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Why do you first say it is about the "which-way" information beeing somewhere in the universe that let the interference pattern collapse, but later call it observation and "if we watch".
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It's kind of amazing that we're even able to conduct an experiment like this. We're "stuck" inside of a universe governed by these rules. Being able to peer into these rules while also being governed by them is almost like an eye looking at itself without a mirror. It's possible, if not likely, that there could be something even deeper, more "source code-ish", than these wave functions, that we'll never be able to observe. When expressed mathematically, there is very little difference between space and time. Yet to our experiences, they are easily distinguishable. This could be because they actually _are_ very different, or it could be that the universe we see is a limited projection of something deeper that we can only measure through conjecture. A classical analogy might be comparing the scientific discoveries and technological developments of two equally-intelligent beings: one that lives on land, and another that lives underwater. It is quite trivial for the land-dweller to conduct chemical experiments that require water, as well as experiments that must be done in the absence or near absence of water. But the aquatic species has a much greater challenge. Even very simple experiments, like mixing baking soda and vinegar, become much more difficult when you're under water. How do you get these chemicals in isolation in the first place, before mixing them? If a chemical reaction requires a flame, how much work is involved in making that happen in the underwater environment? Further, how much longer would it take the aquatic species to even observe fire in the first place, let along master it? Consider also experiments in electromagnetism. You would have to produce a non-conductive environment before you can even get to work putting conductors in it. In this real-world, classical analogy, there are solutions, because it is possible to leave the water and even bring air into the laboratory. But when it comes to quantum mechanics, our observable universe itself might be the water. Even in a perfect vacuum, even with materials at absolute zero, our experiments might be tainted by the nature of our universe.
It's the same in school. when the teacher isn't looking the student's actions become alle random and unpredictable, but if the teacher decided to look, the student's will be hard at work. ^^
Except when teacher decides to set up a hidden camera and he actually will be able to see all the unrelated actions without them knowing about observance. Quantum world is far more complicated. But have you ever noticed or felt weird sense of being watched by somebody else? In fact this phenomena is also from quantum world and some people even have this 6th sense developed so good so that they can instantly tell that somebody is watching spying on them, and it is quite easy to learn by anyone and experience quantum world in reality.
Arthur Vin soooooooooo true ..... I was a second grade teacher being evaluated on video and a student was dancing behind my back and I never knew until I saw playback video....
We are made up of quantas of unpredictability from quantum world. This gives us 6th sense, and it will always be unpredictable. Act of observation does affect physical measurement. In classical mechanics, observation does not affect to the extent it does in quantum world because quantum world is so tiny.
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Huge fan of your videos Eugene. I have shown them to my professor and he was impressed, particularly with the ones pertaining to the visualization of mathematics. The work you do truly impacts my life and I am very grateful. Never stop spreading knowledge, it makes the world a better place.
Eugene Khutoryansky This answered a longstanding question that I've had. I always wondered if the shear act of measuring was collapsing the wave-function. This proves that it is NOT the measurement itself, but merely the fact that we KNOW information - which leads us all down the path of madness ;-) QM is truly absurd.
Eugene Khutoryansky Brilliant! Brilliant! Brilliant! Bravo! I loved it, this answered some questions raised from previous video on QM as well as tons and tons of other material I watched over the years on the subject. And raised a lot others.
This is hands down one of the most amazing pieces of information available on the Internet. What is nearly an incomprehensible topic explained so clearly that boggles the mind with its ramifications. You take your time with us so each sentence is really digested by the viewer. Great work Eugene
@@EugeneKhutoryansky The way you construct the ideas when you explain the notions tells about the way you structure them for yourself and this is something to thank for as well.
Except it's incorrect... Retrocausality is not possible we've known that for a while so not really amazing, there's plenty of crazy theories. Time doesn't even exist it's just something that exists in our minds, a tool we created to keep track of things, just like political laws don't really exist, I hope we can move forward beyond Einstein and his spacetime it's time to grow up already and quit playing around and solve the cosmology crisis and quit eating time with "beautiful" theories like string
Maybe you should train the cat to respond to which detector the particle went thru. Then if the experiment only responds to a human measurement, the cat could have the real answer to the question posed by this video. Would the results then change if the cat could signal the information to a human? Someone else probably thought of this before.
Well then, that would mean that the interference pattern would remain in place according to quantum theory. We had a cat like that once. It was also declawed on the front. Poor kitty!
Of all videos in the Internet, this video gives the best explanation of the DCQE experiment. Most accurate, as well as comprehensible. Not easy to explain something complex in a field that one has been working on for perhaps decades, to layperson. Incredible.
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That was a very creepy cat, but this is probably the most well-made video I have ever seen. It made an extremely difficult and non-intuitive topic relatively easy to follow and understand. Great job and I hope to see more like this!
Not really. Nothing about this intuitive especially with the strange cat animation acting as though the mere act of looking at a detector changea reality
Eugene, congratulations for your fabulous videos! The way you present quantum phenomena is unique. I can understand the great effort required to do so. Especially I want to congratulate you for that: You enter into the essence of the concept - the nature - of observation, something many others avoid thoroughly.
This is a very interesting "reverse" variation of the Yoon-Ho Kim, Rong Yu, Sergei P. Kulik, and Yanhua Shih Delayed "Choice" Quantum Eraser. In the above video, the entangled pairs are created within the crystal photon detector. What is even more interesting, is that the experiment has both particle and wave behavior occurring simultaneously, and which state it is that you wish to view is determined by which "emitted photon" detector it is that you wish to monitor.
Even if I never fully understand this experiment, I will continue to watch it for the cat. You know that it's not real and that it is just an assembly pixels, yet you still acknowledge it as a cat, wanting to see something less eerily false because your mind has convinced you that it is supposed to be something which it is not. A curious thing. 😵
FocusReborn So you won't remember most of the important points? What you should do is watch the video first and understand it, and THEN take a bong rip. Once your high, let your imagination wander.
@14:30 This is called a Von Neumann Chain. The detectors do not collapse the superposition, but becomes entangled with it, also becoming a superposition, so the whole system will share a common wavefunction until an observation is made. For example: What would happen if we conducted the Schrodinger's Cat experiment inside another bigger box containing both the box with the cat, the scientist and another mechanism to kill the scientist (this is our eraser... haha) if the cat is found dead? The scientist's state would be entangled to the state of the cat, which would be entangled to the state of the radioactive particle, so the whole system would share a common wavefunction which would not collapse until someone from outside the system observe it. Now to blow our minds: What if we conducted this experiment with everyone in the world? Billions of boxes, one inside another, containing a person and a mechanism to kill that person if the previous was found dead? The system's wavefunction would only collapse if it is observed by outside the system. This has two solutions: or the system is never collapsed, what would mean that no one would actually be dead, but both dead and alive, even if the cat was found dead by the first scientist (a sort of solipsism, where the state of the "whole world" depends on you), or there is some sort of "omnipresent cosmic observer" which looks down at us to say we are alive or dead (a sort of theism). This is the Wigner's Friend Paradox.
+Matheus Adorni Dardenne The problem is that we can observe the cloth pattern BEFORE we decide whether to quantum erase or not (i.e., say the photons must travel an hour before they hit the beam splitters that erase the path information). In this case, since we have already observed the cloth, we know whether or not the wave function collapsed and can use the information to choose to erase or not erase, breaking down this whole system, it seems.
SteelBlueVision The crazyness of it is that whatever answer we observe on the cloth always correlates with our decision to erase the data or not. This is why some (like Wheeler) argue this experiment implies in retrocausation.
+Matheus Adorni Dardenne But, our decision to erase the data or not comes much later in time than our perception of the cloth. This creates a paradox, because our decision can intentionally be the opposite to what we see on the cloth.
+SteelBlueVision it can't, what we decide in the future will correlate with what the cloth shows. How can I put it; the pattern in the cloth is always incomplete until the other photon hits the detector, when it does, the sum of both patterns becomes the final result... we cannot see on the cloth what the decision will be on the future, it seems "ambiguous" until then, and corresponds both with the predictions of wave-like and particle-like behavior.
+Matheus Adorni Dardenne Sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me. What it sounds like you are saying is that the pattern on the cloth does not form until the photon's information is either revealed or erased. But there are four particles at play here, the photons which head off in their own direction and their corresponding larger particles which head for and are detected on the curtain. However, in my thought experiment, the larger particles hit the curtain first (in time), thus forming an interference pattern (or not) on the curtain. This happens > before already formed long ago < on the curtain 2) The curtain pattern changes > retroactively < based on what we decide to do with the photons (also a paradox of sorts?) It then appears to us that even though we had the intention to do the opposite, for some unexplainable reason we chose to act with the photons in a way that corresponds with what appeared on the curtain. We try again, and again, inexplicably, we decide to act with the photons in a way that corresponds with the curtain pattern instead of in contradiction to it. 3) The pattern on the curtain reflect what we will do in the future with the photons and once we see it, try as we might, we will only deal with the photons in a way that is compatible with the curtain pattern.
Please someone explain to me how this isn't true: Say you have your double slit in your laboratory on Earth. Each gate has a photon-emitting crystal detector as shown in this video. The photons from the detectors are amplified and then beamed into space directly toward a Mars laboratory. Say Mars is 10 light minutes away. You activate your double slit at precisely 3:00:00. You have a prior arrangement with the astronaut in the Martian laboratory that he will choose to either insert the mirrors and erase the data (stripe pattern) or omit the mirrors and collect the data (collapse the wave function) at, say, precisely 3:09:59, one second before the light from your experiment reaches him from Earth. Wouldn't you already know at 3:00:01 which action he is going to take judging by which pattern appears on the wall behind your double slit on Earth? Couldn't you use this to communicate with him faster than light? What if he also had a double slit and you also had an eraser/detector setup, couldn't you then communicate across infinite distances instantaneously?
Nice thought! I may have an idea why this isn't true, but do note I'm new to this subject. I'm thinking if the Martian 'chooses' whether to insert or omit mirrors, the wave function collapses. It's no longer probability. If instead of choosing it was a probability, then it can't be used for communication. Right?
without the information from the detector, you won't be able to tell the difference between patterns. The blue and purple pattern you see is only formed by matching the data from the beam splitter with the wall.
