Tein Flex was too soft for us. BC was much better for all around and provide more of a completed package for just at $1k price point. KW V3 will run about $1900 and doesn’t come with the top head.
Strange to see Mugen wheels and BC coilovers. I hear Ohlins is discontinued and Spoon is very stiff on the street. I found the Tein Monosport unbearable on local bumpy back roads. I switched to Spoon progressive springs and matching Spoon shocks. No height adjustment but I like the balance for street and track use. I respect that CT engineering icebox! I run the same one.
Our Tein Flex was always a bit too soft to our liking. Ohlins and Spoon can get comfortable due to the damper design and high spring rates. It really opened my eyes when I found how well the prototype BC Coilovers behave on our 2021 TLX. Made us really look into their completely new lineup of products. For just about half of the price of KW V3, I think it’s a phenomenal value. BC x Mugen wheels might just be the new trend 😃
No audio at the most important part lol. What were the spring rates and how did the ride quality feel? I'm trying to go like a oem plus ride. Massive 8k front 7k rear (500lb/in front 450 lb/ in rear)
Since this car was completely restored about 2 years ago, things do look much cleaner than most. Yet we do not drive this vehicle in the rain only with hood sunny weather. But 500 miles a year might not be far away 😄
i have a green 97 GS, 5 speed, 130k miles, cali car, a true gem for the age....i get asked all the time "what year is that?" and "can i buy that off you right now bro ill get cash"
Install looked like it went fine Mike but we don't know how it drove as like others have mentioned the audio cut out when the test drive started 😲🤭😂 John UK
Not sure what happened John. We definitely need to do a better job on the next video. Apologize for the audio issue. Thanks for your continued support.
Hi Mike, let us know how the BC compare to the Tein Flex, no sound after your installation :( . I am using Tein Flex Z on my EK4 now, thinking to change them out too. The Tein Flex Z coilover just don't feel right.
@@Inthirath There is something wrong with the Tein Flex Z, some of my friends also say its just throwing them around on uneven road and don't feel "coordinated".
Allegedly Tein and other jdm manufacturers take into account the smooth and long curvature of Japanese roads. While usdm coilovers tend to work better with potholes, divets and a harsher road surface in N America.
Our Tein Flex is just a bit too soft to our liking, specially on low speed compression dampening. BC has the best all around package with ride and comfort yet just firm enough to be fun to drive and confident on turns.
@@ahcgarage Thank you guys for your personal opinion. Its very helpful! Thus I decided to roll on Tein Flex Z in the CL7 because I want more of an oem feel for a daily. I mean its an Accord not a racecar. However for the Integra Type R, I decided to go with Koni Yellows and Ground Controls for more of a stiffer weekend/track day feel. 👍❤
@@FrankieJ1981 Only Tein Flex and above models are made in Japan. They are not bad coilover. BC just provides a just better all around package comparing to our Tein Flex.
Maybe a air suspension that raises and lowers the truck ride height. Maybe a turbo charger added to increase hp and torque. Underbody skid plate. Hydraulic hood props. Maybe cooler rims and grippier tires.
Queen City NC here, grew up in Davie tho! The palm trees outside bring me back. just came across this channel. How long has AHC been around? Always see bays loaded with rare stuff. Super professional. Love this content. Subbed!
I personally own a 95 civic with tein super street with the pillow ball mounts and i own a 06 tsx with tein street advance and I noticed a difference in the quality of the ride and the parts are just a better quality metal too the super street are made in Japan and the street advance made in china …I personally wouldn’t buy another china or Taiwan made product for suspension I wanna stick to USA or Japan made coilovers.im thinking of going with fortune auto for my Dc2 next
Couldn’t agreed more. Unfortunately we lost audio toward the end of this video. However, these BC BR Coilovers are much more superior comparing to our Tein.
