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- So I bought a new PC. After 10 years! What did I get and why did I get this one?
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00:00 Intro
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01:34 Context of the purchase
02:46 The Case (yes, it's white) Corsair iCUE 220T
05:08 Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X DDR4
10:13 CPU 12th Gen Intel Core-i5 12600K 10 cores
16:51 CPU Cooler be Quiet! Dark Rock 4
19:02 RAM 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600MHz
20:55 SSD - Boot Disk 1Tb Samsung Pro M.2 PCIE 4.0
22:57 SSD - Data Disk 2Tb Corsair MP600 PRO XT M.2 PCIE 4.0
25:20 PSU Corsair RM750 750W 80+ Gold
28:39 Graphics Card - see video!
33:55 Monitor Display - see video!
39:10 Conclusion!
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CASE
Corsair White iCUE 220T Addressable RGB Airflow Midi PC Gaming Case £80
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NB no rear [extraction] fan included. An additional £14 ! 😟
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MOTHERBOARD
Gigabyte Intel Z690 GAMING X DDR4 PCIe 5.0 ATX Motherboard £199
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CPU
Intel, 12th generation, 10-Core, 16 thread, i5-12600K Alder Lake CPU/Processor £290 (vs i7-12700K £419)
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COOLER
be quiet Dark Rock 4 Intel/AMD Heatpipe Tower Air CPU Cooler £65
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RAM
Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 Memory Kit (£125)
Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-19-19-36, XMP 2.0, 1.35V
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SSD 1 (BOOT / OS)
Samsung 980 PRO 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 Gen4 NVMe SSD/Solid State Drive £100
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SSD 2 (DATA)
Corsair MP600 PRO XT 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe with Heatsink SSD/Solid State Drive £219 (normally £238)
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PSU
Corsair RM750 750 Watt 80+ Gold Fully Modular PSU/Power Supply £70
750W Corsair RM Series RM750 Full Modular, 80PLUS Gold, SLI/CrossFire, Single Rail, 62.5A, 140mm Fan, ATX PSU
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GRAPHICS CARD
None yet! See GitHub for my shortlist!
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MONITOR
*Twisted Nematic (or TN)* are older but fast (ideal for gamers) and when paired with a high refresh rate, but TN monitors have the worst color reproduction and narrow viewing angles (170° horizontally, 160° vertically), which causes the image to shift in colour, contrast and brightness when it’s looked at skewed angles.
*In-plane switching (or IPS)* is an [LG] LCD-based technology that is used in just about every kind of display. IPS panels have vastly superior viewing angles than TNs. This means you can view IPS panels from extreme angles and still get accurate colour reproduction.
*Vertical Alignment (or VA)* is a [Samsung] LCD technology used in gaming monitors, gaming TVs, and wide displays. VA panels are something of a compromise between TN and IPS. They offer the best contrast ratios, which is why TV manufacturers use them extensively.
Standard aspect ratios and resolution
* 16:9 (eg 1980 x 1080, more likely 3440 ×1440 or 2560 × 1080)
* 16:10 (eg 1920 x 1200) ← my current monitors
* 21:9 (eg 3440 x 1440 or UltraWide QHD+ 3840 × 1600)
* Most common monitor size is 27", but widescreen 34" and 38" are now more common.
* Super wide 48" screens are rare (and expensive)
Refresh rates (FPS)
* 60Hz for "productivity" monitors only
* 75Hz just about acceptable for occasional gaming
* 100Hz - 144Hz - 175Hz+ better for gaming (ideally with Nivdia GSync or AMD FreeSync)
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An atypical (and longer) video this week, but you did ask me! Note that there are chapters along the timeline if you want to skip to the next chapter.
Very interesting video, thank you!
14:00 I noticed that the 12700 processor has a TDP of only 65W as opposed to 125W for most of the others. That would have been a consideration for me.
Congratulations on reaching 250+ videos. A milestone on the way to many more.
Thank you very much! It had not registered that this was video 250! Quite a number, wow! Hear from you soon, I guess.
Consider multiple monitors rather than one large one. It doubles your horizontal (or vert) pixel count. I run 3 monitors -- do CAD & coding -- not a gamer. really nice to have multiple files and references open at the same time.
