Half-Derivative: Between a Function and its Derivative

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  • @aireyroblox
    @aireyroblox 2 дні тому +204

    Just wait until the developers add a quarter-derivative in the next update.

    • @soulevans7334
      @soulevans7334 2 дні тому +33

      That's just another real number. Boring. How about we do a complex order derivative. The (a+ib)th derivative.

    • @csmth96
      @csmth96 2 дні тому +10

      Next update would be i-th derivative. That is, half integration.

    • @hqTheToaster
      @hqTheToaster 2 дні тому +8

      Why not find the (Dual Number 0+1e)th derivative? half-joking.

    • @agent3555
      @agent3555 2 дні тому

      @@soulevans7334 or a + ib)th factorial maybe?

    • @denki2558
      @denki2558 2 дні тому +5

      You can already take that from yhis video already. Just replace n with 1/4 instead of 1/2 in the formula

  • @Discerned_
    @Discerned_ 2 дні тому +152

    Half derivative is either deriv or ative. Problem solved!

  • @Tomoko--kuroki
    @Tomoko--kuroki 2 дні тому +84

    Babe wake up Zundamon's theorem just uploaded

  • @Whynot690
    @Whynot690 День тому +34

    These two anime girls have taught me more complicated shit than my maths teacher.

  • @actinglegacy7589
    @actinglegacy7589 2 дні тому +56

    WAKE UP NEW ZUNDAMON THEOREM VIDEO DROPPED 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @floofynooplz4268
    @floofynooplz4268 2 дні тому +37

    thank you once again for the banger zundamon's theorem en! i feel smarter already 🗣🗣🗣

  • @robharwood3538
    @robharwood3538 День тому +12

    Zundamon @1:28: "I allow it." 😻
    Learning real math with 'kawaii' aesthetics is inexplicably adorable!

  • @αηομαλψ
    @αηομαλψ 2 дні тому +24

    wtf I love the fractional calculus now

  • @santana_atma
    @santana_atma 2 дні тому +19

    cant wait for discussion about grup theory

  • @friendly_sitie
    @friendly_sitie 2 дні тому +16

    absolute GEM

  • @arthurgames9610
    @arthurgames9610 10 годин тому +2

    This is awesome! I remember some years ago seeing a formula that generalized "xth derivatives" for all real number x (negative x would mean integration), and I remeber that it was some crazy integral formula that I gad difficulty understanding where it came from... could you do a video on that?
    Also, I love the Gamma and the Zeta function, could you do some videos going deepl into them and proving some of their properties? Thanks a lot for the channel

  • @darkknight1105
    @darkknight1105 2 дні тому +14

    I know it is time to sleep, but Zundamon takes precedence!

  • @haruma1618
    @haruma1618 2 дні тому +18

    Morphocular made a video on this, it's really interesting

  • @_papa_john
    @_papa_john 2 дні тому +19

    IF ZUNDAMON'S THEOREM LOVES MY POST I WILL DO ONE PUSHUP THEN READ THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @_papa_john
      @_papa_john 2 дні тому +11

      brb

    • @frzfrz6556
      @frzfrz6556 9 годин тому

      @@_papa_john What chapter are you on now ?

  • @RandomEG1234
    @RandomEG1234 14 годин тому +2

    hey zundamon, metan, can you take suggestions for videos if we have any math stuff we can't understand? I'm sure we'd all love that!

  • @Fram_CR
    @Fram_CR День тому +6

    4:36 no way my intuition was right

  • @MathewSan_
    @MathewSan_ 2 дні тому +9

    Great video as always 👍

  • @ashutoshsethi6150
    @ashutoshsethi6150 2 дні тому +8

    Zundamon is bacc

  • @KishanSharma-k8j
    @KishanSharma-k8j День тому +2

    Finally found a good math teacher! Love from 🇧🇹

  • @marble17
    @marble17 2 дні тому +11

    Me multiplying the d/dx with dx so that i only left out d

    •  День тому

      Actually that can be a valid thing to do in some cases (separable differential equations), but then you'd have to integrate both sides afterwards.