@@ahcgarage well glad to hear they came out how you guys wanted it i might try them out and what you guys think about ktuned ?and no worries difficulties happen often
Hey AHC, I was trying to find a video on Tein Flex vs BC Racing BR. Well that tourney out well. Too bad the audio kicked off, but I read through the comments and noticed your guys liked the BRs over the Flex’s? Good to know. Also, are the ITR front forks shorter than the 92-95 civic forks? I have the Hardrace RLCA for my HB. Hardrace parts are almost all out of stock. Will be getting the FLCA too.
We had some audio issue toward the end of the video. As for the coilover, we preferred the BC over the Tein Flex on our ITR. Tein overall is a bit too soft and BC offered a much better overall package, especially at low speed compression
The internal shock construction is different. Tein Flex is just a bit too soft to our liking. BC has the best all around package at just about the same price point.
We apologize for the audio issue. The BC is a much firmer coilover comparing to Tein Flex. Very happy with both low and high speed compression damping.
The BC box says 5K spring rate in the rear. I know the tein flex is 10k F 7k R. Is the BC softer or firmer in the rear? Also, did you have any issues bottoming out with the Tein Flex? I was initially planning on running those on my integra?
The issue for the Tein Flex is in the front for us. With the right spring Pre-load and dampening setting along with the ride height, it tends to bottom out on certain bumps. Soften the dampening helps yet it soften the rebounds. We spent months of getting it right but isn’t what we looking for. We are not claiming Tein Flex isn’t good, just not what we are looking for and maybe not match well with the DC2 application.
@@ahcgarage I wonder if tein provides firmer front springs to help address this issue, but it seems like it could also be a product of poorly matched dampening for this application. I just got mine in the mail today, but will do a bit more research before installing them. Thanks again for the feedback.
@@ahcgarageCould you test out the Tanabe Revel suspension how that rides? It’s between BC racing or Tanabe Revel. No one has reviews on Tanabe yet maybe you guys can be the first. I’m definitely getting Tanabe exhaust. Where can I get r side skirts and back lip? Shit is getting hard to find. Thank you AHC.
Good that you mentioned Tanabe Revel. Since they are about the same price point and we were super interested to test them out however they do not have ITR DC2 application.
I got a $550 set of Yonakas Spec 2's and they are dope asf, build quality is top notch, can go lower than those BC's, 12k springs up front, 6k in rear, and 28 way adjustable damping (Which is more than enough for street use). So why do you guys spend damn near $1500 on coilovers? Do yall do it just because everyone else is doing it?
Specs on the Coilovers and most parts do not mean much unless it performs. Drive quality and all around performance is what we looking for. BC BR coilover MSRP is just under $1k at $995. The intention of our video is to help our community. We have better things to do than just spending “$1500” because “everyone else is doing it”.
@@ahcgarage The ride quality is awesome, every bit as good as any other coilover, and the performance is great. I have a touge style road in my neighborhood, and that's where i go to test. These Yonaka's performed every bit, as good if not better than the Fortune Auto's my friend has on his car. He drove my car and couldn't believe I paid under $600 shipping included for my coilovers. Needless to say he was one of those guys who purchased his brand because everyone else had them, and literally got robbed for $600. He couldn't even go as low as me, and I had stiffer springs than him. So if a person can literally pay half the price and have coilovers that are just as good if not better than the high priced one's, then how is that helping people? Everyone already know's about BC coilover's, but does everyone know about Yonaka's?
@@zachsfat989 😆🤣 Is your car on the track 100% of the time? If so, then cool, go get the most overpriced Coilovers you can find, but if you drive the car on the road 98% of the time, and you still choose to spend that much on suspension, then you're an absolute idi0t. 💯 These Yonakas perform and fill great on the road no matter what type of driving you're doing. 12k springs up front, 6k in the rear, adjustable 28 way dampening,, fully threaded, mono tube design. Inner bump stop, 4" drop, and rubber dust shield. Now if your BC's can do all that and has pretty much the same build quality, then why in the f*ck would you spend double the amount just because the next guy did? 😑😑 In your case, "Mama DID raise a f00L." Too many people just follow trends instead of making practical, sensible decisions.
