@@gsvenddal728 ofc not all, but studies at least in germany have shown that the vast majority of wealthy heople become so threw inheritance and not because they are some sort of genious or have any special skill
The problem is not everyone has the aptitude for that. Some men just do not have that intelligence. I have a friend who had a low Iq unfortunately. He can only do as much s wash dishes and has speech issues.
I've never understood why people who are highly credentialed want other people who are highly credentialed.. it's just romantacized in media just sounds kind of depressing in real life. Having a 60 hour a week job as surgeon just to come home to meet with your wife who is lawyer who works 60 hours is dumb. One person in the household should be able to provide everything if they have a good job, much less a masters degree upper class type job. Imagine having a family with that person, who takes cares of the kids? The nanny, the school, the state? I grew up in a very affluent area, that everyone aspires to live in, and all the kids who had poor family relations because daddy and mommy worked 24/7.. all had serious developmental issues
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I do have to disagree with you at one point about the dating market. With the way our politics have been realigning around education lines such as college degree being the defining demarcation among white people, It clearly matters for something especially as Americans are less likely or willing to date and/or marry across a political aisle. This seems to be clearly a representation of a cultural divide which seems to increasingly dominate our politics
Your point about women being more risk-averse is spot on and has data to back it up. The question is, why are men generally viewing other avenues as better bets compared to a college education every passing year? What are the key drivers? Was it a gradual degradation of confidence, or were there turning points on the timeline? I think there is no doubt that a college education is fundamentally a worse product now than it was in past decades. However, it may be the case that college was generally overrated in the past and the imbalance we see between the sexes in enrollment today is just a natural reflection of our varied risk tolerance. If the data leans more toward the latter hypothesis, then what institutions are most culpable for lying to generations of kids? In my middle and high school, college was not presented neutrally as one avenue forward in life, but as an essential milestone for anyone who hoped to live a meaningful life or amount to anything. As one teacher put it, "You will get a degree or you better get used to the phrase: "Would you like fries with that?" ... As for your other points, I found them to be off-base. Too much of the video revolves around your vague hunches when there are countless data that might refute them.
When I was in elementary school 60 years ago, out of thirty children the two smartest kids in class were boys. The next ten smartest were mostly girls. Back then, only 10% of high school graduates went to college. So in that class, the top 10% would have been two boys and a girl. Today, if you want 40% of children to go to college, it would be those two boys and ten girls. Well, maybe there would have been a boy or two somewhere in the next ten, but you get the point.
After decades of left run teachers unions imo men are finding less common ground with thier college surroundings. They spent the last decade being told they are either victims or oppressors and I can't see why anyone would invest in the low quality US education has become. Over the decades the US slipped out of the top 30 in math and science so it's not even a competitive degree vs the developed world.
I think you have overstated the case that men aren’t going to college because colleges tell them they are oppressors. The economics of an individual’s choice to go to college matters more than the fact that some men may feel somewhat alienated when colleges discuss sexism.
I wish you spent some time addressing why men are dropping out more often now. Psychologically risk taking is increasing? Or men don't see the social benefits of proximity now? Doesn't explain why it is becoming more and more prevalent
If I had to guess the institutions have been declining in quality and affordability and there's so much social pressure to attend that men try it, experience all of the flaws and decide it isn't worth the price
Because after talking to “that kid” I can confidently say… so the extent of your research was talking to “that kid”… how and why I’m I still subscribed to this guy.
I am a woman, I currently have a boyfriend, but my thoughts regarding the degree were different while I was using dating apps. The degree wasn't about uniqueness or an attractive personality, it was mainly an indicator for a decent job. It's actually the opposite. Since I went to law school, a masters gave me the indication that we went through a similar life experience, indicating compatibility. I didn't go in with any hard criteria, for me it was important that he likes his job or has an interesting reasoning for doing it and the job has to be decent (legal/moral and enough income to afford our lifestyle, no not rich, but my vision of a future, being able to afford kids etc.)
Dude just casually neglects that the families of those uber wealthy dropouts were already uber rich, many of which also have connections to colonialism and slavery.
This feels so off-base, like a disjointed mess of half-baked thoughts you stewed up in isolation. Might've been more worth the effort to simply ask men why they dropped out and allow their answers to paint a more accurate picture
There are women who are in college to seek an MRS degree. Colleges are 2/3 women, now. Heh heh. Supply and demand. Chad is in heaven. You have to remember that non tech degrees somehow mean anything, any more. A BS in STEM is worth 5x a PhD in social sciences. If I was in college now- I'm male- I would ignore females. The risk of dealing with women in college is sky high, and climbing, for men. A woman's peak year for finding the best mate is 23 or so. A man's peak years for finding the best mate is when he has money- and more coming- say about 30-37. A woman of 35 is already in geriatric pregnancy range. A man of 35 is at a good age to get kids. Which is why, traditionally, men were about 10 years older than their wives, say to about the 1930's. Remember that scene in The Godfather, where Michael asks his niece's boyfriend about his channels of income? That was very real.
