"He's watching out for you" - AliceMe: Really? And how exactly is he doing that? For some reason, I find that hard to believe...even if Henry is Rumple's grandson
Henry: Ah yes a nice new realm far away from my 26347 relatives Alice: Your grandpa is always watching out for you Henry: ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW?
The difference between this episode's version of Alice/ Tilly compared to Alice/ Tilly in the rest of the season is staggering. Season seven Alice was a sweet, albeit distracted girl who was just trying to find her father. She had tea parties with her dolls when she was 17/18 and came up with nicknames for the girl she liked and ran headfirst into a crazed mob to save a monster because she thought that hurting anyone was wrong. Episode 1 Alice was honestly pretty sinister. She drugs Henry and ties him up underground to scare him into going home. Most shockingly, she says that when trouble happens, she wants to be far away from it, a stark contrast to the Alice that we see in the rest of season 7 that will help anybody even if she may get hurt from it. The same thing goes with Tilly. Tilly is a little... unhinged at times. She can be intense sometimes, more like the Alice that we see here which is interesting, what with shooting Weaver and all. Though that was when she was extremely confused and off the meds the Belfry makes her take, so we can cut her some slack. However, for the vast majority of season 7, she's a kind girl who won't stand for anyone being mistreated. Episode 1 Tilly, however, stalks Henry around town for Weaver and then literally _walks in on Weaver waterboarding someone and doesn't bat an eye._ No fear, no remorse, she doesn't even acknowledge the guy who's literally being tortured in front of her. I know that in later episodes, Tilly lies to Rodgers for Weaver about Eloise Gardener, but she noticeably feels pretty bad about it. What she witnesses here is objectively worse she just... doesn't care. It really makes you wonder what went on in the writer's room in between episode 1 and the rest of the season that made Alice/ Tilly's writing so inconsistent. Note: this is NOT me hating on Tilly/ Alice, she's one of my favorite characters in OUaT, and her familial relationship with Rodgers/ Hook and her romantic relationship with Margot/ Robin are two of my favorites period. I think that after this episode, the writers really start to flesh her out in a realistic, consistent way, but even that makes looking back at this episode so jarring.
Ya know Alice is complaining about everyone only knowing her from wonderland but when you carry around a bottle that says drink me. what are people supposed to think
NattyJane yea I agree but I also recognize her because of the dress and blonde hair I wonder if she has been to agrabah or Neverland also does she has light magic or black magic or maybe magic at all
Cupcake Queen to be fair other characters are only known by one thing to how does she thing Hansel and Gretel feel they only had a witch try to kill them once and hook wasn't always on Neverland or like how Wendy and her brothers only went to Neverrland once also ive never heard the name Alice once in any other fairytail so clearly she didnt make enough of an impression or also like how rumple was only known for the Miller's daughter thing and not the whole beast thing or for being fairy godmother each character is usually only known for like one story
NattyJane yea u are right every character is only known by one story for example snow is known to have an evil stepmother and the sleeping curse ,zelina is known for her green skin and being the wicked witch in Oz so yeah I get it and I want to know more about Alice and what is her story
Cupcake Queen yea I really want to see her in wonderland so far she is the most interesting character no offense to jacinda but I never liked cinderella its to closely related to snow white they should have picked somebody else for Henry love interest I think it would have been cool of his love interest was Alice and the queen of hearts was the main villain but of course they went with Cinderella frankly I dont see any chemistry but oh well
NattyJane well there is fan fiction for henry and Alice story like swanqueen but yea I wanna see more if her what if she is rumples adopted daughter because it would be a surprise if she is somehow related to henry
Its interesting how she chose to word that warning.....its the exact same warning Henry gives Emma in season 1 when she considers breaking the rules to leave town. "If you leave, BAD THINGS HAPPEN"
Henry met Alice before he met Emma in the New Enchanted Forest, when Emma said, she was pregnant, so how could Alice be Emmas daughter, if Henry met his pregnant mother after he met Alice.
Wow!! This is the new Alice? I don't believe it, she is great. But I miss Sophie Lowe as Alice, she looks great too. I am a huge Alice in Wonderland fan.
I personally disagree. The Alice from the spin-off was the worst thing about an otherwise good show. She was boring as hell and was played by a terrible actress that underacted to the max. This Alice is actually interesting and is played by an actress that can actually act.