You say you would already know which action he is going to take at 3:00:01, but that's not true. You already know it before that because of the prior arrangement. If you didn't make an arrangement, he would have to send his data back to earth, otherwise you wouldn't be able to recover any pattern... I think.
You can't erase the information after the particles hit the cloth, therefore, you'll never observe a stripped pattern.
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This channel is simply the best for me. A lot of channels illustrate complex concepts like this one, with fancier animations but for inexplicable reasons, this makes actual intellectual undestanding simpler for me. Thanks for the good work!
I'm so glad this video talks about the very fundamental concepts and I think this is the only one I've seen so far which has explained "What erasing of information means", I've been quite confused about it in the other videos which just seem to mention it without really explaining clearly. Thank you!
This is an excellent video. Part of an excellent series. Some of the videos in the series have explained things I've been trying to understand for a long time.
You don't have to observe the results. Plus, observe is the wrong word. Measure is a better word. Interaction is required to measure. Looking away doesnt create an eraser effect, meaning that observation is irrelevant. It's the possibility of measuring which-way, is what changes the result. If you set up this experiment with a timer, and then kill all living beings in the universe before the timer commences the experiment, the result would be still be as predicted. Even without a living being observing the result.
Pseudo That is a matter of considerable debate, and no one knows for sure. Any detector consists of particles which are also described by wave-functions, which don't seem to collapse until they are "observed."
Eugene Khutoryansky Isn't it more about our knowledge of the system rather than observation? As I understand it scientists use some kind of measuring device to measure which slit the particle goes through. So if you don't put a measuring device in front of the slits you'll get an interference pattern, but if you do put a measuring device in front of the slits to measure which slit it goes through you get that clump pattern instead. So, what would happen if you just placed your own two eyes in front of the slits instead of the measuring device? Wouldn't that be an observation too? But then again, your eyes wouldn't be able to see which slit the particle goes through since it's so tiny for us to see, so my prediction would be that if we placed our eyes in front of the slits instead of the measuring device we would get the interference pattern since our eyes can't really see which slit it goes through, hence why I think it's more about knowledge of the system rather than observation. So just by looking at the slits with your own eyes without any detectors/measuring device would NOT qualify as an observation. Am I correct or what, Eugene? What I'm trying to say is that the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Experiment shows that it isn't the detectors themselves which cause the wave function to collapse but rather that an observation of a conscious being that does it. So if you know which path the particles took which means you know which slit it went through the wave function collapses e.g. you get a clump pattern. But if you don't know which slit the particles went through you get the interference pattern. But what if a cat were to look at the data instead of a human? I've made the assumption that it's the knowledge of the system which causes the wave function to collapse. (You know which slit the particle went through, therefore the wave function collapses.) But since I would call a cat a concious being, what would happen if a cat were observing the data from the detector instead of a human? I would assume the cat doesn't know anything about the experiment, what it is, what it's all about, which slit the particle went through even if it looked at the data etc. So since the cat doesn't have the knowledge of which slit the particle went through, but is at the same time a conscious being, what would the cat see? Would the cat read something different out of the detector than we would do? Would the cat only see the interference pattern/read it out from the detector since it doesn't have the knowledge of which slit the particle goes through?
+Eugene Khutoryansky The problem is that the decision to "erase" can be made years after the particles have landed on that cloth. That is, whether or not beam splitters are employed can be really really delayed into those futures, so those photons travel for a very long time before the information contained within them is erased. In this case, what is the pattern on the cloth? Since it is formed before the choice of whether beam splitters will be employed to perform quantum erasure.
+mEPknuser "I've made the assumption that it's the knowledge of the system which causes the wave function to collapse. (You know which slit the particle went through, therefore the wave function collapses.)" Yes, you are correct. Its the case. Think about entanglement. If the other particle is to the opposite side of the universe, if you measure the one that is here, you automatically know the status, the reality of the other. Because the two particles, are one system, they are under the same wavefunction.
+Eugene Khutoryansky I have two questions about this video that seem most appropriate to ask in this reply thread. 1. If I understand correctly, a "Quantum Eraser" is essentially an array of reflecting mirrors placed in front of the two detectors/holes to allow for the possibility of the photon passing through either. It would seem then that for this to work, it must be functioning at the time of the experiment itself. How would one "activate" such a device after the fact when the photon/wave has already completed its journey past the point of the detector and through the two holes (or to phrase it perhaps more accurately, "done whatever it has done")? 2. I would also very much like to know what qualifies as an observation. If I understand the information you have presented correctly, it seems as if objects do NOT qualify, but living, thinking observers DO? Or am I misunderstanding? Would a computer recording the event count as an observer if the data on its drive was erased before anyone had the opportunity to look at it? I love your videos, and I thank you very much for making them! These are very difficult concepts to grasp for the uninitiated (people like me).
14:32 So this means that there is a difference between a conscious observer like us and and an unconscious observer like the detector? That question is on my mind for quite some time now, does the universe differentiate between consciousness and "non-consciousness" ? Wouldn't that mean that without consciousness there cannot be a definite reality? Hmmm this was probably asked by so many people, what do you think of this? edit: okay i just finished the video, should have waited to ask that question since it is mentioned at the end :D hopefully you will adress this kind of stuff in the future videos
niv skillsurf Whether or not consciousness makes a difference is a matter of debate. There are a number of different philosophical interpretations of Quantum Mechanics. One of them states that a wave-function collapses when it is observed by a conscious observer. The other interpretations have a different explanation. And yes, as you said, I plan to eventually make a video that addresses the different philosophical interpretations.
There is no reason to assume Consciousness has anything to do with it when you entanglement I don't think. You could just say we only see the wave function we entangle with
niv Gnasherus The detectors aren't doing reading. The detectors have to be read by a recording device. Once that happens, the quantum wave collapses. In the real Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser experiment photons are hitting the screen or the detectors at a rate too fast for humans to decide whether or not to read a detector. Fast processors are implementing software to record no not record through which slit the entangled photon and it's entangled partner that hit the screen earlier in time. We can only play back the recording and match entangled particles. From the recording, we see that when it is known through which slit a photon passes, the photon hitting the screen acts like a particle. From the recording, we see that when it is not known through which slit a photon passes, the photon hitting the screen acts like a wave. There is no human consciousness involved. Quantum entanglement appears to break distance and convey information faster than the speed of light, instantaneously. Quantum entanglement appears to break time and convey information backward in time. Three years after this video,I have seen no papers that can satisfactorily tidy up this mess. A decision in the present causes an outcome in the past. 😖😖😖😖😖
@@khaledyasser8293 We do have a reason to assume consciousness is at play because the primary variable in this experiment is knowledge of how its set up.
Also, reading comments below - I realize most of them have nothing to do with the topic. It appears as though everyone wants to be a comedian. Hopefully, that doesn't discourage Eugene from making more videos.
Because from photon reference frame without rest-mass, there is no causality and all events happen simultaneously from the photon pov. Light speed is causality speed so as instantaneous as you can get. Not from outside inertial frame however (they appear to move lightspeed). Move interactions are physical interactions with another inertial frame so appear to obey causality. This experiment is NOT it is the photon's information being changed, its knowledge and not a material process. It must some how know its own wave function, or pilot wave as an informational omniscient thing...
This is well done, especially explaining how no information is transmitted faster than c. However, I had to wait for the description of the test configuration near the end to see the context. Without the context it is nearly impossible to connect the first half to physical reality. Please and thank you, Next time start with the context and then explain the results. Thumbs up for the best explanation on the internet.
Question: Hypothetically, if a person observed the detection of a particle and they were the only person to do so. They died, and the quantum eraser was activated to remove all other evidence of the detection would it return to a striped pattern or would the detection remain intact?
No, even if you died, the evidence of what you observed would still be in the molecules of your diseased brain. If you were cremated, then the evidence would be in the ashes.
Thanks, Eugene, another fabulous video--and I'll be re-watching this one more than a few times. Some videos on physics feature narrators who talk really fast--possibly to sufficiently engage attention. I love it that your narrator talks at a normal pace with lots of pauses and sometimes repetitions to allow me to absorb the ideas. Your music and animations do the engaging. And, of course, the animations often help with visualizing. This is a brilliant and unique approach. I wish other video makers understood this.
+Alexandra Hopkins, thanks for the compliment. I am glad that you like the video, and the pace of the narrations. And thanks for the compliments on the animations.
+Alexandra Hopkins -- the fast ones that I despise, are the ones where they finish the video and then edit out the small pauses between sentences/paragraphs. Thus it becomes just one endless no pause nightmare.
Fascinating! As someone who never had any more schooling and basic math and science, I've been fascinated at learning these things now when I'm 55! So please don't laugh at me, but, what if these experiments were performed in many different places at the same time and all the documented info was recorded together at the same time to see if these particles somehow communicate with each other elsewhere in place/space and time? I don't even know if that makes sense but if the process of just looking changes things? Wow, what a mind blowing experiment that might be!
is that the quantum eraser send information back in time or is it that the particle is deciding after passing through the quantum eraser ? It seems to me it about the timing of the choice being made, not that the "eraser" is doing anything at all...
The Bigger question Ed is does that tree even exist whilst no one is there to observe it and are you just data in my universe till the day I observe you and materialize you into form...you exist in yours whilst you observe yourself, but how about your face and back side ? your not observing those right now ... :p *as Ed reaches round to grab his butt and check if he is real* :p
Thanks for the new video Eugene, ever since I heard about physicists at ANU doing this experiment I have wanted you to make a video on it to allow me to understand it better. Great job, love all your other videos too!