College has become too expensive. Then also it is perfectly understandable that many men find it dull or even pointless. Education is also quite effete in many respects and even effeminate which puts it squarely in the female wheelhouse, as it were. Then also when you’re young you’re more likely to have lots of unfounded optimism which perhaps will not be crushed by circumstance for some time. And historically many men who dropped out of college ended up in the military. Although I get the impression that younger women focus heavily on looks in the dating sphere I also believe that as they age they tend to become more snobbish than men. And there’s your point that geniuses don’t really need to go to college, at least if they’re artistic geniuses, inventors, or entrepreneurs. But even college dropout Bill Gates tells everyone to finish college. When he quit college he was already established in the computer business, for one thing, so it’s not as if his interest in computing was a pipe dream when he left school. But the fact remains that skilled trades tend to pay better than many of the jobs college women typically end up in since they’re still less likely than men to go into technical fields or to rise to the top of business management. In other words electricians, plumbers and even truckers and merchant seamen tend to make more money than grade school teachers or social workers. On the other hand I am confused by people who cannot see that college is more fun than work, at least in lower echelon jobs.
I’m a teacher and there’s a massive shortage of teachers now. There are a lot of problems in teaching right now. I make good money for a first year teacher. College worked for me but it’s not for everyone. I’m a huge proponent of bringing back classes like wood shop, metal shop,auto shop, etc. to teach people the basics of a trade should they decide to go into a trade. A business degree is much more useful if you know a trade.
@@MCKevin289 There was a surplus of teachers when I taught. In order to be employed I had to work for reduced pay at both Catholic parochial and Job Corps GED. Then after spending a year in a Benedictine Abbey I decided to become a barber. I had already taken eight years off from teaching to ship out with the merchant marine. College now costs way too much money so it’s more difficult to settle for what teachers typically get paid. I had no college debt and my tuition was only $750 per year during the mid ‘70s at a state university. To save money on room & board we’d stuff a 2 bedroom apartment with 4 people. But then there would always be one guy who didn’t fit in and would leave. We didn’t eat very well either living on crap like hamburger helper and frozen pizza.
I think the word average is interesting here, the truth is no one individual is average. Average is what happens when you look at all people as a collective and try to find common features, but when you look at the individual you might find none of those traits. So I would say, be careful when we define ourselves as "average" you might be more extraordinary than you think, when you compare yourself as an individual to the average traits of humanity. You could also spend your whole life and never meet an "average" person in reality, other than a mosaic of people that you've known and who's various traits you've pieced together in your mind.
“Military is a social safety net for immigrants”. Is there some data to back up this claim? Are immigrants more likely to serve in the army than multigenerational Americans who are equally poor?
The way I see it, college is a complete and total waste of time and money. Most people go and have no idea what they plan to do once they get out, myself included. things have only gotten worse in the last 40 years or so. I graduated from college in 1988, and looking back on it, if I had it all to do again, I would have dropped out then and learned to drive a truck. I honestly can't think of any concrete advantages I got from going to and completing College. I went to a New York State School that was a complete factory and had no personal attention given to the students whatsoever. So it was pretty useless in terms of getting close to power as you stated in your video. At least I didn't take on humungous amounts of debt as students today do and then need the federal government to bail them out because they cannot possibly get jobs that pay them enough to live on and also enough to pay their gargantuan loans back. As far as dating goes, you're absolutely right. People go out with people they like and it really doesn't have a whole lot to do with what kind of papers are hanging on their walls. I liked how you jumped around in settings in this video instead of just sitting in your room. I also thought it was pretty funny how a Bud Light Truck drove behind you. As far as masters degrees are concerned, without exception, the stupidest people I have met in my life are the first people to brag about their masters degrees. I never really understood the point of a masters degree anyhow. Is it like saying I'm too dumb to get a PhD, but I didn't want to stop school at a Bachelors degree?
My philosophy is that if someone has to tell me they have a degree to be impressed, I probably shouldn't be. I should be able to tell without them telling me.
If you dropped out now to learn to drive a truck you wouldn't have a job very long as autonomous vehicles will take those jobs soon. But then again AI will replace a lot of desk jobs that require a bachelors. Generally women don't date guys they view as beneath them. Only 20% of women are willing to date men who make less or have less education. 1/3 of women and 2/3 of men are single. This suggests there is a non significant population of women who are sharing partners whether they know it or not. Most women would prefer to be single or share the few men they find attractive or somewhere in between than date men lower in socioeconomic status. A spike in single unmarried people which we are witnessing now will have serious negative long term consequences for society and the economy.
In Chemistry the Masters degree gives you higher paying positions (at least here in Germany). You can become a lab manager with a masters but not with a bachelor. If you only want to complete the Bachelors you could have just went to trade school and become a lab tech.
