Once you know how the Christians of the middle east are living, you my brothers will regret every split made between us as Christians, let them take decisions as much as they want, our hearts will never break ties between us, never! ☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️❤️
Me as an exMuslim from Algeria 🇩🇿 , i agree with that and i hope to have peace 🕊️ with all the brothers and sisters Christians and Jewish and Even us the aethiasts the good ones of course .
I'm confused what is the Russian Orthodox Church's claim to apostolic succession after this? Certainly the Romans and Greeks had it, so did all of the other historic churches. But Russia did not Christianize until about the 9th century. Their communion with Constantinople grafts them into the line of succession. But without Constantinople, what differentiates the Russian Orthodox from Protestant denominations?
You are aware that autocephalic national based churches were approved in ecumenical councils long before the schism, correct? The dispute is over whether the ecumenical patriarch overstepped his authority to subdivide an already long autocephalic church. I think perhaps you are viewing the ecumenical patriarch as a Roman Pope like figure. The Ecumenucal Patriarch does not have wordwide governing supremacy as in Roman Catholicism.
That’s not how it works. Constantinople doesn’t lease apostolic succession to Russia like some car. Certain Russian bishops got apostolic succession from other bishops in the south, they are fully independent as any other bishop when they become bishops in the 9th century.
They were granted autocephaly before the schism by the Church of Constantinople therefore the Russian Orthodox Church is Orthodox and is apostolic and can also grant autocephaly.
@@abbanta3002 the Russian Orthodox Church is literally no different than giving any other nation their own church, they want power and influence over Ukraine and nothing more
So, what is your point, Patriarch Krill is well connected and rich, I am sure that is normal for someone in his position. Usually poor people with no connections don't become Patriarch.
Ahhhh, a former KGB agent? So anyone can say anything, like you are probably a CIA agent? Be real, and be respectful so that what you write may be taken respectfully.
@@palomarguy347 ah, NBC News, that fake news channel? Where is your evidence - your "fact" - that Patriarch Kyrill was KGB agent? I dare you. Stop you anti-Russian propaganda, and respect the readers and the profession of journalism.
@ I've noticed you have nothing important but bad things and names to others on this comment thread (I'm guessing it doesn't end here). Hopefully, 2 months later you've stopped acting like such a sissy behind the keyboard.
Constantinople is the correct way to describe that piece of land. What can they say really.?? No one will be able to stop Imam Mehdi (as) & his army. The Cathedral Hagia Shopia in Constantinople will be returned to the rightful owners “ the great people of the Orthodox Christian sect. And Turkey know this. If they don’t then they will soon inshallah.. ❤️🇵🇰😁👆🏼
amen. facts. lations. americans. romans. irish. spanish. africans. ukranians. maronites. indians. japanesse all under one umbrella. AMEN. glory to ROME AND POPE./.
What is happening with Russia? Why do you want to control Ukraine? Give them their independence. In the first place Ukraine is not Russia and vice versa anymore. Politically and religiously, other European countries have gained their independence from Russia. Ukraine deserves it too.
I am Ukrainian, and I can say that the Ukrainian Orthodox Church does not need independence. The schismatics and the authorities need it! So don't say what you don't know !!!
To All Eastern ORthodox...Here is the prophecy of ST. Cyprian against those who Reject the Roman Authority... "Schismatics always burn with zeal at the outset, but that what they began unlawfully cannot have increase or extension, but at once falls away with its guilty rivalry." ----(ST. Cyprian of Carthage, Letter 51 , 240 A.D.)
Krishyy Fan : at least we don’t have our Priest and Bishops molest our children you roman catholic pervert . Ps tell papa to stop watching so much kiddies porn
Thank god for the Papacy... "If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?" ----(st. Cyprian of Carthage, 240 A.D.)
1. Currently there are 60+ schisms within the Papist Church. Papal 2.st Cyprianos Pope of Carthage twice called councils rejecting decisions of the Church of Rome and interrupting communion . 3..The Holly Orthodox Church the Church of Christ is a Family . Among the members of every family occasionally occur disputes,this is an inevitable consequence of Human weakness and it did happen even among the APOSTOLES in the presence of Christ. The other solution is the one of Papism, to transform the Church to military camp and proclaim an " Infallible Monarch " T
what did Eastern ORthodox achieve in the last 1000 years except factions and hatred against each other....only the Catholic church has evangelized the world becuase of Unity....