I have two monitors now, 2 x 24" but 1920 x 1200 (so HD+). But there is that fat bezel in the middle!
@@RalphBacon i don't mind bezel in the middle, but 1+ monitor is a must for coding, CAD etc
Thanks for the clear descriptions and breakdowns, well done!
You have a knack for clarification without unnecessary stuff.
Thanks for watching!
I hope your computer build brings you a lot of satisfaction and productivity, Ralph.
So far, so good, roman, thank you for your good wishes 👍
Thanks for the current pc hardware update
No problem! I can now sleep at nights knowing this project is done. Almost. Still go that monitor and graphics card to sort out. 😴💤
Thanks very much. Since I'm in the market for a new desktop PC at the moment, this was great.
You're welcome! I can only urge you to do lots of homework and understand the whys and wherefores so you don't regret your purchase some way down the line! And the components change monthly! Never a dull moment, hey?
Hi Ralph, Very interesting all the choices available. On your starting list you have MS Office. Did you consider (or try) Open Office or Libre Office? For most people that covers all the stuff you need, is file compatible wit the MS stuff and it's open software, so no charge. I've used it for years and had no regrets at all.
I have used Open Office many, many years ago but found incompatibilities between MS Office files and that app (because MS can change the format with each release, I suppose, although these days they are supposed to follow standardised document formats).
The thing is, I need Outlook. I've used it for 35+ years and don't want another mail program!
I also just put together a completely new desktop to replace the one I have been using for the past 11 (!) years. It's not actually true that I just replaced the machine bought 11 years ago because, in the meantime, I had replaced disk, graphics card, RAM, CPU, CPU cooler fan, case fans, PSU, ... 😁 That's what one does with desktop PCs, isn't it?
With regards to monitors, at home I have a 4K 32" IPS (not particularly fast, I'm not a gamer) alongside a 1920x1200 (16:10) 24" in portrait mode. I guess that same resolution 22" portrait would work too. Do you think such setup would suit you?
At work (electronic engineer) I have been working with dual 24" for years but I recently went for a 3440x1440 21:9 curved 34" because it provides a decent real estate without having the bezels right in the middle of the field of view. The single base/stand saves a bit of desk space too.
What I look for in the monitors I use is the integrated (and powered) USB hub with at least 4 ports. That's a feature I find really valuable.
Even in the latest case I bought, I made sure to have a 5.25" drive bay where I fitted a USB front panel/hub giving a purpose to the USB 3 header on the MB. I can't be bothered to reach for the back of the case when I just want a free port to plug an USB drive or a phone.
Interesting set up you have there, very nice. I think a single screen is what I am looking for because I want to spread my windows around a bit (perhaps using the Windows 11 Fancy Zones which I am experimenting with) without a big bezel blocking my view!
Integrated hub is less important although I could use one for the mouse and keyboard.
It is good to see that your videos will finally be an acceptable quality. [Ok, that was the devil typing] Thanks for a very interesting video, Ralph.
I'm afraid the quality will be as mediocre as ever, Michael! 😢😿😭
Thanks Ralph for a most timely video. I am about to replace my main workhorse machine, which I bought new in 2006!
There's an element of "Trigger's Broom" here, as it has been updated over the years, but the original parts are the motherboard (ASUS P5LD2-SE ) and CPU (Intel Dual Core D940).
Windows 10 forced a graphics board update (which has been fine), the PSU has been replaced, along with the original HDD (firstly with a Crucial SSD which was my biggest mistake! - I will never buy from Crucial again ...), and it of course is not Windows 11 compatible, so I have decided to retire it. I also feel that the time is now right to abandon the 32-bit OS in favour of 64-bit. Even my latest Raspberry Pis now run a 64-bit OS!
Thanks to your video, I now have a pretty good idea of what I would like to replace it with - in fact I will be stretching my budget slightly now, as I appreciate your evaluation of the "sweet spot" for Intel CPUs. I had already decided that i7 was probably over the top, but I think I can now mate CPU/Motherboard/System RAM appropriately for my present and future requirements, thanks to your cleverly crafted video.
I'm sure there's a museum you can donate your relic to! But I'm happy that my video has triggered some thoughts for you, as to what's what!
