The Hidden History of Manchester's River Medlock IV
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- In this video we are following Manchester's River Medlock through Holt Town the Location of Manchester's first Mill Colony similar to Quarry Bank Mill in Cheshire. We look at other oddities such as some steps that featured in Shelagh Delaney's film A Taste of Honey. I refer to the Smiths the band and the photographs of Shirley Baker. Plus old photographs of Manchester and around the Ancoats Holt Town area. This is a documantary about the history of Manchester around The ever difficult to follow River Medlock.
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"3,4,5, episodes....." 10 and counting. ALL have been excellent. Re watching all of them to adequately orient myself as to where this is as I'm watching from another continent. Great viewing for the 2nd go around.
Martin, this is amazing. It's real archaeology. If you hadn't done this research and found the photos and maps you could be on a different planet now. I get the same feeling when I look at an old roman or iron age fort and wonder how the landscape has changed - it's so important that you have taken the time to bridge the last 300 years so we can see how massively things have altered but also how they were. Staggered by this and I'm not from Manchester.
The over lay editing is spot on
I can't believe there are only 3k subscribers to this channel, everyone in Manchester should be made to subscribe when they sign the electoral register, brilliant channel!
Hi Jason 😆Thanks very much 😆👍
Really interesting and well made,should be put on the telly for more to see.
Thanks John 👍
this is my worry that he Will Be ! On some USA Pay Channel . Don't encourage him.
Tele is garbage, that’s why we’re watching Martin on UA-cam 😏
looking at that wall old and new I was thinking every one of those bricks was laid by hand one at a time. I wondered about the men who laid them day after day.
Yeah its incredible isnt it. Imagine being there on the days it was built watching and listening to the conversations
@@MartinZero I guess we would be disapointed as the talking would be about girls i guess... no different from today's worker talks.
Brilliant videos. You are so passionate, dedicated and resourceful in what you do and your research. Keep it up.
Thanks very Much Ian. I must admit this area did fascinate me 👍
parts of this video remind me of how my great grandfather and i used to go on walks. one day he stopped near a pile of bricks and said, "there used to be a shirt factory here, and down there" he said pointing down the road, "there was a furniture factory, I used to work there when I was your age, I used to load tables and chairs and couches into boxcars on the railroad down there" he said pointing down the hill towards the river at its base. There's no shirt factory there, no furniture factory, not even the railroad is still there. Your videos remind me of those walks, you remind me of my great grandfather. He passed away not two years ago. thank you for making these videos.
Great video Martin, just started watching your medlock series from the beginning as I've been watching them all over the show till now. I felt almost as excited as you when you found the foundations of those old houses! Going to have to try and find that film now 'A Taste of Honey'. Thank you
The penny has finally dropped.
I was born in the early 60's and i remember watching that film,maybe at the time being a kid i probably thought it was made in London but now i know it wasn't,your absolutely right though,what a great film.
Over the years so many of the old pubs have gone,it's a sad sight to see those places boarded up especially the one's that served good beer and had some real characters in as well.
Great video.
Up to number 4 and have got to say Brilliant. To be able to pass on the excitement you feel is a gift! Off to see Number 5 now !!!
Thank you!
Cheers Clive hope you enjoy
Amazing the way you put your videos together Martin.
Your enthusiasm is contageous and your never boring.
Your a very good Cinematographer,very interesting always .
So glad i subscribed.
Thank you very much. Thank you for subscribing very pleased you like 👍
Hi Martin …me and my brothers went to the school at the top of the steps in the late 60sand early 70s and the steps were known as the Devil steps so needlessly to say we were all scared to go down them also our headmaster would also tell us stories about young kids going missing once they did go down the steps never to be seen again ……..fear tactics…to keep us safe….I still live in this area and regularly walk these old paths and streets with my wife…who is also from this area…..thanks for bringing the history of this area to life….
Another great video! Thank you for taking us back in time!
So enjoyed this! Your enthusiasm for history is great to watch :)
Martin, your enthusiasm is amazing. Another great video.
