Extreme Cold Canadian Military Surplus Sleep System
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- Опубліковано 31 гру 2024
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I miss my Arctic bag from my days in the Canadian Infantry. Warmer than anything,durable and just like a second home during field exercises.
An awesome system for sure, tough as nails and so warm!👊👍
I have the liner and the inner, and the hood and stuff sack. I will find the rest eventually. One important thing is to not store the sleeping bag in the stuff sack, if you want to keep that nice loft.
Hung up or lying flat will protect your investment and keep you warm. Thank you for showing this set and giving us MTL Armories link. Stay safe and stay warm, Wade
Thanks for watching and good tip, I never store my down long term in a compressed state👍😀
I have the same system going on 25-30 years now. Don’t have a mat or the outer shell, not sure if it originally had it. My inner bag has the down pockets running laterally and the outer running longitudinally, as well as more mummy shaped. Never needed more than the inner and the felt/wool liner, but then at -30c i tend not to go camping. Very nice set you have there.
Excellent to hear buddy! 💪
Those sleep hoods are hard to get but I have one. Mustang also makes sleeping pads for the military but stick with Thermarest as my Mustang fell apart but the Thermarest is still going strong. My pad had R&D!!!!! spray painted on it with white paint. I have two green MSS patrol bags and yes one will fit inside the other.
I agree those Thermarest mats are awesome, I still have a set I bought in 1990 that are still in perfect working condition! 👍
I picked up the US mss bivy bag from a Goodwill. I got it for $4.99 and it is like new condition. I use it with my various bags to keep me dry when bush crafting. When I was younger I had a military surplus mummy bag and had it for years until it was to beat up. I really like the system you have as it is very versatile. Great video Wade, cheers brother. 🍻
Wow what a deal you got!!! Thanks for the support my friend!
Excellent Video! I have done an ever increasing number of purchases from " MTL ARMORY ". They are definitely one of my GO TO FIRST sellers when buying Military Surplus. I have never been disappointed with what they have sent me. MTL ARMORY have always had fair and reasonable pricing on there items and the SHIPPING CHARGES have always been reasonable. I will most certainly continue to be a customer in the future.
Thanks for watching my friend! Say hi to Bill for me👊
Great To Know You're Getting Genuine Gear From A Great Source. Have A Swell Weekend, Happy Zzzz's Thanks For Sharing This, Wade ! ATB T God Bless
Thanks buddy, all the best to you my friend! 👍
Outstanding demo and explanation Wade. I picked up a full system from a surplus store here in Nova Scotia a few years ago. I have used the inner bag but not the whole system yet. I have been thinking about converting one or both of the bags to top-quilts. My bivy did not have the zipper so I installed one myself. That was a challenge. Thanks for sharing
It's a awesome bit of kit as you well know Mark! 👍
Wade, looks like you are getting ready for some winter camping! Beautiful colours behind you on the Maple Tree. Thanks for sharing.
I sure am, it's been a while. Thanks for watching!
Very nice winter sleep system it seems. Would love that.
I can't wait to try it out👍
Great cold weather gear. Heavy and bulky.... Yes. Worth it... Absolutely. Excellent review Wade. Thanks
Thanks Bernie👍
Been eyeing a Cdn sleep system ever since I saw Lars rave about them a few years back...glad you found a good one!
Lars considers them the best in the world. We do know a thing or two about cold weather lol. Take care Sean.
Looks like a good piece of kit 👍👍
It doesn't get cold enough over here in the UK to use the whole system, Canadian military kit looks really good, I wouldn't mind a military jacket to add to the collection.
Great as always Wade.
Thanks brother. I have the Canadian forces IECS Gore-Tex jacket that would probably work in your climate. Not a bad jacket at all and usually quite inexpensive. Take care🍻
@@Woodswalker1965 I'm going on eBay to see if there's anything around.
Very impressive looking sleeping bag system!!! Looks very lofty
Looking forward to using it!
My inner was plenty at -28 with my clothes on while cold camping…. I typically split my bags with the missus when we winter camp, I’ve actually never had to use both bags at the same time by myself.
The inner bag by itself fits perfectly into my north face backpack sleeping bag compartment without a stuff sack 👍
That's a good recommendation brother. Thanks for the input! 👌
looks like a winner -good explanation of the sleep system-thanks! !
FYI. It is not full of down. My best guess is it’s filled 60/40 down and light feathers. Down does not have quills and you can feel the quills. That said it’s a good system but I preferred the older thick airmatress as the thermarest does not insulate the bottom well in winter.
Never got cold with the air matress in minus 40 when I served.
