smartphone for those worthless gimmicks and a power bank as well. Though you could always go for a high amp expensive lithium based battery for to improve charging capability without having to worry about the EFI's dependability on proper voltage which is indeed a critical thing for FI powerd bikes, well that is the context for other days. Never mind!
Also I don't know why nobody talked about that the brakes of CBR have been known to provide a excellent confidence in all scenarios, hence the best breaking system is still with the CBR in my opinion, RR 310 has a long way to prove that since it is a new bike.
Not saying RR 310 won't be good, but most people should not go for any new bike for 2-3 years and let the manufacturer response with improved batches. Call me old school but at least this is what I feel about a bike. Unless your sole intention is to only do R&D and learn about new things which I respect no doubt, I don't wanna be a one of those early adapters aka guinea pigs for them companies.
Nice review as always!
Sumit Singh well said my friend
Very well said!
Nicely put Sumit.....i will tell this again and again in every platform ....a middle class 40 plus person who cant afford a Triumph Tiger but still roams around the country a lot with a pillion every time, cbr was the perfect upgrade from karizma and it still is even after 5 years.....
Yatishankar Bandyopadhaya yes brotha . Even for me as a karizma owner my next upgrade is going to be a cbr 250r
Well said brother. You read my mind.
You sound confident now... Keep growing and improving... ✌️
Thanks bro :)
Welcome bro....
Bro Honda cbr 250r is great bike for long ride always
bhai tune mera dilka baat bola.. 100% perfect cbr,80% perfect 20% new thing apache rr... its soooo true... you are a genuine guy...
Once again strell comes up with quality videos about RR 310. Keep them coming man ! :)
Doesn't matter how many views you got on your videos Your videos are the best when it comes Quality ❤✌ Love From mumbai ✌
Thanks a lot buddy :)
You speak my words man! I prefer CBR250 over any other sport tourer. It's refined, smooth and silent🍻🍻
DOHC 🔥
Forget rr310 & cbr250r, my heart is set on XBlade! i know it doesn't come in category of sports tourer, but man o man i want it NOW! 😃💯🔥
I love cbr ❤️ family sports tourer
When compairing CBR250R with RR310, one important factor that is often overlooked is their fuel tank capacity. RR310 has got 11lt. tank while 250R has got 13 lt. fuel tank.
Now in a carburated bike you could use the entire capacity, but in a bike equipped with fuel injection, you need atleast 3 lt. fuel at all times, to keep your FI pump cool. Otherwise it could just get fried and replacement is very expensive.
So that means 8 lts. usable fuel capacity for RR310, while it is still 10lts. in case of 250R.
Now if TVS intended RR310 to be an out and out track tool like RC200/390 then its 8lt. usable fuel tank capacity wont be bad. But...... and its a big but...TVS intends RR310 as a do it all sport bike which can commute, do track days, touring etc. just like CBR250R. And here the 8lt. usable limit just sucks. And those looking for touring(solo or with pillion) forget about the range in league of CBR250R.
That is why I believe 2018 CBR250R is still very relevant and is still India's most versatile lightweight supersport bike.
@Strell
Your thoughts on the above comment.
Your thoughts are cent percent correct. Tank range is low with RR. But based on the tours that I have done in India, a tank range of 250km is not because, you will see a fuel station within this limit ( Taking the assumption that it's a complete road tour, than offroads) One cannot consider this motorcycle for off roads, personally I felt difficulty taking it off road and it takes lot of time to cover distances. And finally, I am sorry to say a truth based on my experience 😊, this wasn't handling well as a track moyorcycle. It's aerodynamic, but need to work on weight distribution which plays a big role on taking corners. ( I don't have experience in track. But love riding mountain roads)
Man i loved ur review. U gave enough info which i was in need. M going to buy this bike in a month or so but was confused with CBR and RR, cuz i never rode a Sports Bike before always drove a car and in bike i had Splendor Bullet or Pulsar 180 once and was so confused between CBR and 310. Cuz 310 is such an eye candy and i was like am i making a mistake on choosing a bike based on it's looks but ur review helped a lot and m all cleared out of my cunfusion. Thanks a lot bro. BTW ur helm is sick m not gonna wear one cuz i tie turban, but if i had to i would have gone for the same u got. Good review and keep up the good work. Thank you.
Great work bro! Maintain this way and you'll succeed big levels. By the way, a small suggestion from me as a long time follower of your channel, pls rope your bag to the seat. Yes it is a new bike but for a long ride, never wear backpacks.