There are not 60+ schisms in the "Papist Church". The Catholic Church, under the Bishop of Rome has always held to the true Orthodox, Christian Faith. It's also something our Lord affirmed himself in the Bible that Peter was the true leader of the Church.
@@CopperheadAirsoft ergo, it created an endless schism. Martin Luther's protestantism was a byproduct of what he's laid out in his 95 theses. You are entirely at fault for what happened to Christendom, all because you wanted to rule over people and live in luxury and be corrupt while you're at it. You can't just buy your way out of hell, do you not know that? Even charity as a Christian is done a different way
@@one_step_sideways lol its not our church's fault. It was because of a schismatic german bishop named Marthin Lurter. He is a schismatic just like your patriarch
It is better to have a bad leader but keep the faith and live in plain Catholic faith. Man is never perfect, yet he doesn't marry and never keep people's money for his own family. It is so much better than following random teaching and money oriented in Jesus name.
Danniko- Absolutely correct, the prophecy regarding Russia from our mother Mary of Fatima will eventually materialize. May God bless you and your family!
While I acknowledge the fact that the whole "Putin Crimea annexation", at least in regards to the story in itself does not hold true value, Our Lord Jesus Christ affirmed the Pope as the leader of the Christian Church because Peter was the leader of the Christian Church and the First Pope, something that is well evidenced when Eusebius of Caesara says that Peter was the 1st Bishop of Rome, and we see in the New Testament how God gives Peter leadership of the Church on Earth as his representative. Unfortunately, the Eastern Orthodox Church left the Holy Mother Church under the Bishop of Rome.
You did the schism, catholics, and you dare have a human (the pope) act as if he is a person close to God in hierarchy. The Orthodox church was the original to ever exist, and your foolish ideologies led to a schism. I really hope you start reading the truth (basically found anywhere on the internet) and come back to the original Church, the True Church of God.
@ Certificate what did eastern orthodox accomplish in the last 1000 years??... it did no even evangelize the world.....now you will reduce in numbers again because of your schism....from 250 million...how many will be left because of schism?? LOL
What a joke. The ROC seperate from EP I over Ukraine but was happy to be in communion with them even though they use the New Calendar which is under anathema and even though the EP concelebrates with and commemorates the heretic Pope
Just Rebel its Constantinople as the prophet Muhammad ( pbuh) says it. & do u think u can stand in the way of Imam Mehdi (as) & his army..? The Cathedral Hagia Sophia in Constantinople will be returned back to the great people of the Orthodox Christian sect. Ameen. Amen 🙏. With love from 🇵🇰❤️
I live in America, very secular country. My family was catholic but never really attended services. I myself, found god, found the Orthodox Church. So how am I being controlled if it was my total decision to follow this life style
I was born and raised atheist by communist parents and only now being an adult do I realize how juvenile and frankly retarded atheism is. God exists and became man for us.
LMAO "use religion to control the ignorant." did you forget the one who said that originally used political power/structure too indoctrination its citizens and allowed the murder of millions of people.
Once you know how the Christians of the middle east are living, you my brothers will regret every split made between us as Christians, let them take decisions as much as they want, our hearts will never break ties between us, never! ☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️❤️
AMEN! Statecraft has no place in our religion! It is above such petty conflicts of man! Praise The Lord Most High!
@matt qane you dont come off as a Christian. This is not something Christians would be over-joyed to hear.
@user-xh3rb6qk4e Moscow is in the hands of the antichrist..
@user-xh3rb6qk4e Rome??? lol. it's the MOSC0W that prefer the corrupt politics over the church.
I pray that we are all back in communion soon I pray as an Orthodox Christian ☦️
Agreed
agreed
We Christians should live in unity and in peace around the world.paul from India.
Me as an exMuslim from Algeria 🇩🇿 , i agree with that and i hope to have peace 🕊️ with all the brothers and sisters Christians and Jewish and Even us the aethiasts the good ones of course .