Nice video. It was good to hear the details around your choices. Back in March, I did my first build in 30 years (Intel 486DX), and ya... things have changed :)
Intel 486DX is a fine chip. Sorry, _was_ a fine chip. I had one. But I think one core of my 12th gen chip is probably about 100x as powerful now 😉
@@RalphBacon Well I can go a bit farther back. The first uP I worked with was an Intel 8008A. The A designated the speedier 1.25 us version. Yep. The full 800 kHz.
Very interesting and hits the nail on the head for me Ralph. Currently running a tired macbook and considering a high spec desktop replacement for filming & photography post work, CAD / 3d print prepping (ditto zero gaming) together with a rather steep micro electronics learning platform (as you know 😉😄) .. Thank you ... 🇬🇧
By "steep" you probably mean "almost vertical" in places. Yes, I know. But a decent, but not too expensive, PC will definitely make your tired MacBook seem positively comatose. 😉
Last time I used a desktop was probably 20 years ago, but still, I like your videos so much I watched it in full ;-)
Wow, thanks! I hope you were not too bored! Wait till you see my SMD soldering video (you think I'm joking!).
Great. I need to build a PC to my daughterfor doing architecture work, CAD rendering and this explanation really helps
I always built my PC and my kids PC also, but these days it looks like I landing in Mars with so many different specs and so many things to choose from.
Glad it was helpful! I was quite tempted to build my own but after 20 years I figured I did not have the necessary experience to fall back on if I got a problem.
Hi Ralph, Our age group needed this video and you did the research so I don't have to ! great breakdown of your thoughts and needs...cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hang on, "our age group"? You mean the 30-40 year olds, right?
@@RalphBacon Of course young man !
@@RalphBacon I think "our age group" is those who knew how to configure a PC in the 90s 😇
Thanks, Ralph; this was the episode to get up to speed with all the new stuff related to buying a PC. However, my trusty and somewhat now 10 years old Dell laptop still serves me well for productivity tasks. I guess it will come a day when it has to go, sob... Cheers.
If you're anything like me, you will be surprised how much technology has moved on. And what benefits that means to us in terms of speed and capacity.
*_4GB_* *(32Gb) of RAM really isn't much!* ;-)
Lower case "b" is bits, upper case "B" is bytes. It is important to distinguish, especially for people newer to computer technical terms. Things get confusing for them when they see a file is 10GB in size and they have a 1000Mbps network and it takes more than 10 seconds to transfer on a LAN. Drives and RAM are in capital "B" bytes and ethernet adapters are in lower case "b" bits.
I just had to comment because the video thumbnail says _"terminology and jargon unravelled"_ but at the same time says _"32Gb"._ ;-)
(I normally watch your videos on the TV and thus can't post comments.)
Waiting for the next Arduino (type) video!
My bad! Like a lot of users, I tend to interchange "Kb" and "kB" and "Gb" and "gB" and all other permutations. Bad form. I will do better! Yes, I do have 32GB.
Thankfully, I think most viewers will have understood that, as we tend not to talk about bits except in signal transmission contexts. And then we have kibibits and mebibits or some equally confusing terminology, just to get 1,000 units instead of 1,024. Or is it vice versa? Sigh. No wonder I'm confused (and sloppy).
@@RalphBacon - I guess I just expect more from a technical person like you, Ralph! ;-)
I do of course see others getting it wrong but hopefully it will get better in the future as more people learn about computers, etc.
Like you, I grew up with binary KB, MB, etc. and can't fault anyone mixing those up with the new terms. Even Microsoft still uses them for disk sizes, etc.
Nice video I have always built my own computers since the i486DX2 and windows 3.11 HA HA!!!
I loved Windows 3.11 - I had it setup so perfectly. Then Windows 95 came along and blew it away.
@@RalphBacon Hmm was there then was Windows millenium or something I loved win 95 I still run 95pro on a couple of laptops as the bespoke car software runs better on them
I built my first computer in 1993 - 486DX40 with 4MB RAM - today my ESP32 has the same amount - time flies ;-)
When I used to have my desktop, I always built it myself - it was amazing adventure.
