@@retrospectivedave9018Is it common for the foot bed markings to be invisible on one shoe unless you get the lighting right and take a picture and for the foot bed markings on the other shoe to be visible with your eyes? The dream cell padding in both shoes is the same as on my Oxidized Green Jordan 4's and wet Cements Jordan 4's. It's just weird that I can see the foot bed markings on one shoe and the other shoe I need a camera. The foot bed markings are right for a LN3 pair. But I know I would have a difficult time selling them. The right shoe is fine but if someone asks to see the left shoe I am going to have to explain they can only see the foot bed markings with a camera. You might be able to get a glimpse of faint markings with your eyes but you have to move the shoe around and get the lighting right. It took me a half hour to get 2 pictures of the left shoe that showed the foot bed markings clear enough to pass a app check. Once I got the foot bed markings on picture they passed the authentication app check that I use just as fast as the Jordans I get from retailers. Taking pictures was tricky. You can always see a shadow of the foot bed markings of the left shoe with a camera but for the markings to be clear enough to pass a authenticity check it was a pain in the ass to get the picture right. I noticed if you check a shoe with authenticity tags on it, the app passes the shoes in under a minute. Retail Jordans and Jordans I get from resale if they don't have authenticity tags on they take between 7 and 15 minutes. If it takes any longer than that they are usually fake. Do you think they are real or did I trick the authenticity app by making sure I got the foot bed markings on picture? The app says show footbed stitching but I don't believe that. It's way harder to call out differences in stitching than it is markings. The authenticity app gives points for each feature that you show is real and if it adds up to enough points they will pass. That's why you can show a picture of the box label and if the box has a stamp underneath you don't need to show the other shoe. If a box stamp counts as points you know foot bed markings count as points. Either way I am not going to sell them. I am just worried they sold me 1 real shoe and 1 fake shoe. If they did would I be able to notice?
Bruh you don't know how much I needed this I wasn't sure if my military blues were good or not as I bought them off the jordan official website, which on Google didn't have very good reviews 😅
My pair is the SZ one and it came with the green circle sticker inside the box. I also noticed on the box label, the jordan website isnt printed on it.
same mines is sz and has the green sticker on it. and the inside doesnt have the size and the bottom of the inserts are darker. Ive seen people with the darker inserts tho.
One more thing I really got to say I appreciate your content you have earned my sub times a million of know I've told you this before keep up all the great content bro you really help a lot of people out with this stuff
I appreciate you, Rocco 👊🏽😎 I think I remember you from a previous video. You're from Arizona, right? I can't remember which video. Thank you for the support!
That one cool intro bro. I hit on shock drop and I was just a little disappointed on the leather quality at first but somehow the leather is becoming more plush feeling. Like always very informative and on point when it comes to these fakes floating around, it seems they're getting better and better and time goes by. Thanks for the vid. bro. and stay safe, take care.😎
Thanks, RZ! CongratuLAtions on your Shock Drop W! Nothing better than securing a popuLAr release a few weeks early. I wasn't expecting anything spectacuLAr with the leather quality, but it's not too bad. I do pLAn to get a lot of wear out of them, so hopefully the leather will show some character. Always appreciate the feedback, bro! Be safe out there 👊🏽😎
Yes, that's correct. The 3 letter code is what I'm referring to. It's possible the stickers were removed or never there to begin with. As for the dates, it's becoming less common for both shoes to have different dates, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen.
I just got a pair from GOAT, got two different production dates on the inside tags that was the first red flag and then there suede on both pairs is different one is super buttery and the other one seems to be more flat, the Nike air logo on the bottom outsole is also super off compared to my other 4s. Pretty sure I got some fakes, I’m requesting a return hopefully I get a real pair next time /:
I did too …the only thing that concerns me is after removing the sole there is no sizing showing however I heard not to panic that some that are made over seas won’t have it
It's possible that you have the SZ version. SZ is the factory code, and can be found in the top right corner of the sizing tag. As far as it being real or not, I can say based on the info you gave me. But, I do have a video on my channel that breaks down the difference between a real SZ pair and a fake SZ pair. Maybe that video will help you get to the bottom of your pairs authenticity
My pair is factory SZ and in the box it came with a ybm green sticker and so did Jay the sneaker guy and couple other utubers everything else checks out maybe a little strong glue smell to but I heard that’s normal
My pair is factory sz and i buy this on GOAT,wired bacause im from USA and goat send my pair from Hong kong, but i make the uv test and its glowing in the front, and the orange nike tag have the same texture on the 2 sides.