Thanks very much Lee. I do get a bit giddy sometimes 😀
Great film...a taste of honey...we are around the same age, Martin....amazing images
Cracking channel. So much detailed information. Can't stop watching. Cheers
Loving the history your finding and all the research you've put in, thanks.
What I notice about all these old pictures in all your videos is the drastic difference in vegetation. Zero trees or bushes in the old images. But now, the city has spread out, but nature has also spread in
Yes you are right Jamie thats the thing I notice as well so much more vegetation
Hi Martin, amazing work! Became a tradition for me to watch this series every year, here I am again.
I better finish then, and thank you
Love your enthusiasm!
Fantastic episode, I love the old photos and the comparisons. Thanks Martin.
Yet again, fantastic video. I’m intrigued by this river and how much has changed.
Absolutely brilliant mate, loved it
Thanks very much Pal 👌
Thanks again for peeling back all the layers .
Just downloaded and watched A taste of honey. I enjoyed every second of it, what a great movie.
Yeah its great isnt it
Words cannot describe, but once again BRILLIANT
Thank you so much
You do a bloody good job Martin - this Medlock series should be on 'free-to-air TV'" Mate.
Ha thanks very much Martin
Yer on Like Made in Manchester Or Made in Leeds Tv, On made in Leeds They Do A Program Called "The Streets Of Leeds" Were They Point Out Points Of Interest Round The Leeds Street And Surrounding Areas
Marvelous!
Unexpected history of Holt. A place I'd never heard of before.
Wonderful old photos. I'd love to have seen that exhibition. I'm obsessed with that era too.
Your piece about just remembering that time when you were little hit home, as I'm the same age as you.
I'm a film fab too and that is a brilliant spot and use of that film. Amazing. I'll have to rewatch after watching your videos.
Think your videos are great, enjoy the mix of history and exploration , very well made and I love visiting Manchester myself . Regards russ
You are a star ! Keep it up, love your history knowledge xx
What a tosser
This is easily the best UA-cam channel I’ve ever stumbled across!
Thank you very much
I really get a buzz looking at where old buildings and roads were, seeing these kind of buildings on the other side of the world, I still get the same buzz.
Great channel Martin, love your work!
Yeah me to, and thank you very much 👍
I love watching this periodically both for my love of Manchester and the film intrigues me. I have not had the opportunity to enjoy it in full,a situation I must remedy.
Thanks Andrew
Mate, absolutely love the videos. I also love how you said it’d probably take 4-5 videos to cover your walking of the Medlock - a bit of an understatement on hindsight!
Thanks John yeah slight underestimating. More like 11 😀
I love your videos and particularly your enthusiasm!
Thank you Ruth 😀
Its fantastic that you discover these places, finding just a glimpse of what was once there, were such hard times for those that lived then, were so lucky in comparison, but I cant help feeling a sadness for the little that's been left for us to see, of traces of those that went before us , these places you discover Martin are so important, thank you for sharing, please keep on doing what your doing mate, you're doing a excellent job of it👍🙂
Thanks very much Colin and yes I agree
That was brilliant detective work finding those brick foundations.
Rita Tushingham - the eyes have it... Brilliant video Martin, well hooked together.
Thanks very much Bob
Brilliant video as always Martin love the going back in time 👌👌👌
Hi Brian, yeah I was chuffed at finding that map 👍
Fantastic. Wandered round Holt Town last year making the journey to Ashton. Stumbled across your "Mordor", and the ground around it. Definitely whete homeless people have or are sleeping there still. A real shame. Great videos Martin.
Hi Martin, I also was born in the late 60's - 1968 to be exact lol, the 70's really were the best years as us kids could play in the woods unsupervised and we could walk to and from school on our own without having to worry about muggers, kidnappers etc. How different are kids lifestyles now, they can't really go to the woods on their own, doors are locked at night and they are surrounded by all this technology now too. Thanks for sharing, I really loved this video. x
Thanks very much Sue glad you enjoyed 😀
Brilliant. Now got to get a map out,cos we lived there once,need to refresh memories. Nearest pub The Stag.