Thanks a lot for your care Prashanna. I didnt meant to tour on that day, but eventually rode the motorcycle all the way doing the mileage test. Generally I dont wear a back pack while touring. Understand the risk :)
@strell
What should i buy.. ??
Apache rr310 or cbr 250r???
Please say..bro
Bro you have perfect knowledge of bikes and expectation of people what they want to gain from you keep it up I think TVS and Honda both are excellent
TVS are growing in market ,they still not the best,but better than bajaj .. Honda already established ..
I don't have any problems with cbr250r cos I own it my Apache rr310 is coming next month.. I like the gear you use and would like to know more... Can u make a video about the gear it would be great...🤘🤘✌✌
Hey strell - if you're taking cbr250R as benchmark for refinement - which is one is closer to it ? duke 390 or RR310. Taking into consideration the recent hike of 8k which narrows down the difference between rr310 and duke 390 to 16K, which is the better option to chose...
RR is way refined from ktm bikes. 390 is more power and thrill for riding. RR310 feels more matured and relaxed infront of that.
Cbr is 😍, u just don't realise how fast you're going, so stable and responsive.
I dont know why but i love the cbr over any other 250-300 segment bikes. Maybe because its on my heart and mind since 2011.. By the way bro did you spot any 2018 cbr in bangalore.. it may take ages to reach here in kerala i guess.. Nice video brotha
Biker Buddy Motovlogs I recently checked from the showroom and they haven't gotten any intimation from honda about 2k18 model
CallmeShawz yes when i called up the showroom guys they also told the same.. They dont have any info till date. But the bikes have arrived in North india i guess
SamMoto147 Vlog yeah lets wait and see.. Let tge beast roll back again...
Yeah, North started getting the bike. As per expectation, it should reach bengaluru in 2 weeks.
Strell cool
Tvs is toe to toe in built quality with cbr 250 cause it's a BMW underneath.looks and powers goes to rr310.
Jay Mero desh NEPAL I noticed most of the comments mention about Cbr refinement and quality which is true. But as u said Apache 310 has a BMW engine which cannot be underestimated.
TVs is shit
karunakar sapogu like ur face
@@rajendertkr begger who can't afford a true sports bike
@@karunakardaddy dud your comment had been informed to the cyber cell as its a crime you done. Wish you good luck.
@Strell It's been two years. Do you till think an RR 310 is a good buy? Especially I'm looking to ride in the city mostly and some light touring on the weekends. Wondering if I should go for a H'ness or RR310
I want to hear your views on the apache rr 310 BS6....I've heard the vibrations on that machine are far less than the BS4 version.
Hai bro.. I have budget of around 2 Lakhs and looking for a bike for daily commuting and tourer on weekends.. Which bike would you suggest.. If it's CBR 250R whether ABS or Non ABS.. Please reply me
I believe it is not as reliable and stress free as honda? What do you think?
I own a tvs ntorq and yes I am having some problems. I previously owned honda dio and it had no problems at all.
Dude i like the way you explained. Was nice listening to information you shared.
I didn't feel cbr is underpowered when compared to dominar. As dominar has very good low end tends to make us believe that cbr is slow. Surely domi has more grunt but aside from touring view i didn't like the handling of Domi
yes..love this bike..great work by an Indian company..one day we beat all..
Dude! This is one kind of a review! Prfct in all aspects! Great! Keep going! Strell💪👍
CBR 250r Forever.
Ya...when u need more power rr 310.
So much of them needed this comparison ... especially from honda user.😎
Hi strell, i read and heard that for rr310 there are recently an ecu upgrade, chain roller upgrade to soften chain noise and cushion on the visor to control rattle. Did your friend happened to get all these? Any chance of we getting ur latest review on rr310?
I really can't wait for rest of your videos.
You really nail it buddy. Your presentation and content beats other moto vloggers
So with the upcoming cbr 300 , hows the new RR310 bs6 ? u tired?
Brother do a full highway drag race with cbr 250 and RR 310
I'm a Karizma R owner, and I've seen many viewers here who favour CBR 250R as the perfect bike to upgrade from the Karizma. l was thinking of of doing the same, but the Apache RR310 seems too good to resist. That doesn't mean my dilemma has ended. The uncertainty is further aggravated by the fact that the RR310 isn't available in my city, Trivandrum. I need to buy from Kochi. So I decided to settle for the CBR, but this video is now making me change my mind. Power is important for me. The CBR 250R doesn't offer much of a power difference from the Karizma. 26.5 bhp (CBR) is just around 7 bhp more than the 19 bhp for the Karizma. If pillion comfort is all I need, I don't need to upgrade from the Karizma. The reason I'm uphrading is for the power and killer looks. From that perspective, the RR 310 is the winner.