Are you kidding the fuck with me? Alice from that spin off is one of the shittiest things i ever saw on televison, boring, dull with no personality, with an actress who can't act AT ALL. This one is an intriguing character with personality and charisma, and an actress with talent. Comparing the two is a total joke
So essentially the show continued on giving the fans hope of something new to come and we assumed it would be Henry finding his own story, but because OUAT is no Disney production they decided to attempt to steal other stories to try and write him into- except ''When it's not your story, bad things happen''. And the rest of the story is going to be about how he imposed himself on a different Cinderella version story and now is paying for the repercussions by having been cursed to the 'real' world along with his mother and other Hook... and the plot thickens. Not gonna lie of it all I really like that they mad Alice a weirdo, because if anything a girl that followed a rabbit down a hole and befriended the mad hatter has got to be weird and awesome AF. Also since she is here, will we be seeing Jefferson again? and could she possibly be Grace's mum? the girl was a sandy blonde after al.
Tamzin Brady to answer your question is is confirmed Alice is a lesbian and she looks really young to be grace's mother maybe she went into another wonderland
Keira Schneider they basically decided for season 7 to try the multiverse theory but with fairytales so this is a difference universe with a different timeline
Hello, is everyone forgets about Once Upon A Time In Wonderland??? Where we got our *TRUE ONE AND ONLY* Alice??? I like this Alice too but OUATW was the *only* one. I'm sorry but this is what i think
I could barely watch this episode, Season 7 is just awful... Season 1 through 6 is incredible but not 7. I'll keep watching though, I like seeing the characters and I'm interested to see where the story will go and if it will get better...
Once you understand the whole story, everything would make sense. It gets better after that and honestly if characters from the previous seasons are in here their roles and stories would be stretching and boring
since when Captain Hook is handsome? since when Mulan is lesbian? since when Peter pan is a psychopath ?, since when Rumplestilskin is the Beast of the beaty, who made up with the queen of hearts and her two daughters: the evil queen and the wicked witch of the west? since when Alice acts like the mad hatter?, since when Hercules died while he was still a teen?... i could stay like this the whole day LOL
Clara Olivia you re so stupid. Did you ask "since when does snow fight with swords and becomes pregnant?" If there can be so many changes in fairytales like even have a black Merlin why could she be Latin?
Clara Olivia there are different versions of the fairytales like the Grimes version or the version of into the woods were Cinderella stepsisters cut their toes
Alice is basically every OUAT fan: "Don't you know by now that your grandpa knows everyone?"
Azrael666Azazel yup
"He's watching out for you" - AliceMe: Really? And how exactly is he doing that? For some reason, I find that hard to believe...even if Henry is Rumple's grandson
why not? he is taking care of Alice right now, and she isnt even related to him
Alice was definitely one of the best things about the last series.
I love how Alice actress can look sane in one frame and then totally insane in the next just to switch back to the sane look cx
same the chess scene with hook is just lovely
yup she is a good actress she does the madness scene very good
Henry: Ah yes a nice new realm far away from my 26347 relatives
Alice: Your grandpa is always watching out for you
Henry: ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW?
ÁineE lol i love this he can never get a break poor henry
Only 4 episodes in this season, and Alice is already my favorite character.
Hell yeah, after a spinoff that sadly failed, finally Alice joined the world of Once!
No one can accuse Rumplestiltskin of not caring about his grandson, am I right?
John Gillespie +except when he gives him an elbow to the face.
Yeeeeaaahhh, your right.
John Gillespie
Except that time he stole and wasted the only piece of magic that was left to save Henry’s life.
He tried to kill henry in other alternative
@@susanensley4423 exept he wasnt awake at that time and only awake when he got shot
Not gonna lie... I kind of like this Alice. She's fun to watch!
"When it's not your story, bad things happen."
Did Alice just tell Henry he doesn't have plot armour?
Sounded like it to me
Alice is one of my new favourites
The difference between this episode's version of Alice/ Tilly compared to Alice/ Tilly in the rest of the season is staggering. Season seven Alice was a sweet, albeit distracted girl who was just trying to find her father. She had tea parties with her dolls when she was 17/18 and came up with nicknames for the girl she liked and ran headfirst into a crazed mob to save a monster because she thought that hurting anyone was wrong. Episode 1 Alice was honestly pretty sinister. She drugs Henry and ties him up underground to scare him into going home. Most shockingly, she says that when trouble happens, she wants to be far away from it, a stark contrast to the Alice that we see in the rest of season 7 that will help anybody even if she may get hurt from it.