DOS 3.0 (if I am not mistaken) my was first OS, with the best file manager ever: Norton Commander ;-) (that I am using on my Linux machines till now - called now Midnight Commander I think).
hi Ralph, thanks for the sharing, I also planning to upgrade to Windows 11 but the TPM 2.0 requirement is causing the need to change motherboard and processor which are expensive.
That is correct. My old PC didn't have the correct TPM 2.0 module either. I wasn't going to upgrade for a while to Win11 but the need for a better PC for my video editing pre-empted my delay!
@@RalphBacon most modern motherboards can use a virtual TPM 2.0 to install win 11.
I built an open source clone of one of those iCUE LED controllers (CorsairLightingControl on an Arduino32u4 or Leonardo, which can do those addressable LEDs or even just generic WS2812/neopixel strips) because I got sick of having some lights one setting, and the others on a different controller... so I built a little box to unify it all using either the iCUE software or the OpenRGB software. I had all the stuff in a box, so didn't end up having to buy anything new for the controller, but did end up getting a couple of extra fans to fill my case (there's 6 in there now!). Still haven't finished watching, but thought it was arduino related and fit in with your vids quite well :)
6 fans? SIX? Ah, you use your PC as a toaster too? 😲 But it sounds like you built a nice project there to unify your LEDs. 👍
@Ralph S Bacon Yeah, 2 on the front, three on the bottom and one on the back. Finished watching the vid now, and everything you said was spot on as far as my experience goes. I'm still rocking the i7 4790k, DDR3 1600 32GB, couple of SATA SSDs for OS and virtual machines. I have a GTX1060 6GB. The machine has done me right, but it's basically maxed out now, and I'd like to upgrade but the graphics card shortage (components + miners) has kinda halted that, since kinda no point getting fancy new everything and still running a 1060... I plan to use my 1060 in one of the servers to give virtual machines access to a vGPU (there's a modded driver you can use to turn a consumer GPU into one of their Quattro/Enterprise GPUs, which might be a fun project!).
I'm one of those weird "casual" gamers, kinda don't care about massive refresh rates though, but I do have 4 displays so GPU definitely needed, so long as I can get 60fps out of games, I think that's good enough for me, and 4 screens (22" each) gives plenty of room for productivity stuff, video editing and writing music. I think your system is basically what I'd go for myself, except with a dedicated GPU just because I do game fairly often casually. Some good advice here though, you definitely got good info, and made it easy for the people who watch to understand :)
I think I could become a "casual gamer" as you name it, Jess, but I would need to buy a discrete graphics card to do that in any meaningful way. I don't think 10fps is really playable!
I bought a JVC 40" 4k TV (£300) and tried it out as a monitor - works great, only 60hz but that's enough for anyone but a rabid first person shooter fanatic.
Yes, 60Hz is fine for a non-gaming machine for sure. I tried my 32" HD TV just to see how the size fitted on my workbench. Size was "OK" but the pixel density was not high enough - it needed to be 4K, like yours.
I prefer multiple displays over a single large one. It gives lots of flexibility without any odd resolution requirements, etc. It is easy moving and organizing windows around, etc. I see 2 as a minimum for my personal use. 3 is better if you have room. I recommend saving your money and getting 2 or 3 identical monitors. And it has the side benefit of being able to use one of those monitors for a Raspberry Pi while you do work on the PC at the same time all on the same desk without having to bring over another monitor, etc. Just push a button to switch inputs on one of the monitors. So easy.
I currently use two identical Dell monitors and very good they are too. But the split into two physical windows is not something I like, particularly. That centre bezel is always in the way! Still thinking about what to do (if anything).
@@RalphBacon - To each their own. I just find 2 (or 3) monitors so much better for so many reasons. Sure the new wide and curved displays are cool but not for me. And not just because of the price. I like a reasonable sized edge bezel as it helps separate it from things around the monitor. My current monitors have about 17mm which I am quite happy with. And actually having a clearly defined separation between monitors (thus their windows) I think helps keep me on task without as much distraction from the others.
In any case you likely don't have to rush out and buy any new monitors. Save the money for some more Arduino stuff! ;-)
I hear you about how much the technology has changed over the years, and sometimes it seems like it gets harder to keep up as we get older. :-) I believe I got started a bit earlier than you did (there's an IMSAI 8080 behind me in the room here, though it's not plugged in). My buiild-for-pay period involved Pentium II and the occasional III.