Thanks for watching! It may not be 100% down but I believe there is a % of pure down that must be met before it can be called a down bag. It may be 70-80%, I’m not too sure, but as you said a great system!👍
I do like modular systems, and that one looks awesome. Maybe a little overkill for southern England though, but I'm sure it will keep you warm and toasty in minus 30. Thanks again Wade, and take care mate 👍🙂
Ya maybe a little toasty for England lol! Take care buddy!
thanks again Wade and thanks for the military link,take care
Thanks very much my friend! 👊
Great review Wade..! 👍 I agree modular is very wise and u can’t beat good quality surplus...Shame the kit wasn’t as good back in the day when I served 🇬🇧 but I was a kit monster then too and would just buy my own, better kit anyway 😄
As outdoors types we want kit that works well, takes abuse and will last. That 🇨🇦 system looks sweet!
I bet u are looking forward to putting it thru it’s paces in below zero conditions 🏕🌲🔥😴💤💤
That I am my friend, let it snow!!!!
Great video Wade.
Stay warm buddy.
Cheers
Thanks Paul, take care!
Great video! We can attest to this being a great kit, having put it through its paces on more than one winter camp out. It is heavy and bulky but well worth taking especially with a pulk. Cheers from la Belle Province 👍
Good to hear, I'm looking forward to using it this year. Cheers neighbor!
I've ordered x 2 of these systems from MTL on the strength of your reccomendation mate.We live in Edmonton Canada but we've also got a place in deep rural Saskatchewan and once you do that right turn at Wainwright yer heading into a whole lot of remote country eh,don't wanna get caught out in Winter
Sounds like you need serious gear my friend. Thanks for the comment, much appreciated👊
That's a sweet looking rig. Stay toasty my friend.
Thanks buddy!
Great review,I like that bivy bag mine doesn’t have the zipper,I have to admit the air mattress I’ve tried 2 that leaked ,although when they work they seem good ,I also still have the black air mattress that still works and comfortable but not in the same class for warmth as the newer mattresses. Nice buy.
Thanks brother,I appreciate you watching. Im glad you've had success with your system, I can't wait to give mine a proper workout. Cheers👍
Hey Wade!! I can see where this Modular System would be of great value here in The Rockies year- round.Also further north( Snowy Range, etc) Thanks for the info, friend!!👍♥️✌️😃
Thanksvery much for watching, I'm looking forward to using it!
Yes, It should be helpful in Permafrost conditions, definitely!!👍♥️
I have that system but as an option to the noisy hood i bought a surplus shore hood for 20 bucks check them out - also the cheek warmers on those mits are to wipe your runny nose on lolol
Cheek warmers, snot wipers, it's all good! Thanks for watching bud!
Great score!
Thanks buddy, I'm looking forward to the cold weather! 👍
Great review and thanks for the supplier info.
Your welcome thanks for watching bud👍
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Thanks buddy, I appreciate the comment👍
That really is one awesome sleep system. I have bookmarked the website, quite a bit of awesome stuff on there.
It's a dangerous place to shop brother lol!
Great looking sleep system!
Maybe even warm enough for your neck of the woods!
@@Woodswalker1965 It might be. I just ordered a hot tent. This looks like a really good affordable option.
Looking forward to those hot tent vids 👌
Hey Wade Awesome system quality gear are you gonna be trying it out this winter as always Great Channel hope all is well Earl
Hi Earl, I'm hoping to put this to good use this winter! Take care my friend!
Looks like a great system 😊
Thanks for watching my friend!
Love modular but costs to get it to UK always an issue.
Still, great video & nice demo too
Temps are dropping out there now so stay warm... something I'm sure you'll have no problem with using this diamond :)
Thanks for watching my friend!
Check out my links to Mtl Armory. I know they offer free shipping in US/Canada perhaps shipping overseas would be reasonable.
Hmm, those aren't "cheek warmers" on the mitts; they are snot wipers! 🤣🤣🤣
Great review Wade! Love this system. I’m going to look into one. Perfect for up my way Brother!
Keeping you warm on those cold Sudbury Saturday Nights! 👍
@@Woodswalker1965 Haha you’re right! Just ordered the system plus the hood. I take your recommendations very highly my friend.
Sweet, enjoy buddy! Post your adventures brother!
As you were in the mood of sharing something awesome that you found we were all hoping it was a massive pile of cash
Me too😂😂😂
Great video 👍 🇨🇦
Thanks very much!
Excellent review brother ! I use the american MSSS system but the Canadian system looks like it could be warmer
I've heard it's a bit warmer. How do you find the US system?