@@Mulmgott For most degrees sticking around for a masters is mostly a scam. There is opportunity cost between working and gaining technical experience and climbing the employment ladder for 2-3 years vs spending those years paying for more school. Maybe the math works out in some cases where a masters is absolutely necessary to jump positions or there's a massive pay discrepancy or you're able to position yourself into better paying positions by leveraging your academic network but many times this isn't the case. Since more people than ever are college educated schools are trying to sell masters degrees as a replacement symbol for the significance a bachelors used to have so they can milk even more tuition out of their paycow students. (an extra ~$100k) In the states college is stupid expensive (30k/semester) because the government hands out loans like candy. Because everyone has access to these loans colleges are able to charge more and so the government hands out bigger loans so the colleges raise the price so the government hands out more loans so the colleges raise the price.... When the state uses violence (taxation, laws, regulations are all compelled by threat of force) to interfere in the economy all it does is distort price signals. As a result citizens suffer.
And never forget half of all college instructors get stuck in the temporary part time adjunct ghetto in total dead end jobs. If I could jump into a time machine and redo everything I’d just enlist in either the navy or the coast guard as a culinary specialist and do that for 20 years then become a chief cook in the merchant marine then retire to buy a hunting & fishing lodge up in the Northwoods of Canada somewhere like Lake Temagami, Ontario. Teaching school was the absolute pits. Ended up quitting to be a deckhand in the merchant marine then finally became a barber for 20 years.
Why not create special universities for men that is more hands on? Like a mixture of trade school and university but with less core and more dealing with actually doing?
A college degree hasn't guaranteed a good job since like 1973. But historically it has been where the children and grandchildren of the self-made wealthy families went to stay in the middle class as the family wealth created by grandpa is depleted. The offspring go to college to become lawyers, doctors, judges. The industrial revolution came out of the workshops of England when the status universities were technophobic. Sure when the wealthy inventors showed up to fund chairs to study the science behind their inventions, the universities came around to the money rapidly.
As I woman who has multiple degrees in the sciences, I appreciate that you did mention how higher education, especially for the degree/certificate/licensed professions have been highly restrictive of women (medical, legal, engineering, maths, etc.). Because of this, there are generations worth of pressure on women not only to pursue higher education, but to do so in the careers with the highest social accolades. I was hoping you would touch on how at the heart of the gender binary with education, for this generation, higher education is still very much a luxury and a privilege for women while for men it exists as an option that was alway available to them if they had the money to pay for it.
This is in fact false. Tell me why the scholarship percentages are 90% women/POC in both of the high educational institutions in my state I can tell you why though, It is because there is exactly 2 scholarships disadvantaged men can apply for in the entire state,, which by the way is also given to women and people of colour so to be a man in my state without enough money won’t matter about your marks As it is essentially a lottery if you get even 1 of the 2 scholarships (which would also only cover a year at best) While the women and poc (I didnt even count after a while, but there were over 15 scholarships available to women and poc) have ample opportunities (comparatively) So I can understand your plight but also understand our plight times have been changing and as of right now some young white men are having a very hard time getting higher education and this is reflected in admissions/enrolment data
You need to think about how college is set up, it isn’t set up for men to prosper but women, men are more kinesthic than women due to our posterior parietal lobe development, it’s hard for us to sit still, that’s why most class clowns were men and why trade work,science,engineering, technology is male dominanted. Women are more auditory and they are able to sit and concentrate more; perfect for college. School isn’t catered to men especially now with the constant male bashing and the feminist movement.
Bit late to the party but you hit the nail on the head with school not catering to men. It used to but, over time, has increasingly been altered to benefit women. An example would be that the authorities discovered that girls are better at coursework while boys are better when it comes to tests. Therefore it was quite easy to push for more and more emphasis to be placed on coursework. On top of this you have a constant pressure put on male dominated subjects to be made 'more inclusive' while, at the same time, studiously ignoring the fact that there are female dominated subjects which are, somehow, absolutely fine.
Your rooftop reminds me of the Hunter College roof and that's where my entire world of "education is good" shattered. I was prevented from graduating based on $$$ for all the classes that I know supposedly had to take to graduate..even if I had 100+ credits, they decided that they'd make me take remedial classes, which is 3 full time years of "retard math" when I had my math req completed..this was only the tip. Not 1 person encouraged me to fight dirty. Still haunts me to this day. Like the F for academic dishonesty they were obligated to remove etc etc. I spent more time visiting diff dept heads than going to class..nobody understands or believes what I'm telling them about these beaurocratic schemes and extortion..seems like my only allys in this mess is a blue haired SJW
Two-thirds of professors teaching at Oxford University have no degree whatsoever. The same could probably be said for MIT. I doubt that there would be any college graduates heading a Fortune 500 company either!
oh well, you're pretty much completely wrong about the CEO thing. Basically every Fortune 500 CEO graduated college (except Mark Zuckerberg and a handful of others who founded a business which took off before they finished college, so they dropped out. There is a really good video by How money works called "If You Want To Be a CEO Become An Engineer First - How Money Works" about that. Can recommend watching
Choosing not to finish locks you out of society's most powerful professions ( law, engineering, medicine, finance, etc). Women will take those roles and that will create some very strange power dynamics in society. This has very far reaching societal implications that I don't think our leaders have thought of. The whole college system needs to be revamped and eliminating most forms of government financial aid would do it. A sane system would subsidize medical and technical education over the softer subjects.