The last machine I built went into an industrial style case that I was given, lots of ventilation and a couple of case fans in the front, nothing fancy. At that time I got into some onine discussion about the choice of what MB to put in it and the recommendation was to go with either Gigabit or Asus. I went with Asus, and haven't regretted it. That one is my server. Started out with a couple of drives, and when they went bad on me after a good long while I replaced them with one single drive that had four times the capacity of the pair. It will take me a while to fill that one up.
I use the two machines in the room here as a workstation and a server, which is also shared via the network with other machines in the household. I too don't spend any of my time (or other resources) on gaming.
Did you say that the power supply mounted in the bottom of that case? I've not seen that done, at all. Heat rises...
My first hard drive was, IIRC, 100MB. Yes, with a 'M'.
I once executed 'del *.*' on it (DOS days, inadvertently, I thought I was in a sub-folder). Goodbye most of my data. 😟
Yes, PSU is often mounted at the bottom of the case, with the PSU blowing its hot air INTO the case. Worst design ever!
@@RalphBacon My first was a 20MB. Which I still have. It's in its own enclosure and has a cable that plugs into my Osborne Executive. That box once had a linear power supply in it, until a power glitch trashed the first track or so of the drive. Thankfully I had a very good understanding of the CP/M file structure at the time, though rebuilding that track with a hex sector editor was a rather lengthy and laborious process.
I wouldn't buy a case that mounted the power supply on the bottom.
Roy, you have my greatest respect once I read "...rebuilding that track with a hex sector editor was a rather lengthy and laborious process". What skill and perseverance! Wow!
@@RalphBacon I was lucky that most of the files I was storing on that were text, rather than executable code. :-) That made the job a whole lot easier. And I don't think that I'd have either the patience or the energy to attempt that these days.
Very nice computer . I used the same case for my 2nd PC I use for PCB design/Arduino development. I only used 5 ARGB fans for it. My main PC is my gaming PC and is totally different as it has 13 fans in a massive Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO.
Both use MSI B550 AM4 motherboards, AMD Graphics (the AMD CODEC is OK) , Corsair PSU's and VETROO All-In-One coolers (which are cheap on Amazon). Both use Samsung SSD's, 32gb DDR4 ram, and have 2 monitors (4K & 1440p)
Big tip get a cheap back panel USB-C port that will connect to the header on the motherboard that is usually for the front panel USB-C port, but that case doesn't have one.
I'm trying to figure out where 13 (THIRTEEN?!?) fans would even fit even in a full sized tower, David! Must be toasty warm in there!
Thanks for the tip about the additional USB-C port, I'll check it out.
@@RalphBacon The Lian LI EVO case is bigger/wider than even a full tower. 3 exhaust on top, 3 intake on bottom , 1 exhaust at rear and 6 exhaust on push/pull setup on vertically mounted radiator at the side of case next to motherboard. I didn't fit the optional brackets for additional 3 fans on front of case. I thought 16 fans would be overkill! The system idles at ~ 25degrees C. BTW the system is pure SSD based with a total of 6TB of storage. Life is too short for wussy spec PC's
Very informative. I would have thought an i7 processor would be A LOT faster than an i5. I agree with your choice as the cost to improved performance is not there for the i7.
Certainly the Core i7 12700K is _faster_ then my Core i5 12600K by virtue of its increased core count (12 vs 10). But, as you say, cost vs performance is a winner with mine!
Great video, after using Intel from 1993 to 2013, I switched to AMD, I am living off-grid, so I need small idle consumption, I have on cheap MB, but has o lot af USBs nad supports 3 monitors /old VGA, DVI, HDMI /. Is there any video, how fast your PC is compiling code for ESP32 with a lot of libraries, e.g. 15 - 20 ?
It never occurred to me that my new PC would compile code more quickly but, boy, it sure does. With 5 libraries (max I use, sorry) it takes just 10 seconds to compile a couple of thousand lines of C++ code (including linking). That with a 'clean' beforehand. Afterwards it just takes 2 seconds as it discovers that 99% of my code has already been compiled.