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Hey there's no audio after the install. Great looking car, simple and clean
I thought my Chromecast was failing me...
We apologize for the audio issue. Thanks for watching
@@ahcgarage it proves that you are not superhumans at everything! Hehe!
That’s a great point 😅
Even with no audio at the end; STILL a clean set up and an awesome video. Thanks Mike !
We apologize for the audio issue. Thanks so much your support.
You can turn (by hand) the whole shaft once you break loose the locking nut to the coilover
Love all the videos!!! Thank you for all the amazing content.
Much appreciate your continued support
These guys are changing out parts that are perfectly fine... Tein > be ; I would have went with some Kw’s
KW does make a lot of sense since Ohlins is discontinued.
Tein Flex was too soft for us. BC was much better for all around and provide more of a completed package for just at $1k price point. KW V3 will run about $1900 and doesn’t come with the top head.
@@touringteg Ohlins spring rates are too high for all around uses. Plus price point is much higher than BC
Strange to see Mugen wheels and BC coilovers. I hear Ohlins is discontinued and Spoon is very stiff on the street. I found the Tein Monosport unbearable on local bumpy back roads. I switched to Spoon progressive springs and matching Spoon shocks. No height adjustment but I like the balance for street and track use. I respect that CT engineering icebox! I run the same one.
Our Tein Flex was always a bit too soft to our liking. Ohlins and Spoon can get comfortable due to the damper design and high spring rates. It really opened my eyes when I found how well the prototype BC Coilovers behave on our 2021 TLX. Made us really look into their completely new lineup of products. For just about half of the price of KW V3, I think it’s a phenomenal value. BC x Mugen wheels might just be the new trend 😃
No audio at the most important part lol. What were the spring rates and how did the ride quality feel? I'm trying to go like a oem plus ride. Massive 8k front 7k rear (500lb/in front 450 lb/ in rear)
Thing is beyond clean underneath. Looks like one of those 500 miles a year of that cars haha.
Since this car was completely restored about 2 years ago, things do look much cleaner than most. Yet we do not drive this vehicle in the rain only with hood sunny weather. But 500 miles a year might not be far away 😄
i have a green 97 GS, 5 speed, 130k miles, cali car, a true gem for the age....i get asked all the time "what year is that?" and "can i buy that off you right now bro ill get cash"
👍🏼👍🏼
Yeah Mike, clean build.. there's as issue will footage and audio after the install.
We apologize for the audio issue. Thanks for the support
Install looked like it went fine Mike but we don't know how it drove as like others have mentioned the audio cut out when the test drive started 😲🤭😂 John UK
Not sure what happened John. We definitely need to do a better job on the next video. Apologize for the audio issue. Thanks for your continued support.
This cars are going up in price and collectible
Man I love this car!
Much appreciate it
Hi Mike, let us know how the BC compare to the Tein Flex, no sound after your installation :( . I am using Tein Flex Z on my EK4 now, thinking to change them out too. The Tein Flex Z coilover just don't feel right.
i went from ff type 1 to tein flex which actually felt like a downgrade idk.. moved on to bcs and they feel better def more 'comfy' gl!
@@Inthirath There is something wrong with the Tein Flex Z, some of my friends also say its just throwing them around on uneven road and don't feel "coordinated".
Allegedly Tein and other jdm manufacturers take into account the smooth and long curvature of Japanese roads. While usdm coilovers tend to work better with potholes, divets and a harsher road surface in N America.
Our Tein Flex is just a bit too soft to our liking, specially on low speed compression dampening. BC has the best all around package with ride and comfort yet just firm enough to be fun to drive and confident on turns.
@@ahcgarage Thank you guys for your personal opinion. Its very helpful! Thus I decided to roll on Tein Flex Z in the CL7 because I want more of an oem feel for a daily. I mean its an Accord not a racecar. However for the Integra Type R, I decided to go with Koni Yellows and Ground Controls for more of a stiffer weekend/track day feel. 👍❤
I had BC BRs on my GSR. They're stiff alright! lmao. If I could do it again I would have went with Fortune Autos, a superior coilover IMO.