I don't know if I said thank you to you in my previous comments, but thank you very much! I feel the same fascination as you when you found those brick wall-remains and the old photographs you dug in your researches are insanely amazing. I wasn't born in Manchester, not even in the sixties, but I feel it my home very much, and already learnt a lot about it, but these videos are exactly that information which adds a lot to it. Thanks once more!
Thanks Daniel glad you like the videos
@@MartinZero And you always answers so quickly :)
Your production values just get better and better and the insights you provide are invaluable. Your enthusiasm has infected me to the point where I've started to explore parts of my old stamping grounds in the Stretford and Urmston areas and was tramping the footpaths fringing Stretford Meadows yesterday: the midges send their regards. No videos, though, as I have neither the equipment nor the skill to use it. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Thanks Andrew very much appreciated. Nice ive inspired you. If there is anything I should video out there give me a shout 👍
Fabulous episode Martin, had to watch it twice to absorb all of it. Well done
fabulous
Brilliant video Martin and really fitting music. Excited for the next instalment 💙
Hi John thanks very much 👌
Awesome movie tie-in! That is soooo cool!
Truly brilliant video. You really bring it to life. Look forward to seeing the rest of the series.
Love the video.lots of good memories growing up around that area
Just brilliant, love your filming and description, very easy to follow. Think when you get to our age (50+) you start to appreciate the area you were brought up in, I'm from Huddersfield way which in its self is quite a young town but like Manchester thrived in the industrial revolution. Keep up the great work, you should be on telly.
Thanks very much Robert. I enjoyed doing this one
Its so good to see films like this made by local history enthusiasts. Well done Martin.
Thanks very Much Peter. Glad you liked 👍
The editing on the taste of honey segment is quite brilliant. Well done! Nice lyric from Reel Around the Fountain in that clip too - I never realised where that came from. Still, bought A Taste of Honey now and watched it. Classic. Cheers!
Thanks yes its a great film
Just found this channel today. Although I live in Indiana in the US, I've always loved any kind of history. You bring it to life, as all good historians do. Your enthusiasm is wonderful!
Thanks very much Christy. Glad you found my channel 👍
Another great teaser of how our urban history still touches our lives. Keep them coming Martin! Top one.
Cheers Ryan 👍
You are an outstanding presenter...you'd be an excellent school teacher and it's brilliant how you bring it all together with the maps and pictures of days gone by. I am always amazed by the skill of English bricklayers and masons...their work is everywhere and instantly recognizable as English brickwork, even to a Canadian who wishes he lived there! Thanks Martin, it's great of you to do this work and extremely interesting.
Thanks James much appreciated. Glad your enjoying the videos.
Thanks Martin, I had 21 great years in Manchester, I now live in Rural South West, I love your videos reminding me of those times, thank you....
Thank you very much Simon. I bet where you are is beautiful though
I'm just wading (pardon the pun) my way through this series of informative and well researched films. The historical maps and photographs you unearth and your obvious passion for the subject matter makes for essenstial viewing. I've given up on watching normal television now as I find people such as yourself on here clearly doing it for the love of the subject matter.
Thank you John much appreciated. 👍
Brilliant episode, especially loved the Taste of Honey clip, I also love that film as that was my first glimpse of Manchester and the North,I lived in London then. Look forward to the next one, take care....
Thank you Simon. Its quite a film in many ways. Hope your settled in Manchester 👌
Brilliant and very interesting
Great video Martin, you make it most interesting to watch. Keep it up.
Thank you Tin Tin
I love your passion.
Outstanding videos. :)
Very nice vid, especially like old pics like those
Your enthusiasm for the subject shines through Martin. All well researched and very interesting stuff. Brilliant!
Thanks very much Brian. I just really like it when something unexpected pops into the story 👍
Superb.