Great video, you just should have GB and TB instead of Gb and Tb :D
I've got a corsair case too, mine is green VENGEANCE C70.
Good call! Mb Kb kb kbit GB tB - I get confused.
Hang on, green? Never seen one! I will search now. Found one: when you say "green" do you mean army green, olive, like this one:
pcper.com/2012/11/corsair-vengeance-c70-mid-tower-gaming-case-review/6/
@@RalphBacon Yeah, that's the one. Looks like it's called 'Military Green' on Corsair's website. So many different greens that it's confusing :)
From what I've heard most (non-gamers) users won't notice a difference in RAM speeds. Certainly not worth the price difference going from 3200 to 3600MHz (in Canada at least). I just built a new PC and the online PC build comparison site confirmed that for me. Plus you can (with your CPU and motherboard) over clock the RAM to go even faster. It might be interesting if you did a comparison yourself (video?) changing the RAM speed and timing a video rendering. In any case 32GB _should_ be good for you for many years to come. It's nice to be able to have a ton of Firefox tabs open, video editing software, Arduino IDE, etc. all open without maxing out the RAM.
I didn't _specifically_ buy (overclocked) 3600MHz memory; that's what Corsair are selling. I don't expect any performance benefit over 3200MHz (OK, specific tests will probably be able to measure it, but not me opening a Word document!)
@@RalphBacon - Ya, I bought the Corsair 3200MHz but there was a significant price jump to 3600 and everything I read and heard said not to bother. Also that 3600 is the XMP speed but you could likely run it much faster. BUT why bother when it will likely require a higher voltage and a bunch of stability testing. For long term life run it at the stock XMP speed. IMHO.
Another test (besides the video rendering test above) might be to check for a difference of Arduino IDE compile times. I don't usually care how long a video takes to render but Arduino compiling seems to have gotten slower and slower. Arrrggghh!
Arduino compile times are very quick with my new rig. One of the first things I noticed! Perhaps I should have mentioned this... 😲
Old gamers are fine with 60 HZ unless VR then 90
I think hi fps is only for competitive gaming and think about ranking.
I currently play in VR and also do some VR development and FPGA/electronics. Also interested for AI related stuff and 3D rendering.
My rig is basically overkill for gaming and meant more to development side.
i9-12900k, 64GB RAM, 1+2+2 TB NVMe + 12 TB HDD, and RTX 3090 Ti. I have 2 QNAP nas to run backups.
Gamers will undoubtedly disagree that 60Hz is "enough" for the buttery-smooth experience they crave 😲 But, frankly, I can't tell the difference between 60Hz and 100Hz, mainly because I get shot within about 0.05 seconds of starting a game so have little time to appreciate the quality anyway.
20:40 I've got 64GB ram + another 64 gb swap...and I got crashes out of memory :D I'm doing some machine learning.
Then your machine should learn not to be so greedy and use all that memory. 64Gb and another 64Gb? Why not upgrade to 128Gb? You know you want to!
Hi Ralph, I bought an HP Omen gaming laptop thinking it would be better for productivity and video editing and 3D design /cad etc. After almost two years its showing its age and getting bogged down with the amount of stuff on it so I am considering making my own desktop. I already have an MSI curved monitor which I am very happy with and would probably buy a second when making a the new computer. You did not make any mention on your preferred OS or any software install, will this be a topic for a further video as I would be interested on what you did regarding your OS installation and what software you use for video editing etc.
Regards, Geoff.
It was a foregone conclusion that I would get Windows 11, as my previous PC ran Windows 10 but was not "good enough" for Windows 11 according to MS. Ironic, then, that I could run Win11 in a VM on that old PC quite adequately!
My video editing software is Cyberlink PowerDirector 365 (but you can get a non-subscription version too if you want). Works well enough. Others have suggested alternatives, but not Adobe Premier, rather Resolve which I have not yet tried.