I got one pair from Nike SNKRS and it didn't have a Green YDM sticker in box. It says LN4 on size tag. I also got one pair from Stockx that came from Netherlands. This pair had a Green YDM sticker in box. The leather was a tiny bit different than SNKRS pair (small pebbling on leather and SNKRS pair leather was smooth). Also, there was a rectangular sticker on insole as well as size sticker on Stockx pair. Also, the cut on the mudguard on Stockx pair was a bit thinner than cut of grey mudguard on SNKRS pair. Also, the size Tag says SZ on Stockx pair. The weight on both shoes is the exact same and insoles are the same, too. I'm thinking the Stockx pair is the European release and SNKRS is the US release. -Mark S.
Thanks for this video RETROspectiveDAVE. I got a pair from StockX. Label says factory SZ and in the box it came with a YBM green sticker, the smell of glue is terrible. No size stickers in the insole but quality and colors and box info vs. shoel label looks legit. One thing another fake vs. real said was that under blacklight the stitching on the front toe box should not glow, but mine does. Also the blue midsole above the air bubble is smooth, one video said this should have brush strokes visible. What do you think??
My pleasure! Unfortunately, I don't have any knowledge of an SZ pair for this shoe. I know there was an SZ pair for the Reimagined 4, but I'm not sure about the Military Blues. I just uploaded an updated video addressing the YCM sticker, and I've come to the conclusion that there shouldn't be one. The stitching on the front of my pairs do not glow under bLAck light. As for the paint on the mid sole, my pairs have visible brush strokes. If you're unsatisfied with the pair you got from StockX, try contacting them to see if you're able to return your pair and exchange it for a better pair.
I got mine from goat, also SZ region glue smell was so strong, had the stickers the lot. Looked really legit stitching on point although no size stamp under insole, and green sticker, my toe stitching on the toe lit up under black light one of the reasons i returned them fortunately i had a friend who won from SNKRS, his toe box looked slightly darker and the fibres on the toe box looked longer (had more texture) also the blue on the outsole underneath the texture and grain seemed more prominent. If they were reps they were bang on but I didn’t wanna pay that price for copies so sent them back. Hoping the next pair are from different region. Nike need to get a grasp on this really.
I got my SZ pair from GOAT and it sounds like the same as you got. Apparently the green sticker came on all SZ boxes and SZ pairs glow in the toe box while other factories don't. 🤷🏻♂ The glue smell on mine is crazy strong too. But the thing that I find really weird is no size indicated under the stitching on the woven footbed under the insole of the right shoe. I feel like I got sold fakes but they're so close to the LN3 pair I got from SNKRS, who knows if it's just different factory quality control or not.
@@yoKentucky Thank you for your comment! I recently uploaded 2 videos addressing the SZ pair. And I've come to the conclusion that a majority of the fakes/replicas are using the SZ pair as a reference. One of the videos I uploaded shows the difference between the authentic SZ and a fake SZ. Feel free to check it out when you have time 😎
The 2024 pair does not come with a metal chain, only the pLAstic. The 2012 pair comes with a metal chain, but the tag has a jumpman on it, not Nike Air.
@@retrospectivedave9018mine didn't come with the Nike plastic tag? Is that an issue or do you think they could've removed it from the shoe? My shoe factory is SZ and I got these shoes from offspring uk
The pair I got my pair from eBay and it's a LN3 pair. The right shoe has visible foot bed markings with my shoe size like other Jordan 4's. The left shoes foot bed markings are invincible without a camera and to see the foot the foot bed markings on the left shoe with your human eye you have to look at them from an angle and the lighting needs to be not too bright and not too dim. Everything else on the pair is the same. I think the best way to authenticate these is if you have retail 4's with dreamcell padding to compare too. If not I wouldn't take chances buying them from the resale market
Thanks for reaching out, Adrian. Sometimes the size on the footbed might be very faint on one shoe, but noticeable on the other. Have you looked on both the left and right shoe?