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I really enjoy your videos. I would like to just make a comment about the music selection though. I think it would be VERY impactful if you choose darker music. Much of the "happy" major songs seem to take away from the awe-inspiring effect your videos generally leave upon a person. I see you use music form the Audio Library of UA-cam. If you choose more music from the Dark category (Classical and Ambient are usually the best of the dark genre), music more abstract and maybe even a little disturbing, I think you could greatly enhance the quality of your videos and add a uniqueness factor to your videos (All of the commercial industry already uses happy ukulele songs, you should avoid doing that). If you add this dimension to your videos (haunting music with awe-inspiring physics revelations), I believe you could gain a cult following. I with you the best with your channel and I hope you consider my suggestion.
The pause between important information, as well as the 3D cat, helped more to understand this very difficult topic. Big thanks to the animator for making things basic!
Here is the problem. To be an observer one must be conscious. But, we don't know what consciousness is so we don't know what an observer is either. Since we don't know what consciousness is we can't say for certain that that the particles themselves are not conscious. If the particles are conscious, they may change the way the mind perceives the patterns they make.
Steve Bergman How so? It seems to me one of two possible things happen in this scenario 1 - Consciousness - meaning the awareness that some event has taken place - causes the "rest" of the event to also materialize, in the sense that if a particle is measured at a given point, it must have traversed through a certain path to get there, or 2 - All the events have been laid out in advance as an infinite set of possibilities, and when observation - or just the mere fact that an event has taken place - "forces" the event into existence in its entirety. That, however, would imply that time is only a dimension we travel through, and everything that ever was or will be was "created" instantaneously before even the first ever event to take place in our universe. Seems to me like both scenarios imply the existence of consciousness, either within or outside the system. In the first scenario, the universe would be the consciousness I'm referring to. In the second scenario, an outside consciousness would have "created" the entire set of possibilities and then set it in motion. What am I missing?
First of all I would like to say that I think your videos are absolutely fantastic. Except the two about quantum mechanics. You really make it seem like consiousness has some important role in the double slit experiment, which is definitely not the consensus by physicists. Im not sure if you really believe that or if it is a mistake by my part from interpreting the video, but you unfortunately make it look like it (a lot of youtube videos do) for example when the cat is closing its eyes and the results change. "Observing" in quantum mechanics does not mean "consious beeing observing". I believe interfere or disturb is a better word to avoid confusion.
Andreas Henriksson I also thought that consiousness had nothing to do with it, but how can it then be that the wave function does not collapse by measuring, but only by the information that the measurement produces? (As shown by the use of a quantum eraser) Khutoryanski already promised a video about the phylosophical concequences of this.
Andreas Henriksson There are a number of different philosophical interpretations of Quantum Mechanics. One of them is, in fact, the idea that the wave function collapses only when a conscious observer observes it. There are also many other interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, where consciousness does not play a role. However, all these other interpretations have to explain why the data makes it seem as if consciousness is involved. In my videos on Quantum Mechanics, I leave this as an open question, and I only state that it "seems" as if consciousness plays a role. I never explicitly state whether it does or doesn't, as this is a matter of debate, and no on really knows for sure when or how the wave-function collapses.
Eugene Khutoryansky Yes, there is a number of different philosophical interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, and one of the more unpopular (by physicist) and silly ideas is the idea that consciousness plays a role - an idea often used by new-age people and such who misuse Quantum mechanics to fit their own view. What counts as consciousness? can a toddler collapse the wave function, a chimpanzee? dog? insects? This obviously creates some ridiculous problems (and its actually quite arrogant to believe that we humans possess a special ability to collapse the wavefunction..) And I do not agree that the data seems as consciousness has something to do with it, just that your explanation of the problem make it look that way ;) As a matter of fact I have never heard of any physicists that believe in this interpretation (Im a physics student, and have asked my professors about this) I know you never explicitly stated anything, but you sure emphasized this very disfavored interpretation.
Andreas Henriksson All I am doing is leaving open the possibility that consciousness plays a role, without stating whether it does or doesn't, as there is presently no way to prove this one way or the other. Also, I think that the percentage of physicists who think that consciousness plays a role might actually be higher than you think, though they would disagree with each other over what counts as consciousness. In any case, the biggest issue I see for the view that consciousness plays a role is the question of what the Universe was doing before there were conscious observers in it, such as before any planets had yet formed in the Universe to support life.
Andreas Henriksson You are not considering that, maybe, consciousness has something to do. I am not by far instructed at quantum mechanics but using the logic that my knowledge in programming has granted me I can take a shot at it. This is that maybe our "consciousness" is like a system that kind of constructs a solid experience through the possible quantum outcomes so we can actually be self aware of our existence. I mean if you try really hard to think what consciousness is you will realize that it is way beyond understanding; it is like trying to see the back of your head in a place with no reflective surfaces. So what I'm trying to say is that maybe the Universe, time, space, and all energy and particles make no sense and are not correlated at all but our consciousness (which I think might be created by the way the particles in our brains are set up) is so complex that can make everything make sense among the quantum chaos and make us feel, well, conscious.
So does this mean that if we go for example a lightyear away from the actual holes and the pattern and put our quantum eraser there we can actually change something that happened a lightyear away, thus altering a thing that happened a year ago. For example, the observer is a lightyear away and decides to look at the results and boom it changes the pattern that was formed a lightyear away from him which means that he transferred information faster than light?
Any talk of the content of human consciousness being the deciding factor of whether or not "reality" is real is obvious nonsense! There is something fundamental that we have not understood
Here is my opinion. I don't think human consciousness is the deciding factor, but the fact that the information of the experiment exists somewhere in the universe. It can be registered on a sheet of paper, a hard drive or a brain. It looks like we are also entangled with the whole experiment.
I agree. It's very suspicious that this experiment is so accepted among prominent thinkers. The blind jump from physics to philosophy is obscene. Physics has something to gain as does philosophy. Very politicized.
This is very interesting! It seems to me it must be consciousness that does the observing, but others say this quantum erasure proves that consciousness isn't involved. Colour me confused. How on earth do they reach that conclusion?
I'm not against the consciousness thing; however, what we get from this is that it's about Information, not consciousness. Which is still weird; non materialism oriented, and annoys some people so much that they would rather say something Time Travelled than admit the nonmaterialistic outcome of the experiment. Personally, I think consciousness is embedded in the fabric of the cosmos, and is connected to some of this. Peace
At 22:50, there are 2 cases out of 4 where we can tell form which hole particle passes. Here also we get interference pattern(as per video). what will happen if we go on increasing this possibility.like ,8 out of 10 ....or 98 out of 100 cases we know (which mean almost all the time we know).will there be interference pattern ? or it will be dark two strips with light interference ?
Hi Eugene. To me this awfully stinks of Superdeterminism proposed by Bell himself. Could you perhaps do a video that looks at this phenomena from that lens?
Does the two slit experiment need to be done in a vacuum in case the air in the room interacts with the particle therefor theoretically you could figure out which slit the particle went through? Or on a different scale, don't particles cause gravity so theoretically you can measure the particles gravitational wave effects somehow and determine which slit it went through? In that case you wouldn't really be affecting or touching the particle as it flies through the slit? I'm trying to think of a way you might theoretically detect something without actually disturbing it.
Eugene Khutoryansky Your scientific channel is my favorite, while i like math as a way of communicating these things, and the first time i truly was fascinated by phisics is the time i first examined a few formulas for the theory of relativity. But that requires an understanding of math that ordinary people just dont have, and also a will of wanting to translate math, which also not much people have. You, though...you show a different method of making others understand, and since i dont have as much understanding of math as id like to have right now, i, too hear a lot of fascinating things for you. Thank you, and Im glad you keep making videos (until you started making those short videos i always worried you stopped making them). Though if you are interested enough to doubt the stuff mentioned in your videos, one still needs math. ;P Also it may be just a personal preference (so please take no offense, i realize other people might like different stuff), but I like your vids about modern physics much more, than your videos about stuff i learnt and understood in high school (stuff about electricity, excluding the one about transistors) or very basic math like dividing with fractions, trigonometrics, and even calculus (i hoped you would include calculus in your future videos as proving or showing other stuff). I'm looking forward to your videos about string theory, and even the theory of everything (which is im aware not yet exists, still an interesting topic). Also about the four (which is now 3 if im correctly informed) basic forces. But whatever you make, you have my support! You are awesome. :)
gbBakuryu Thanks for that great compliment, and I am glad to hear that my channel is your favorite. I believe it is important to be able to describe the phenomena without mathematics both for the benefit of the people who don't have a strong background in mathematics, and also for the benefit of those that do. Often, many physics students end up being very good at solving the equations, while still not having much of an understanding of what it is that the equations are actually representing. This is one of the reasons why I believe that having these visualization is important. Also, I believe that this is important to do for modern physics as well as for classical physics and mathematics, as there are many people who don't have a good understanding of classical physics or mathematics, or are now in the process of learning it for the very first time. Thanks again for the compliment, and lots more videos are on their way.
Here's an experiment I'd like to see. A macro double slit with tennis balls and a screen where the tennis balls hit after being launched randomly in the general direction toward the 2 slits. Completely enclose the system so no one can ever see or determine which slit the tennis balls go through. It may sound stupid but it's been bugging me.
@22:30 let's just have this set up as seen on screen and have a switch to slide the two outer mirrors. When the mirrors are out eraser is on. When mirrors are in eraser is off. Now let's have this setup arranged such that photons take several minuites to reach the outer mirrors from the detection crystals. Now send one photon into the double slit and observe the back screen. Will there be interference or not. After seeing the patern on the screen then operate the switch so as to contradict what you saw on the screen. That is...if you see interference on the screen immediately put the eraser in off position so that we can get the path information. What result would we get.
Yes... And not that I'm against observer or consciousness related discussions; but what we can say from this is that it's about whether the information is available, not to an observer, but just in general. So yes, it Cannot be the Interaction with device; that is correct.
Theenerd ジェームズ Thanks again for the compliment. I am glad that you love my explanations, and that they are helpful. And yes, lots more videos are on their way.
Was false knowledge ever tested to have any effect? What I mean is: say an observer is purposefully lead to believe in the presence of an active quantum eraser (which there isn't) and measuring devices, and the observer believes that the striped pattern should occur. Given that the observer would be unable to know the path of the particles (due to the belief that its impossible to know), will they produce the striped pattern? Or does the act of the observer giving or receiving correct information from others who are aware of the quantum eraser count as observation? Perhaps there is a difference in whether or not relates to knowledge in the future, even if the information is exchanged days or weeks later. I know this is kind of arbitrary, but it's out of curiosity.