@@RalphBacon I use Cyberlink power director 365 also but I have others to hand as well. I use Arduino and esp32 for projects to include on model railways
Nice pc. My amd 5950x is faster but I also have a 3090ti with 24gb. Integrated graphics is kinda meh but it's alot better than it used to be. I have the same cooler with the 2 fans. I had an aio Ralph and the thermals were the same. Bequiet is top of the line. I've had corsair vengeance a few times. Ddr3 when it was new and ddr4. Man I change pcs alot haha. Good on ya Ralph, it's good to have a snappy pc. The pc boots in a blink of an eye. The 3060ti is decent actually brother. They are usually the biggest sellers. I use a 55 inch c9 120hz oled and two 34 inch166hz. Haha. I'm going to be doing some tensor flow coding over the winter and got my gpu half price. Modern games at highest fidelity settings are considered good at 60fps on a console but on pc its double hahaha
Wow, you certainly changed PCs as often as my teenaged daughter changed clothes! 😲 And a 3090ti (top of the range, even today). Quite a setup you have, Joey.
@@RalphBacon I got it for less than half price qnd the only reason I got it was because I couldn't get a jetson Xavier for a sane price
@@RalphBacon I've always had a pc since someone gave me a 386. I started on commodore 64 but I couldn't do much because I had to book it in elementary for after school. I was too poh to afford one.
I usually upgrade incrementally so it is (relatively) affordable. I got burned this time though and had to buy a new case and 1.4kw psu when I had bought a new case last year that wasn't flashy like my others. The i5 you have is the processor I recommend to people if they don't like amd and I reccomend the 5600 to all others haha
Goody i wait for rtx 3070
I'd like an nVidia RTX 3070 but, boy, they are still expensive. 😲
@@RalphBacon now you can find for about 600e ( Austria) but used cost about 400-450€, and this is not too much for this beast
Is it using 750 W when you are using it? If you step away and it goes to sleep, how many watts is it using? I like conserving power so always interested in what my PC is costing me when on and in standby mode (it adds up over the long term - I'm not poor, just tight/cheap). 750 W and add in the monitor too so it could be eating nearly 1000 W? Some very efficient air conditioners use not much more than 750 W. I'm like you, I built some years ago, but since they are forever changing, I built, left it alone for year then built again, but then I started buying laptops just below the gaming range for productivity type work and that suited me just fine. My current 16GB Dell is 4 years old and fast to me so I'm still happy with it.
I enjoyed you explaining the though process while considering you needs.
Always looking forward to your next video. Thanks for sharing.
Oh and what was total cost, you may have said it, but I missed it.
When the computer is idle, CPU is at 1%, the fans almost stop and nothing is really taking much power. Perhaps 25W total consumption? When sleeping, everything goes off, CPU, fans, lights, disks, monitors. I'd estimate a few watts of power just to keep things ticking over.
Remember that the 750W is the available power should you need it, which is rarely, not even when I am rendering a video at 100% CPU and 100% Graphics. Perhaps if I install a discrete 3070 GPU then I might need close to 750W for a few minutes each week! 😁 At least it will heat up my workshop during the winter.
@@RalphBacon Thanks Ralph.
I'm still not convinced that SSD is the way to go. There's been to much negativity about their failure! Maybe the new ones are OK??
they are a lot more reliable than the old ones were.
Unfortunately, my friend suffered an SSD failure after 4 months.
Got it replaced under warranty but had to install the OS and all apps again.
Thus we are thinking about doing a "system clone" of the C: (boot) drive to another drive of the same (or similar) size so that if it ever happened again it would be a few minutes work to swap them over in the BIOS.
I back up my data drive in triplicate but it's the boot drive that holds details (and settings) of all the apps.
That all said, M.2 SSDs are _normally_ very reliable and are becoming even more robust. Better than a spinning disk, for sure!
Using SSDs for many years in many different systems with Windows and Linux and never had any issues, only advantages. I would NEVER go back to a HDD system drive - only for data storage and backups.
newer SSD's always have less life expectancy due to NAND type used. Manufacturers always reduce possible write cycle counts in order to reduce costs. First ones (SLC, then MLC) were the good stuff.
But that is not the problem, if you keep this info in mind when you treat data stored on them appropriately.
The most annoying thing is SSD controller dying while flash chips are in perfect order or even worse when it corrupts flash contents (often filesystem metadata) due to firmware bug or silicon errata.
So modern SSD is as reliable as often you as write to it and as reputable controller manufacturer is. That's why big brand like samsung costs considerably more. Alternatively server-segment SSDs like Intel enterprise ones are a safe bet, but they are not cheaper (:
@@Mr.Leeroy - It's damn if you do, and damn if you don't.