    • @marble17
      @marble17 День тому

      Wait it's actually a real method? I've written this comment as a joke

    •  День тому +1

      @@marble17 Yes, sort of. When solving separable differential equations, it's possible to "separate" the dx from the dy and let each be used as separate integration variables. It's a little bit of abuse of notation, but it works because of the chain rule, and it's very commonly done when solving this type of equation.

    • @marble17
      @marble17 День тому

      Damn, thanks for the new lesson I've learned :)

  • @typhoonnamikaze1567
    @typhoonnamikaze1567 День тому +4

    8:33
    when the figures are already smaller then whiteboard started scrolling*
    .
    Whoa, there's a lot happening here..💀

  • @NihalPushkar
    @NihalPushkar День тому +1

    finally you made a video on fractional derivatives

  • @kateknowles8055
    @kateknowles8055 День тому +1

    At university fifty years ago, now I am wondering how many lecturers really understood what they had to teach. It must be good for the lecturers today to discover these videos and learn how to slow the pace to match the capabilities fo their students..? ...maybe the tutors also learn well in the tutorials they give.
    Love to all mathematics students and lecturers. 🎎🎀📝✅

  • @doodlegarbage6769
    @doodlegarbage6769 16 годин тому +2

    I’m in university and somehow I’m learning math above my pay grade 💀

  • @kart_elon_xd
    @kart_elon_xd 2 дні тому +2

    I would never had thought I'd learn maths through a video with anime-like characters. Not complaining tho!

  • @성이름5
    @성이름5 День тому +3

    언제나 흥미로운 주제네요. 영상 잘 시청했습니다. ㅎㅎ
    일본어 채널도 잘 보고 있어요

  • @GVS2001
    @GVS2001 День тому +1

    tysm to my degree in engineering for making me able to understand Zundamon videos!

  • @GVS2001
    @GVS2001 День тому +1

    Very beauty that Derivatives meets Factorials

  • @xandermoore6485
    @xandermoore6485 16 годин тому +1

    definitely a much more intuitive way of explaining this than a lot of people have given. this has made me curious though, what if i took the derivative to the power of i of an expression? i suppose it would need to equal the dx/dy of the original expression when multipled with itself

  • @Maddieee99
    @Maddieee99 День тому +1

    another quality zundamons theorem upload

  • @bobbyheffley4955
    @bobbyheffley4955 День тому +1

    The gamma function yields values in terms of the square root of pi for fractions with a denominator of 2 and odd numerator.

  • @neologicalgamer3437
    @neologicalgamer3437 День тому +2

    There was a video by Morphocular that defined derivatives for all rational numbers!

  • @nomiwen
    @nomiwen 2 дні тому +2

    New Zundamon's Theorem vid dropped, let's gooooo

  • @TakoTrucker
    @TakoTrucker 2 дні тому +3

    welp gonna put off sleeping for 12 minutes

  • @itryen7632
    @itryen7632 День тому +2

    A half-derivative is just a spiritual successor. Problem solved.

  • @tongithebest2390
    @tongithebest2390 День тому +1

    Quite coincidental to think that I have started a few days back to go in depth on fractional calculus and you guys uploaded a video about it. I’m doing physics (not maths) and my intent is to find an approach for coordinate transformation under fractional calculus. It seems quite simple at first glance but there are several issues arising when trying to compute a “half-jacobian” as there exists asymmetry. Maybe one day I’ll find a solution

  • @youtubehd_evan749
    @youtubehd_evan749 2 дні тому +3

    Another banger has been dropped

  • @kaidatong1704
    @kaidatong1704 2 дні тому +3

    I'm 10% sure I saw comment in a prev video saying to make music less loud

    • @kaidatong1704
      @kaidatong1704 2 дні тому

      but it's too late. I can't unhear it

  • @itsohaya4096
    @itsohaya4096 День тому +3

    I love this I'm exactly the target audience for this lol

  • @Aeyrlol
    @Aeyrlol 2 дні тому +3

    New Zundamon LETS GOOOOO

  • @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca
    @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca 2 дні тому +2

    For a moment I wasted way more time than I intended when I started this video by reading up the wikipedia page of double factorials, but doing that helped me to notice that (2m)!! and (2m-1)!! fit nicely into the formulas of expressing double factorials with just factorials, for even and odd numbers:
    (2m)!! == (2^m)*m!
    (2m-1)!! == (2m)!/ (2^m)*m!
    What I get is:
    ( 2^2m)*((m!)^2) / ( (2m)! * sqrt(pi) )
    Which is not just unreadable, but also likely wrong.