+Gijs Schenk Well, one would think that mere observation wouldn't affect experiments, either. It was detailed here that by removing the certainly of the path of the particles from the observer, the wave pattern was recovered. I was inquiring more about whether it was the knowledge itself or the possibility of knowledge that was the factor. I was equating false knowledge with no knowledge, rather than defining "false knowledge" as some kind of actual knowledge.
I think the solution is "simple". If everything and everyone is a part of the All, then it is impossible to hide your own intention, as everything past,present and feuture is alredy known. So the electrons, that are themselves a part of the All, will always be influenced by the intention of the observer, be it past,present or future. And even if the observer was not conscious of his intention! Even if he did not have any intention at all! It is sufficient the fact that, if he would have had to decide, he would have chosen to observe the electrons as particles, to make that "possible-but not formulated-intention" a reality
you forgot about the planck-quantized time-matter ozillation which causes a refraction of a hidden variable subset of the near impossible black vapor horizon in a dark energy flare context.
@@HoD999x WRONG !!!!! YOUR ASSUMING THE PARTICLE IS INTERFERING THE WAVE AT THE TIME IT PASSES THROUGH THE SLIT !!!! IF YOU KILL THIS ASSUMPTION THEN ALL IS GOOD !
The rythm is the right one for me, because you need to think a little further on your own in between each sentence. Repetition is useful too. I am getting it little by little. I think the little thing missing to complete the understanding is at the end to say why this cannot be used for communication backward in time. for example using morse code based on the 2 states : activation and beactivation of the quantum eraser.
+Eugene Khutoryansky Eugene, in this video I have some objections about the presentation of information erasure process. Specifically, at 16:45 showing the beam splitter, you let it be understood that the photon will follow either one way or the other in each case. In quantum reality this is not right. Photon - if the path is not distinguishable (known) - will follow both paths by beamsplitter. Will pass through AND will be reflected, simultaneously. Later (17:52) when placing special crystals to the position of the detectors near the slits, you mention that the particle will pass through one of them emitting a photon. I think this is not true. The particle will pass through potentially both crystals and the emitted photon will be obtained (as probability wave) from both sources (crystals). At 19:54 you're showing the photon to travel from the crystals to the detectors with specific route at a time, that I also think is not right. Photon (or its wavefunction) will come from left and from right. It will be reflected from the left mirror and from the right mirror, and will be reach the beamsplitter from the two paths. It will be pass through the beamsplitter both ways simultaneously, interfering with itself. Of course only one detector will eventually measure a single photon, but until that time the path will not be unique, distinct. At 22:30 and onwards things get complicated but extremely interesting.
Any entanglement demonstration involving a choice illustrates that the subjective experience of scientist A making a choice, only he knows, violates locality as observed by scientist B, and so the subjective experience of scientist A does not occur in a finite box. Therefore, the human mind cannot be said to be inside a finite box such as the brain, the brain and body, or the body and the local environment regardless of how entanglement works.
At 5:31 the commentary says that the eraser is activated and yields the "first" type of measurement; then at 5:50 the commentary says that the eraser is activated and yields the "second" type of measurement. However, I'm completely confused here: just what is the "first" type of measurement, and what is the "second" type of measurement? I guess it might have something to do with the blue and purple "lights" on the eraser, but these are completely unexplained by the commentary. The eraser is presented with a description of its main function (removing data from the detectors), but zero indication in the commentary that it's also taking a measurement of some sort. So what is it measuring?
it's creepy how much like a video game this makes real life sound; things the user doesn't observe are not rendered, just abstracted to save processor resources
Think of a room like one big wave pattern. If we are in the room to observe what is happening, then we are included in the the wave pattern. If you think of the wave pattern as a math equation, adding something to the room adds another variable to the equation, which may or may not change the outcome of the equation.
I did execute this experiment in a lab as a physics student, with many photons at the same time but I still don't actually understand it properly, hopefully this video will help a bit.
How to send/receive information faster than light!: A familiar double slit experiment setup, with a few automated computer bits attached will act as the receiver. A quantum eraser will be manipulated to act as a transmitter. Emit photons through the crystal/slit arrangement, *one by one* but at a rapid frequency towards a screen. A computerized system would need to record where on the screen the photons hit and which crystal emitted a photon. The detector crystal results can be transmitted using plain radio to the quantum eraser device. Detector data only needs to reach the eraser *eventually* and not instantly since the particles are entangled, so technically the information already arrived by the time you made the observation. Photon emission at the double slits will need to be done continuously in order to receive and interpret a message. The receiver computer system will look at the pattern of photons being created in the current time frame to determine if the photon path information is being erased or not. This is your "bit" of data. When someone wants to send you an email from Saturn or whatever, they will need a quantum eraser thing hooked up to their own computer. To send a message their computer just needs to turn the eraser on and off like morse code (simple binary or on-off-keying would be more realistic) according to whatever protocol is used. Universally synchronized clocks will keep the transmitter and receiver in sync so that the system can error correct its self without the need for constant "handshaking" between bits of information.
Thank you for the incredible video! I have a question (I didn't find the answer in comments below): Does the probability of a particle passing through the beam splitter have to be exactly 1/2? If yes, how can we ensure that the probability of passing through is exactly the same as the probability of reflection? If no, couldn't we statistically estimate original information if the beam splitter is extremely biased?
from my layman's understanding of this phenomenon, i think there are probably only 2 possibilities. 1) the "many worlds" theory or 2) there are additional unknown/undetected dimensions, perhaps in which time is a vector, capable of changing direction. of course i can't exactly back these up with the math, but who knows?
5:41 Surely the obvious next step is to test this hypothesis by them observing which hole the particle went through and see if the stripey pattern is gone!
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Why do you first say it is about the "which-way" information beeing somewhere in the universe that let the interference pattern collapse, but later call it observation and "if we watch".
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Terima kasih.
I like the fact that you pose for 5 seconds between the sentences. It gives me time to think about what you just said. Keep up the good work.
Thanks.
Actually that is the only thing I don't like about this channel.
There is a pause button in UA-cam.
It is more convenient to use it compared to skipping it and missing some portions
@@the_sophile there is playback speed button in youtube, which allows you to change the running speed of a video
True, I love that!
It's too slow for the average person, I'd say. Certainly not done to lengthen the video, I'm sure
It's kind of amazing that we're even able to conduct an experiment like this. We're "stuck" inside of a universe governed by these rules. Being able to peer into these rules while also being governed by them is almost like an eye looking at itself without a mirror.
It's possible, if not likely, that there could be something even deeper, more "source code-ish", than these wave functions, that we'll never be able to observe. When expressed mathematically, there is very little difference between space and time. Yet to our experiences, they are easily distinguishable. This could be because they actually _are_ very different, or it could be that the universe we see is a limited projection of something deeper that we can only measure through conjecture. A classical analogy might be comparing the scientific discoveries and technological developments of two equally-intelligent beings: one that lives on land, and another that lives underwater.
It is quite trivial for the land-dweller to conduct chemical experiments that require water, as well as experiments that must be done in the absence or near absence of water. But the aquatic species has a much greater challenge. Even very simple experiments, like mixing baking soda and vinegar, become much more difficult when you're under water. How do you get these chemicals in isolation in the first place, before mixing them? If a chemical reaction requires a flame, how much work is involved in making that happen in the underwater environment? Further, how much longer would it take the aquatic species to even observe fire in the first place, let along master it? Consider also experiments in electromagnetism. You would have to produce a non-conductive environment before you can even get to work putting conductors in it.
In this real-world, classical analogy, there are solutions, because it is possible to leave the water and even bring air into the laboratory. But when it comes to quantum mechanics, our observable universe itself might be the water. Even in a perfect vacuum, even with materials at absolute zero, our experiments might be tainted by the nature of our universe.
(Kind) Wisdom very intelligent prose (prose is a talented writing) wisely stated
It's the same in school. when the teacher isn't looking the student's actions become alle random and unpredictable, but if the teacher decided to look, the student's will be hard at work. ^^
Except when teacher decides to set up a hidden camera and he actually will be able to see all the unrelated actions without them knowing about observance. Quantum world is far more complicated. But have you ever noticed or felt weird sense of being watched by somebody else? In fact this phenomena is also from quantum world and some people even have this 6th sense developed so good so that they can instantly tell that somebody is watching spying on them, and it is quite easy to learn by anyone and experience quantum world in reality.
Yeah that being watched feeling phenomenon would be quite cool if it wasn't faulty.
Made my day, after 2years
Arthur Vin soooooooooo true ..... I was a second grade teacher being evaluated on video and a student was dancing behind my back and I never knew until I saw playback video....
We are made up of quantas of unpredictability from quantum world. This gives us 6th sense, and it will always be unpredictable. Act of observation does affect physical measurement. In classical mechanics, observation does not affect to the extent it does in quantum world because quantum world is so tiny.
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Huge fan of your videos Eugene. I have shown them to my professor and he was impressed, particularly with the ones pertaining to the visualization of mathematics. The work you do truly impacts my life and I am very grateful. Never stop spreading knowledge, it makes the world a better place.
Logan Retamoza Eugene has a very special way of explaining things. Even this video is mind-blowing.
Eugene Khutoryansky This answered a longstanding question that I've had. I always wondered if the shear act of measuring was collapsing the wave-function. This proves that it is NOT the measurement itself, but merely the fact that we KNOW information - which leads us all down the path of madness ;-) QM is truly absurd.
Eugene Khutoryansky Brilliant! Brilliant! Brilliant! Bravo! I loved it, this answered some questions raised from previous video on QM as well as tons and tons of other material I watched over the years on the subject.
And raised a lot others.
By using the beam splitters we erase information from which detector we want it to detect the photon.