Bro I am confused about what to buy
CBR ,classic or v3
Will you please help??😢
Have heard everywhere that RR310 vibrates like a typical Apache, how does that that bother during touring? And moreover how much is the extent of the vibes?
Spare parts are bit costlier in 310rr
Especially it's sprocket cost 7000rs. Where in cbr 2300rs something I can buy cbr sprocket 3times. But still is it a worth to buy 310rr?
Strelly, Its high time I dont know when am gonna buy CBR soon by selling off my 220F, Rx135 and Shogun.. u r tempting me and I like it that way 😁, Peace ✌🏻
@Strell
How does RR310 handle/corner when compared with CBR250R? Which bike has superior agility, manoeuvrability?
I felt CBR leans over the corner better than RR310 with right mods (Grippy tyres+harder front suspension). The weight distribution of RR310 didnt felt transparent to me. Felt a little bit heavy while taking it back from corners.
Strell
I think we must not forget the fact that RR310 was conceived as a naked bike first(G310R), and from there onwards TVS started their work. So may be the front/rear weight distribution and mass centralisation may not suit a faired bike. Who knows?
On the other hand, the trellis twin spar diamond frame, to proper front rear weight distribution, to rear pro-link suspension was FULLY developed for a full cowl 250cc sport bike from Honda. That's why CBR250R has such wonderful mass centralisation.
And I agree, with better tyres and a thicker grade fork oil for stiffer forks, CBR could be a revealation in terms of cornering.
PS: Look at the rear monoshock placement of both RR310 and CBR250R. CBRs is so close to engine that you cant see it from outside, while Apache RR310's is in a more conventional place, in front of the rear tyre.
Thanks Strell for your inputs and honest review. Much appreciated bro.
Greetings from Mexico. Im actually thinking about buying this bike in here the R3, Ninja 300 , 390 are way expensive for a 300cc motorcycle
Iam thinking about buying a bike but I have a confusion between whether go for an cbr or rr310 what you suggest
That major draw back of pillion comfort made me go for cbr 250r 2018. Cbr 250r is a great machine lot of say that cbr 250r is not updated in terms of engine. All I can say is it has proven all this years and doesn't require an update im satisfied with 2018 version. The only thing for people who are cursing honda for an update is they should hold on their heart for cbr 250rr which may cost again around 3 to 3.5l
how much does the service cost? are the spare parts cheap? I'm planning to get it next week please do help me. thank you.
can u compare the older version nd new version of apache rr310 or is it worth going for the new version with slipper clutch
Honda has a history of engineering and refinement thus reliable in mind for common people. TVS in high end motorcycles is a new thing without underestimating TVS.
I like your helmet, what's the brand and model..?!
please reply me
i wanna take a new bike and my opinion are rr310 and cb300r and I'll use it as my daily commute home to college and college to home and some short ride should i go with new fantom black rr310 or cb300r I'm upgrading from Scoty i wanna know you opinion
your subscriber from Nepal
Which will you recommend - Duke 390 or 310RR
Its a personal choice bro.
Duke 390 = Brutal power. Amazing ride experience in city and small tours. Love of speed and acceleration :)
RR310 = MAkes to be a good tourer. Slightly more premium feel.
Bro Pls tell me about the maintenance of the two motorcycle and I cannot compromise the CBR 250r with rr 310 and am under the big confusion of which motorcycle to buy
I was planning to buy the cbr 250r when they relaunched it earlier this year. But I am not pleased with the new colors & graphics that honda offered. Should I wait for the the next year to get new colors or go with an apache rr310 this year?
Honda hasn't updated colours so quickly. New colours may come after 2 or 3 years.
Hey man..!! You did quite well with comparison points....& M glad that you also considered points which were like... rarely discussed in other forums....
I love the CBR...n Love the RR too...& Since i want it only for touring purpose + pinion comfort + a motorcycle which can comfortably cruise 120kmph...
What are your views on the New Himalayan...?
Which one is good to buy cbr250 or 310rr??
Which among Cbr250, fz25, Duke 250? requirement being economical touring and future-proof for next 2-3 years.
Yamaha and Honda are much more reliable. Out of that, Fz25 will be much economic to maintain and tour.
Strell thanks mate.... Should i consider Mojo...? I have taken test ride of all the bikes i have mentioned and the dominar too.. i felt the duke and yamaha to be doing justice.. dominar though was nice but its longevity is questionable...