I used to work in a scrap yard on Holt Town in the 80s, opposite the Mitchell arms, there was another one almost facing ours called dons spares, and they took over a street that was next to it as it was unadopted they said, the one i worked in is a hand car wash now, after watching this i'm going to have a trip down Holt Town and see what became of Dons.
Great great work and an absolute pleasure to watch.
Thank you very much Stephen. Good luck finding the old yard 👍
Great great great video martin 💯👍
Hi Kyle, thanks very much mate 😃
Epic video, brilliant
Thanks Seana, very grateful 😃
wow. the opening visuals of whats gone before was very well put together/mixed and gave a very professional feel to what you were doing. same could be said for the movie scenes locations. utter brilliance. cant wait until you get to the irwell as from there on you have the opportunity to look at salford docks and into the ship canal and thats a subject i just love. many thanks!
Hi Nik thanks a lot. Glad you noticed that. I did try to open it up in a new way. Have you seen A taste of honey, apparently some nice Dock scenes in the film. I think
Oh my goodness I FREAKIN LOVE this channel!!! I would have been just as excited to see those foundations too!!! I have fond memories of Manchester (Bolton mainly) as a child, before health and safety, of all the old railway bridges that were left with big holes in them. It was an adventure to cross them. And of all the other remnants of our past before they were either blocked off or pulled down. It's so exciting to rediscover them...gone or not. xx
Geraldine thank you so much. I think we have a shared liking for the poetry of the lost and forgotten 👌😃
For sure!!!!
I'm loving these videos, Martin. I was born and brought up on Holts Estate in Oldham (wonder if there's any connection?) near to where the Medlock starts its life. The source of the river is just above Lees village and obviously come from the water that rolls off the Pennine foothills of Saddleworth. The river is culverted a few times along its route, a big one from Lees centre which went under my old school (now gone) and came out into what we called "The Valley". From there it is joined by Thornley Brook and later by Wildmoor Leach Brook (no relation) and goes through Park Bridge (a very historical area) and Daisy Nook Country Park. After that, through Droylsden and onto where you started the videos at Phillips Park. As kids we played in the Medlock all the time and yes, I have seen trout and other large fish in there. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Eric, I just discovered part of it in Lees myself
Fantastic video.....already looking forward to the next. It is mad how we are surrounded by history and don’t even know! Keep up the amazing work.
Thanks Owen. I never know what will be in the next instalment, I just look at the route (next stage) of the Medlock and start
In all seriousness great video and research keep it up!
Thanks a lot 👍
Martin I'm enjoying your videos and learning loads off you about Manchester's past history keep it up . I watched a video about the 13 arches viaduct and Clifton junction station and Clifton tunnel it was very interesting you came upon Clifton aqueduct on Manchester boton bury canal , may I suggest a point of interest along that canal near little lever called Nob end locks it was a 3 tier lock and may be of interest for your channel
Fasinating
Keep up the good work. You can tell that you've put a lot of effort into making the series. Way better than any on the old time telly.
Hello, thank you very much. Must admit I watch very little telly these days 😀
Another excellent video Martin. Thanks very much.
Hi Mike much appreciated 👍
Great video will have to watch that film Taste of Honey
yeah it s a great film, nice shots of Manchester and Salford
Very amazing video well done mate
Martin, Great videos. I noticed something about the Holt Town Reservoir that I wanted to point out. The weir at the beginning of the video (1:40) is shown on the old map with the reservoir (11:14). It appears that the weir may have been created to raise the water and divert it north to where the reservoir was. If you look at a current satellite photo you can kindof make out were this diversion ditch begins about 50 feet upstream of the weir (GPS coords 53.485412, -2.207358).
I am loving these videos, I lived in Manchester about 20 years ago and had no idea all the amazing places I passed everyday. Keep it up!
Thanks very much appreciated 👍
Such amazing work done here, thank you.
I wonder were those timber overhanging structures at the back of the Holt town houses toilets so the waste from residents could drop directly into the Medlock? Seems a precarious place either way!
