@falkjinfo there are many, but like you also said, they are mostly being severely censored by the msm oulets- including the supposedly free internet, by google, youtube, facebook, twitter, microsoft oligarchs, i never could imagine that this would be happening so soon either, you are right, that the best way now is through our direct recommendations to each other, including alternative news media websites, albeit, with discernment, and self fact checking with primary sources as one can never be sure of subvertive agendas/unintended propagations of misinformation despite the best of intentions even, anyways as you are from germany you are in a position to understand this well through the recent historic wwii events of fascist censorships your people have had to endure and fight through, thus the valuable contributions of your publics awareness, in the all important mass demonstrations that have gained prominence in berlin in the past month, i am sure you are thus aware of ACU the german covid19 extra parliamentary inquiry committee who have hosted the likes of dr. sucharit bhakdi or even robert f. kennedy who spoke at the recent berlin protests, theres also david icke, who was interviewed by an online digital freedom platform called londonreal, extensively, his theories add up although he is viewed as little extremist by some, i believe there is real substance behind most of what he says, interviewer brian rose's discussion with dr. rashid buttar and a panel of 100 doctors is also compelling, although, i will warn you of the anti-vaxxer labels attributed to dr. rashid, as with rfk, in an aim to discredit their perspectives, at the end of the day what we need is the option to view alternative viewpoints and then decide for ourselves, not to be fed one sided truths by the msm as that is the real danger that wont allow people to consider alternate truth, so along these lines, i also recommend an alternative news website: collective evolution which i stumbled upon, and to my amazement discovered that the voices of three prominent stanford professors, of which john ionnidis is a valuable voice youve just heard, were being suppressed-look up articles by arjun walia, dr. thomas cowan was one of the first people i came across who began to tie the fact that covid19 virus sars-ncov2 failed to properly be isolated as per koch postulates, and that pcr tests are being improperly utilized to detect the virus genome thereby leading to potentially hugely exaggerated false positives, aswell as incorrect attributions of deaths by covid19 vs death with covid19-i remember in the early days of the outbreak coming across cdc directives that instructed medical doctors professionals in hospitals to supercede cause of death with covid19 in any case if it has been detected, despite potentially dying of other comobordities, which i had found suspicious then only, but now it makes sense as to why they attempted to do that inorder to inflate death tolls and sensationalize it sadly, there are also strong links between the rollout of 5g contributing to weakened immune systems, and to, bill gates being tied to a vaccine agenda that i wouldnt rule out all yet, knowing how surreptitious government can be when they are funded by big pharma/telecom industry, thus we have to keep our common sense keen.
This guy, with Dr. Knut Wittkowskiand those two CA doctors all look at factual data and are in concurrence. It would be great to have them all get together and hold a press conference.
You do have experts. What about Professor Streeck? Professor Püschel? Dr. Witkowski (even though he lives in New York now.) There should be many more. I hope that they would come forward.
anders tegnell ( swedens chief epidemeologist ) recent comment that 25 % of the swedish population have been infected( by may 9th ) bears up Dr Ioannidis' study . 25 % OF Sweden's population would amount to circa 2,600,000 people . Sweden has had circa 3000 deaths . This indicates an infection fatality rate of circa 0.12 percent which is bang on with Ionnaidis study.
That would mean they only have 7500 more deaths to go.,possibly. And that would translate into 270,000 deaths in the US. Something to think about. With a population 36 times more
More lies, that was prevalence in Stockholm only, not sweden. Stockholm fatalities percapita are 2X larger than Sweden as a whole or something, so there would be a higher IFR than you are saying, again contradicting Dr JetBlue conflict of interest Ioannidis.
@@justinolmstead8086 We have several of those in Romania... One man hang himself after he was fined with 500 usd (which is huge for Romania) because he forgot to write a "declaration" which anyone in my country (except the police, secret services etc) is forced to write when go outside.
Chinese government didn't need to impose lockdown, population had already reached herd immunity, but Li Wenliang an ophthalmologist who worked as a physician at Wuhan Central Hospital posted on Wechat he had obtained information that it was a SARS virus which freaked the Chinese people so government enacted a lock down to reassure them?
Since this study has come under fire, it would strengthen Dr Ioannidis' point if it could be repeated in multiple areas to see if the stats are consistent.
They did something similar in New York and estimated a 0.5% infection fatality rate. www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-york-virus-deaths-top-15k-cuomo-expected-to-detail-plan-to-fight-nursing-home-outbreaks/2386556/
from the very beginning of this world-wide hoax there's the Diamond Princess data showing THE SAME. No. This has nothing to do with data nor science. This is about a world-wide take-over by the same banksters as always. CONTROL. Technopharmacodictatorship.
@@mojebi3804 All of them had a lower mortality rate than what is observed (which is obvious, because we can't test everyone), but the mortality rate across those studies is not the same. The one in this video is very low.
People RIPPED this study when it came out because of its low ifr. Over a year later, CDC confirms a 0.185% ifr. At the time, some where projecting 0.4 -1.0 ifr and I even saw up to 5.0. This whole situation was the absolute worst social disaster of my lifetime and I don't see how it can ever be topped. Lots of people need to go to prison for the rest of their lives.
keep it coming, gentlemen, 'cause it's gonna take a whole lot more talks like this one from qualified, principled professionals like Dr. Ioannidis to get the teeming masses out of the "deer in the headlights" state in which live their life these days....
A hospital room with a negative air pressure setup sits ready for a COVID-19 patient at Bethesda Hospital in St. Paul on March 26, 2020. Instructions to count deaths from “presumed” COVID-19 cases, not just confirmed cases, are met with acceptance for some and criticism from others. Evan Frost | MPR News file www.mprnews.org/amp/story/2020/04/07/covid19-death-certificate-change-stirs-controversy?__twitter_impression=true
I don't know what you watch but Streeck's IFR is at 0.36% from the Gangelt study and Drosten speaks of 0.45%... they're not differing from the opinion of Mr Ioannidis.
Michael Piatt You’re absolutely right my friend. Get plenty of fresh air, sunshine, and take plenty of vitamin c along with zinc to boost your immune system.
@@nickxcore74 My doctor gave me the exact advice and is even sending me a zinc and multivitamin supplement at no cost. Yet, people aren't allowed to share same info. in videos now on UA-cam because it now violates the TOS. Makes no sense.
How come this video doesn't become viral??? Dr.Ioannidis is such a voice of sanity. Thank you!!! Thank you Journeyman pictures!!! All over the world there are these voices. Same craziness in Germany...unbelievable. I'm truly worried about what is going on all over the world...
Doctor Ioannidis is NOT saying the lockdown measures in the US were wrong. Specifically he says in this video. "It was a very sound approach". He is in fact saying what is now needed is sensible easing of restrictions. Let's hope our leaders do just that.
He's just not the type of person to say such a thing. And UA-cam is censoring anything that contradicts the CDC or WHO. The numbers resemble the flu. None of This was necessary.