@@retrospectivedave9018 it says sz but i’m scared they fake cuz when u showed the fake pair mostly the stuff matched and both shoes have different dates written on them but i bought it off goat for $281 so idk if it fake or not pls let me know 🙏🏻
@@retrospectivedave9018 it says sz but the date in both shoes are completely different and the one that you showed that was fake kinda looks like mine but i bought it off goat so im not really sure please let me know if it is or how to tell 🙏🏻
Did you watch my most recent video breaking down the difference between the real SZ and the fake SZ? If so, and you still have questions, you might have to send me a message on IG.
I just don't understand how and why they cant be consistent with all the factories producing them. Just give them all the same materials/stickers/threading and so on. For the money we pay for these its bullshit.
Yo hows it going!.just wanted to day, Got a pair from Nike philipines and they were SZ factory code, here in the UAE a friend got a pair from Nike ME and they were facotry code SZ as well.
Hello, can I ask, I also got the SZ ones, but I don't know if they are real. Do your shoes also have the front suede a little darker grey to light brown?
@@matuskusnir3140no i dont think its towards a brown colour at all. May be a bit darker shade but i honestly cant tell the difference, it looks exactly like thd one in the video
best video yet, straight to the point, quick speaking, and understandable
I appreciate the feedback, Ryan 🙏🏾
@@retrospectivedave9018Is it common for the foot bed markings to be invisible on one shoe unless you get the lighting right and take a picture and for the foot bed markings on the other shoe to be visible with your eyes? The dream cell padding in both shoes is the same as on my Oxidized Green Jordan 4's and wet Cements Jordan 4's. It's just weird that I can see the foot bed markings on one shoe and the other shoe I need a camera. The foot bed markings are right for a LN3 pair. But I know I would have a difficult time selling them. The right shoe is fine but if someone asks to see the left shoe I am going to have to explain they can only see the foot bed markings with a camera. You might be able to get a glimpse of faint markings with your eyes but you have to move the shoe around and get the lighting right. It took me a half hour to get 2 pictures of the left shoe that showed the foot bed markings clear enough to pass a app check. Once I got the foot bed markings on picture they passed the authentication app check that I use just as fast as the Jordans I get from retailers. Taking pictures was tricky. You can always see a shadow of the foot bed markings of the left shoe with a camera but for the markings to be clear enough to pass a authenticity check it was a pain in the ass to get the picture right. I noticed if you check a shoe with authenticity tags on it, the app passes the shoes in under a minute. Retail Jordans and Jordans I get from resale if they don't have authenticity tags on they take between 7 and 15 minutes. If it takes any longer than that they are usually fake. Do you think they are real or did I trick the authenticity app by making sure I got the foot bed markings on picture? The app says show footbed stitching but I don't believe that. It's way harder to call out differences in stitching than it is markings. The authenticity app gives points for each feature that you show is real and if it adds up to enough points they will pass. That's why you can show a picture of the box label and if the box has a stamp underneath you don't need to show the other shoe. If a box stamp counts as points you know foot bed markings count as points. Either way I am not going to sell them. I am just worried they sold me 1 real shoe and 1 fake shoe. If they did would I be able to notice?
Great video bro , quick question the bred 4 remainged
Has a bigger box than then the miltary 4s? Or is it the same ?
Thanks for the feedback, Jay! The boxes are the same size 😎
Bruh you don't know how much I needed this I wasn't sure if my military blues were good or not as I bought them off the jordan official website, which on Google didn't have very good reviews 😅
I'm gLAd it helped, Thomas! And I appreciate you 👊🏾😎
My pair is the SZ one and it came with the green circle sticker inside the box. I also noticed on the box label, the jordan website isnt printed on it.
