Buffalo Bill Cody had an 1866 Trapdoor and he named it "Lucretia Borgia" after the Italian femme fatal. He earned his nickname of "Buffalo Bill" because he was under contract and he killed an estimated 3,000 bison with that 1866 Trapdoor.
yes i am planning on doing a video on just that and how that rifle probably belongs in the fort larned museum becouse more than likely thats where he got it
I have wanted a Springfield Trapdoor and have had a chance to buy one that hung in the VMI corridor. But the ammo is so hard to find. I am not one to collect wall hangers. It would have to be a very special gun for me to purchase, if it could not be shot. But I must say, Your three band Trapdoor is really nice.
I love history, especially blackpowder guns . I would like to ask if anyone can help duelist 1954 he also makes great gun shows and he needs help he can explain it better on his show thank you
Very nice. I agree with you that the Bannerman 1866s most likely do have more history to them and as long as it has a good bore, it should be a good shooter. I have shied away from ever buying a "Cadet" model trapdoor unless it has documents to go with it because of the Bannerman specials. Bannerman cut down a lot of rifles to the 29" barrel length because he realized that the shorter rifles would fetch more money... which is still true today. Except these days they are all getting lumped together as "Cadet" rifles and fetching a premium price. Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to pay Cadet rifle price for a Bannerman cutdown.
Well presented sir. I hav a 1866 only mine is cut just in front of the last barrel band. The remaining stock looks worm eaten too. I checked around for an original stock and there are none. Ther are recreations available at outrageous prices alas. Oh well... this old girl will be a wall hanger I guess..
Agreed. My 1892 production M1873 Cadet is very beat up but it was used. The bore is still in nice shape. I have no idea what school may have had it. If Oakland High had it it is possible my dad handled it when he was in ROTC. This also applies if it was at the University of California Berkeley ROTC program. My dad graduated from high school in 1925.
As in men/people had different personalities, needs, situations, and wants. Even a NW trade gun in lakota possession may only hay 12" of barrel and little to no but stock left at all. To meet his needs
Excellent and thanks.
Most welcome
Very nice (both of them)! I agree, it's a shame to think many of them were parted out.
Thanks, great history
Glad you enjoyed it
I love it, I’m already checking Gunbroker. Because I went to Bannerman’s island a kid, I love Bannerman’s. Thanks for sharing the great history.
lol i think you will enjoy these rifles
@@Real11BangBang I have no doubt.
Now thats a perfect story,, the stuff that makes history cool AF
Shorter and more handy I like it, I'd defiantly buy one 👍
Nice history lesson.
Glad you enjoyed it
Buffalo Bill Cody had an 1866 Trapdoor and he named it "Lucretia Borgia" after the Italian femme fatal. He earned his nickname of "Buffalo Bill" because he was under contract and he killed an estimated 3,000 bison with that 1866 Trapdoor.
yes i am planning on doing a video on just that and how that rifle probably belongs in the fort larned museum becouse more than likely thats where he got it
Love it
Thankyou
Ooooooo purty
lol i thought you would like that
Very cool, I sure wouldn't pass one up.
I have wanted a Springfield Trapdoor and have had a chance to buy one that hung in the VMI corridor. But the ammo is so hard to find. I am not one to collect wall hangers. It would have to be a very special gun for me to purchase, if it could not be shot. But I must say, Your three band Trapdoor is really nice.
thankyou very much
I love history, especially blackpowder guns . I would like to ask if anyone can help duelist 1954 he also makes great gun shows and he needs help he can explain it better on his show thank you
There will be a video to follow on Mike bellevue's situation once we get off work
I kicked in a few bucks. Damn all pencil pushers and petty tyrants!
Very nice. I agree with you that the Bannerman 1866s most likely do have more history to them and as long as it has a good bore, it should be a good shooter. I have shied away from ever buying a "Cadet" model trapdoor unless it has documents to go with it because of the Bannerman specials. Bannerman cut down a lot of rifles to the 29" barrel length because he realized that the shorter rifles would fetch more money... which is still true today. Except these days they are all getting lumped together as "Cadet" rifles and fetching a premium price. Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to pay Cadet rifle price for a Bannerman cutdown.
yes but at least the 66 and 69 cadets are pretty easy to tell as the trigger gaurds are unique
Very true.
Well presented sir. I hav a 1866 only mine is cut just in front of the last barrel band. The remaining stock looks worm eaten too. I checked around for an original stock and there are none. Ther are recreations available at outrageous prices alas. Oh well... this old girl will be a wall hanger I guess..
thats to bad are you sure it is not an 1868?
@@Real11BangBang says 1866 on top of the trapdoor
@Grey Pilgrim so you just need a junker 1861 replica that you can take the stock off of it only need a little In letting
@@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods yep keepin my yes open
Agreed. My 1892 production M1873 Cadet is very beat up but it was used. The bore is still in nice shape. I have no idea what school may have had it. If Oakland High had it it is possible my dad handled it when he was in ROTC. This also applies if it was at the University of California Berkeley ROTC program. My dad graduated from high school in 1925.
yes those marks were earned training young americans to fight
Its sad that so many collectors want a gun that looks like it came out of the factory yesterday. I love guns that have character and that were used.
me too lol this one has plenty of character
As in men/people had different personalities, needs, situations, and wants. Even a NW trade gun in lakota possession may only hay 12" of barrel and little to no but stock left at all. To meet his needs
oh yeah like i said the tool needs to match the need
oh yeah like i said the tool needs to match the need
@@Real11BangBang don't have to convince me.. you heard that just in my words of Ashley's 100
Just saw one in a shop for a very reasonable price.
Now I have to go double check and see how many bands my rifle has.......
lol
But how does it compare in price to the ultra rare Colt-Smith and Remington?
lol it is way cheaper then that rarity
Taking a perfectly good functional, historical firearm and tearing it down and selling it for parts is awful.
i think so too
Agreed