Those pockets of impenetrable woodland such as at the end of the video are so crucial. They are few and far between now due to vast clearance and development and are some of the last refuges for wild animals and plants. Most rivers have the potential to be nature corridors and revert to that when left alone. Ideally they should have wild, riparian banks all along. Hope I make sense. Guna keep watching
Thanks again
Martin,
Im blown away with these videos.ive lived in beswick all my life just off ashton new road.always wanted to know as a kid what those high brick walls were above the river.now i know.besides the row of houses, there was also a public toilet there which stayed stood there a bit longer than the houses did.so fascinating martin!
Thanks David
Sometimes the only way is waders, get in it and walk or a sit on top kayak.
I grew up there, live in America now, retired.
Fascinating videos, probably only makes sense to us mancs.
Please do more vids
Hi Gerard thank you. Yep more videos to come 👍
Another well put together Historical tour
Cheers Mark 👌
Great video Martin, one of the best you've done in my opinion. Nice bit of research discovering those old photos and the old film clip.Something I couldn't help but notice when you were leaning by the wall at the bend in the river was the silted up section ,it looks almost the same in the old photo.Keep up the good work.
Hi Mike yes it is exactly the same isnt it. Must be something to do with the flow of the River maybe ?
Brilliant vid once again. Cheers mate. I love how passionate you are with regards to the history of Manchester.
Thanks a lot. I get a bit giddy when something turns up 😆👍
Really enjoyed that Martin. Very nicely done, and well put together too. The new camera seems to be giving some good detail and the quality is very crisp. Keep it up and I look forward to the next 'un.
Thanks very much, yeah the camera is good just a faff lol 😆
Magic video. Loved the cuts of Taste of Honey with the modern view. I was 11 when that came out and lived in Broadheath. It was a bit too racy for an 11 year old to see in those days but have seen it many times since. Thanks. There's something fascinating about piles of old bricks once you know their history. I love your "jungle treks" into the lost world of brooks. Just what I did when I was a kid. Lovely to see it again. The dead prams and bikes are just the same but at least the water is cleaner now! Mind you Timperley Brook wasn't too bad as it flowed through posh areas he he...
Hello, you and me both, I have very fond memories of pottering about last summer making this video. Yes I am smitten with a taste of honey 😃
Another great little film Martin I used to drive past that every day going to work love the history you are digging up keep up the good work
Hi Brian thanks very much. Inspired by some old pics I saw 👍
Loving the videos - like no.2 - Keep up the good work - I watch your videos until the end
Thanks very much Nathan 👍
Absolutely brilliant videos. My ancestors lived on one of the roads where you found the cellars.
Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks Emma, Thats great, I loved finding the remains of those houses 😃
Wow Martin, the scenes at the stops intersected with the segment from 'A Taste of Honey', immensely powerful stuff. Not sure if it because although we were young at the time we have an emotional connection with what existed before the societal change which took place during the late 60s and 70s, and as such are able to empathise with what we as a society of lost.
Yeah those steps were a good find
Fantastic well made videos. I have just started watching. My Great- Grandparents come from Manchester & the rest of us were born in Australia. Looking forward to all your videos.
Thank you Julie
Hi Martin. Another brilliant video. You've got me hooked now. I have a connection to Manchester as I've got relations that live in and were born and bred in Denton. Anyway, you're not making too much of the discovery of the brickwork from those houses. Not at all. It's living history.
This is such a great video Martin , really good and informative but very watchable and entertaining too. Fantastic history of my favourite city .
great music in your videos..
Thanks Daniel
Great video as usual, Martin! And finding those foundations was awesome, a tangible connection to the past like that can’t be overrated, IMO.
Yeah loved finding that
Great explore mate, it’s hard to believe how much an area can change in a relatively short space of time. All those people who lived and worked there day in and day out and now there’s almost no trace of their world. Love the simultaneous maps that’s such a neat trick mate.
Thank you Nix Tac. Yes I keep discovering these places that were so so absolutely different. It blows my mind. Plus like you say an entire neighbourhood / life gone without trace 👍
Absolutely brilliant again! I’m hooked👏🏻
Thank you