The dating scene is but a knock off effect of men not graduating. It's been empirically proven women prefer to date above themselves in the socio-economic hierarchy, they settle for horizontal and very few date beneath. A degree is both a social signal and gives access to economic opportunity. Now that young women outnumber men 2:1 in degrees it's likely many of them will prefer to share casual relationships with the few qualified men or stay single or somewhere in between over dating someone they perceive as inferior. A spike in single unmarried people which we are witnessing now will have serious negative long term consequences for society. Your first argument is "Men are more open and risk taking therefore they'll risk starting a degree-less career." To me this feels but a small factor in comparison to the 2nd. The price isn't worth the returns. I posit women more so than men are able to offload that price to their parents or female only initiatives like scholarships and grants and the payout of social status is subjectively more valuable.
College used to be reasonably priced but once the government got involved with student loans, these investment funds with an education front knew they could keep raising their prices. Just like what happened to medicine when the medicare program allowed hospitals and doctors to keep raising the fee. Get the government out of the picture and let the market decide what the value is.
the humanities is mostly marxist and a waste of a degree in some ways. with so much equity if you get a tech degree you gotta wonder if despite all your hard work gotta wonder if HR would just strive to renormalize wages anyway. men still have to take the risk in going obsolete moreand that doesn't get taken into account in the wage debates.
I think women don't care about the specifics. They like the yes or no, I was talking height with a girl in one of my school clubs. I asked how tall she was because she was quite short and she said 5'3", then she's like you look really tall but when I told her my actual height she didn't really care. She just identified me as tall. I think this applies to degrees in the fact that if you have one it improves your status, but they don't actually care about the status of it. If I asked my mom what degree my dad got in college she probably couldn't even tell me. Maybe, that he studied spanish but probably couldn't tell me his minor which was psychology. Idk maybe i'm wrong and haven't asked many women to put this sort of thing to the test.
have you ever did online college 99% of it is just reading books and looking up youtube videos just having a general interest in something and doing research is basically all college is you can litterally get everything you need from the library and a computer you dont even need teachers@@fayelis
.. the issue s for men .. in careers approaching the wall ....is they don't like the prospect of working all their life ... the novelty fades .. stress single (hypergamy). no chance of a divorce lol
college is a sieve mechanism, a holding pool for young folks ... and a means of uni's making a great deal of money... keep girls going and men run away..
Young men: If you want to go to college, go for STEM. Very few women
The "unique Talent" you mentioned for all those successful people you mentioned is called wealthy parents with connections 😂
maybe not all.. Don't think Robert Heinlein had a wealthy background, his father was an accountant.
@@gsvenddal728 ofc not all, but studies at least in germany have shown that the vast majority of wealthy heople become so threw inheritance and not because they are some sort of genious or have any special skill
Trade school is the smarter route as you make more money as a plumber, electrician, or mechanic.
The problem is not everyone has the aptitude for that. Some men just do not have that intelligence. I have a friend who had a low Iq unfortunately. He can only do as much s wash dishes and has speech issues.
@@thamastersmooth Sounds like me.
Trade isn't for everybody and not everybody can do those jobs.
I've never understood why people who are highly credentialed want other people who are highly credentialed.. it's just romantacized in media just sounds kind of depressing in real life. Having a 60 hour a week job as surgeon just to come home to meet with your wife who is lawyer who works 60 hours is dumb. One person in the household should be able to provide everything if they have a good job, much less a masters degree upper class type job. Imagine having a family with that person, who takes cares of the kids? The nanny, the school, the state? I grew up in a very affluent area, that everyone aspires to live in, and all the kids who had poor family relations because daddy and mommy worked 24/7.. all had serious developmental issues
Yeah I feel for those people. LOL could be worse could be paying $800 a month to live in a cracked den
Amen, brudda, you be preachin' now.
2 years in and in debt. I’m trying to purse UA-cam as I want to inspire young girls in my country. I feel such a disappointment to my parents. But I couldn’t take it anymore. I tried and I still failed. I will keep trying to pursue my UA-cam and your video just motivated me. Thank you ☺️
I do have to disagree with you at one point about the dating market. With the way our politics have been realigning around education lines such as college degree being the defining demarcation among white people, It clearly matters for something especially as Americans are less likely or willing to date and/or marry across a political aisle. This seems to be clearly a representation of a cultural divide which seems to increasingly dominate our politics
Your point about women being more risk-averse is spot on and has data to back it up. The question is, why are men generally viewing other avenues as better bets compared to a college education every passing year? What are the key drivers? Was it a gradual degradation of confidence, or were there turning points on the timeline?