Mine says sz and has the ydm sticker too….. not sure if that alone means theyre fake or not… someone help
Got the same sticker but mine does have Jordan logo on shoe box label mine are from sz region
Lol same in my box 📦 what that means?
@@vincestenning7711 mine has the jordan jumpan logo on the box. It's the website isn't listed.
same mines is sz and has the green sticker on it. and the inside doesnt have the size and the bottom of the inserts are darker. Ive seen people with the darker inserts tho.
One more thing I really got to say I appreciate your content you have earned my sub times a million of know I've told you this before keep up all the great content bro you really help a lot of people out with this stuff
I appreciate you, Rocco 👊🏽😎
I think I remember you from a previous video. You're from Arizona, right? I can't remember which video. Thank you for the support!
Yup Arizona
That one cool intro bro. I hit on shock drop and I was just a little disappointed on the leather quality at first but somehow the leather is becoming more plush feeling. Like always very informative and on point when it comes to these fakes floating around, it seems they're getting better and better and time goes by. Thanks for the vid. bro. and stay safe, take care.😎
Thanks, RZ!
CongratuLAtions on your Shock Drop W! Nothing better than securing a popuLAr release a few weeks early. I wasn't expecting anything spectacuLAr with the leather quality, but it's not too bad. I do pLAn to get a lot of wear out of them, so hopefully the leather will show some character.
Always appreciate the feedback, bro! Be safe out there 👊🏽😎
Love the information! Looking out for the sneaker community!! 🔥🔥🔥 fire content!!
I appreciate you, Don 👊🏽😎
I bought em from stockx everything seems to check it but it doesnt have that size sticker on the insole does that matter?
The stickers could've been removed. What's the factory code on your pair? You can find it in the top right on the sizing tag.
@@retrospectivedave9018 you talking about the 3 letter code? they both LNM but i just realized the shoes have 2 different manufacturing dates
Yes, that's correct. The 3 letter code is what I'm referring to.
It's possible the stickers were removed or never there to begin with. As for the dates, it's becoming less common for both shoes to have different dates, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen.
I just got a pair from GOAT, got two different production dates on the inside tags that was the first red flag and then there suede on both pairs is different one is super buttery and the other one seems to be more flat, the Nike air logo on the bottom outsole is also super off compared to my other 4s. Pretty sure I got some fakes, I’m requesting a return hopefully I get a real pair next time /:
I'm sorry to read that you weren't satisfied with your order. Keep me posted on how your return goes. I hope you get an authentic pair next time 👊🏽😎
I bought an early pair off goat…. They seem slightly different than the ones I got during the shock drop
What differences do you see?
I did too …the only thing that concerns me is after removing the sole there is no sizing showing however I heard not to panic that some that are made over seas won’t have it
Got mine from GOAT. Everything matches except I do have the green YDM sticker inside the bottom part of box. Do I have fakes?
It's possible that you have the SZ version. SZ is the factory code, and can be found in the top right corner of the sizing tag.
As far as it being real or not, I can say based on the info you gave me. But, I do have a video on my channel that breaks down the difference between a real SZ pair and a fake SZ pair. Maybe that video will help you get to the bottom of your pairs authenticity
@@retrospectivedave9018 yes. I have the SZ code. Is that bad? 🤷♂️🤔
@@maverickngoose95 It's not a bad thing because there is an authentic SZ that exists. It just depends on if you have the authentic SZ or not
My pair ordered from SNKRS they came from LN4 the right shoe has 10/04/23 | 12/05/23 and the left shoe has 10/04/23 | 11/29/23 🤷
Yeah, it happens. Some pairs won't have matching dates, but most pairs will.
I got a pair from stock x and it has a ydm sticker in the box. Does that mean they’re fake?
I just uploaded a video addressing this. As far as I know, none of the pairs that I've physically seen have a YCM sticker.
My pair is factory SZ and in the box it came with a ybm green sticker and so did Jay the sneaker guy and couple other utubers everything else checks out maybe a little strong glue smell to but I heard that’s normal
It's a pretty wide release, so I expect pairs to vary. I won't know more concrete information until after the date of the official release.