@@colintaylor5445 Well, here's a little experiment. Type Dr. Ioannidis into UA-cam search and all his videos appear.. I'm watching the whole series of videos from Dr. Wittowski who is very critical of Fauci and the CDC. And I've watched many other videos that are critical and still available. So please don't make statements like this that are so patently untrue.
@@colintaylor5445 Also are you suggesting that Dr. Ioannidis is lying when he says the approach taken in the US wa a very sound approach? He seems a very honest and sincere person and I'm sure would be offended that you call him a liar. As for the numbers resembling the flu...over 62,000 deaths in about a 6 week period. Would have been even higher without lockdown and will be higher again when the add in deaths in nursing facilities and at home. That number of deaths in no way resembles the flu.
Exactly!!! Just out of curiosity... I downloaded the CDC's data (www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm) then plugged it into a spreadsheet. Their data as of Apr 29 shows 33513 deaths attributed to COVID. I broke it down into 3 age groups: 1-44; 45-64; 65 and up; percentages rounded. Ages 1-44 shows 926 deaths or 2.8% of all such deaths. Ages 45-64 shows 5920 deaths or 17.6% of all such deaths. Ages 65+ shows 26667 deaths or 79.6% of all such deaths. So while it isn't only old people, there are typically underlying reasons why the young (below 65) have complications with the virus. There are too many to list, but include obesity, high blood pressure, other unrelated diseases, and compromised immune system. Of course there will continue to be deaths as the isolation is undone. It is a fact that stress, lack of exercise, lack of sunlight, alcohol abuse, and other factors that are occuring as people sit at home weakens the immune system. In effect releasing people with weakened immune systems DUE TO FORCED ISOLATION to a wider contact range. So what came first? The chicken or the egg? The point is - the people under 44 should absolutely return to work and continue life. People 45-64 should also return to normal life, but take extra precautions if they have unusual medical conditions. Those 65+ (typically retired at this point) should try to isolate themselves from large gatherings/high interpersonal areas/public transportation etc... as practically as possible and follow good sanitary protocols (disposable masks(!), hand sanitizers, etc).
The mainstream news people are scared already - waiting for the first to jump over the cliff - then all can follow -even maybe we all too ?! Stupid hysteria make us all hidden and scare.....
Because they all follow government's plan. Of course they won't show this becausr if they did then the truth would come out. But do they want that to happen? no.
The MSM consciously use fear and panic to propagandize their audience into social conformity for the purpose of political control. They are communists.
I am writing from Germany and i want say that i am verry proud of the swedish people that they resist the massiv presure from the rest of the EC. And i want to say thank you to you and your team for broadcasting this important information.
I live in Sweden, and let me tell you; the Swedish government got a lot of critique in the beginning, both from its own citizens and abroad. However, the experts and health authorities in Sweden kept their cool and just followed the data all along to make their recommendations, and with time the data matured and got more and more accurate. This is why science is the better way to assess things and make decisions; not commerce, nor panic, nor politics, nor mainstream media, nor social media. No one and nothing will add the same reason to the table than science. I hope people will remember this in the future.
@@amandadangerfieldpiano Absolutely. But the answer to bad science and bad studies is always better science and better studies. Some people discard science as a method for truth seeking and rather rely on government or religion because "science can't answer XYZ".
This is why the tests are not very telling yet of true immunity and risks- taken from Science magazine: Yet Twitter threads and blog posts outlined a litany of apparent problems with the Santa Clara study. Recruiting through Facebook likely attracted people with COVID-19-like symptoms who wanted to be tested, boosting the apparent positive rate. Because the absolute numbers of positive tests were so small, false positives may have been nearly as common as real infections. The study also had relatively few participants from low-income and minority populations, meaning the statistical adjustments the researchers made could be way off. “I think the authors of the paper owe us all an apology,” wrote Columbia University statistician and political scientist Andrew Gelman in an online commentary. The numbers “were essentially the product of a statistical error.” Bhattacharya says he is preparing an appendix that addresses the criticisms. But, he says, “The argument that the test is not specific enough to detect real positives is deeply flawed.”
New York and LA studies found similar results. Many more results will come out soon. It's very unlikely, and even outrageous to claim that all these studies are "the product of a statistical error."
If the poorer demographics are underrepresented in the study, that is indeed a sampling problem, but it may bear out a higher previous infection rate since it is lower socio-economic population. So, if the numbers are skewed--the "statistical error"--they are likely skewed to artificially *lower* the apparent infection spread in study results. So the study can still make modest claims about the infection rate while acknowledging this limit of the study (which they did). Better samples from low SES population might therefore show *higher* numbers than modest claims in this study, which means COVID may be even less dangerous as analyses become more granular and accurate.
Sweden is actually a good example to estimate the case fatality rate. Stockholm had 1800 deaths (which is an underestimation according to the Swedish National Board of Health and Welfare). About 30% of the population in Stockholm have had the virus according to serological tests, ie 350k people. This corresponds to a case fatality rate 0.6%. Accounting for uncertainties in the seropositive rate after mild infections and the real number of deaths the IFR is likely somewhere between 0.4 and 0.8%. Similar numbers are reported from NYC. 21% seropositive, ie 1.8 Mil; between 13k and 18k deaths gives an IFR of 0.7 to 1.0%.
The problem is that if you did this to other pathogens the same thing would happen. So it's not that SARS2 is less serious than we thought but that all viruses are lower in CFR than we thought. Just look at excess deaths.
What a pity, that he is not telling us more about the study with which he found out, that the number of people who are infected is way higher than they thought. There are no reliable tests like that yet. Poor dr. Ioannidis.
It is stunning that a professor like him, should be scientifically minded, refuses to even mention the criticism he received from his peers over his faulty study.
Thank you from Germany! We are getting into something really dangerous here and drag the whole world with us.. I honestly say thank you for the help. I can tell this won't be anywhere on German news ...
No response in this videa and it certainly doesn't help his credibility that he makes no reference to criticism from several experts regarding the way the sample was recruited, the potential inaccuracy of the test and what seemed to be confusion in comparing infection mortality rate for Covid 19 with case fatality rate for flu. It may well be that there are good arguments to refute these criticisms but so disappointing that he doens't even acknowledge them.
@Natural Man I've seen some of them and potentially the questions that have been raised about the Santa Clara study may apply more broadly. However I'm not disagreeing with the observation that the % of the population infected may be higher than initially thought. I just want to see well run studies that aren't subject to bias since if we want to make good decisions on what to do we need to act on the basis of good data.. There have been serious questions raised about this study and I would like to have seen Dr. I. at least acknowledge this.
John Ioannidis has been the most spot on scientist during this entire thing imo. Using data and always scrutinizing that data and asking new questions in relation to the data and being open to the results good or bad and then doing it over and over. That is how you science.