I think there is no doubt that a college education is fundamentally a worse product now than it was in past decades. However, it may be the case that college was generally overrated in the past and the imbalance we see between the sexes in enrollment today is just a natural reflection of our varied risk tolerance. If the data leans more toward the latter hypothesis, then what institutions are most culpable for lying to generations of kids? In my middle and high school, college was not presented neutrally as one avenue forward in life, but as an essential milestone for anyone who hoped to live a meaningful life or amount to anything. As one teacher put it, "You will get a degree or you better get used to the phrase: "Would you like fries with that?"
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As for your other points, I found them to be off-base. Too much of the video revolves around your vague hunches when there are countless data that might refute them.
When I was in elementary school 60 years ago, out of thirty children the two smartest kids in class were boys. The next ten smartest were mostly girls. Back then, only 10% of high school graduates went to college. So in that class, the top 10% would have been two boys and a girl.
Today, if you want 40% of children to go to college, it would be those two boys and ten girls. Well, maybe there would have been a boy or two somewhere in the next ten, but you get the point.
After decades of left run teachers unions imo men are finding less common ground with thier college surroundings. They spent the last decade being told they are either victims or oppressors and I can't see why anyone would invest in the low quality US education has become. Over the decades the US slipped out of the top 30 in math and science so it's not even a competitive degree vs the developed world.
I think you have overstated the case that men aren’t going to college because colleges tell them they are oppressors. The economics of an individual’s choice to go to college matters more than the fact that some men may feel somewhat alienated when colleges discuss sexism.
@@MrBrendan882did you only read half of my comment? I specifically say the cost and reward isn't worth the investment.
@@CIRCLEOFTONEthen go to a stare school
I wish you spent some time addressing why men are dropping out more often now. Psychologically risk taking is increasing? Or men don't see the social benefits of proximity now? Doesn't explain why it is becoming more and more prevalent
If I had to guess the institutions have been declining in quality and affordability and there's so much social pressure to attend that men try it, experience all of the flaws and decide it isn't worth the price
Yo loved the way you filmed it outside in your suit. So much style.
Because after talking to “that kid” I can confidently say… so the extent of your research was talking to “that kid”… how and why I’m I still subscribed to this guy.
I am a woman, I currently have a boyfriend, but my thoughts regarding the degree were different while I was using dating apps. The degree wasn't about uniqueness or an attractive personality, it was mainly an indicator for a decent job. It's actually the opposite. Since I went to law school, a masters gave me the indication that we went through a similar life experience, indicating compatibility. I didn't go in with any hard criteria, for me it was important that he likes his job or has an interesting reasoning for doing it and the job has to be decent (legal/moral and enough income to afford our lifestyle, no not rich, but my vision of a future, being able to afford kids etc.)
good luck with that, chat-gpt will take over.
@@sweJEverywhere I severely doubt that chat gpt will replace lawyer's in this decade or the next
Thats crazy but nobody fucking asked
@@abdimalikelmi729cope lol
@@sweJEverywheregroypers STAY seething lol
Dude just casually neglects that the families of those uber wealthy dropouts were already uber rich, many of which also have connections to colonialism and slavery.
Shhhhh they are all geniuses with superior genetics to the common man. They are truly the epitome of human species
Neat production concept,Alec. It kept me watching even though I didn't think I was interested. It turns out, I stayed long enough to realize I was. 😉
This feels so off-base, like a disjointed mess of half-baked thoughts you stewed up in isolation. Might've been more worth the effort to simply ask men why they dropped out and allow their answers to paint a more accurate picture
There are women who are in college to seek an MRS degree. Colleges are 2/3 women, now. Heh heh. Supply and demand. Chad is in heaven. You have to remember that non tech degrees somehow mean anything, any more. A BS in STEM is worth 5x a PhD in social sciences. If I was in college now- I'm male- I would ignore females. The risk of dealing with women in college is sky high, and climbing, for men. A woman's peak year for finding the best mate is 23 or so. A man's peak years for finding the best mate is when he has money- and more coming- say about 30-37. A woman of 35 is already in geriatric pregnancy range. A man of 35 is at a good age to get kids. Which is why, traditionally, men were about 10 years older than their wives, say to about the 1930's. Remember that scene in The Godfather, where Michael asks his niece's boyfriend about his channels of income? That was very real.
2:47, what a thoughtful driver. I'd consider that courteous lol.