I also have the Same thing, but mine doesnt have the sizing in the heel. It also had an other sort of heel sticker
My pair is factory sz and i buy this on GOAT,wired bacause im from USA and goat send my pair from Hong kong, but i make the uv test and its glowing in the front, and the orange nike tag have the same texture on the 2 sides.
@@lcdo.juanpablorios7872I’m also from USA and ordered from GOAT. My pair is SZ and says it was shipped from Hong Kong.
I got one pair from Nike SNKRS and it didn't have a Green YDM sticker in box. It says LN4 on size tag. I also got one pair from Stockx that came from Netherlands. This pair had a Green YDM sticker in box. The leather was a tiny bit different than SNKRS pair (small pebbling on leather and SNKRS pair leather was smooth). Also, there was a rectangular sticker on insole as well as size sticker on Stockx pair. Also, the cut on the mudguard on Stockx pair was a bit thinner than cut of grey mudguard on SNKRS pair. Also, the size Tag says SZ on Stockx pair. The weight on both shoes is the exact same and insoles are the same, too. I'm thinking the Stockx pair is the European release and SNKRS is the US release.
-Mark S.
Thanks for this video RETROspectiveDAVE. I got a pair from StockX. Label says factory SZ and in the box it came with a YBM green sticker, the smell of glue is terrible. No size stickers in the insole but quality and colors and box info vs. shoel label looks legit. One thing another fake vs. real said was that under blacklight the stitching on the front toe box should not glow, but mine does. Also the blue midsole above the air bubble is smooth, one video said this should have brush strokes visible. What do you think??
My pleasure!
Unfortunately, I don't have any knowledge of an SZ pair for this shoe. I know there was an SZ pair for the Reimagined 4, but I'm not sure about the Military Blues.
I just uploaded an updated video addressing the YCM sticker, and I've come to the conclusion that there shouldn't be one.
The stitching on the front of my pairs do not glow under bLAck light.
As for the paint on the mid sole, my pairs have visible brush strokes.
If you're unsatisfied with the pair you got from StockX, try contacting them to see if you're able to return your pair and exchange it for a better pair.
I got mine from goat, also SZ region glue smell was so strong, had the stickers the lot. Looked really legit stitching on point although no size stamp under insole, and green sticker, my toe stitching on the toe lit up under black light one of the reasons i returned them fortunately i had a friend who won from SNKRS, his toe box looked slightly darker and the fibres on the toe box looked longer (had more texture) also the blue on the outsole underneath the texture and grain seemed more prominent. If they were reps they were bang on but I didn’t wanna pay that price for copies so sent them back. Hoping the next pair are from different region. Nike need to get a grasp on this really.
@@vincestenning7711 your pair wasn't fake, all sz factory shoes look like that
I got my SZ pair from GOAT and it sounds like the same as you got. Apparently the green sticker came on all SZ boxes and SZ pairs glow in the toe box while other factories don't. 🤷🏻♂ The glue smell on mine is crazy strong too. But the thing that I find really weird is no size indicated under the stitching on the woven footbed under the insole of the right shoe. I feel like I got sold fakes but they're so close to the LN3 pair I got from SNKRS, who knows if it's just different factory quality control or not.
@@yoKentucky Thank you for your comment! I recently uploaded 2 videos addressing the SZ pair. And I've come to the conclusion that a majority of the fakes/replicas are using the SZ pair as a reference.
One of the videos I uploaded shows the difference between the authentic SZ and a fake SZ. Feel free to check it out when you have time 😎
My pair has LNM factory code, what’s that mean something?
Doesn't mean your pair is fake. It just means it was made in another location
Hey my only difference is I don’t have my size on the heal under the insole are they fake? There from goat
I got the same from goat aswell these r from sz region.
What’s the significance of the Nike tag and how important is it
Are you talking about the orange tag?
@@retrospectivedave9018 yes, because I’ve seen some with the metal chain link and some with the plastic zip tie. Is there a big difference?