How about we get some unity together and take back the city of Constantinople from the Ottomans finally?
@Ekaterina H Are you afraid of jews ?
@Catherine H You keep tearing yourself apart
This would be my biggest dream
Not tomorrow. The orthodox communities are more divided than ever. The whole History of orthodoxy is a story of divisions.
bro still lives in 1600s lmao
I'm confused what is the Russian Orthodox Church's claim to apostolic succession after this? Certainly the Romans and Greeks had it, so did all of the other historic churches. But Russia did not Christianize until about the 9th century. Their communion with Constantinople grafts them into the line of succession. But without Constantinople, what differentiates the Russian Orthodox from Protestant denominations?
Er. The fall of the Byzantine Empire to theTurks, and the rise of Moscow as the last bastion in Orthodoxy in the East of Europe. Dubshye.
You are aware that autocephalic national based churches were approved in ecumenical councils long before the schism, correct? The dispute is over whether the ecumenical patriarch overstepped his authority to subdivide an already long autocephalic church.
I think perhaps you are viewing the ecumenical patriarch as a Roman Pope like figure. The Ecumenucal Patriarch does not have wordwide governing supremacy as in Roman Catholicism.
That’s not how it works. Constantinople doesn’t lease apostolic succession to Russia like some car. Certain Russian bishops got apostolic succession from other bishops in the south, they are fully independent as any other bishop when they become bishops in the 9th century.
They were granted autocephaly before the schism by the Church of Constantinople therefore the Russian Orthodox Church is Orthodox and is apostolic and can also grant autocephaly.
Stop putting politics with religion
u cant give every orthodox nation their own church, it's heresy. and Russian Church doesn't want to be part of these heretics.
@@abbanta3002 the Russian Orthodox Church is literally no different than giving any other nation their own church, they want power and influence over Ukraine and nothing more
@@mr.anderson2241 It's a church.. Nothing has to do with politics and it cant be anything to do with politics.
@@mr.anderson2241 Ukraine has more than enough influence in Ukraine as about 70% of the population is Russian.
@@abbanta3002 the Russian Orthodox Church is a willing tool of the Russian government. 70% of Ukraine is Russian? Lmao maybe in your dreams
Power hungry Kirill lust for power
its never been about faith or religion.
Patriarch Krill, a former KGB agent, who has a Lear jet and a dacha in Lake Como, Italy- is a “right hand man” to Comrade Putin.
So, what is your point, Patriarch Krill is well connected and rich, I am sure that is normal for someone in his position. Usually poor people with no connections don't become Patriarch.
@@adolphCat Patriarch of Alexandria, Jerusalem and Antioch are poor
Ahhhh, a former KGB agent? So anyone can say anything, like you are probably a CIA agent? Be real, and be respectful so that what you write may be taken respectfully.
@@imadboles3431 - as a former NBC News reporter I deal with the facts- everything I have said about KGB Agent Krill is 100% true.
@@palomarguy347 ah, NBC News, that fake news channel? Where is your evidence - your "fact" - that Patriarch Kyrill was KGB agent? I dare you. Stop you anti-Russian propaganda, and respect the readers and the profession of journalism.
Don't trust Rome.
@ I've noticed you have nothing important but bad things and names to others on this comment thread (I'm guessing it doesn't end here). Hopefully, 2 months later you've stopped acting like such a sissy behind the keyboard.
the real history will not die!
im an outsider to this, but i am curious....what is Constantinople's reaction to this?
Constantinople is the correct way to describe that piece of land. What can they say really.?? No one will be able to stop Imam Mehdi (as) & his army. The Cathedral Hagia Shopia in Constantinople will be returned to the rightful owners “ the great people of the Orthodox Christian sect.
And Turkey know this. If they don’t then they will soon inshallah.. ❤️🇵🇰😁👆🏼
@@topnotch465 are u kidding ?