BR are different from Fortune Autos. The DS would be comparable since they’re both digressive.
@@253sam Agreed!!
incredible, cruel. A dream car ☠️👻
Cheers!!
that was clean! thank you for this was one of my dream cars, dreaming is free haha lets go
Hello from Columbus, OH.👍🏻 Car is looking great. There's some blackout and no audio toward end of video.
We apologize for the audio issue. We will ensure this won’t happens again.
Don't know if I could of taken the Tiens out and replace with BC's lol
@T R Because Teins are OG quality coils, better than most on the market today
@@FrankieJ1981 Only Tein Flex and above models are made in Japan. They are not bad coilover. BC just provides a just better all around package comparing to our Tein Flex.
Awesome video but the best part was cut out and missing the audio at the end! Can you repost?
We apologize for the audio issue. The BC Coilovers has a better all around package comparing to our Tein Flex.
Hey, will you guys ever do something on a honda ridgeline?
What would you like to see?
Maybe a air suspension that raises and lowers the truck ride height. Maybe a turbo charger added to increase hp and torque. Underbody skid plate. Hydraulic hood props. Maybe cooler rims and grippier tires.
@@ahcgarage Oh and maybe an upgraded sound system like the Acura ELS system
Hi from france
Cheers!!!
What's the name of those rims? They would look sick on my CRX.
Volk rays mf10
@@caesarguzman5831 Thank you I'm going to try and see if I can buy a set!
@@hippo780 you are right lol; I was confusing them with the c28n right?
Queen City NC here, grew up in Davie tho! The palm trees outside bring me back. just came across this channel. How long has AHC been around? Always see bays loaded with rare stuff. Super professional. Love this content. Subbed!
What a beautiful car !!!
Thanks a ton!!
Lookin phresh 🔥
Cheers!!!
I personally own a 95 civic with tein super street with the pillow ball mounts and i own a 06 tsx with tein street advance and I noticed a difference in the quality of the ride and the parts are just a better quality metal too the super street are made in Japan and the street advance made in china …I personally wouldn’t buy another china or Taiwan made product for suspension I wanna stick to USA or Japan made coilovers.im thinking of going with fortune auto for my Dc2 next
Couldn’t agreed more. Unfortunately we lost audio toward the end of this video. However, these BC BR Coilovers are much more superior comparing to our Tein.
@@ahcgarage well glad to hear they came out how you guys wanted it i might try them out and what you guys think about ktuned ?and no worries difficulties happen often
Hey AHC, I was trying to find a video on Tein Flex vs BC Racing BR. Well that tourney out well. Too bad the audio kicked off, but I read through the comments and noticed your guys liked the BRs over the Flex’s? Good to know. Also, are the ITR front forks shorter than the 92-95 civic forks? I have the Hardrace RLCA for my HB. Hardrace parts are almost all out of stock. Will be getting the FLCA too.
We had some audio issue toward the end of the video. As for the coilover, we preferred the BC over the Tein Flex on our ITR. Tein overall is a bit too soft and BC offered a much better overall package, especially at low speed compression
Is the spring rate on the bc and the twin the same rate
What are the rear on the bc that u guys chose
So how is the BC coilover stiffer compared to the teins when the spring rates you got were exactly the same as the flex z
The internal shock construction is different. Tein Flex is just a bit too soft to our liking. BC has the best all around package at just about the same price point.
Are BC rated better or was this a personal preference choice?
Our personal preference
Clean install i was curious to know how they felt, the audip went out tho. Fitment looks perfect!
We apologize for the audio issue. The BC is a much firmer coilover comparing to Tein Flex. Very happy with both low and high speed compression damping.
@@ahcgarage thanks man!
You’re welcome
Get the boys a discount code! I need some for my dc2
very informative. thanks for the video.
The BC box says 5K spring rate in the rear. I know the tein flex is 10k F 7k R. Is the BC softer or firmer in the rear? Also, did you have any issues bottoming out with the Tein Flex? I was initially planning on running those on my integra?