Just for context.... in March 2020, this guy wrote “If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population - a mid-range guess from my Diamond Princess analysis - and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this would translate to about 10,000 deaths.” We now know that he was off by a factor of more than 50x.... which leads me to believe that there was some flaw in his analysis
Bogus death counts using test instructions that were revised on Jan 20 by the WHO , throwing any PCR based stats prior to that out the window. Google WHO Jan 20
@@chedca I am not sure of your point. But I looked into the issue and found this link.... which seems at variance to the point you are making www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-who-instructions-pcr-guidan/fact-check-who-released-guidance-on-proper-use-of-tests-it-did-not-admit-pcr-tests-showed-inflated-infection-numbers-idUSKBN2A429W
@@MrArdytube quote from your link "The WHO’s guidance was meant to remind labs to conduct the tests with the instructions provided in order to ensure accuracy in the results." Are you saying the link you provided shows labs were not using PCR tests irresponsibly? That would be wrong because evidence shows they were thus the reminder from WHO : www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
@@chedca Actually, I am not sure what we are discussing I quoted the person in the video as basically making the point that the death rate for covid was about .3% I then projected that onto the number of cases that are recorded And came up with a total number of expected deaths of about 10,000 Which I not is dramatically not correct Which then I conclude that the death rate projected by the guy in the video is wrong.... for whatever reason What is your point in response?
@@MrArdytube your comparison is using old data shown to be false, the positivity rate should be assumed as mostly being made of false positives if labs have been shown to run tests more sensitive than what is recommended by the WHO. Additionally your figure of 0.3% is not what is found by Ioannidis's seroprevelance study which can be found here; www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/99/1/20-265892/en/ You can see that 0.31% is the absolutely highest value and the median is actually 0.05% which infectious disease specialists recognize as being akin to seasonal flu. Professional comment to that respect can be found here; www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4509/rr , additionally here is an example of a similar infection fatality rate (H1N1 in England from 2009) " corresponds to an estimated CFR of 0.04% "www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/ese.14.33.19309-en Next time you think you can correct the world's most cited epidemiologist alive today, consider that there may be some misunderstanding on your part.
Sweden will be promoted as an example of how to keep a society functional with only minimal and selected lockdowns, voluntarily reduced social gatherings etc etc. The real motivation will be to model Sweden as a cashless society. Banknotes first appeared in Europe in 1661, in Sweden. Now those dangerous virus carrying paper notes and coins will be removed by 2023 according to the Swedes themselves. Apparently they are very close to elimination of the same. O Brave new world (order) that hath such people in in't.
Is this a new result or is this part of the interview drawn from the last study’s interview? If it’s the latter you shouldn’t post it as if it is a fresh one.
Basically what Dr Ioannidis wants to say is that if you (under 65) are not afraid of driving to work from home, then you should just dismiss the corona and go about your life as before!
Sorry, but there's no way the number of infected is 50 to 85 times more than documented. In NYC, that would mean that the number of infected is 15 to 26 million people. The population of NYC is 8.3 million. This desperately needs some serious peer review, though one can easily tell from Ioannidis conclusion that something is amiss. Most likely the test reliability was bad and the methodology for selecting who was tested was flawed.
Dr. Ionnidis based his first estimate on the Case Fatality Rate on the "Diamond Princess" cruise ship in March. He claimed that it will be about 0.03% and only 10.000 people would die in the US. In the meanwhile 13 of the 712 positive cruise ship passengers have died of the Virus which results in a case fatality rate of 1.8% and not 0.03. Yet he completely ignores this development in his latest videos. The current death toll in the US is already 7 times higher (!) than his estimate and still rising, yet he keeps claiming that everyone is wrong but him. This is crazy.
Thanks for your exposing the truth. Please read my many posts on this site. What is going on at Stanford is horrifying. What is worse is the naive public who is believing it. Indeed, it is crazy...and deadly.
Congrats to Sweeden they saw through this crisis and they saved thousands of people in the longterm with this tactic..Here in Greece the goverment with the strict measures saved many people for now, however how many people will drive to depression, suicides e.t.c in the next 2 years?
I know...I know...it is 10 times less dense than Switzerland and is located geographically much further away from the Italy, France, Spain hot zones than Switzerland is. And, as of this morning, Sweden's death rate is 244/million population compared to Switzerland's 196/million population making Sweden's death rate from Covid-19 25% higher than Sweden (and the gap will certainly be widening even more as time passes). Other than that I have no clue what you are "getting at with this". LOL Note: source = www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries for the data...but who wants to be data driven??? Thanks, G Kara, we have got to keep getting reality and truth 'out there'!!!
I have been saying that this is EXACTLY what happened where I live in Spain (non-serious symptomatic cases flocking to hospitals). Due in large part to "free" health care, people here rush to the "medico" or doctors office at the slightest hint of a problem with anything. My wife and I both had the thing and as we chatted with Spanish friends via text, they all urged us to "go to the hospital!" even though we had no issues that warranted the risk of infecting others (we self-quarantined for 2 weeks after we recovered). I am convinced that anyone with slightest symptoms rushed to the hospital / doctor and created a kind of covd distribution centers. Of course in Madrid, the worst hit, public transportation (they have an awesome metro system in Madrid) and crowded urban environments, along with cultural customs that encourage physical touching and close interaction, contributed greatly to the explosion here.
Just 2 wks needed to show how poor Dr Ion. predictions were. Sad part is that all US predictions have been and continue being wrong. We are stubbornly heading in the wrong direction. It seems that is the best we can offer...
V is a film for our time, it takes place in the year 2020, a virus is released killing 250,000, state actors profit from the sale of drugs, the authorities take totalitarian control over the masses, America goes into a state of civil unrest, and the media unleashes a torrent of shame aimed at those seeking freedom.
He says that Switzerland had Draconian measures in place, but that's only a paraphrase of the Swiss name for their actions. In fact they were far less strict than , say UK or Germany. As far as I can see, individuals were still free to come and go as they pleased, there was merely a recommendation to stay at home, especially for the vulnerable, while inessential businesses were closed and gatherings of more than 5 were banned. Despite the liberal restrictions, the country is pretty much coming out of the crisis, and many businesses are being allowed to re-open. All of which strengthens the conclusions that Dr Ioannidis has reached, and demonstrates that strict locking down is unnecessary when other measures like closing borders are taken; plus Switzerland and Sweden do not have the problem of how to get out of lockdown without the case numbers going up again.
AntonHu Switzerland was also very much affected by the fact that it neighbors the most affected areas in Italy (aka Northern Italy) and where travels between the two countries are more than frequent.
Thank you for the common sense approach based on science - please get this to the authorities so we are not being driven by corporate and pharmaceutical interests.
@@chrishick4515 I knew someone in their 20's who died from a cold, was a fit and healthy woman, and cases of colds causing strokes too. The common cold must be very bad also.
The point is that we all face and take risks every single day simply by going about our daily lives - and it sheds light on the absurdity of government responses, fueled by fear and hysteria
Driving is dangerous. People die every day from accidents. We are accustomed to how dangerous driving is. He was attempting to make the threat of the virus relatable to us. It's one thing to see a number, it's another to know how that number actually relates to us. He was adding context so the average person could understand better.