  • @syrupthesaiyanturtle
    @syrupthesaiyanturtle 2 дні тому +4

    Now extend factorials for negative numbers

    • @al-ahsanabhro1070
      @al-ahsanabhro1070 2 дні тому

      Won't that just mean integration??

    • @syrupthesaiyanturtle
      @syrupthesaiyanturtle День тому

      @al-ahsanabhro1070 nah it means finding dx/d

    • @robharwood3538
      @robharwood3538 День тому

      It does exist, for all negatives numbers except for negative integers. I.e. the Gamma function exists everywhere except for Gamma(z) where z is an integer and z

  • @osakablinladen
    @osakablinladen 20 годин тому +1

    i could learn anything if only zundamon was teaching

  • @shres2712
    @shres2712 День тому +2

    Any recomendations about where to learn diffrential equations with fractional derivatives. I would prefer books as I can read faster than I can watch a video

  • @Speed001
    @Speed001 День тому +1

    2:29 ah, i see. How do i do that? Sounds like finding a first order derivative for second order derivative.
    4:02 4:22 6:48 So the gamma function is the generalized factorial
    Definitely a little complicated concept, I'd need to practice it.
    Thank you for sharing. How is this useful?
    The graph, ok, getting a middle function.

  • @broniarst
    @broniarst День тому +1

    zundamon is back with this one 🔥🔥

  • @conrad5342
    @conrad5342 2 дні тому +1

    Interesting to see x^2, its halfe derivative and 2x do not all intersect in a single point for x> 0. There are only pairwise intersections.

  • @0_a123z_0
    @0_a123z_0 2 дні тому +5

    ガンマ関数含む特殊関数の親玉的存在である「合流型超幾何微分方程式」を取り扱って欲しい。

  • @kaidatong1704
    @kaidatong1704 2 дні тому +2

    I think prev 2ish vids were familiar topics, so I just went thru them without paying attention. now it's back to pausing often and trying to stay awake in a different way

    • @kaidatong1704
      @kaidatong1704 2 дні тому

      constantly writing notes to self. 1:54 so "dx" isn't d*x cuz that'd be silly

  • @化學柒頭
    @化學柒頭 2 дні тому +3

    Now prove this for trig functions

    • @diribigal
      @diribigal 14 годин тому

      @@化學柒頭 Just write the trig function as a power series and apply this rule to each term

  • @jiyoukang660
    @jiyoukang660 День тому +1

    This is a great video! I can’t immediately think of where this might be used. Where can it possibly be useful?

  • @Yo-yx8wo
    @Yo-yx8wo 2 дні тому +1

    The most adorable teachers are back with a new class ♥♥♥

  • @diribigal
    @diribigal 23 години тому +1

    English nitpick around 11:36 : "They have both merits and demerits" should be something like "They both have pros and cons." (This position of "both" refers to the two formulas and is more natural.) Unfortunately, the English word "demerit" does not mean the same as Japanese 「デメリット」(and this usage of "merit" is a little unnatural).
    Great video though!

  • @IshtiaqueWalid
    @IshtiaqueWalid День тому +1

    This was fun to watch! 😊 Are there any practical uses of the half derivative? 🤔

  • @NewNecro
    @NewNecro 2 дні тому +3

    LET'S GO √DIFFERENTIATE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

  • @zephthezquirrellord
    @zephthezquirrellord День тому +1

    So, what might the formal definition of a half derivative be? I kinda get the generalization for natural numbers in exponential functions, but what about the half derivative of cos(θ)? And, what are the practical applications of the half derivative (given the derivative is slope and the second is curvature)?