The same thing goes with Tilly. Tilly is a little... unhinged at times. She can be intense sometimes, more like the Alice that we see here which is interesting, what with shooting Weaver and all. Though that was when she was extremely confused and off the meds the Belfry makes her take, so we can cut her some slack. However, for the vast majority of season 7, she's a kind girl who won't stand for anyone being mistreated. Episode 1 Tilly, however, stalks Henry around town for Weaver and then literally _walks in on Weaver waterboarding someone and doesn't bat an eye._ No fear, no remorse, she doesn't even acknowledge the guy who's literally being tortured in front of her. I know that in later episodes, Tilly lies to Rodgers for Weaver about Eloise Gardener, but she noticeably feels pretty bad about it. What she witnesses here is objectively worse she just... doesn't care.
It really makes you wonder what went on in the writer's room in between episode 1 and the rest of the season that made Alice/ Tilly's writing so inconsistent.
Note: this is NOT me hating on Tilly/ Alice, she's one of my favorite characters in OUaT, and her familial relationship with Rodgers/ Hook and her romantic relationship with Margot/ Robin are two of my favorites period. I think that after this episode, the writers really start to flesh her out in a realistic, consistent way, but even that makes looking back at this episode so jarring.
I actually disagree, sure she went on a bit of an arc but she was always the same in the flashbacks really
"Bad things happen Emma, leave the sword alone"
"If you leave the town, bad things happen"
Mr. Gold!
I love how they made Cinderella Hispanic instead of white
hispanic is not a race though lol
Samantha Cor did I include the word race? No so shh
But you said "instead of white" and you can be white and hispanic...
Henry Jackson wtf? Hispanic people are mostly white. You are the dumbest person on earth
Henry Jackson I know right! I just wish they had gotten a better actress tho, she just isn’t very compelling!
That thumbnail almost gave me a heart attack!
Finally someone who mentioned the thumbnail!
Ya know Alice is complaining about everyone only knowing her from wonderland but when you carry around a bottle that says drink me. what are people supposed to think
NattyJane yea I agree but I also recognize her because of the dress and blonde hair I wonder if she has been to agrabah or Neverland also does she has light magic or black magic or maybe magic at all
Cupcake Queen to be fair other characters are only known by one thing to how does she thing Hansel and Gretel feel they only had a witch try to kill them once and hook wasn't always on Neverland or like how Wendy and her brothers only went to Neverrland once also ive never heard the name Alice once in any other fairytail so clearly she didnt make enough of an impression or also like how rumple was only known for the Miller's daughter thing and not the whole beast thing or for being fairy godmother each character is usually only known for like one story
NattyJane yea u are right every character is only known by one story for example snow is known to have an evil stepmother and the sleeping curse ,zelina is known for her green skin and being the wicked witch in Oz so yeah I get it and I want to know more about Alice and what is her story
Cupcake Queen yea I really want to see her in wonderland so far she is the most interesting character no offense to jacinda but I never liked cinderella its to closely related to snow white they should have picked somebody else for Henry love interest I think it would have been cool of his love interest was Alice and the queen of hearts was the main villain but of course they went with Cinderella frankly I dont see any chemistry but oh well
NattyJane well there is fan fiction for henry and Alice story like swanqueen but yea I wanna see more if her what if she is rumples adopted daughter because it would be a surprise if she is somehow related to henry
Its interesting how she chose to word that warning.....its the exact same warning Henry gives Emma in season 1 when she considers breaking the rules to leave town. "If you leave, BAD THINGS HAPPEN"
I love the idea of Alice being Captain Swan's daughter.
Kayleigh Wilson same
Impossible, that happened, when Emma was still pregnant or even before.
FreeZyHacker Alice could be captain swan daughter ?
Henry met Alice before he met Emma in the New Enchanted Forest, when Emma said, she was pregnant, so how could Alice be Emmas daughter, if Henry met his pregnant mother after he met Alice.
But it still seems like a great headcanon.
I like to think that Rumple´s minion is the big bad wolf.
Wow!! This is the new Alice? I don't believe it, she is great. But I miss Sophie Lowe as Alice, she looks great too. I am a huge Alice in Wonderland fan.
I love when she said I’m Alice
I’m only on episode 6 in this season, and I haven’t watched or seen or read any spoilers but I think Alice is wish realm Hook’s daughter ??
I kind wished this show survived at least another a season and a half to deliver on that warning @2:35
Rumplestiltskin has been keeping an eye on Henry this whole time?😨😨😨
That woman’s eyes!