@@Woodswalker1965 The US system appears to pack smaller overall and is 100% synthetic. I camped at -30 with it but needed good clothing in the bag lol
I might visit this store in Montreal to look at their gear
Bills your neighbor!
really safety go to cold place😊
Thank you for watching! 👍
@@Woodswalker1965 waiting yours next videos
Awesome! I have a question though, why a cotton liner? I thought cotton was bad because it doesn’t dry well like wool or synthetics? Thanks
Good question, you’re right cotton is not a great insulater ! The cotton layer is also called a hygiene layer because it can be easily laundered. Down sleeping bags are difficult to clean so having a removable layer to clean is a big bonus.
Thanks for the question and support👍
Terrific !
Thanks!👍
Warmest and most comfortable sleep system I have ever used. Personally tested to -44C, slept great & warm. Bags are roomy, easy to change sleeping position makes a better sleep. I do not tie the flanel liner in, the tie out points have riped as I move in the bag. Fleece liner as substitute is warmer and makes moving around smooth. The most comfortable bags I have ever used and my go to in cold weather. The hood system is unique but in the end the best solution for controlling moist breath I have ever used, keeps you bag dry. Made for Canada, tested and depended upon for decades, still dependable today. Only downside is the down insulation, in wet weather you have to be careful to keep it dry. Thanks for a great review!
I’m a big fan of this system as well. Thanks for stopping by!
Canada!
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Great information as always Wade. How does that fit a fat man? I have the U.S ECW system and for a 5’10 285 lbs person the mummy system is not comfortable. How does the Canadian system work for a bigger person?
Good question, it's not a true mummy in my opinion, there is a bit more room than my other mummy bags. I'm a bigger guy myself and I'm fine in this system. If you have the opportunity to" try before you buy" it's a good thing.
Thanks for watching!
in the summer, should i take off the outer layer and keep the inner and liner?
That’s the beauty of this sleep system you can use it all year! I only use the inner portion in the summer, with or without the liner. Thanks for watching 👍
It is very rare to be cold enough south of 60 to use the inner and outer. Good and warm, but heavy.
I agree, rare to need it but nice to have👍
Hey Jeff, I own the US MSS and the Canadian sleep system and the Canadian system is significantly better!!! Being former military I understand fully why these things are built so tough!!! But for me the modern light weight construction methods are way superior for both transportation and performance. If you asked most any soldier what they would prefer - It would be the lightest solution possible that did the job 😄 The government would say the cheapest, long lasting solution is better 😔. If you don't mind the weight and bulk this is the best solution available for the 💵
Tough to beat the value here, I agree. I have lighter and more modern bags that cost me $1000 so I'm not inclined to sleep outdoors beside a fire and potentially burn holes in them lol. This kit with the bivy should be pretty much bombproof.
Regards, Wade👍
How heavy the set is? Have a plan to get one set for myself.
@@alexeimagher9083 3.9 kg / 8.5 lbs. - not light 😄
@@TheEmporiumOutdoors
Pretty light for me. Thanks. I thought it is 5lbs heavier.
Quick question, what is the fill in the putter bag ? You never did say what it is. Is it down like the inner bag or is it synthetic? If so what particular type? Thank you
Good question, all goose down my friend! 👍Thanks for watching!
Could you sleep on your stomach in this? Im debating this bag vs the american military modular sleep system. Thanks
Yes you can. I usually sleep on my side but there is enough room to stomach sleep.
Great review. It is a truly awesome system. Also, +1 on MTL Armoury. I've had very good experience with them. You should also take a look at the "Commando Quilt" by Oshawa Bushcraft.
Thanks for watching and for the tip , I appreciate your support! 👍
Nose wipe. Not cheek warmer.
Yup, that’s what usually happens lol!
What is the meseument on the sleep system I am 6’4 250 will I fit
There is a tall version, it's extremely rare though. You would be at the upper limits of fitting it. Try one first I would think. Thanks for watching!
I'm in New York can't find the measurement on the Canadian sleep system any way you can find out and let us know thanks for the video
I would contact Bill from Mtl Armory, he would have answers for you. He may have access to the tall version.
Links are in the description my friend.
What are the size of the system ? I'm 6'2 225LBS would i fit inside well ? How much did you pay for the whole system ?
I would guess that you would fit in the standard system. They did make a tall system as well.
Condition is everything when it comes to price. I’m not certain what I paid but prices vary. Thanks for watching👍
@@Woodswalker1965 Thanks for answering so fast . Very much appreciated
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Thanks for watching👍
Curious though, to prevent moisture building up inside the down bags with extended use do you have to use an overbag? Is there really any other way? If so why doesn't these systems come with an overbag? These are basically two down bags inside a goretex like bivy which like all things goretex would build up moisture inside the bag eventually. Although I hear goretex works better the colder it gets outside.
All sleeping systems need to be aired out eventually. There is a cotton liner which can be removed and dried and the bivy will prevent the outside of the bag from having moisture build up on it.
Moisture can be an issue that we need to deal with in cold weather.
Thanks for watching👍