The issue for the Tein Flex is in the front for us. With the right spring Pre-load and dampening setting along with the ride height, it tends to bottom out on certain bumps. Soften the dampening helps yet it soften the rebounds. We spent months of getting it right but isn’t what we looking for. We are not claiming Tein Flex isn’t good, just not what we are looking for and maybe not match well with the DC2 application.
@@ahcgarage I wonder if tein provides firmer front springs to help address this issue, but it seems like it could also be a product of poorly matched dampening for this application. I just got mine in the mail today, but will do a bit more research before installing them. Thanks again for the feedback.
How did the car ride with these coil overs ? I think I’m going to get some for my integra.
It's a great setup. Highly recommended
@@ahcgarageCould you test out the Tanabe Revel suspension how that rides? It’s between BC racing or Tanabe Revel. No one has reviews on Tanabe yet maybe you guys can be the first. I’m definitely getting Tanabe exhaust. Where can I get r side skirts and back lip? Shit is getting hard to find. Thank you AHC.
Good that you mentioned Tanabe Revel. Since they are about the same price point and we were super interested to test them out however they do not have ITR DC2 application.
@@ahcgarage Application list says they have it for dc2. I forget itr has different components from gsr.
its perfect
Thanks. Cheers!!
Nice kandi bro
Is this a shop car?
It is sad that car manufacturers does not do Fender arches curvy like 90's cars, now they are doing flat around the wheels arches.
Nice video ,but no audio after the installation
So sorry for the audio issue
No problem. The Dc2 is awesome!
Thank you for the compliment!!
Don’t suppose you guys know the paint code for the oem rear lower tie brace/trunk brace? Thanks
Unfortunately we don’t
Looks like I lost volume towards the end of the review. Please fix it thanks
Will do. Sorry for the audio issue
Love the content song name?
0:18 I noticed the rear bumper on the right side the gap is not right below the rear lamp.
I got a $550 set of Yonakas Spec 2's and they are dope asf, build quality is top notch, can go lower than those BC's, 12k springs up front, 6k in rear, and 28 way adjustable damping (Which is more than enough for street use). So why do you guys spend damn near $1500 on coilovers? Do yall do it just because everyone else is doing it?
Specs on the Coilovers and most parts do not mean much unless it performs. Drive quality and all around performance is what we looking for. BC BR coilover MSRP is just under $1k at $995. The intention of our video is to help our community. We have better things to do than just spending “$1500” because “everyone else is doing it”.
@@ahcgarage The ride quality is awesome, every bit as good as any other coilover, and the performance is great. I have a touge style road in my neighborhood, and that's where i go to test.
These Yonaka's performed every bit, as good if not better than the Fortune Auto's my friend has on his car. He drove my car and couldn't believe I paid under $600 shipping included for my coilovers.
Needless to say he was one of those guys who purchased his brand because everyone else had them, and literally got robbed for $600. He couldn't even go as low as me, and I had stiffer springs than him.
So if a person can literally pay half the price and have coilovers that are just as good if not better than the high priced one's, then how is that helping people?
Everyone already know's about BC coilover's, but does everyone know about Yonaka's?
Nobody wants yonokas
@@zachsfat989 😆🤣 Is your car on the track 100% of the time? If so, then cool, go get the most overpriced Coilovers you can find, but if you drive the car on the road 98% of the time, and you still choose to spend that much on suspension, then you're an absolute idi0t. 💯
These Yonakas perform and fill great on the road no matter what type of driving you're doing. 12k springs up front, 6k in the rear, adjustable 28 way dampening,, fully threaded, mono tube design. Inner bump stop, 4" drop, and rubber dust shield.
Now if your BC's can do all that and has pretty much the same build quality, then why in the f*ck would you spend double the amount just because the next guy did? 😑😑 In your case, "Mama DID raise a f00L."
Too many people just follow trends instead of making practical, sensible decisions.
For sale?
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