I am not sure about the maintenance part of Mojo. Otherwise its a brilliant motorcycle for long distances. The only problem with the Duke is that, it may have some quality issues. Sometimes may not.
Strell thanks again....
i more thing i hv experienced, the headlight of CBR is too good mann..... its so bright... i always compare it wid cars while riding... its tht much bright... agree CBR riders?
srikant chauhan
Yes bro. I've cbr250r 2014 model. The headlights are good very powerful for a bike.
Bro u being owner of CBR250R for quite long time now, I just wanna know have you faced any service and spare parts issues?? Most of CBR owners I came across have this particular grief that CBR has spares issues, availability isnt that great. What's your views regarding this.
Hi Abhishek. Until now I havnt faced anything being in Bengaluru.
OK bro.. Thank you 😊😊
You are absolutely right, Honda make fool of us, they always sell older product compared to other countries. I think these days India Manufacturers are doing better than others. You look at Tata, Ather Energy, Mahindra, they all are giving much valued product than other companies.
Should i buy this bike. Now in 2018 or wait for the update
Bro I am looking for a bike which can easily cruise on highways for 4-5 hours at 130kmph without a feel that engine is under stress. CBR can do it?
lol you started comparing even though you said you won't, amazing shots bro 😁
Hi bro. Right now I was with Gixxer 2015 model. I was planning to replace my bike with 250r. Just tell me one thing. Is there any problem in gear shift. Because my Gixxer gear is soo hard that my shoes is getting damage and my height is 6 feet, should I need to face back pain problem in 250r. What's the maintenance cost if I go for paid and free service. Please respond me.
@Strell
How much faster does Apache RR310 feel over CBR250R?
Can you break down 0-60 and 0-100 for both with their respective top speeds?
I will do it in my drag race bro :)
Strell
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Any time lines bro? How long do we need to wait?
There is one guy from Rajasthan who has draged a Baby Blade with RR310(RR310 obviously won), but the video quality left a lot to be desired☹
Anyways, my suggestion to you would be to do a very long drag where we get to see both their maximum speeds.
Also make sure that CBR rider absolutely lays down on the tank to maximize its aerodynamics.
Best of luck...
Nice dude...i live your video....
I hv 1 confusion..which bike has more vibration Rr310 or rc390?
RC390 :)
Strell didnt you felt vibrations?? My 2 friends own rr310 and their bikes vibrates like hell, Refinement and exhaust sound feels like shit. Agree??
Not really bro. My friend is pretty much happy with the bike. He is going city rides and going lot of highways too. Just take the bikes to service centre, it seems like something needs to be fixed.
Bro compare to Honda Cbr 250 , How's Apache 310 engine durability?
Which store in Bangalore would you recommend for CBR accessories, such as a slider for example?
There are few certified shops in bangalore like orion motors, letsgearup and all. If you are looking for a cheap alternative, thirumala pit stop.
bhai mai helmet pe airbrush kra rha hoon. to kya visor pe bhi thoda paint ho skta hai.... chalan to nhi hoga??????
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Just like the way you explain ... Keep up
Thank you :)
Great Video mate..!!✌🏻
How did you attached the GoPro to the helmet ?
I used mseal to attach it. There are many videos on doing this. I followed one of them.
Okay. So its a permanent mount like the other ones. Do you have any difficulty while riding with this(wind, noise etc..) ?
Bro is it really worth buying a new CBR250R? I was thinking more like buying a 2nd hand. I am in a lot of confusion. My options are like
1. 2nd hand CBR250R
2. Dominar 400
3. Yamaha R3(convinved by a friend xD)
3. Apache RR310
I like what CBR can offer. But i am quite disturbed by the fact that this engine will be 10 years old when my bike is just 3 years old(xD) . Could you help me out here?
I need basically for daily commute as well occassional touring :)
Engine maybe 10 years old but still it has refinement and reliability which can make new age engines run for their money.
Buy second hand CBR250R within 1lakh which will be value for money Sir ...Check the shim sound and tyres that's it.
If money is not a problem for you and you are a motorcycle enthusiast , then the third option is an Usain bolt. No look back. Otherwise here is my take.
1. 2nd hand CBR => Need to make sure that all are good and the reason for selling. Good for city and heavy touring.
2. Dominar400 => Most economic tourer available in India. Good city bike too. But need to maintain well.
3. R3 => Love of enthusiast. Good city motorcycle with aggressive seating. Moderate tourer. High maintenance cost when compared to others.