Hey @journeyman pictures, upon clicking on the website URL it says that the page doesn’t exist. Either check what’s going on or please paste a valid link in the bio. PLEASE include this doctor’s studies too. Thanks
Ioannidis still is ignoring the selection bias and false positive issues that marred the results from the Santa Clara study. He's also ignoring mortality rate and seroprevalance results from the State of New York and the Netherlands that are quite inconsistent with the Santa Clara study and that rather point of an infection fatality rate over 0.6%. He's also making an apple to orange comparison between COVID-19 and the flu when he compares the IFR for COVID-19 with the 0.1% average case fatality rate (CFR) for the seasonal flu. The IFR for the flu is closer to 0.06% according to infectious disease specialists. In any case, the 0.1% figure from the CDC is a case fatality rate based on symptomatic cases and it's misleading to compare it to the IFR for COVID-19.
Not sure about the world as a whole, but CDC web reports show that the US has a slightly lower death rate overall than normal - total deaths are at about 96% of expected deaths - rates did spike for a couple of weeks, I think in the 112% range, but came back down
Washington Post always have been the most reliable source of medical information, I hope 🤞 I’ll continue to read this real source of truth after pleasant vaccination,if I stayed alive
There is a lot of criticism of his study and I agree on them. His study has a set of problems and I don't understand why he is pushing forward. Nothing is - that - clear at this moment. But that's the beauty of science: critical discussions. You can google it.
This study is far more reliable then all the numbers the CDC is 'testing' and telling (antigen testing has no value concerning immunity) and what this clearly indicates, just as in Europe and even when critically concerning Chinese figures is a simple fact: the infection fatality rate was completely misjudged on a wrong input in a not validated model as Imperial College in London did. The problem is that even criticism will not worsen the body count which in total; will be below 0,3 of infected, meaning: just as bad as the flu. It also means that over 99.6 % of infected will heal, that's nothing to be afraid of as far as I am concerned, also the hospital system hast not been overwhelmed in the US, only in countries with less functional healthcare as Italy and in a lesser way Spain.
One of the most calm and clear voices among all this fearmongering we are facing daily! Thank you Dr.
@falkjinfo there are many, but like you also said, they are mostly being severely censored by the msm oulets- including the supposedly free internet, by google, youtube, facebook, twitter, microsoft oligarchs, i never could imagine that this would be happening so soon either, you are right, that the best way now is through our direct recommendations to each other, including alternative news media websites, albeit, with discernment, and self fact checking with primary sources as one can never be sure of subvertive agendas/unintended propagations of misinformation despite the best of intentions even, anyways as you are from germany you are in a position to understand this well through the recent historic wwii events of fascist censorships your people have had to endure and fight through, thus the valuable contributions of your publics awareness, in the all important mass demonstrations that have gained prominence in berlin in the past month, i am sure you are thus aware of ACU the german covid19 extra parliamentary inquiry committee who have hosted the likes of dr. sucharit bhakdi or even robert f. kennedy who spoke at the recent berlin protests, theres also david icke, who was interviewed by an online digital freedom platform called londonreal, extensively, his theories add up although he is viewed as little extremist by some, i believe there is real substance behind most of what he says, interviewer brian rose's discussion with dr. rashid buttar and a panel of 100 doctors is also compelling, although, i will warn you of the anti-vaxxer labels attributed to dr. rashid, as with rfk, in an aim to discredit their perspectives, at the end of the day what we need is the option to view alternative viewpoints and then decide for ourselves, not to be fed one sided truths by the msm as that is the real danger that wont allow people to consider alternate truth, so along these lines, i also recommend an alternative news website: collective evolution which i stumbled upon, and to my amazement discovered that the voices of three prominent stanford professors, of which john ionnidis is a valuable voice youve just heard, were being suppressed-look up articles by arjun walia, dr. thomas cowan was one of the first people i came across who began to tie the fact that covid19 virus sars-ncov2 failed to properly be isolated as per koch postulates, and that pcr tests are being improperly utilized to detect the virus genome thereby leading to potentially hugely exaggerated false positives, aswell as incorrect attributions of deaths by covid19 vs death with covid19-i remember in the early days of the outbreak coming across cdc directives that instructed medical doctors professionals in hospitals to supercede cause of death with covid19 in any case if it has been detected, despite potentially dying of other comobordities, which i had found suspicious then only, but now it makes sense as to why they attempted to do that inorder to inflate death tolls and sensationalize it sadly, there are also strong links between the rollout of 5g contributing to weakened immune systems, and to, bill gates being tied to a vaccine agenda that i wouldnt rule out all yet, knowing how surreptitious government can be when they are funded by big pharma/telecom industry, thus we have to keep our common sense keen.
Why hasn’t this guy replaced Fauci?
Both Fauci and this guy are great doctors, no need to hate on either
This guy, with Dr. Knut Wittkowskiand those two CA doctors all look at factual data and are in concurrence. It would be great to have them all get together and hold a press conference.
Dee Snider I completely agree. The guy is corrupt.
@@LM17PRO sorry mate Fauci a criminal! Just ask Dr. Judy Mikovits
@@rfpeace ah Mikovits the xmrv virus touter for cfs.
Greetings from germany! I wish we had experts like dr. Ioanidis. 😔
You do - Professior Knut Wittkowski is a brave scientist speaking the truth about this exaggerated "crisis"
You do have experts. What about Professor Streeck? Professor Püschel? Dr. Witkowski (even though he lives in New York now.) There should be many more. I hope that they would come forward.
Prof. Dr. Suchart Bhakdi
Dr. Wodarg
Prof. Karin Mölling
Dr. Bodo Schiffmann
Prof. Klaus Püschel
Prof. Dr. Hendrik Streeck
Dr. Knut Wittkowski
You have plenty of experts who are speaking out against this. The government just doesn't listen.
Prof. Bhakdi! ua-cam.com/video/xc-e8zaxicQ/v-deo.html
Thank you very much from Munich.
You mean the light to me in this dark time. You can be really proud of you!
anders tegnell ( swedens chief epidemeologist ) recent comment that 25 % of the swedish population have been infected( by may 9th ) bears up Dr Ioannidis' study . 25 % OF Sweden's population would amount to circa 2,600,000 people . Sweden has had circa 3000 deaths . This indicates an infection fatality rate of circa 0.12 percent which is bang on with Ionnaidis study.
That would mean they only have 7500 more deaths to go.,possibly. And that would translate into 270,000 deaths in the US. Something to think about. With a population 36 times more
More lies, that was prevalence in Stockholm only, not sweden. Stockholm fatalities percapita are 2X larger than Sweden as a whole or something, so there would be a higher IFR than you are saying, again contradicting Dr JetBlue conflict of interest Ioannidis.
People will believe what the media tells them they believe._____George Orwell the author of the book 1984 which is a must read for ALL of us.
Also read animal farm by Orwell and brave new world by Aldous Huxley
1984 is our new reality coming to fruition. :/
Jesus is everyone’s Only Hope.
Man suffers self inflicted gunshot wound to the head, dies of COVID-19
LOL but sadly a lot of suicides from depression WILL BE death by COVID 19, er, by gov response to COVID
Justin Olmstead rest assured and do not worry, those deaths will also be coded as COVID deaths.
lucky they don't count abortions as covid... that would really spike the numbers.