This is hands down one of the most amazing pieces of information available on the Internet. What is nearly an incomprehensible topic explained so clearly that boggles the mind with its ramifications. You take your time with us so each sentence is really digested by the viewer. Great work Eugene
Thanks for the compliments.
@@EugeneKhutoryansky The way you construct the ideas when you explain the notions tells about the way you structure them for yourself and this is something to thank for as well.
Except it's incorrect... Retrocausality is not possible we've known that for a while so not really amazing, there's plenty of crazy theories. Time doesn't even exist it's just something that exists in our minds, a tool we created to keep track of things, just like political laws don't really exist, I hope we can move forward beyond Einstein and his spacetime it's time to grow up already and quit playing around and solve the cosmology crisis and quit eating time with "beautiful" theories like string
Shrodinger's cat looks happy that she's not the object of this experiment.
+Austin Geary she also *is* the object of this experiiments.
Maybe you should train the cat to respond to which detector the particle went thru. Then if the experiment only responds to a human measurement, the cat could have the real answer to the question posed by this video. Would the results then change if the cat could signal the information to a human? Someone else probably thought of this before.
@@conniejurgs9427 Castrated cat WILL NEVER cooperate with human being, therefore it won't respond to your answer. LOL.
Well then, that would mean that the interference pattern would remain in place according to quantum theory. We had a cat like that once. It was also declawed on the front. Poor kitty!
Hmm
Of all videos in the Internet, this video gives the best explanation of the DCQE experiment. Most accurate, as well as comprehensible. Not easy to explain something complex in a field that one has been working on for perhaps decades, to layperson. Incredible.
Thanks for the compliment about my explanation.
Eugene, you posses a very unique and effective view of the pedagogical approach needed for a gradual explanation of these phenomena.
Giovanni Andreani Thanks for the compliment.
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so..if I jump of a really high building with my eyes closed?....
I hypothised a future pridictor using this
Music name till 2:25???
How can I communicate with you?
@@محمودمنيرالحروي ??to whom..
Mind = Blown, or least I think, I haven't observed it yet to confirm...
That was a very creepy cat, but this is probably the most well-made video I have ever seen. It made an extremely difficult and non-intuitive topic relatively easy to follow and understand. Great job and I hope to see more like this!
Not really. Nothing about this intuitive especially with the strange cat animation acting as though the mere act of looking at a detector changea reality
@@Berniebud Hi. May i recommend you; a science-youtube-fan;
some more science-youtuber?
@@Berniebud The cat is very important
The cat's creepiness was needed to kinda erase the multiple questions from each fact, to not block more information 😁
Eugene, congratulations for your fabulous videos! The way you present quantum phenomena is unique. I can understand the great effort required to do so. Especially I want to congratulate you for that: You enter into the essence of the concept - the nature - of observation, something many others avoid thoroughly.
Oh my god! That was hands down the best explanation I never came across in my life. Thank you!
Thanks for the compliment about my explanation.
Chaitanya kumar Try Tom Campbell.
This has got to be one of the best explanations for the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser. Thank you :)
This is a very interesting "reverse" variation of the Yoon-Ho Kim, Rong Yu, Sergei P. Kulik, and Yanhua Shih Delayed "Choice" Quantum Eraser. In the above video, the entangled pairs are created within the crystal photon detector. What is even more interesting, is that the experiment has both particle and wave behavior occurring simultaneously, and which state it is that you wish to view is determined by which "emitted photon" detector it is that you wish to monitor.
Even if I never fully understand this experiment, I will continue to watch it for the cat. You know that it's not real and that it is just an assembly pixels, yet you still acknowledge it as a cat, wanting to see something less eerily false because your mind has convinced you that it is supposed to be something which it is not.
A curious thing. 😵
Still blows my mind as it did 7 years ago,love your channel
Thanks.
Thank you for keeping up these videos, for me this is the best explanation
Now's a good time to get my bong out
FocusReborn So you won't remember most of the important points? What you should do is watch the video first and understand it, and THEN take a bong rip. Once your high, let your imagination wander.
I like the way you think.
+Alexandro Ochoa Me too!
+Alexandro Ochoa I find that THC helps me concentrate. If I were sober I probably wouldn't have paid full attention to the whole video.
after a dessert of shroms
Dammit i told you the universe wasn't ready for offical release yet.
It doesn't show any programming bugs in this one. I'll say it works perfectly. Just doing the math algorithms, only when necessary.
@14:30
This is called a Von Neumann Chain. The detectors do not collapse the superposition, but becomes entangled with it, also becoming a superposition, so the whole system will share a common wavefunction until an observation is made.
For example:
What would happen if we conducted the Schrodinger's Cat experiment inside another bigger box containing both the box with the cat, the scientist and another mechanism to kill the scientist (this is our eraser... haha) if the cat is found dead? The scientist's state would be entangled to the state of the cat, which would be entangled to the state of the radioactive particle, so the whole system would share a common wavefunction which would not collapse until someone from outside the system observe it.
Now to blow our minds:
What if we conducted this experiment with everyone in the world? Billions of boxes, one inside another, containing a person and a mechanism to kill that person if the previous was found dead? The system's wavefunction would only collapse if it is observed by outside the system. This has two solutions: or the system is never collapsed, what would mean that no one would actually be dead, but both dead and alive, even if the cat was found dead by the first scientist (a sort of solipsism, where the state of the "whole world" depends on you), or there is some sort of "omnipresent cosmic observer" which looks down at us to say we are alive or dead (a sort of theism).
This is the Wigner's Friend Paradox.
+Matheus Adorni Dardenne The problem is that we can observe the cloth pattern BEFORE we decide whether to quantum erase or not (i.e., say the photons must travel an hour before they hit the beam splitters that erase the path information). In this case, since we have already observed the cloth, we know whether or not the wave function collapsed and can use the information to choose to erase or not erase, breaking down this whole system, it seems.
SteelBlueVision The crazyness of it is that whatever answer we observe on the cloth always correlates with our decision to erase the data or not. This is why some (like Wheeler) argue this experiment implies in retrocausation.
+Matheus Adorni Dardenne But, our decision to erase the data or not comes much later in time than our perception of the cloth. This creates a paradox, because our decision can intentionally be the opposite to what we see on the cloth.
+SteelBlueVision it can't, what we decide in the future will correlate with what the cloth shows. How can I put it; the pattern in the cloth is always incomplete until the other photon hits the detector, when it does, the sum of both patterns becomes the final result... we cannot see on the cloth what the decision will be on the future, it seems "ambiguous" until then, and corresponds both with the predictions of wave-like and particle-like behavior.
+Matheus Adorni Dardenne Sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me. What it sounds like you are saying is that the pattern on the cloth does not form until the photon's information is either revealed or erased. But there are four particles at play here, the photons which head off in their own direction and their corresponding larger particles which head for and are detected on the curtain.
However, in my thought experiment, the larger particles hit the curtain first (in time), thus forming an interference pattern (or not) on the curtain. This happens > before already formed long ago < on the curtain
2) The curtain pattern changes > retroactively < based on what we decide to do with the photons (also a paradox of sorts?) It then appears to us that even though we had the intention to do the opposite, for some unexplainable reason we chose to act with the photons in a way that corresponds with what appeared on the curtain. We try again, and again, inexplicably, we decide to act with the photons in a way that corresponds with the curtain pattern instead of in contradiction to it.
3) The pattern on the curtain reflect what we will do in the future with the photons and once we see it, try as we might, we will only deal with the photons in a way that is compatible with the curtain pattern.
Please someone explain to me how this isn't true:
Say you have your double slit in your laboratory on Earth. Each gate has a photon-emitting crystal detector as shown in this video. The photons from the detectors are amplified and then beamed into space directly toward a Mars laboratory. Say Mars is 10 light minutes away. You activate your double slit at precisely 3:00:00. You have a prior arrangement with the astronaut in the Martian laboratory that he will choose to either insert the mirrors and erase the data (stripe pattern) or omit the mirrors and collect the data (collapse the wave function) at, say, precisely 3:09:59, one second before the light from your experiment reaches him from Earth. Wouldn't you already know at 3:00:01 which action he is going to take judging by which pattern appears on the wall behind your double slit on Earth? Couldn't you use this to communicate with him faster than light? What if he also had a double slit and you also had an eraser/detector setup, couldn't you then communicate across infinite distances instantaneously?
Nice twist :)
Nice thought!
I may have an idea why this isn't true, but do note I'm new to this subject.
I'm thinking if the Martian 'chooses' whether to insert or omit mirrors, the wave function collapses. It's no longer probability. If instead of choosing it was a probability, then it can't be used for communication. Right?
without the information from the detector, you won't be able to tell the difference between patterns. The blue and purple pattern you see is only formed by matching the data from the beam splitter with the wall.
You say you would already know which action he is going to take at 3:00:01, but that's not true. You already know it before that because of the prior arrangement.
If you didn't make an arrangement, he would have to send his data back to earth, otherwise you wouldn't be able to recover any pattern... I think.
You can't erase the information after the particles hit the cloth, therefore, you'll never observe a stripped pattern.
This channel is simply the best for me. A lot of channels illustrate complex concepts like this one, with fancier animations but for inexplicable reasons, this makes actual intellectual undestanding simpler for me. Thanks for the good work!
Thanks!
my mind is in a superposition of blown and confused
Welcome to the club...🤔
I'm so glad this video talks about the very fundamental concepts and I think this is the only one I've seen so far which has explained "What erasing of information means", I've been quite confused about it in the other videos which just seem to mention it without really explaining clearly. Thank you!
Thanks.
The 5 second delay between sentences is killing me
+aroseland1 fast forward , video speed 1.25 .
5 seconds quantumlly erased
Watch at double speed and read the captions.
Watch at double speed and read the captions.
The background music is a distraction too.
My brain wasn't ready for this. Amazing stuff. Thank you.
jeez, the universe is so troll
Bohr is the fucking troll. He was a fucking idealist. Check out pilot wave theory or Bohmian mechanics.
@@BlingSco you are a Physics noob. Or worse, a Physics troll.
@@BlingSco Bohemian mechanics are the best.
The clarity and precision of the English voice-over is exceptional which give even more value to this extra-ordinary video.