College has become too expensive. Then also it is perfectly understandable that many men find it dull or even pointless. Education is also quite effete in many respects and even effeminate which puts it squarely in the female wheelhouse, as it were. Then also when you’re young you’re more likely to have lots of unfounded optimism which perhaps will not be crushed by circumstance for some time. And historically many men who dropped out of college ended up in the military. Although I get the impression that younger women focus heavily on looks in the dating sphere I also believe that as they age they tend to become more snobbish than men. And there’s your point that geniuses don’t really need to go to college, at least if they’re artistic geniuses, inventors, or entrepreneurs. But even college dropout Bill Gates tells everyone to finish college. When he quit college he was already established in the computer business, for one thing, so it’s not as if his interest in computing was a pipe dream when he left school. But the fact remains that skilled trades tend to pay better than many of the jobs college women typically end up in since they’re still less likely than men to go into technical fields or to rise to the top of business management. In other words electricians, plumbers and even truckers and merchant seamen tend to make more money than grade school teachers or social workers. On the other hand I am confused by people who cannot see that college is more fun than work, at least in lower echelon jobs.
I’m a teacher and there’s a massive shortage of teachers now. There are a lot of problems in teaching right now. I make good money for a first year teacher. College worked for me but it’s not for everyone. I’m a huge proponent of bringing back classes like wood shop, metal shop,auto shop, etc. to teach people the basics of a trade should they decide to go into a trade. A business degree is much more useful if you know a trade.
@@MCKevin289 There was a surplus of teachers when I taught. In order to be employed I had to work for reduced pay at both Catholic parochial and Job Corps GED. Then after spending a year in a Benedictine Abbey I decided to become a barber. I had already taken eight years off from teaching to ship out with the merchant marine. College now costs way too much money so it’s more difficult to settle for what teachers typically get paid. I had no college debt and my tuition was only $750 per year during the mid ‘70s at a state university. To save money on room & board we’d stuff a 2 bedroom apartment with 4 people. But then there would always be one guy who didn’t fit in and would leave. We didn’t eat very well either living on crap like hamburger helper and frozen pizza.
I think the word average is interesting here, the truth is no one individual is average. Average is what happens when you look at all people as a collective and try to find common features, but when you look at the individual you might find none of those traits. So I would say, be careful when we define ourselves as "average" you might be more extraordinary than you think, when you compare yourself as an individual to the average traits of humanity. You could also spend your whole life and never meet an "average" person in reality, other than a mosaic of people that you've known and who's various traits you've pieced together in your mind.
Imagine going to surgery with someone that never studied sh*t
I found out a close friend of mine died when he went. And I realized for my career I don't need college.
Hard to flee something you can't get into
“Military is a social safety net for immigrants”. Is there some data to back up this claim? Are immigrants more likely to serve in the army than multigenerational Americans who are equally poor?
I think the idea behind his statement is that most poor people are immigrants. Whether or not that's true is up for debate.
as a white straight male why would i pay huge money to be excluded from scholar hips and job opportunities?
Good insight
The way I see it, college is a complete and total waste of time and money. Most people go and have no idea what they plan to do once they get out, myself included. things have only gotten worse in the last 40 years or so. I graduated from college in 1988, and looking back on it, if I had it all to do again, I would have dropped out then and learned to drive a truck. I honestly can't think of any concrete advantages I got from going to and completing College. I went to a New York State School that was a complete factory and had no personal attention given to the students whatsoever. So it was pretty useless in terms of getting close to power as you stated in your video. At least I didn't take on humungous amounts of debt as students today do and then need the federal government to bail them out because they cannot possibly get jobs that pay them enough to live on and also enough to pay their gargantuan loans back. As far as dating goes, you're absolutely right. People go out with people they like and it really doesn't have a whole lot to do with what kind of papers are hanging on their walls.
I liked how you jumped around in settings in this video instead of just sitting in your room. I also thought it was pretty funny how a Bud Light Truck drove behind you.
As far as masters degrees are concerned, without exception, the stupidest people I have met in my life are the first people to brag about their masters degrees. I never really understood the point of a masters degree anyhow. Is it like saying I'm too dumb to get a PhD, but I didn't want to stop school at a Bachelors degree?
My philosophy is that if someone has to tell me they have a degree to be impressed, I probably shouldn't be. I should be able to tell without them telling me.
If you dropped out now to learn to drive a truck you wouldn't have a job very long as autonomous vehicles will take those jobs soon. But then again AI will replace a lot of desk jobs that require a bachelors.
Generally women don't date guys they view as beneath them. Only 20% of women are willing to date men who make less or have less education. 1/3 of women and 2/3 of men are single. This suggests there is a non significant population of women who are sharing partners whether they know it or not. Most women would prefer to be single or share the few men they find attractive or somewhere in between than date men lower in socioeconomic status. A spike in single unmarried people which we are witnessing now will have serious negative long term consequences for society and the economy.
In Chemistry the Masters degree gives you higher paying positions (at least here in Germany). You can become a lab manager with a masters but not with a bachelor. If you only want to complete the Bachelors you could have just went to trade school and become a lab tech.