  • @johnchristian5027
    @johnchristian5027 День тому +1

    well now i finally know what the gamma function is XD

  • @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca
    @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca 2 дні тому +1

    Great video once again! This is really easy to pause and keep up with, and the subtitles help a lot.
    If there wasn’t any animegirls I would be very nervous about that gamma function and how it looks when opened.
    I did pause at 9:50 to think how on earth can we simplify fraction that has m terms, but I missed the option of doing something m times. That feels almost like cheating.
    topic request: geometric functions in differentials and integration. Why do they work like that? I never really understood them. To stay true to your format you’d likely have to pick some more complex idea that requires going through the more basic aspects first.

  • @XT449
    @XT449 2 дні тому +1

    amazing video as always

  • @neke1940
    @neke1940 2 дні тому +1

    I loved this video, thanks, very interesting

  • @Cocoscz
    @Cocoscz 19 годин тому +1

    Ok lets be real. How many people are actually watching this because of the math 😂

  • @thezenit228
    @thezenit228 2 дні тому +2

    Half-Deterative? Impressing. Now try Half-Fuction.

  • @nuckyducky
    @nuckyducky День тому +1

    If we can have a half derivative, can we have a negative derivative? Can we have a complex derivative? What's the derivative of the Lambert W function between the values of 1 and e^1/e or between the values of e^-e and 1?

  • @joaovmlsilva3509
    @joaovmlsilva3509 15 годин тому +1

    Thanks mayonese karaage man

  • @Patashu
    @Patashu День тому +1

    ok now half derivative of e^x please

  • @03JJaimes
    @03JJaimes День тому +1

    It's possible talk about the π-th derivative?

  • @Speed001
    @Speed001 День тому +1

    Didn't they already make a video like this

  • @TinyLittleEnormous
    @TinyLittleEnormous 2 дні тому +2

    Does it work in the général case ? For sin, cos, exponential functions ? I guess you could use their taylor expansion. Are there functions you can’t half derivate ?

  • @MsGinko
    @MsGinko День тому +1

    The Gamma Function /-_-/

  • @pizza8725
    @pizza8725 2 дні тому +2

    I rember searching what (2m)!!/(2m-1)!! is equal to and I did got sqrt(pi)*gama(n+1)/gama(n+1/2)

  • @ChaoticNeutral6
    @ChaoticNeutral6 17 годин тому +1

    So the half derivative of sinx would be -sinx and the half derivative of cosx would be -cosx?

  • @01k
    @01k 2 дні тому +2

    Awesome video

  • @nikc101
    @nikc101 День тому +1

    I love this stuff

  • @MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife
    @MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife День тому +2

    i wonder if 1/3 derivatives exist

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 День тому

      Their extension literally works for any "real number"-derivative

  • @yatagarasu9784
    @yatagarasu9784 День тому +1

    WE STAN

  • @vivianriver6450
    @vivianriver6450 День тому +1

    Thinking about the inverse operation, integration, we are left with a "constant of integration", and we have multiple constants of integration for repeated integration, so in fractional calculation, what are the implications for performing a 1/2 integration? What would it mean to have half of a constant of integration?

    • @mussy9387
      @mussy9387 14 годин тому

      Constant of integration exists because when you integrate it is impossible to know how high you should start the function, if that makes sense. There is no exact C value if the integral is indefinite, so therefore it's better to think of C not as an actual number but any number ever. (1/2) * C of a certain C value would still be a C value, so therefore I don't think an answer would have 1/2 * C. Not sure though idk

  • @megamangos7408
    @megamangos7408 12 годин тому +1

    Why not just square it all and get (d/dx) x^2a ?

  • @yawninglion
    @yawninglion День тому +1

    What about minus-derivative? Is it just integration?

  • @enzogamerukbr
    @enzogamerukbr День тому +1

    Day 2 of requesting that Zundamon and Metan kiss

  • @Charky32
    @Charky32 2 дні тому +1

    can you cover prime number theorems?

  • @cdkw2
    @cdkw2 2 дні тому +2

    Saw this in japaneese too!