@@justinolmstead8086 We have several of those in Romania... One man hang himself after he was fined with 500 usd (which is huge for Romania) because he forgot to write a "declaration" which anyone in my country (except the police, secret services etc) is forced to write when go outside.
Brain dead if you think this
One of the only doctors speaking truth
Parts of it, yes.
Nah, there's lots actually. You just don't hear about them on TV
Mojebi oh trust me I know man
Check out, if you want, doctors Rashid Buttar, Andrew Kaufman, Judy Mikovits
Will he be banned or chased out of his profession?
We need to protect this hero
Thank you for the voice of sanity. We should NEVER have closed down.
Chinese government didn't need to impose lockdown, population had already reached herd immunity, but Li Wenliang an ophthalmologist who worked as a physician at Wuhan Central Hospital posted on Wechat he had obtained information that it was a SARS virus which freaked the Chinese people so government enacted a lock down to reassure them?
If you're interested in what a real nurse thinks about, please read my comment above. thank you
This video says the exact opposite.
The speaker literally said shutting down was the right thing to do. Now it's time for a slow open.
The video doesn't say that. Comprehension can't be taught?
Thank god there are scientists like this guy
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
Do you like our pandemic?
It's artificial?
Of course it is...
".....like tears in the rain.... time to die"
You mean "That's what it is to be married".
That's it. I try to explain this to my family, they don't get it. Everyone is consumed with fear. Fear of our own shaddows.
Thank you, replicant.
Since this study has come under fire, it would strengthen Dr Ioannidis' point if it could be repeated in multiple areas to see if the stats are consistent.
They did something similar in New York and estimated a 0.5% infection fatality rate. www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-york-virus-deaths-top-15k-cuomo-expected-to-detail-plan-to-fight-nursing-home-outbreaks/2386556/
The doctors in Bakersfield found similar rates.
And studies from Germany, Iceland, LA County, New York, Boston and many more...
from the very beginning of this world-wide hoax there's the Diamond Princess data showing THE SAME.
No. This has nothing to do with data nor science. This is about a world-wide take-over by the same banksters as always. CONTROL. Technopharmacodictatorship.
@@mojebi3804 All of them had a lower mortality rate than what is observed (which is obvious, because we can't test everyone), but the mortality rate across those studies is not the same. The one in this video is very low.
Dr. Ioannidis, Thank-you for your honesty! 🙏🏻
People RIPPED this study when it came out because of its low ifr. Over a year later, CDC confirms a 0.185% ifr. At the time, some where projecting 0.4 -1.0 ifr and I even saw up to 5.0. This whole situation was the absolute worst social disaster of my lifetime and I don't see how it can ever be topped. Lots of people need to go to prison for the rest of their lives.
keep it coming, gentlemen, 'cause it's gonna take a whole lot more talks like this one from qualified, principled professionals like Dr. Ioannidis to get the teeming masses out of the "deer in the headlights" state in which live their life these days....
Sad but true.
A hospital room with a negative air pressure setup sits ready for a COVID-19 patient at Bethesda Hospital in St. Paul on March 26, 2020. Instructions to count deaths from “presumed” COVID-19 cases, not just confirmed cases, are met with acceptance for some and criticism from others.
Evan Frost | MPR News file
www.mprnews.org/amp/story/2020/04/07/covid19-death-certificate-change-stirs-controversy?__twitter_impression=true
@@wafou8702 They want to bump the numbers up to keep their narrative alive. Facts. 35k+ per case per hospital. Corruption to the core.
You are absolutely right!!!!
wow. this should be on the news !! greetings from germany
I don't know what you watch but Streeck's IFR is at 0.36% from the Gangelt study and Drosten speaks of 0.45%... they're not differing from the opinion of Mr Ioannidis.
I can't be the only one who read "Corona circus"
I've read it like this too!
We should use that - it's apt and will get around the filters, for now
@@maxprivus i think you are so right- it defines the current situation to the point!
what's the link? Is it an article or book?
I read "Panische Grippe" German for Panic Flu
When reality contradicts studies, everyone is free to choose what to believe .
reality is even less dramatic than studies. the drama occurs in the mainstream media who focuse on the most sprctacular single cases
why did medrxiv remove all comments on Dr. Loannisdis Santa Clara study? what is the status of the peer review?
I think calling it "Coranacircus" is deliberate sarcasm.
@@RicardoPetrazzi all comments under the Santa Clara study have been removed by medRxiv, not sure what is happening there
chedca Where’s the peer review for the original paper that started this whole scam?
I constantly mention Dr. Ionnaidis to anyone on social media. Thank you Dr. Ioannaidis for your expertise and courage.
"Hospitals are the worse place to fight Covid-19" truer words have never been spoken. Thank you!
Michael Piatt You’re absolutely right my friend. Get plenty of fresh air, sunshine, and take plenty of vitamin c along with zinc to boost your immune system.
@@nickxcore74 My doctor gave me the exact advice and is even sending me a zinc and multivitamin supplement at no cost. Yet, people aren't allowed to share same info. in videos now on UA-cam because it now violates the TOS. Makes no sense.
@@nickxcore74 Vitamin D too
How come this video doesn't become viral??? Dr.Ioannidis is such a voice of sanity. Thank you!!! Thank you Journeyman pictures!!! All over the world there are these voices. Same craziness in Germany...unbelievable. I'm truly worried about what is going on all over the world...
I could listen to him talking, for hours.
you could watch it on loop :P
Doctor Ioannidis is NOT saying the lockdown measures in the US were wrong. Specifically he says in this video. "It was a very sound approach". He is in fact saying what is now needed is sensible easing of restrictions. Let's hope our leaders do just that.
He's just not the type of person to say such a thing. And UA-cam is censoring anything that contradicts the CDC or WHO. The numbers resemble the flu. None of This was necessary.
@@colintaylor5445 Well, here's a little experiment. Type Dr. Ioannidis into UA-cam search and all his videos appear.. I'm watching the whole series of videos from Dr. Wittowski who is very critical of Fauci and the CDC. And I've watched many other videos that are critical and still available. So please don't make statements like this that are so patently untrue.
@@colintaylor5445 Also are you suggesting that Dr. Ioannidis is lying when he says the approach taken in the US wa a very sound approach? He seems a very honest and sincere person and I'm sure would be offended that you call him a liar. As for the numbers resembling the flu...over 62,000 deaths in about a 6 week period. Would have been even higher without lockdown and will be higher again when the add in deaths in nursing facilities and at home. That number of deaths in no way resembles the flu.
First it was flatten the curve. Now it's wipe out all death.
52marli I know! Now it’s turned into we all sit home until there’s a vaccine? Ridiculous.
Exactly!!!
Just out of curiosity... I downloaded the CDC's data (www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm) then plugged it into a spreadsheet. Their data as of Apr 29 shows 33513 deaths attributed to COVID. I broke it down into 3 age groups: 1-44; 45-64; 65 and up; percentages rounded.
Ages 1-44 shows 926 deaths or 2.8% of all such deaths.
Ages 45-64 shows 5920 deaths or 17.6% of all such deaths.