@@Mulmgott For most degrees sticking around for a masters is mostly a scam. There is opportunity cost between working and gaining technical experience and climbing the employment ladder for 2-3 years vs spending those years paying for more school. Maybe the math works out in some cases where a masters is absolutely necessary to jump positions or there's a massive pay discrepancy or you're able to position yourself into better paying positions by leveraging your academic network but many times this isn't the case. Since more people than ever are college educated schools are trying to sell masters degrees as a replacement symbol for the significance a bachelors used to have so they can milk even more tuition out of their paycow students. (an extra ~$100k)
In the states college is stupid expensive (30k/semester) because the government hands out loans like candy. Because everyone has access to these loans colleges are able to charge more and so the government hands out bigger loans so the colleges raise the price so the government hands out more loans so the colleges raise the price.... When the state uses violence (taxation, laws, regulations are all compelled by threat of force) to interfere in the economy all it does is distort price signals. As a result citizens suffer.
And never forget half of all college instructors get stuck in the temporary part time adjunct ghetto in total dead end jobs. If I could jump into a time machine and redo everything I’d just enlist in either the navy or the coast guard as a culinary specialist and do that for 20 years then become a chief cook in the merchant marine then retire to buy a hunting & fishing lodge up in the Northwoods of Canada somewhere like Lake Temagami, Ontario. Teaching school was the absolute pits. Ended up quitting to be a deckhand in the merchant marine then finally became a barber for 20 years.
Why not create special universities for men that is more hands on? Like a mixture of trade school and university but with less core and more dealing with actually doing?
By doing I mean actually implementing what is taught.
A college degree hasn't guaranteed a good job since like 1973. But historically it has been where the children and grandchildren of the self-made wealthy families went to stay in the middle class as the family wealth created by grandpa is depleted. The offspring go to college to become lawyers, doctors, judges.
The industrial revolution came out of the workshops of England when the status universities were technophobic. Sure when the wealthy inventors showed up to fund chairs to study the science behind their inventions, the universities came around to the money rapidly.
As I woman who has multiple degrees in the sciences, I appreciate that you did mention how higher education, especially for the degree/certificate/licensed professions have been highly restrictive of women (medical, legal, engineering, maths, etc.). Because of this, there are generations worth of pressure on women not only to pursue higher education, but to do so in the careers with the highest social accolades. I was hoping you would touch on how at the heart of the gender binary with education, for this generation, higher education is still very much a luxury and a privilege for women while for men it exists as an option that was alway available to them if they had the money to pay for it.
This is in fact false. Tell me why the scholarship percentages are 90% women/POC in both of the high educational institutions in my state
I can tell you why though,
It is because there is exactly 2 scholarships disadvantaged men can apply for in the entire state,, which by the way is also given to women and people of colour so to be a man in my state without enough money won’t matter about your marks
As it is essentially a lottery if you get even 1 of the 2 scholarships (which would also only cover a year at best)
While the women and poc (I didnt even count after a while, but there were over 15 scholarships available to women and poc) have ample opportunities (comparatively)
So I can understand your plight but also understand our plight times have been changing and as of right now some young
white men are having a very hard time getting higher education and this is reflected in admissions/enrolment data
NIce cuts, Man, the city looks deserted.
You need to think about how college is set up, it isn’t set up for men to prosper but women, men are more kinesthic than women due to our posterior parietal lobe development, it’s hard for us to sit still, that’s why most class clowns were men and why trade work,science,engineering, technology is male dominanted. Women are more auditory and they are able to sit and concentrate more; perfect for college.
School isn’t catered to men especially now with the constant male bashing and the feminist movement.
Bit late to the party but you hit the nail on the head with school not catering to men. It used to but, over time, has increasingly been altered to benefit women. An example would be that the authorities discovered that girls are better at coursework while boys are better when it comes to tests. Therefore it was quite easy to push for more and more emphasis to be placed on coursework.
On top of this you have a constant pressure put on male dominated subjects to be made 'more inclusive' while, at the same time, studiously ignoring the fact that there are female dominated subjects which are, somehow, absolutely fine.
Dude there is a reason you can’t break 10k views after years on UA-cam.
Your rooftop reminds me of the Hunter College roof and that's where my entire world of "education is good" shattered.
I was prevented from graduating based on $$$ for all the classes that I know supposedly had to take to graduate..even if I had 100+ credits, they decided that they'd make me take remedial classes, which is 3 full time years of "retard math" when I had my math req completed..this was only the tip. Not 1 person encouraged me to fight dirty. Still haunts me to this day. Like the F for academic dishonesty they were obligated to remove etc etc. I spent more time visiting diff dept heads than going to class..nobody understands or believes what I'm telling them about these beaurocratic schemes and extortion..seems like my only allys in this mess is a blue haired SJW
Hunter college isn't that expensive
@@nomanejane5766 the point is that I was a few credits away (12 credits aka 3 classes) yet they wanted to milk me for 3 more years
Good job
Poor people gonna teach me how to be a slave, just like themselves.