Thanks for the compliments.
As always, great work Eugene.
Another great lecture. It's amazing how Theoretical physics is yielding such good communicators.
4:10 - 4:25
... according to my calculations: in order for the experiment to work, we must kill the cat.
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This is an excellent video. Part of an excellent series. Some of the videos in the series have explained things I've been trying to understand for a long time.
So, that MUST be Schrodinger's cat, right?
Yes, that is Schrodinger's cat. He makes appearances in many of my videos.
@@EugeneKhutoryansky 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You don't have to observe the results. Plus, observe is the wrong word. Measure is a better word. Interaction is required to measure.
Looking away doesnt create an eraser effect, meaning that observation is irrelevant.
It's the possibility of measuring which-way, is what changes the result.
If you set up this experiment with a timer, and then kill all living beings in the universe before the timer commences the experiment, the result would be still be as predicted. Even without a living being observing the result.
What exactly qualifies as observation?
Pseudo That is a matter of considerable debate, and no one knows for sure. Any detector consists of particles which are also described by wave-functions, which don't seem to collapse until they are "observed."
Eugene Khutoryansky Isn't it more about our knowledge of the system rather than observation?
As I understand it scientists use some kind of measuring device to
measure which slit the particle goes through. So if you don't put a
measuring device in front of the slits you'll get an interference
pattern, but if you do put a measuring device in front of the slits to
measure which slit it goes through you get that clump pattern instead.
So, what would happen if you just placed your own two eyes in front of
the slits instead of the measuring device? Wouldn't that be an
observation too?
But then again, your eyes wouldn't be able to see which slit the
particle goes through since it's so tiny for us to see, so my prediction
would be that if we placed our eyes in front of the slits instead of
the measuring device we would get the interference pattern since our
eyes can't really see which slit it goes through, hence why I think it's
more about knowledge of the system rather than observation.
So just by looking at the slits with your own eyes without any detectors/measuring device would NOT qualify as an observation.
Am I correct or what, Eugene?
What I'm trying to say is that the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Experiment shows that it isn't the detectors themselves which cause the wave function to collapse but rather that an observation of a conscious being that does it. So if you know which path the particles took which means you know which slit it went through the wave function collapses e.g. you get a clump pattern. But if you don't know which slit the particles went through you get the interference pattern.
But what if a cat were to look at the data instead of a human? I've made the assumption that it's the knowledge of the system which causes the wave function to collapse. (You know which slit the particle went through, therefore the wave function collapses.) But since I would call a cat a concious being, what would happen if a cat were observing the data from the detector instead of a human? I would assume the cat doesn't know anything about the experiment, what it is, what it's all about, which slit the particle went through even if it looked at the data etc. So since the cat doesn't have the knowledge of which slit the particle went through, but is at the same time a conscious being, what would the cat see? Would the cat read something different out of the detector than we would do?
Would the cat only see the interference pattern/read it out from the detector since it doesn't have the knowledge of which slit the particle goes through?
+Eugene Khutoryansky The problem is that the decision to "erase" can be made years after the particles have landed on that cloth. That is, whether or not beam splitters are employed can be really really delayed into those futures, so those photons travel for a very long time before the information contained within them is erased. In this case, what is the pattern on the cloth? Since it is formed before the choice of whether beam splitters will be employed to perform quantum erasure.
+mEPknuser "I've made the assumption that it's the knowledge of the system which
causes the wave function to collapse. (You know which slit the particle
went through, therefore the wave function collapses.)"
Yes, you are correct. Its the case. Think about entanglement. If the other particle is to the opposite side of the universe, if you measure the one that is here, you automatically know the status, the reality of the other.
Because the two particles, are one system, they are under the same wavefunction.
+Eugene Khutoryansky I have two questions about this video that seem most appropriate to ask in this reply thread.
1. If I understand correctly, a "Quantum Eraser" is essentially an array of reflecting mirrors placed in front of the two detectors/holes to allow for the possibility of the photon passing through either. It would seem then that for this to work, it must be functioning at the time of the experiment itself. How would one "activate" such a device after the fact when the photon/wave has already completed its journey past the point of the detector and through the two holes (or to phrase it perhaps more accurately, "done whatever it has done")?
2. I would also very much like to know what qualifies as an observation. If I understand the information you have presented correctly, it seems as if objects do NOT qualify, but living, thinking observers DO? Or am I misunderstanding? Would a computer recording the event count as an observer if the data on its drive was erased before anyone had the opportunity to look at it?
I love your videos, and I thank you very much for making them! These are very difficult concepts to grasp for the uninitiated (people like me).
Nice vid. I love the cat so please keep him/her around for the future quantum videos.
+9009Hayden, thanks. And yes, the cat will always stay alive and healthy for future videos.
+Physics Videos by Eugene Khutoryansky phew...
+Physics Videos by Eugene Khutoryansky Just don't let that Schrödinger guy around him. If you do, you'll never know what could happen to him
NyteMunkey XD
Are the speech pauses to allow time for information to travel backwards through time?
This is one of the finest videos on this channel...😍😍😍😍
25:27 revenge of the Shrodinger's cat?
The more I watch his videos the more surprised I get. Love your work as always Eugene
Thanks!
14:32 So this means that there is a difference between a conscious observer like us and and an unconscious observer like the detector? That question is on my mind for quite some time now, does the universe differentiate between consciousness and "non-consciousness" ? Wouldn't that mean that without consciousness there cannot be a definite reality?
Hmmm this was probably asked by so many people, what do you think of this?
edit: okay i just finished the video, should have waited to ask that question since it is mentioned at the end :D hopefully you will adress this kind of stuff in the future videos
niv skillsurf Whether or not consciousness makes a difference is a matter of debate. There are a number of different philosophical interpretations of Quantum Mechanics. One of them states that a wave-function collapses when it is observed by a conscious observer. The other interpretations have a different explanation. And yes, as you said, I plan to eventually make a video that addresses the different philosophical interpretations.
There is no reason to assume Consciousness has anything to do with it when you entanglement I don't think. You could just say we only see the wave function we entangle with
niv Gnasherus The detectors aren't doing reading. The detectors have to be read by a recording device. Once that happens, the quantum wave collapses. In the real Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser experiment photons are hitting the screen or the detectors at a rate too fast for humans to decide whether or not to read a detector. Fast processors are implementing software to record no not record through which slit the entangled photon and it's entangled partner that hit the screen earlier in time. We can only play back the recording and match entangled particles. From the recording, we see that when it is known through which slit a photon passes, the photon hitting the screen acts like a particle. From the recording, we see that when it is not known through which slit a photon passes, the photon hitting the screen acts like a wave. There is no human consciousness involved. Quantum entanglement appears to break distance and convey information faster than the speed of light, instantaneously. Quantum entanglement appears to break time and convey information backward in time. Three years after this video,I have seen no papers that can satisfactorily tidy up this mess. A decision in the present causes an outcome in the past. 😖😖😖😖😖
@@khaledyasser8293 We do have a reason to assume consciousness is at play because the primary variable in this experiment is knowledge of how its set up.
Also, reading comments below - I realize most of them have nothing to do with the topic. It appears as though everyone wants to be a comedian. Hopefully, that doesn't discourage Eugene from making more videos.
im thinking this is more about how mass, space and time are tied together than wave particle duality
Because from photon reference frame without rest-mass, there is no causality and all events happen simultaneously from the photon pov. Light speed is causality speed so as instantaneous as you can get. Not from outside inertial frame however (they appear to move lightspeed).
Move interactions are physical interactions with another inertial frame so appear to obey causality.
This experiment is NOT it is the photon's information being changed, its knowledge and not a material process. It must some how know its own wave function, or pilot wave as an informational omniscient thing...
This is well done, especially explaining how no information is transmitted faster than c. However, I had to wait for the description of the test configuration near the end to see the context. Without the context it is nearly impossible to connect the first half to physical reality. Please and thank you, Next time start with the context and then explain the results. Thumbs up for the best explanation on the internet.
Thanks for the compliment about my explanation.
The creepiest cat I have ever seen
It's the quantum cat. Everybody recognizes her.
at 11:29 i started thinking that a bunch of hunters had it with its creepiness and were after its head.
The cat is stressed out by 80 years of rumors of having his life threatened.
that is a shrodingers cat.. 🐈
This is what happens when a cat is both alive AND dead at the same time...
Question: Hypothetically, if a person observed the detection of a particle and they were the only person to do so. They died, and the quantum eraser was activated to remove all other evidence of the detection would it return to a striped pattern or would the detection remain intact?
No, even if you died, the evidence of what you observed would still be in the molecules of your diseased brain. If you were cremated, then the evidence would be in the ashes.
That is mind blowing
This video scares me. What in the world in going on at the Quantum level?
sounds like just like a videogame, things aren't rendered if there are no players around.
Thanks, Eugene, another fabulous video--and I'll be re-watching this one more than a few times. Some videos on physics feature narrators who talk really fast--possibly to sufficiently engage attention. I love it that your narrator talks at a normal pace with lots of pauses and sometimes repetitions to allow me to absorb the ideas. Your music and animations do the engaging. And, of course, the animations often help with visualizing. This is a brilliant and unique approach. I wish other video makers understood this.
+Alexandra Hopkins, thanks for the compliment. I am glad that you like the video, and the pace of the narrations. And thanks for the compliments on the animations.
+Alexandra Hopkins -- the fast ones that I despise, are the ones where they finish the video and then edit out the small pauses between sentences/paragraphs. Thus it becomes just one endless no pause nightmare.
That cat is far more stranger than quantum mechanics ^_^
I kept wondering if it was supposed to be Schrödinger’s or if the narrator is a serious cat lady.
Cat catter cattest
Fascinating! As someone who never had any more schooling and basic math and science, I've been fascinated at learning these things now when I'm 55! So please don't laugh at me, but, what if these experiments were performed in many different places at the same time and all the documented info was recorded together at the same time to see if these particles somehow communicate with each other elsewhere in place/space and time? I don't even know if that makes sense but if the process of just looking changes things? Wow, what a mind blowing experiment that might be!
is that the quantum eraser send information back in time or is it that the particle is deciding after passing through the quantum eraser ? It seems to me it about the timing of the choice being made, not that the "eraser" is doing anything at all...