Ages 65+ shows 26667 deaths or 79.6% of all such deaths.
So while it isn't only old people, there are typically underlying reasons why the young (below 65) have complications with the virus. There are too many to list, but include obesity, high blood pressure, other unrelated diseases, and compromised immune system.
Of course there will continue to be deaths as the isolation is undone. It is a fact that stress, lack of exercise, lack of sunlight, alcohol abuse, and other factors that are occuring as people sit at home weakens the immune system. In effect releasing people with weakened immune systems DUE TO FORCED ISOLATION to a wider contact range.
So what came first? The chicken or the egg?
The point is - the people under 44 should absolutely return to work and continue life. People 45-64 should also return to normal life, but take extra precautions if they have unusual medical conditions. Those 65+ (typically retired at this point) should try to isolate themselves from large gatherings/high interpersonal areas/public transportation etc... as practically as possible and follow good sanitary protocols (disposable masks(!), hand sanitizers, etc).
@s bright Bingo
@s bright wait, wait, wait. One excuse after another.
Thanks God for Sweden! 🇸🇪
Without Sweden's common sense, we would not really know that lockdowns and masks are useless
gee I wonder why none of the mainstream news invites him.
The mainstream news people are scared already - waiting for the first to jump over the cliff - then all can follow -even maybe we all too ?! Stupid hysteria make us all hidden and scare.....
Because they all follow government's plan. Of course they won't show this becausr if they did then the truth would come out. But do they want that to happen? no.
Best Doctor ever. Calm and serious voice. I respect him.
Why the media don’t listen to people like this says a lot about this whole situation. Shocking
"Avoid panic " ... something that the MSM don't want to understand
The MSM consciously use fear and panic to propagandize their audience into social conformity for the purpose of political control. They are communists.
A voice of reason and logic in this troubled time. Thank you with all my heart Doctor Ioannidis!
I am writing from Germany and i want say that i am verry proud of the swedish people that they resist the massiv presure from the rest of the EC. And i want to say thank you to you and your team for broadcasting this important information.
The title is kinda right ..."coronacircus"
that was the first thing that caught my eye. is this a joke?
Covid 1984
I live in Sweden, and let me tell you; the Swedish government got a lot of critique in the beginning, both from its own citizens and abroad.
However, the experts and health authorities in Sweden kept their cool and just followed the data all along to make their recommendations, and with time the data matured and got more and more accurate.
This is why science is the better way to assess things and make decisions; not commerce, nor panic, nor politics, nor mainstream media, nor social media. No one and nothing will add the same reason to the table than science. I hope people will remember this in the future.
Some studies are bad studies, though.
@@amandadangerfieldpiano Absolutely. But the answer to bad science and bad studies is always better science and better studies. Some people discard science as a method for truth seeking and rather rely on government or religion because "science can't answer XYZ".
Ευχαριστούμε πολύ ντόκτορ Ιωαννίδη!! Μακάρι όλος ο κόσμος να άκουγε τις ομιλίες σας!! 🇨🇾
Journeyman Pictures. I hit that bell, subscribed.
This is why the tests are not very telling yet of true immunity and risks- taken from Science magazine:
Yet Twitter threads and blog posts outlined a litany of apparent problems with the Santa Clara study. Recruiting through Facebook likely attracted people with COVID-19-like symptoms who wanted to be tested, boosting the apparent positive rate. Because the absolute numbers of positive tests were so small, false positives may have been nearly as common as real infections. The study also had relatively few participants from low-income and minority populations, meaning the statistical adjustments the researchers made could be way off. “I think the authors of the paper owe us all an apology,” wrote Columbia University statistician and political scientist Andrew Gelman in an online commentary. The numbers “were essentially the product of a statistical error.” Bhattacharya says he is preparing an appendix that addresses the criticisms. But, he says, “The argument that the test is not specific enough to detect real positives is deeply flawed.”
New York and LA studies found similar results. Many more results will come out soon. It's very unlikely, and even outrageous to claim that all these studies are "the product of a statistical error."
If the poorer demographics are underrepresented in the study, that is indeed a sampling problem, but it may bear out a higher previous infection rate since it is lower socio-economic population. So, if the numbers are skewed--the "statistical error"--they are likely skewed to artificially *lower* the apparent infection spread in study results. So the study can still make modest claims about the infection rate while acknowledging this limit of the study (which they did). Better samples from low SES population might therefore show *higher* numbers than modest claims in this study, which means COVID may be even less dangerous as analyses become more granular and accurate.
From one Greek to another awesome job brother keep up the excellent work.
Sweden is actually a good example to estimate the case fatality rate. Stockholm had 1800 deaths (which is an underestimation according to the Swedish National Board of Health and Welfare). About 30% of the population in Stockholm have had the virus according to serological tests, ie 350k people. This corresponds to a case fatality rate 0.6%. Accounting for uncertainties in the seropositive rate after mild infections and the real number of deaths the IFR is likely somewhere between 0.4 and 0.8%.
Similar numbers are reported from NYC. 21% seropositive, ie 1.8 Mil; between 13k and 18k deaths gives an IFR of 0.7 to 1.0%.
The problem is that if you did this to other pathogens the same thing would happen. So it's not that SARS2 is less serious than we thought but that all viruses are lower in CFR than we thought. Just look at excess deaths.
I didn't think Google was allowing people to talk about science? How long until this is banned?
Great speech! We have so many intelligent people in this world but we do this idiotic shit. Unbelievable...
You're right Journeyman Pictures, it is a "Coronacircus!"
What a pity, that he is not telling us more about the study with which he found out, that the number of people who are infected is way higher than they thought. There are no reliable tests like that yet. Poor dr. Ioannidis.
It is stunning that a professor like him, should be scientifically minded, refuses to even mention the criticism he received from his peers over his faulty study.
What are those criticisms?
He has to be asked about it to refuse, btw.
No he is not. Have a look at : facebook.com/cnn/videos/234683567820173/
Thank you from Germany!
We are getting into something really dangerous here and drag the whole world with us.. I honestly say thank you for the help. I can tell this won't be anywhere on German news ...
Apparently there are issues with the antibody test, I'd love to hear his opinions on this
They factored in the rate of false positives in their study
I clicked on this video thinking it was featuring Ron Jeremy, but ended up learning a lot about COVID-19. Thanks for the informative video, doctor.
Any response to the criticism of the Santa Clara study design and statistical analysis?
No response in this videa and it certainly doesn't help his credibility that he makes no reference to criticism from several experts regarding the way the sample was recruited, the potential inaccuracy of the test and what seemed to be confusion in comparing infection mortality rate for Covid 19 with case fatality rate for flu. It may well be that there are good arguments to refute these criticisms but so disappointing that he doens't even acknowledge them.
@Natural Man I've seen some of them and potentially the questions that have been raised about the Santa Clara study may apply more broadly. However I'm not disagreeing with the observation that the % of the population infected may be higher than initially thought. I just want to see well run studies that aren't subject to bias since if we want to make good decisions on what to do we need to act on the basis of good data.. There have been serious questions raised about this study and I would like to have seen Dr. I. at least acknowledge this.