Imam Faraz stupid shia beliefs
@@topnotch465 and now Hagia Sophia is a mosque again 😵
Istanbul*
This is why we need the papacy to help unite Christian churches. The papacy has a great record for better unity than any other church union.
amen. facts. lations. americans. romans. irish. spanish. africans. ukranians. maronites. indians. japanesse all under one umbrella. AMEN. glory to ROME AND POPE./.
And is also very false tho
What is happening with Russia? Why do you want to control Ukraine? Give them their independence. In the first place Ukraine is not Russia and vice versa anymore. Politically and religiously, other European countries have gained their independence from Russia. Ukraine deserves it too.
I am Ukrainian, and I can say that the Ukrainian Orthodox Church does not need independence. The schismatics and the authorities need it! So don't say what you don't know !!!
Lost my respect to ROC
To All Eastern ORthodox...Here is the prophecy of ST. Cyprian against those who Reject the Roman Authority...
"Schismatics always burn with zeal at the outset, but that what they began unlawfully cannot have increase or extension, but at once falls away with its guilty rivalry."
----(ST. Cyprian of Carthage, Letter 51 , 240 A.D.)
Krishyy Fan : at least we don’t have our Priest and Bishops molest our children you roman catholic pervert . Ps tell papa to stop watching so much kiddies porn
The Vatican is literally controlled by pedophile zionist occultists lol
@@jailbird11 Cool argument.
@@seekerseraphimtherecluse4314 Cool argument.
David Smith wow you sound very tough and smart with your big boy arguments 😐
Thank you
Thank god for the Papacy...
"If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?"
----(st. Cyprian of Carthage, 240 A.D.)
1. Currently there are 60+ schisms within the Papist Church.
Papal
2.st Cyprianos Pope of Carthage twice called councils rejecting decisions of the Church of Rome and interrupting communion .
3..The Holly Orthodox Church the Church of Christ is a Family .
Among the members of every family occasionally occur disputes,this is an inevitable consequence of Human weakness and it did happen even among the APOSTOLES in the presence of Christ.
The other solution is the one of Papism, to transform the Church to military camp and proclaim an " Infallible Monarch "
T
Papism is heresy. Might as well praise the Christian Scientists for their rule by their Mother Church.
what did Eastern ORthodox achieve in the last 1000 years except factions and hatred against each other....only the Catholic church has evangelized the world becuase of Unity....
There are not 60+ schisms in the "Papist Church". The Catholic Church, under the Bishop of Rome has always held to the true Orthodox, Christian Faith. It's also something our Lord affirmed himself in the Bible that Peter was the true leader of the Church.
papacy is a heresy you clueless twit The Church is built on St Peters confession that Christ is the Son of God not on St Peter.
Does this HAVE anything to do with WAR in Ukraine today? Just askin
yes.
Unity Brothers & Sisters
Then tell Bart to stop smoking the Pope’s pack
Did they also cut ties with the other patriarachates? Antioch, Alexandria abd Jerusalem??
Alexandria yes
Why?
This is the fruits of being schismatics, schism upon schism upon schism.
your church literally gave birth to pr*testantism and all its spin-offs
@@one_step_sideways yea no it didn’t Martin Luther chose that for himself. Do not blame the institution for the sins of man
@@CopperheadAirsoft ergo, it created an endless schism. Martin Luther's protestantism was a byproduct of what he's laid out in his 95 theses. You are entirely at fault for what happened to Christendom, all because you wanted to rule over people and live in luxury and be corrupt while you're at it. You can't just buy your way out of hell, do you not know that? Even charity as a Christian is done a different way
@@one_step_sideways lol its not our church's fault. It was because of a schismatic german bishop named Marthin Lurter. He is a schismatic just like your patriarch
@@idgafidgaf3059 nah it your bs fan fictions like the fililoque which make you the original heretics
Third part of Fatimah.. take it easy, everything must be fulfilled. Keep the faith n pray. Ave maria gratia plena, ora nobis peccatoribus. Amin. 😇
Donniko Dovanique : take your bull shit of fatimah and shove it up your popes ass
The pope is a globalist cuckold.
It is better to have a bad leader but keep the faith and live in plain Catholic faith. Man is never perfect, yet he doesn't marry and never keep people's money for his own family. It is so much better than following random teaching and money oriented in Jesus name.