Question is who was the man being tortured by rumple
Ohhhhh this is the first time i saw rose reynolds portray BAd girl
Uugghh my heart
Is it me or is the same music from S5 playing now in S7?
I prefer the spinoff Alice
Bethany Bruce same
i like this one better
leron underwood same
I personally disagree. The Alice from the spin-off was the worst thing about an otherwise good show. She was boring as hell and was played by a terrible actress that underacted to the max. This Alice is actually interesting and is played by an actress that can actually act.
Are you kidding the fuck with me? Alice from that spin off is one of the shittiest things i ever saw on televison, boring, dull with no personality, with an actress who can't act AT ALL. This one is an intriguing character with personality and charisma, and an actress with talent. Comparing the two is a total joke
Is no one going to talk about how corrupted this world is?
So essentially the show continued on giving the fans hope of something new to come and we assumed it would be Henry finding his own story, but because OUAT is no Disney production they decided to attempt to steal other stories to try and write him into- except ''When it's not your story, bad things happen''. And the rest of the story is going to be about how he imposed himself on a different Cinderella version story and now is paying for the repercussions by having been cursed to the 'real' world along with his mother and other Hook... and the plot thickens. Not gonna lie of it all I really like that they mad Alice a weirdo, because if anything a girl that followed a rabbit down a hole and befriended the mad hatter has got to be weird and awesome AF. Also since she is here, will we be seeing Jefferson again? and could she possibly be Grace's mum? the girl was a sandy blonde after al.
Tamzin Brady to answer your question is is confirmed Alice is a lesbian and she looks really young to be grace's mother maybe she went into another wonderland
It wasn't even her father it was her step-father.
yes, but she loved him really
Alice is hook’s father
James Joseph u me hooks daughter
Not that I don't like Rose Reynolds' Alice in season 7 of OUAT, but I much prefer Sophie Lowe's plucky Alice portrayal in the spinoff.
This Alice was actually “mad”, she was way more refreshing and entertaining
@@loribeynon you have loved alice of the season 7 you too ?
@@soixsantes yes of course! The one in wonderland was boring
@@loribeynon me too i love alice, this is one of my favorite character in the season 7
I ship them or maybe they can be best friends
Cupcake Queen they could be half siblings ?
Stephanie. Page yea but we don't know that yet or how old she is maybe 15-18
It may be into that she’s lesbian
Howyaduing maybe she is bisexual instead of lesbian
@@devannyblanco3309 17
Am I the only one who's bothered by the fact that there was already a Cinderella in once before this and they looked nothing alike
Keira Schneider they basically decided for season 7 to try the multiverse theory but with fairytales so this is a difference universe with a different timeline
Yes. Yes u are
Hello, is everyone forgets about Once Upon A Time In Wonderland??? Where we got our *TRUE ONE AND ONLY* Alice??? I like this Alice too but OUATW was the *only* one. I'm sorry but this is what i think
whait alice is a bad guy
No
She knows this because she's the daughter of hook and emma
+Mercy and Raina Lol really
I could barely watch this episode, Season 7 is just awful... Season 1 through 6 is incredible but not 7.
I'll keep watching though, I like seeing the characters and I'm interested to see where the story will go and if it will get better...
Once you understand the whole story, everything would make sense. It gets better after that and honestly if characters from the previous seasons are in here their roles and stories would be stretching and boring
Since when Cinderella is a latin
since when Captain Hook is handsome? since when Mulan is lesbian? since when Peter pan is a psychopath ?, since when Rumplestilskin is the Beast of the beaty, who made up with the queen of hearts and her two daughters: the evil queen and the wicked witch of the west? since when Alice acts like the mad hatter?, since when Hercules died while he was still a teen?... i could stay like this the whole day LOL
Clara Olivia you re so stupid. Did you ask "since when does snow fight with swords and becomes pregnant?" If there can be so many changes in fairytales like even have a black Merlin why could she be Latin?
Clara Olivia there are different versions of the fairytales like the Grimes version or the version of into the woods were Cinderella stepsisters cut their toes
Alice and Henry.....a ship???❤
Caitlin Frost loves the CW they might be half siblings
Stephanie. Page yess
Stephanie. Page hmm maybe
well if Alice turns up being rumbelle's baby she would be Henry step aunt and that is more fucked up but i still ship them
Cupcake Queen if Alice turn out to be Mr gold daughter would that make Alice and henry aunt and nephew ?