Two-thirds of professors teaching at Oxford University have no degree whatsoever. The same could probably be said for MIT.
I doubt that there would be any college graduates heading a Fortune 500 company either!
oh well, you're pretty much completely wrong about the CEO thing. Basically every Fortune 500 CEO graduated college (except Mark Zuckerberg and a handful of others who founded a business which took off before they finished college, so they dropped out.
There is a really good video by How money works called "If You Want To Be a CEO Become An Engineer First - How Money Works" about that. Can recommend watching
@@leoe.5046 Thanks for the pointer, heading there now 🙂
Already an engineer, so that's convenient LOL.
@@ChemEDanno problem. I'm studying engineering rn
But I'm not from the US - and idk how many of the Fortune 500 CEOs are german🫠
Men early adopt crypto but also q anon. I honestly doesn't get the point in that comparison. Is that something bad?😂
Choosing not to finish locks you out of society's most powerful professions ( law, engineering, medicine, finance, etc). Women will take those roles and that will create some very strange power dynamics in society. This has very far reaching societal implications that I don't think our leaders have thought of. The whole college system needs to be revamped and eliminating most forms of government financial aid would do it. A sane system would subsidize medical and technical education over the softer subjects.
All subsidies create perverse economic incentives. Your proposal would concentrate the problem in the medical/technical field.
Finance and Engineering are male dominated jobs
The dating scene is but a knock off effect of men not graduating. It's been empirically proven women prefer to date above themselves in the socio-economic hierarchy, they settle for horizontal and very few date beneath. A degree is both a social signal and gives access to economic opportunity. Now that young women outnumber men 2:1 in degrees it's likely many of them will prefer to share casual relationships with the few qualified men or stay single or somewhere in between over dating someone they perceive as inferior. A spike in single unmarried people which we are witnessing now will have serious negative long term consequences for society.
Your first argument is "Men are more open and risk taking therefore they'll risk starting a degree-less career." To me this feels but a small factor in comparison to the 2nd. The price isn't worth the returns. I posit women more so than men are able to offload that price to their parents or female only initiatives like scholarships and grants and the payout of social status is subjectively more valuable.
Hypergamy floats that is its first and only reality
College used to be reasonably priced but once the government got involved with student loans, these investment funds with an education front knew they could keep raising their prices. Just like what happened to medicine when the medicare program allowed hospitals and doctors to keep raising the fee. Get the government out of the picture and let the market decide what the value is.
the humanities is mostly marxist and a waste of a degree in some ways. with so much equity if you get a tech degree you gotta wonder if despite all your hard work gotta wonder if HR would just strive to renormalize wages anyway. men still have to take the risk in going obsolete moreand that doesn't get taken into account in the wage debates.
>humanities is mostly Marxist
Source
Make videos of UAPs
5:05 nearly all the people you listed were born into wealthy families, not just inherent talent
Shhhhh they are all geniuses with superior genetics to the common man. They are truly the epitome of human species
So why are men leaving College again?
Much of this doesn’t match my observable reality.
6:24 I have seen more oportunities like that in Discord Servers, I'm not joking
note the concentration on the WOMENSdating market.... there are more issues for the economy than dating...
Trade school is the way to go, or medical route through college.
Men just realized college funded movies about college life are all a lie. Thanks, internet, I guess.
I think women don't care about the specifics. They like the yes or no, I was talking height with a girl in one of my school clubs. I asked how tall she was because she was quite short and she said 5'3", then she's like you look really tall but when I told her my actual height she didn't really care. She just identified me as tall. I think this applies to degrees in the fact that if you have one it improves your status, but they don't actually care about the status of it. If I asked my mom what degree my dad got in college she probably couldn't even tell me. Maybe, that he studied spanish but probably couldn't tell me his minor which was psychology. Idk maybe i'm wrong and haven't asked many women to put this sort of thing to the test.
Screw going to college! Trade school is to go
because just getting a job is like 10 times better then going to college and this is coming from a guy with a college degree
What jobs are you going to get without a degree?
have you ever did online college 99% of it is just reading books and looking up youtube videos just having a general interest in something and doing research is basically all college is you can litterally get everything you need from the library and a computer you dont even need teachers@@fayelis
That's a very elaborate way to flex your body count bro 😂
.. the issue s for men .. in careers approaching the wall ....is they don't like the prospect of working all their life ... the novelty fades .. stress single (hypergamy). no chance of a divorce lol
college is a sieve mechanism, a holding pool for young folks ... and a means of uni's making a great deal of money... keep girls going and men run away..
They are waking up. They don't want to be brainwashed into thinking they are women. 😃
no! college is fun. between childhood and adulthood . you missed the point . and you learn
college for women is so they can find a partner.
Woah spoilers!