The 2024 pair does not come with a metal chain, only the pLAstic.
The 2012 pair comes with a metal chain, but the tag has a jumpman on it, not Nike Air.
@@retrospectivedave9018mine didn't come with the Nike plastic tag? Is that an issue or do you think they could've removed it from the shoe? My shoe factory is SZ and I got these shoes from offspring uk
I m in europe and got a ydm stickers inside, the shoes checks out al right tho, do you think un europe there is the stamp?
Definitely possible. What factory code do you have?
Mine is from Europe and got Sz and got the ydm stickers
Yeh mine are sz and have no size stamp under inner sole plus ydm sticker
@@vincestenning7711 You got Ydm sticker ?
I bought it from retail shop in Athens that they sell real my friends from stock x and my other friend from nike we alla have the sticker lol
What if everything checks out but it has a sticker in the box
Still trying to deep dive the YCM sticker. I just uploaded an updated video addressing this
My factory code says SZN are they fake i got it from a resell shop for £240
The pair I got my pair from eBay and it's a LN3 pair. The right shoe has visible foot bed markings with my shoe size like other Jordan 4's. The left shoes foot bed markings are invincible without a camera and to see the foot the foot bed markings on the left shoe with your human eye you have to look at them from an angle and the lighting needs to be not too bright and not too dim. Everything else on the pair is the same. I think the best way to authenticate these is if you have retail 4's with dreamcell padding to compare too. If not I wouldn't take chances buying them from the resale market
I agree, the footbed markings are visible or less visible depending on the factory code. There are some inconsistencies there for sure!
I just picked up a pair from foot locker but it doesn’t have the size on the footbed does that mean they’re fake or does that happen?
Thanks for reaching out, Adrian. Sometimes the size on the footbed might be very faint on one shoe, but noticeable on the other.
Have you looked on both the left and right shoe?
I have a YCM sticker inside the box for some reason
You probably have the SZ pair
does that mean it fake?
@@retrospectivedave9018 it says sz but i’m scared they fake cuz when u showed the fake pair mostly the stuff matched and both shoes have different dates written on them but i bought it off goat for $281 so idk if it fake or not pls let me know 🙏🏻
@@retrospectivedave9018 it says sz but the date in both shoes are completely different and the one that you showed that was fake kinda looks like mine but i bought it off goat so im not really sure please let me know if it is or how to tell 🙏🏻
Did you watch my most recent video breaking down the difference between the real SZ and the fake SZ? If so, and you still have questions, you might have to send me a message on IG.
I just don't understand how and why they cant be consistent with all the factories producing them. Just give them all the same materials/stickers/threading and so on. For the money we pay for these its bullshit.
Yo hows it going!.just wanted to day, Got a pair from Nike philipines and they were SZ factory code, here in the UAE a friend got a pair from Nike ME and they were facotry code SZ as well.
Hello, can I ask, I also got the SZ ones, but I don't know if they are real. Do your shoes also have the front suede a little darker grey to light brown?
@@matuskusnir3140no i dont think its towards a brown colour at all. May be a bit darker shade but i honestly cant tell the difference, it looks exactly like thd one in the video
My pair is arriving tomorrow hope they are real 🙏
Let me know 👊🏽😎
@@retrospectivedave9018 I got mine off goat and the only thing they didn’t have is the sticker on the cushion. Should I be concerned?
Mine says SZ
It's probably a Euro pair. I'm working on getting a pair, so that I can do a video for it.
@@retrospectivedave9018it also doesn’t have the size on the footbed
Same sz and mine has the ydm sticker and no size stamp on insoles too
@@anthonycharles8920 European pair
my grade school pair says IW2
Yeah, I think most of the grade school sizes were made in Indonesia
Mine says ln4
I figured LN4 would be in the mix. Usually if LN3 is one, then the other LN's are involved as well.
Nice video ❤
I appreciate the love! Thank you 🙏🏽
@@retrospectivedave9018
Your welcome, we should support you for this good quality content!
Enjoy your day .
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