  • @Vengemann
    @Vengemann 2 дні тому +1

    when they drop the xth derivative with respect to x🗣🗣

  • @emmettdja
    @emmettdja День тому +1

    Now what about irrational derivatives?

  • @Harkmagic
    @Harkmagic День тому +1

    I'm surprised you only did 1/2 derivatives when it isn't much extra effort to generalize fractional derivative. You can even use complex numbers and get the z-th derivation.

  • @IsZomg
    @IsZomg 2 дні тому +5

    Zundamon wants to know exactly where pi came from!

    • @witchhazel415
      @witchhazel415 2 дні тому +5

      Substitute x=1/2 into the integrand, then apply the u=√t (or t=u²) substitution.
      Simplifying the expression transforms it into the Gaussian Integral, which converges to √π.

    • @arthurgames9610
      @arthurgames9610 10 годин тому +1

      ​@@witchhazel415This is the easy part bro. It becomes tricky when it comes actaully calculate the Gaussian Integral.

    • @witchhazel415
      @witchhazel415 4 години тому

      @@arthurgames9610 yeah I know. :p
      You can find plenty of videos explaining how to evaluate the Gaussian Integral, it's too complicated to explain in just a comment.

  • @A_doe_wasting_her_life
    @A_doe_wasting_her_life 2 дні тому +1

    I remenbern I watched this vids in japanese. Familiar with the concept I felt like if I already spoke the language

  • @agent3555
    @agent3555 2 дні тому +1

    ig at 10:12 it shud just be 2, not 2 raised to m in the multiplication

    • @brblowgames9251
      @brblowgames9251 2 дні тому +3

      There are m factors that each need to be multiplied by 2, so the 2 raised to m multiplication is correct.

    • @agent3555
      @agent3555 2 дні тому +1

      @brblowgames9251 oh ok tysm

  • @akaikangaroo
    @akaikangaroo 16 годин тому +1

    Dude... That's what I call an advanced math. And it's pretty depressing to realize that cute anime girls understand it but you don't😦

    • @arthurgames9610
      @arthurgames9610 10 годин тому

      Come on bro, if u really want you can learn anything ;)

  • @vireveoinx
    @vireveoinx 2 дні тому +1

    why did youtube recommend me two anime girls discussing random math problems?

  • @foxquirk
    @foxquirk 2 дні тому +1

    What can half-derivatives be used for?

  • @zawatsky
    @zawatsky 2 дні тому +1

    Похоже, все уже поняли: чтобы стать хорошим агрономом, кулинаром и спортсменом (ну или газовиком, в случае с госпожой Сикокку), нужно хорошо знать математику!☝👀

  • @kodirovsshik
    @kodirovsshik День тому +1

    I like your videos

  • @sillysnowboot
    @sillysnowboot День тому +1

    Im telling you its terance tao. Also whats a derivative anyway i got lost once you started squaring them

  • @delayed_control
    @delayed_control 18 годин тому +1

    Pi jumpscare

  • @helgesupernova788
    @helgesupernova788 2 дні тому +1

    Well that was interesting.

  • @DarknessDr
    @DarknessDr День тому +1

    How nice

  • @ekadria-bo4962
    @ekadria-bo4962 День тому +1

    Well, you confused right?
    In ODE there is (y')^1/2 and y^(0.5)
    You are confusing!
    Many people use d^0.5/d^(0.5)x
    Instead of (d/dx)^0.5 😂

  • @dreznx-lh5zr
    @dreznx-lh5zr 19 годин тому +1

    d/dx f(x) = f'(x)
    √d/dx f(x) = √f'(x)
    🤑🤑🤑

  • @SyamuNekoSan
    @SyamuNekoSan 2 дні тому +1

    Zundamon!!!

  • @agent3555
    @agent3555 2 дні тому +1

    how did we get that expression at 8:31 ua-cam.com/video/SzNO8q0rlPc/v-deo.html please explain

    • @AshifKhan-sn6jx
      @AshifKhan-sn6jx 2 дні тому +1

      They are applying the same "formula" twice on the same expression

    • @agent3555
      @agent3555 2 дні тому +1

      @@AshifKhan-sn6jx oh hm, guess i needa watch the video again