4. RR310 => Again tourer and good city motorcycle.
Strell CBR250R is perfect for my use. But my only concern is it is a 7 year old model. What would you suggest? A 2nd hand or a fresh?
Bro should I go for cbr or a rr 310 I don't want that much power I just need bike that has life,less maintenance, everyday usability and practical.
I think CBR suits your requirement.
Hi dude
I am planning to buy a new bike for both cruising and city ride below 2 Lacks which bike is best?
Superb comparison done between CBR250R and Apatche 310RR.. Thank you so much for such lovely Comparison video..👍👍
Honda CBR 250R 😍
Hi strell! One straight question...if I buy it will be my first bike in life and I will use for daily computing (office and home)...so which one is best : 310 RR or Dominar. Need an opinion Strell!
RR310 has much sportier seating position compared to Dominar. Dominar will be much more comfortable for city, if you are living in a city with lot of traffic congestion. Otherwise any of them will suites you.
Awesome Strell! I really appreciate your reply! I live in Hyderabad and yes it is sportier and I fell in love with it! I may go will 310RR! Kudos bro! And your videos are FAB! Keep rocking and take care man!
dude do not buy both ..For Durabality ,reliability CBR250R at any time .. For only city ride buy scooter sir please dont show off and waste bikes ,it would be a shame buying these bikes not going for touring..
V K dude scooters are bad as they cause back pain because of their trash suspension
My comment was for bikes commuters who simply buy racing,touring bikes and do not go for long ride . :-D
Please do a topend drag race between CBR and RR310. lot of people are waiting for that drag race
We will be very glad if you tell us the name of the brand and model of the helmet and jacket you're wearing. Thanks!
AGV k5 sv helmet and Spartan Helios jacket.
Bro please suggest me ,
cbr is perfect bike to ride in city ?
Bro...if we compare CBR 250R WITH Kawasaki ninja 250r.(I know it's discontinued) but Then what would be your answer?
How serious are the vibrations on this motorcycle? Does the bikes acceleration feel smooth even when it goes past 120kmph or does it show some resistance?
The vibrations are not much bothering if you are peacefully cruising. But it starts getting irritating when you climb up the red line, especially I felt that on 3rd and 4th gear. The acceleration is smooth even after 120. It doesnt go sluggish or stressed.
Strell
This might sound silly. But would the vibrations be an issue for someone who has been riding a royal enfield?
Abhiram D that's a joke! No ways..
Abhiram D you'll feel it is the smoothest bike if you ride rr310 and re back 2 back
Bro which is better bike? apache rr310 or duke 390??
RR310 for more comfortable city and highway ride. Duke for the thrill of riding.
Strell thank you for replying bro
Strell, which one to choose between dominar and Apache 310?
Apache is much refined and fun to ride, from a sports motorcyclist point of view. One will be able to tour on RR310 because of its better refinement. Choose Dominar when you want pillion comfort or more luggage capacity.
Well said...Well laid out...Cant compare both since both stands apart in its own ways but yea the Apache RR310 can ve said the next level of touring with all those fancy cluster and looks...Honda should have made some major changes too..But yea I do love these both machines...Never got a chance to try the Apache RR310...Btw a quick doubt 38km/ltr in highways???is it possible...like under what avg speed you obtain these...
70 to 80km/hr avg speed right..Cz at cruising speed of 100 to 110km/hr i do get a milege of 29 to 32km/ltr...🤔🤔🤔...Well great video buddy...Keep uploading fantastic content and Ride safe..Peace✌
can you fold the cbr250r's mirrors? to make it convenient in traffic?
Yes we can. But it's a sticky and tight set up.
does the vibration produced in rr310 is managable ? how about the riding pleasure?
Yes, its manageable. Not too much irritating.
CBR is for traditional Honda fans and RR310 is for people who want more excitement in riding..Honda may be good but at times they bore riders being too reliable..just my thought
Please do a comparison between fazer25-cbr250r-rr310.Thanks
Man still for me cbr 250r is the mature looking bike it is a head turner man still in 2023 , ilove cbr 250 i want to owm one
I watched every video regarding RR310..please make a video on new version of RR310... eagerly waiting...
Should i buy a cbr now??
What's the name of your helmet bro ??? Looks cool
AGV K5 SV
Strell thanks for replying...
Can you please do a review of the RR310 BS6?
Can we adopt Benelli exhaust to rr310 and cbr250.
Why can't you do a special video about Benelli exhaust. In a video u have already mentioned that like a funny way " I think Benelli have 2 engineers one for the motorcycle and the other for the exhaust".