John Ioannidis has been the most spot on scientist during this entire thing imo. Using data and always scrutinizing that data and asking new questions in relation to the data and being open to the results good or bad and then doing it over and over. That is how you science.
Thanks Dr. Jhon lioannidas for this information.❤ from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Patrida, you are like an oasis in the middle of the desert of misinformation and media propaganda! Thank you!
I'm surprised this is still up
Thank you so much. Its criminal that this is not more widely covered. Truly appreciate your efforts
Where did the Dr Dan Erickson video go ?
Still there. People continue to upload it. I suggest downloading it. ua-cam.com/video/h_EwxG8YZ50/v-deo.html
There is something about his soft spoken voice that says ‘sanity and rational thought’.
I assume this was republished because youtube axed it for misinformation, but his Sweden comments haven't aged well.
@@gunnarlandin3258 Not the case. Sweden just hit the confirmation limit again.
Just for context.... in March 2020, this guy wrote
“If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population - a mid-range guess from my Diamond Princess analysis - and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this would translate to about 10,000 deaths.”
We now know that he was off by a factor of more than 50x.... which leads me to believe that there was some flaw in his analysis
Bogus death counts using test instructions that were revised on Jan 20 by the WHO , throwing any PCR based stats prior to that out the window. Google WHO Jan 20
@@chedca
I am not sure of your point. But I looked into the issue and found this link....
which seems at variance to the point you are making
www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-who-instructions-pcr-guidan/fact-check-who-released-guidance-on-proper-use-of-tests-it-did-not-admit-pcr-tests-showed-inflated-infection-numbers-idUSKBN2A429W
@@MrArdytube quote from your link "The WHO’s guidance was meant to remind labs to conduct the tests with the instructions provided in order to ensure accuracy in the results." Are you saying the link you provided shows labs were not using PCR tests irresponsibly? That would be wrong because evidence shows they were thus the reminder from WHO : www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
@@chedca
Actually, I am not sure what we are discussing
I quoted the person in the video as basically making the point that the death rate for covid was about .3%
I then projected that onto the number of cases that are recorded
And came up with a total number of expected deaths of about 10,000
Which I not is dramatically not correct
Which then I conclude that the death rate projected by the guy in the video is wrong.... for whatever reason
What is your point in response?
@@MrArdytube your comparison is using old data shown to be false, the positivity rate should be assumed as mostly being made of false positives if labs have been shown to run tests more sensitive than what is recommended by the WHO. Additionally your figure of 0.3% is not what is found by Ioannidis's seroprevelance study which can be found here; www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/99/1/20-265892/en/
You can see that 0.31% is the absolutely highest value and the median is actually 0.05% which infectious disease specialists recognize as being akin to seasonal flu. Professional comment to that respect can be found here; www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4509/rr , additionally here is an example of a similar infection fatality rate (H1N1 in England from 2009) " corresponds to an estimated CFR of 0.04% "www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/ese.14.33.19309-en
Next time you think you can correct the world's most cited epidemiologist alive today, consider that there may be some misunderstanding on your part.
The WHO praised Sweden yesterday. Said they are a model for other countries.
That REALLY surprised me but I wonder what the WHO has up their sleeve with that praise for Sweden.
The WHO and the CDC are known for speaking out of both sides of their mouths.
Sweden will be promoted as an example of how to keep a society functional with only minimal and selected lockdowns, voluntarily reduced social gatherings etc etc. The real motivation will be to model Sweden as a cashless society. Banknotes first appeared in Europe in 1661, in Sweden. Now those dangerous virus carrying paper notes and coins will be removed by 2023 according to the Swedes themselves. Apparently they are very close to elimination of the same. O Brave new world (order) that hath such people in in't.
Miss Information They have no freedom of speech or freedom of much of anything in Sweden.
@Miss Information Unfortunately I suspect that's what this is about.
Thank You Dr. Ioannidis for being willing to come forward and share your knowledge.
No exit,sounds like a never ending war.
Truth
If they push it much further with draconian enforcement they may well discover they have a more urgent danger to themselves than a virus.
Thank you Journeyman Pictures for bringing all this information to us. And we will gladly add another typo and call the thing "coronacircus".
Is this a new result or is this part of the interview drawn from the last study’s interview? If it’s the latter you shouldn’t post it as if it is a fresh one.
Basically what Dr Ioannidis wants to say is that if you (under 65) are not afraid of driving to work from home, then you should just dismiss the corona and go about your life as before!
Sorry, but there's no way the number of infected is 50 to 85 times more than documented. In NYC, that would mean that the number of infected is 15 to 26 million people. The population of NYC is 8.3 million. This desperately needs some serious peer review, though one can easily tell from Ioannidis conclusion that something is amiss. Most likely the test reliability was bad and the methodology for selecting who was tested was flawed.
Very glad you are onboard now Journeyman. Almost unsubscribed due to some questionable reports earlier.
Dr. Ionnidis based his first estimate on the Case Fatality Rate on the "Diamond Princess" cruise ship in March. He claimed that it will be about 0.03% and only 10.000 people would die in the US.
In the meanwhile 13 of the 712 positive cruise ship passengers have died of the Virus which results in a case fatality rate of 1.8% and not 0.03. Yet he completely ignores this development in his latest videos. The current death toll in the US is already 7 times higher (!) than his estimate and still rising, yet he keeps claiming that everyone is wrong but him.
This is crazy.
Thanks for your exposing the truth. Please read my many posts on this site. What is going on at Stanford is horrifying. What is worse is the naive public who is believing it. Indeed, it is crazy...and deadly.
Thank you Dr. Ioannidis for giving us a clear picture. I am happy that the freedom of speech still does exist.
A great scientist.
Thank you so much Dr. Ioannidis. God bless you. Είμαστε μαζί σας και σας χρειαζόμαστε. . Συνεχίστε παρακαλώ τον αγώνα. ..
His study is biased. The sample was taken by a fb add. This means that more people who thought they had coronavirus volunteered.
Congrats to Sweeden they saw through this crisis and they saved thousands of people in the longterm with this tactic..Here in Greece the goverment with the strict measures saved many people for now, however how many people will drive to depression, suicides e.t.c in the next 2 years?
Accuracy of the test is still in question. Please give stats for that.
How about the test for infection? Or all the cases that are being just called covid when people die of something else but also have covid
Dr Ionnidis what is the population density of Sweden and what is that of Switzerland. I think you know where I m getting with this
I know...I know...it is 10 times less dense than Switzerland and is located geographically much further away from the Italy, France, Spain hot zones than Switzerland is. And, as of this morning, Sweden's death rate is 244/million population compared to Switzerland's 196/million population making Sweden's death rate from Covid-19 25% higher than Sweden (and the gap will certainly be widening even more as time passes). Other than that I have no clue what you are "getting at with this". LOL
Note: source = www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries for the data...but who wants to be data driven???
Thanks, G Kara, we have got to keep getting reality and truth 'out there'!!!
Real data. I'm surprised UA-cam has allowed this to stay up.