Danniko- Absolutely correct, the prophecy regarding Russia from our mother Mary of Fatima will eventually materialize. May God bless you and your family!
Amen. Not amin. Amin is a first name.
With as many Greeks turning back to mythology and not going to Church Bartholomew had to find a new income, hence 22 million Ukrainians
Just take the Greek flag from your picture. We dont allign with fake nations like Fyrom.
Yes let us ressurect faith for Zeus! Screw the "modern" middle east religion phoey! They ruined Osiris too!
Schismatics always behaved like thia
Nationalism before God.
What?
Schismatic? Says the church already in schism with Rome.
Don’t be an idiot. Catholics broke off 4v1
LOL...Eastern orthdox church is DEAD...schism 2018...bye bye....LOL
While I acknowledge the fact that the whole "Putin Crimea annexation", at least in regards to the story in itself does not hold true value, Our Lord Jesus Christ affirmed the Pope as the leader of the Christian Church because Peter was the leader of the Christian Church and the First Pope, something that is well evidenced when Eusebius of Caesara says that Peter was the 1st Bishop of Rome, and we see in the New Testament how God gives Peter leadership of the Church on Earth as his representative. Unfortunately, the Eastern Orthodox Church left the Holy Mother Church under the Bishop of Rome.
You did the schism, catholics, and you dare have a human (the pope) act as if he is a person close to God in hierarchy. The Orthodox church was the original to ever exist, and your foolish ideologies led to a schism. I really hope you start reading the truth (basically found anywhere on the internet) and come back to the original Church, the True Church of God.
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what did eastern orthodox accomplish in the last 1000 years??... it did no even evangelize the world.....now you will reduce in numbers again because of your schism....from 250 million...how many will be left because of schism??
LOL
Power hungry Russians.
End this madness. Submit to Rome.
We rather submit to Christ
Россия ваш Рим с Землей сровняет.
Ни когда Православные не будут подчиняться еретикам католикам
Ruzland skontanty
0:48 Anytime Bigboy!!...
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highest expectations
Isa ibn Mariam, peace be upon him.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead on the Third Day. Jesus is Lord over all creation.
Isa ibn Allah
Gereja yang berpolitik hahaha
Setidaknya mereka gak bom bunuh diri atau teroris organisasi kya islam wkwk
Daripada agama ber politik wkwkwk
@@irasilangit4670 iya sih hehehe
@Ekaterina H Chile girl I'm christian too. Translate my name😅
@@Kanal7Indonesia you are not a Christian with that profile picture.
😂 Good 👍 i support it.
What a joke. The ROC seperate from EP I over Ukraine but was happy to be in communion with them even though they use the New Calendar which is under anathema and even though the EP concelebrates with and commemorates the heretic Pope
Rasputin room of poisons were equivalent to professor Snapes Closest.
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Just Rebel its Constantinople as the prophet Muhammad ( pbuh) says it. & do u think u can stand in the way of Imam Mehdi (as) & his army..?
The Cathedral Hagia Sophia in Constantinople will be returned back to the great people of the Orthodox Christian sect. Ameen. Amen 🙏. With love from 🇵🇰❤️
Istanbul is a Greek Word "Istin Polin" meaning"within the City"
"CONSTANTINOPLE"☦️
@@nicoangel3452 It's actually very accurate ... the old town of Constantinople is within the megacity of Istanbul ^^
Great costumes. Use religion to control the ignorant.
james j we don’t follow this life for nothing.....
I live in America, very secular country. My family was catholic but never really attended services. I myself, found god, found the Orthodox Church. So how am I being controlled if it was my total decision to follow this life style
I was born and raised atheist by communist parents and only now being an adult do I realize how juvenile and frankly retarded atheism is. God exists and became man for us.
james j ; You poor soul , lost by Gods Grace may you find his love !
LMAO "use religion to control the ignorant." did you forget the one who said that originally used political power/structure too indoctrination its citizens and allowed the murder of millions of people.
Enough nonsense. Noone even knows that God exists, let alone what her favorite hymns are.
"Her" lol
@ZBop Scientific possibility that nothing created everything is impossible.