So if a tree falls in the forest, and no one is there, does it make it sound?
The Bigger question Ed is does that tree even exist whilst no one is there to observe it and are you just data in my universe till the day I observe you and materialize you into form...you exist in yours whilst you observe yourself, but how about your face and back side ? your not observing those right now ... :p *as Ed reaches round to grab his butt and check if he is real* :p
Thanks for the new video Eugene, ever since I heard about physicists at ANU doing this experiment I have wanted you to make a video on it to allow me to understand it better. Great job, love all your other videos too!
blake301987 Thanks. I am glad that you liked this video, and all my other videos too. Lots more are on their way.
Thank you so much. The animation really helps. Quantastic!
+Deacon Verter, glad you liked it. Thanks.
especially that cat, this video would be pointless without it.
Eugene Sir, what is the name of the music in the starting? it perfectly blended with your beautiful presentation
All the music in this video is from the free UA-cam audio library, and the names of the songs are the following.
Stale Mate
William_Tell_Overture_by_Rossini
1812_Overture_by_Tchaikosvky
I really enjoy your videos. I would like to just make a comment about the music selection though. I think it would be VERY impactful if you choose darker music. Much of the "happy" major songs seem to take away from the awe-inspiring effect your videos generally leave upon a person. I see you use music form the Audio Library of UA-cam. If you choose more music from the Dark category (Classical and Ambient are usually the best of the dark genre), music more abstract and maybe even a little disturbing, I think you could greatly enhance the quality of your videos and add a uniqueness factor to your videos (All of the commercial industry already uses happy ukulele songs, you should avoid doing that). If you add this dimension to your videos (haunting music with awe-inspiring physics revelations), I believe you could gain a cult following. I with you the best with your channel and I hope you consider my suggestion.
Hey Daniel. I really enjoy the background music to be honest. I was wondering where is he taking it from. Do you know? Thanks in advance mate!
music is william tell overature, the lone ranger bit is at the end.
The pause between important information, as well as the 3D cat, helped more to understand this very difficult topic. Big thanks to the animator for making things basic!
Thanks.
@@EugeneKhutoryansky 7 year old video, and a reply within minutes!? 😊 I wasn't prepared for that!
Here is the problem. To be an observer one must be conscious. But, we don't know what consciousness is so we don't know what an observer is either. Since we don't know what consciousness is we can't say for certain that that the particles themselves are not conscious. If the particles are conscious, they may change the way the mind perceives the patterns they make.
+CurbsideJimmy Haha lol. Everything is alive and watching you. They are keeping tabs on what you do whether you like/know it or not. c:
Curbside Jimmy No, an observer can be an nonconscious thing such as polarisation glasses
Steve Bergman
How so? It seems to me one of two possible things happen in this scenario
1 - Consciousness - meaning the awareness that some event has taken place - causes the "rest" of the event to also materialize, in the sense that if a particle is measured at a given point, it must have traversed through a certain path to get there, or
2 - All the events have been laid out in advance as an infinite set of possibilities, and when observation - or just the mere fact that an event has taken place - "forces" the event into existence in its entirety. That, however, would imply that time is only a dimension we travel through, and everything that ever was or will be was "created" instantaneously before even the first ever event to take place in our universe.
Seems to me like both scenarios imply the existence of consciousness, either within or outside the system. In the first scenario, the universe would be the consciousness I'm referring to. In the second scenario, an outside consciousness would have "created" the entire set of possibilities and then set it in motion.
What am I missing?
A huge thanks for your videos. I have wanted to have something in-depth like this for a good while.
Thanks. I am glad you like my videos.
Quantum physics is so crazy! Very good video.
jmanc3 Thanks for the compliment about the video.
a thing i dont understand, is how they measured it? what tools did they use? its all philosophical and hypothetical..what gave them the outcome?
First of all I would like to say that I think your videos are absolutely fantastic.
Except the two about quantum mechanics. You really make it seem like consiousness has some important role in the double slit experiment, which is definitely not the consensus by physicists. Im not sure if you really believe that or if it is a mistake by my part from interpreting the video, but you unfortunately make it look like it (a lot of youtube videos do) for example when the cat is closing its eyes and the results change. "Observing" in quantum mechanics does not mean "consious beeing observing". I believe interfere or disturb is a better word to avoid confusion.
Andreas Henriksson I also thought that consiousness had nothing to do with it, but how can it then be that the wave function does not collapse by measuring, but only by the information that the measurement produces? (As shown by the use of a quantum eraser) Khutoryanski already promised a video about the phylosophical concequences of this.
Andreas Henriksson There are a number of different philosophical interpretations of Quantum Mechanics. One of them is, in fact, the idea that the wave function collapses only when a conscious observer observes it. There are also many other interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, where consciousness does not play a role. However, all these other interpretations have to explain why the data makes it seem as if consciousness is involved. In my videos on Quantum Mechanics, I leave this as an open question, and I only state that it "seems" as if consciousness plays a role. I never explicitly state whether it does or doesn't, as this is a matter of debate, and no on really knows for sure when or how the wave-function collapses.
Eugene Khutoryansky Yes, there is a number of different philosophical interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, and one of the more unpopular (by physicist) and silly ideas is the idea that consciousness plays a role - an idea often used by new-age people and such who misuse Quantum mechanics to fit their own view.
What counts as consciousness? can a toddler collapse the wave function, a chimpanzee? dog? insects? This obviously creates some ridiculous problems (and its actually quite arrogant to believe that we humans possess a special ability to collapse the wavefunction..)
And I do not agree that the data seems as consciousness has something to do with it, just that your explanation of the problem make it look that way ;)
As a matter of fact I have never heard of any physicists that believe in this interpretation (Im a physics student, and have asked my professors about this)
I know you never explicitly stated anything, but you sure emphasized this very disfavored interpretation.
Andreas Henriksson All I am doing is leaving open the possibility that consciousness plays a role, without stating whether it does or doesn't, as there is presently no way to prove this one way or the other. Also, I think that the percentage of physicists who think that consciousness plays a role might actually be higher than you think, though they would disagree with each other over what counts as consciousness. In any case, the biggest issue I see for the view that consciousness plays a role is the question of what the Universe was doing before there were conscious observers in it, such as before any planets had yet formed in the Universe to support life.
Andreas Henriksson You are not considering that, maybe, consciousness has something to do. I am not by far instructed at quantum mechanics but using the logic that my knowledge in programming has granted me I can take a shot at it. This is that maybe our "consciousness" is like a system that kind of constructs a solid experience through the possible quantum outcomes so we can actually be self aware of our existence. I mean if you try really hard to think what consciousness is you will realize that it is way beyond understanding; it is like trying to see the back of your head in a place with no reflective surfaces. So what I'm trying to say is that maybe the Universe, time, space, and all energy and particles make no sense and are not correlated at all but our consciousness (which I think might be created by the way the particles in our brains are set up) is so complex that can make everything make sense among the quantum chaos and make us feel, well, conscious.
great explanation, very insightful, good work as always!
Anon Ymous Thanks for the compliment. I am glad you liked it.
This is a tough one. Will rewatch.
I think this is one of your best. I look forward to seeing your next masterpiece when it comes out :)
pendalink Glad you liked it. Lots more videos are on their way.
That cat gives me nightmares.
So does this mean that if we go for example a lightyear away from the actual holes and the pattern and put our quantum eraser there we can actually change something that happened a lightyear away, thus altering a thing that happened a year ago.
For example, the observer is a lightyear away and decides to look at the results and boom it changes the pattern that was formed a lightyear away from him which means that he transferred information faster than light?
Any talk of the content of human consciousness being the deciding factor of whether or not "reality" is real is obvious nonsense! There is something fundamental that we have not understood
why?
Here is my opinion.
I don't think human consciousness is the deciding factor, but the fact that the information of the experiment exists somewhere in the universe. It can be registered on a sheet of paper, a hard drive or a brain. It looks like we are also entangled with the whole experiment.
I agree. It's very suspicious that this experiment is so accepted among prominent thinkers.
The blind jump from physics to philosophy is obscene. Physics has something to gain as does philosophy. Very politicized.
This is very interesting! It seems to me it must be consciousness that does the observing, but others say this quantum erasure proves that consciousness isn't involved. Colour me confused. How on earth do they reach that conclusion?
I'm not against the consciousness thing; however, what we get from this is that it's about Information, not consciousness. Which is still weird; non materialism oriented, and annoys some people so much that they would rather say something Time Travelled than admit the nonmaterialistic outcome of the experiment. Personally, I think consciousness is embedded in the fabric of the cosmos, and is connected to some of this. Peace
Ha! Schrodenger's cat's person.
I really love your quantum science videos. I am so glad you are going to make another one.
space laser dank raccoon Thanks. I am glad to hear that you love my quantum videos.
At 22:50, there are 2 cases out of 4 where we can tell form which hole particle passes. Here also we get interference pattern(as per video). what will happen if we go on increasing this possibility.like ,8 out of 10 ....or 98 out of 100 cases we know (which mean almost all the time we know).will there be interference pattern ? or it will be dark two strips with light interference ?
Hi Eugene. To me this awfully stinks of Superdeterminism proposed by Bell himself. Could you perhaps do a video that looks at this phenomena from that lens?
Does the two slit experiment need to be done in a vacuum in case the air in the room interacts with the particle therefor theoretically you could figure out which slit the particle went through?
Or on a different scale, don't particles cause gravity so theoretically you can measure the particles gravitational wave effects somehow and determine which slit it went through? In that case you wouldn't really be affecting or touching the particle as it flies through the slit? I'm trying to think of a way you might theoretically detect something without actually disturbing it.
Thank you for these wonderful videos!
Mindblowing. Excellent video, as always
+AC Souza, thanks.
Eugene Khutoryansky Your scientific channel is my favorite, while i like math as a way of communicating these things, and the first time i truly was fascinated by phisics is the time i first examined a few formulas for the theory of relativity.