I have been saying that this is EXACTLY what happened where I live in Spain (non-serious symptomatic cases flocking to hospitals). Due in large part to "free" health care, people here rush to the "medico" or doctors office at the slightest hint of a problem with anything. My wife and I both had the thing and as we chatted with Spanish friends via text, they all urged us to "go to the hospital!" even though we had no issues that warranted the risk of infecting others (we self-quarantined for 2 weeks after we recovered). I am convinced that anyone with slightest symptoms rushed to the hospital / doctor and created a kind of covd distribution centers. Of course in Madrid, the worst hit, public transportation (they have an awesome metro system in Madrid) and crowded urban environments, along with cultural customs that encourage physical touching and close interaction, contributed greatly to the explosion here.
Yo, the way they mistakenly spelled ‘Coronavirus’.
@foreigner fan ?
Just 2 wks needed to show how poor Dr Ion. predictions were. Sad part is that all US predictions have been and continue being wrong. We are stubbornly heading in the wrong direction. It seems that is the best we can offer...
On the keyboard, "c" is next to "v"
V is a film for our time, it takes place in the year 2020, a virus is released killing 250,000, state actors profit from the sale of drugs, the authorities take totalitarian control over the masses, America goes into a state of civil unrest, and the media unleashes a torrent of shame aimed at those seeking freedom.
He says that Switzerland had Draconian measures in place, but that's only a paraphrase of the Swiss name for their actions. In fact they were far less strict than , say UK or Germany. As far as I can see, individuals were still free to come and go as they pleased, there was merely a recommendation to stay at home, especially for the vulnerable, while inessential businesses were closed and gatherings of more than 5 were banned. Despite the liberal restrictions, the country is pretty much coming out of the crisis, and many businesses are being allowed to re-open. All of which strengthens the conclusions that Dr Ioannidis has reached, and demonstrates that strict locking down is unnecessary when other measures like closing borders are taken; plus Switzerland and Sweden do not have the problem of how to get out of lockdown without the case numbers going up again.
AntonHu Switzerland was also very much affected by the fact that it neighbors the most affected areas in Italy (aka Northern Italy) and where travels between the two countries are more than frequent.
We need to replace Dr Fauci with this Dr.
Thank you for the common sense approach based on science - please get this to the authorities so we are not being driven by corporate and pharmaceutical interests.
if coronavirus isnt bad, then how do you explain what's happening to Nick Cordero??
@Fred Flintstone yeah but the flu doesn't kill healthy 40 yr Olds or cause people in their thirties to have strokes
@@chrishick4515 I knew someone in their 20's who died from a cold, was a fit and healthy woman, and cases of colds causing strokes too. The common cold must be very bad also.
Sunday August 30, Dr Iondonnis was correct! Who here came back to this video?!!!
just a lay person, but why make the comparison to driving safety? it makes the study appear frivolous
It helps me because it puts what sounds scary into context that I can relate to. Think this is why he uses the analogy :)
The point is that we all face and take risks every single day simply by going about our daily lives - and it sheds light on the absurdity of government responses, fueled by fear and hysteria
Lemi Lemi - yes, it does nothing for his credibility. I hope his stuff is correct but making shite comparisons is bollocks.
Driving is dangerous. People die every day from accidents. We are accustomed to how dangerous driving is. He was attempting to make the threat of the virus relatable to us. It's one thing to see a number, it's another to know how that number actually relates to us. He was adding context so the average person could understand better.
Ithina Van-Gouda - 😂😂😂 nope. A) You are assuming there is an “average person” B) comparing apples and oranges simply doesn’t work.
Hey @journeyman pictures, upon clicking on the website URL it says that the page doesn’t exist. Either check what’s going on or please paste a valid link in the bio. PLEASE include this doctor’s studies too. Thanks
His hair is absolutely amazing. Can't take my eyes off it.
But only combined with the moustache!
Ευχαριστούμε γιατρέ! Μια καθησυχαστικη φωνή. Χαιρετισμούς απ' την Βιέννη!
Ευχαριστώ και γω κύριε καθηγητά χερετισματα από Γερμανία
It makes me so sad Elon musk is getting so much hate.
He'll be on Mars in 15 years. The Blue Tick Gaystapo will still be moaning about minutiae on Earth.
Can you please share the the peer review of this study?
Ioannidis still is ignoring the selection bias and false positive issues that marred the results from the Santa Clara study. He's also ignoring mortality rate and seroprevalance results from the State of New York and the Netherlands that are quite inconsistent with the Santa Clara study and that rather point of an infection fatality rate over 0.6%. He's also making an apple to orange comparison between COVID-19 and the flu when he compares the IFR for COVID-19 with the 0.1% average case fatality rate (CFR) for the seasonal flu. The IFR for the flu is closer to 0.06% according to infectious disease specialists. In any case, the 0.1% figure from the CDC is a case fatality rate based on symptomatic cases and it's misleading to compare it to the IFR for COVID-19.
What about the number of deaths being labelled as Covid just 'cuz
So how much over the norm are world mortality figures overall since the first outbreak?
Not sure about the world as a whole, but CDC web reports show that the US has a slightly lower death rate overall than normal - total deaths are at about 96% of expected deaths - rates did spike for a couple of weeks, I think in the 112% range, but came back down
@Julian Katz
His numbers match data from all over the world.
Washington Post always have been the most reliable source of medical information, I hope 🤞 I’ll continue to read this real source of truth after pleasant vaccination,if I stayed alive
Any updates on their other studies, like the nationwide one with MLB ?
Corona circus yes we know.
There is a lot of criticism of his study and I agree on them. His study has a set of problems and I don't understand why he is pushing forward. Nothing is - that - clear at this moment. But that's the beauty of science: critical discussions.
You can google it.
This study is far more reliable then all the numbers the CDC is 'testing' and telling (antigen testing has no value concerning immunity) and what this clearly indicates, just as in Europe and even when critically concerning Chinese figures is a simple fact: the infection fatality rate was completely misjudged on a wrong input in a not validated model as Imperial College in London did. The problem is that even criticism will not worsen the body count which in total; will be below 0,3 of infected, meaning: just as bad as the flu. It also means that over 99.6 % of infected will heal, that's nothing to be afraid of as far as I am concerned, also the hospital system hast not been overwhelmed in the US, only in countries with less functional healthcare as Italy and in a lesser way Spain.
Great video. Cheered me up!
I find it hard to believe they are still citing this study when it has been peer reviewed to be totally flawed.
Agreed!
Hi Tom, please would you supply me the info on this study, so I can check it out for myself. Many thanks.
@@robertlincoln7312 Look at the comment section where the preprint is being hosted, at medrxiv. Search for Santa Clara COVID 19.
@@pokerandphilosophy8328 Thank you.
Where can I read the peer reviewed publication for this study please? And are the data available for study?
Dr. Ioannidis seems to have a “Let’s roll the dice” approach to pandemics.
Data > Models
Well the computer models were proven to be completely wrong... Not for the first time!
You`re the MAN! But where can i find the study to show this more people?
One of the intelligent HEROS !👌👏👍 Im very proud of you. Greetings from Switzerland !