But that requires an understanding of math that ordinary people just dont have, and also a will of wanting to translate math, which also not much people have. You, though...you show a different method of making others understand, and since i dont have as much understanding of math as id like to have right now, i, too hear a lot of fascinating things for you. Thank you, and Im glad you keep making videos (until you started making those short videos i always worried you stopped making them).
Though if you are interested enough to doubt the stuff mentioned in your videos, one still needs math. ;P
Also it may be just a personal preference (so please take no offense, i realize other people might like different stuff), but I like your vids about modern physics much more, than your videos about stuff i learnt and understood in high school (stuff about electricity, excluding the one about transistors) or very basic math like dividing with fractions, trigonometrics, and even calculus (i hoped you would include calculus in your future videos as proving or showing other stuff).
I'm looking forward to your videos about string theory, and even the theory of everything (which is im aware not yet exists, still an interesting topic). Also about the four (which is now 3 if im correctly informed) basic forces. But whatever you make, you have my support! You are awesome. :)
gbBakuryu Thanks for that great compliment, and I am glad to hear that my channel is your favorite. I believe it is important to be able to describe the phenomena without mathematics both for the benefit of the people who don't have a strong background in mathematics, and also for the benefit of those that do. Often, many physics students end up being very good at solving the equations, while still not having much of an understanding of what it is that the equations are actually representing. This is one of the reasons why I believe that having these visualization is important. Also, I believe that this is important to do for modern physics as well as for classical physics and mathematics, as there are many people who don't have a good understanding of classical physics or mathematics, or are now in the process of learning it for the very first time. Thanks again for the compliment, and lots more videos are on their way.
Here's an experiment I'd like to see. A macro double slit with tennis balls and a screen where the tennis balls hit after being launched randomly in the general direction toward the 2 slits. Completely enclose the system so no one can ever see or determine which slit the tennis balls go through. It may sound stupid but it's been bugging me.
@22:30 let's just have this set up as seen on screen and have a switch to slide the two outer mirrors. When the mirrors are out eraser is on. When mirrors are in eraser is off. Now let's have this setup arranged such that photons take several minuites to reach the outer mirrors from the detection crystals. Now send one photon into the double slit and observe the back screen. Will there be interference or not. After seeing the patern on the screen then operate the switch so as to contradict what you saw on the screen. That is...if you see interference on the screen immediately put the eraser in off position so that we can get the path information. What result would we get.
Fantastic soundtrack, and great animations. I particularly like the cat looking very inquisitively at the little puffs of wave.
+Dion Silverman, glad you liked my video.
Is this proving that detectors alone can't collapse the wave function? Also proving that a machine can't be considered as an observer?
Please respond, i'm very interested in the subject.
Yes... And not that I'm against observer or consciousness related discussions; but what we can say from this is that it's about whether the information is available, not to an observer, but just in general. So yes, it Cannot be the Interaction with device; that is correct.
Very great video!! I just loved your explanations, you've helped me a lot!
Please keep these videos coming!!
Theenerd ジェームズ Thanks again for the compliment. I am glad that you love my explanations, and that they are helpful. And yes, lots more videos are on their way.
Was false knowledge ever tested to have any effect? What I mean is: say an observer is purposefully lead to believe in the presence of an active quantum eraser (which there isn't) and measuring devices, and the observer believes that the striped pattern should occur. Given that the observer would be unable to know the path of the particles (due to the belief that its impossible to know), will they produce the striped pattern? Or does the act of the observer giving or receiving correct information from others who are aware of the quantum eraser count as observation? Perhaps there is a difference in whether or not relates to knowledge in the future, even if the information is exchanged days or weeks later. I know this is kind of arbitrary, but it's out of curiosity.
+Gijs Schenk Well, one would think that mere observation wouldn't affect experiments, either. It was detailed here that by removing the certainly of the path of the particles from the observer, the wave pattern was recovered. I was inquiring more about whether it was the knowledge itself or the possibility of knowledge that was the factor. I was equating false knowledge with no knowledge, rather than defining "false knowledge" as some kind of actual knowledge.
I think the solution is "simple". If everything and everyone is a part of the All, then it is impossible to hide your own intention, as everything past,present and feuture is alredy known. So the electrons, that are themselves a part of the All, will always be influenced by the intention of the observer, be it past,present or future. And even if the observer was not conscious of his intention! Even if he did not have any intention at all! It is sufficient the fact that, if he would have had to decide, he would have chosen to observe the electrons as particles, to make that "possible-but not formulated-intention" a reality
Daayum son.
you forgot about the planck-quantized time-matter ozillation which causes a refraction of a hidden variable subset of the near impossible black vapor horizon in a dark energy flare context.
@@HoD999x WRONG !!!!! YOUR ASSUMING THE PARTICLE IS INTERFERING THE WAVE AT THE TIME IT PASSES THROUGH THE SLIT !!!! IF YOU KILL THIS ASSUMPTION THEN ALL IS GOOD !
The rythm is the right one for me, because you need to think a little further on your own in between each sentence. Repetition is useful too. I am getting it little by little. I think the little thing missing to complete the understanding is at the end to say why this cannot be used for communication backward in time. for example using morse code based on the 2 states : activation and beactivation of the quantum eraser.
+Eugene Khutoryansky Eugene, in this video I have some objections about the presentation of information erasure process.
Specifically, at 16:45 showing the beam splitter, you let it be understood that the photon will follow either one way or the other in each case. In quantum reality this is not right. Photon - if the path is not distinguishable (known) - will follow both paths by beamsplitter. Will pass through AND will be reflected, simultaneously.
Later (17:52) when placing special crystals to the position of the detectors near the slits, you mention that the particle will pass through one of them emitting a photon. I think this is not true. The particle will pass through potentially both crystals and the emitted photon will be obtained (as probability wave) from both sources (crystals).
At 19:54 you're showing the photon to travel from the crystals to the detectors with specific route at a time, that I also think is not right. Photon (or its wavefunction) will come from left and from right. It will be reflected from the left mirror and from the right mirror, and will be reach the beamsplitter from the two paths. It will be pass through the beamsplitter both ways simultaneously, interfering with itself. Of course only one detector will eventually measure a single photon, but until that time the path will not be unique, distinct.
At 22:30 and onwards things get complicated but extremely interesting.
Whether or not the information exists in our brains doesn't matter.
Any entanglement demonstration involving a choice illustrates that the subjective experience of scientist A making a choice, only he knows, violates locality as observed by scientist B, and so the subjective experience of scientist A does not occur in a finite box. Therefore, the human mind cannot be said to be inside a finite box such as the brain, the brain and body, or the body and the local environment regardless of how entanglement works.
At 5:31 the commentary says that the eraser is activated and yields the "first" type of measurement; then at 5:50 the commentary says that the eraser is activated and yields the "second" type of measurement. However, I'm completely confused here: just what is the "first" type of measurement, and what is the "second" type of measurement? I guess it might have something to do with the blue and purple "lights" on the eraser, but these are completely unexplained by the commentary. The eraser is presented with a description of its main function (removing data from the detectors), but zero indication in the commentary that it's also taking a measurement of some sort. So what is it measuring?
This is explained later in the video where I explain what it means to erase information.
it's creepy how much like a video game this makes real life sound;
things the user doesn't observe are not rendered, just abstracted to save processor resources
This is seriously what thought but it is not exactly same. Observation changes result
Think of a room like one big wave pattern. If we are in the room to observe what is happening, then we are included in the the wave pattern. If you think of the wave pattern as a math equation, adding something to the room adds another variable to the equation, which may or may not change the outcome of the equation.
I did execute this experiment in a lab as a physics student, with many photons at the same time but I still don't actually understand it properly, hopefully this video will help a bit.
Quantum mechanics is really unbelievable... BTW very informative video...
Glad you liked my videos. Thanks.
Thx for the video, you provided a easier way to understand this difficult and strange phenomenon
Barry D Glad to hear that my video made this phenomena easier to understand. Thanks.
How to send/receive information faster than light!:
A familiar double slit experiment setup, with a few automated computer bits attached will act as the receiver. A quantum eraser will be manipulated to act as a transmitter.
Emit photons through the crystal/slit arrangement, *one by one* but at a rapid frequency towards a screen. A computerized system would need to record where on the screen the photons hit and which crystal emitted a photon. The detector crystal results can be transmitted using plain radio to the quantum eraser device. Detector data only needs to reach the eraser *eventually* and not instantly since the particles are entangled, so technically the information already arrived by the time you made the observation. Photon emission at the double slits will need to be done continuously in order to receive and interpret a message.
The receiver computer system will look at the pattern of photons being created in the current time frame to determine if the photon path information is being erased or not. This is your "bit" of data.
When someone wants to send you an email from Saturn or whatever, they will need a quantum eraser thing hooked up to their own computer. To send a message their computer just needs to turn the eraser on and off like morse code (simple binary or on-off-keying would be more realistic) according to whatever protocol is used. Universally synchronized clocks will keep the transmitter and receiver in sync so that the system can error correct its self without the need for constant "handshaking" between bits of information.
Thank you for the incredible video! I have a question (I didn't find the answer in comments below): Does the probability of a particle passing through the beam splitter have to be exactly 1/2? If yes, how can we ensure that the probability of passing through is exactly the same as the probability of reflection? If no, couldn't we statistically estimate original information if the beam splitter is extremely biased?
The more photons you use, the closest the ratio to the value 1/2. You need a large number of photons to approach closely to 1/2.
from my layman's understanding of this phenomenon, i think there are probably only 2 possibilities. 1) the "many worlds" theory or 2) there are additional unknown/undetected dimensions, perhaps in which time is a vector, capable of changing direction. of course i can't exactly back these up with the math, but who knows?
5:41 Surely the obvious next step is to test this hypothesis by them observing which hole the particle went through and see if the stripey pattern is gone!
Eugene, your animations are great. I especially love the videos with cats.
Geoff Mulberry Thanks. I am glad that you like my animations, and that you like the cats.