Just wondering what editing software you use? I've been deeply impressed by Resolve and I was a professional visual effects editor for over 30 years.
I don't use Resolve and I don't use Adobe Premier (yet).
I use Cyberlink's PowerDirector 365 (annual subscription) which is pretty good for holiday, wedding and UA-cam videos! Quite a few effects, albeit some of them are a bit restricted but they are getting better every month. Worth the money.
But I am (now, with super duper PC) tempted to at least try Premier just to see what it's got that I could use.
@@RalphBacon Try Resolve - even the free version is staggeringly good and so easy to learn. Premiere is looking very long in the tooth.
@@RalphBacon There is a lot to be said for using what you know, I've learnt too may high end editing packages for them to be abandoned. If powerdirector does what you want and need keep using it.
H264 encoding was always way more power hungry heat producing work load compared to gaming. Especially if you overclock. 200-400W is realistic.
CPU utilization is simply 99.(9)%, while gaming is very inconsistent load for CPU and hardly ever reaches this level of utilization.
The opposite is only true if you are encoding with HW acceleration (NVENC / QSV / AMF).
But it is worth to know that HW encoders always produce inferior picture quality as they are optimized for speed of encoding with the aim for streaming applications and not editor video rendering.
Really? HW encoders produce worse results than software? I just let my video program do its thing and it seems to produce videos that are OK although I do tweak the format so that the file size is as small as I can get it for YT upload!
@@RalphBacon Well, if you were not worrying about output file size much, than you could have minimal impact with HW encoding, e.g. using lossless output format. But in all other cases quality is worse at the same bitrate (so same file size), thus compression is weaker, but speed is more suited for real-time encoding, like streaming requires.
You often hear that GPU rendering for editing videos is a lot quicker than using the CPU/iGPU. Might be that you change your opinion. In other good news, Ethereum, one of the biggest "GPU addict" sheitcoins, now has implemented proof-of-stake which makes having a GPU for mining (that coin) obsolete as now storage is used to proof work is done instead of expensive calculations. Also, NVIDIA is keeping their GPU prices artificially high until at least 2023-2024 despite the mining industry moving away...
I too heard/read both those stories. A pity because I would buy an nVidia 3070 if the price was better. I might be "stuck" with a 3060 at this rate! A pity BitCoin don't adopt proof-of-stake too, but doesn't seem likely.
@@RalphBacon lol, you'd be just fine with 1660 Super or even 1050Ti.
I used to game and consider 3060Ti the top end worth for money now.
Complete overkill for productivity, unless you specifically need CUDA horsepower, like for ML.
All that power and expense for playing games!!!!!!!! I find a Raspberry Pi, and any old monitor I can pick up on Freecycle, is overkill for Solitaire 🤣😅😂😃
So you play a FPS called Solitaire. I see. Shoot all the Jacks, rescue the Queens and hold the Kings for ransom. Sounds too exciting for me, I'm afraid.
To date I've not actually played a PC game on the new kit, there are too many comments on my videos to be answered. Oh, hang on...
What? I thought you did everything on an amiga 500
No, it was a Sinclair Spectrum , complete with a couple of microdrives. Yes, really. Way back in about 1982/83.
LEDs anywhere inside or outside the case ?
Just say no !
No. Well, almost no. The 3 front fans and rear fan come with LEDs built in, so I had no choice. That's it though. No LEDs on the RAM, CPU Cooler or anywhere else.
@@RalphBacon In my case there's a power on indicator and a hard drive activity light, and that's about it. :-)
Just curious, why didn't you buy apple products since they are really good for video & photo editing stuff especially after M1x?
My view on Apple is that they produce wonderful devices (desktops, laptops and phones - I even had one once). But they are so:
1) Eye-wateringly expensive
2) Locked down to the nth degree
3) Not for the DIY assembler/repairer
So it was a bit of a no-brainer. Still love the products though.
@@RalphBacon yes absolutely sir, love the hardware & software(sometimes dubious) but hate buisness strategy.
No Wi-Fi?
No, I decided not to pay extra for a feature that I will never use, given I have a CAT-7 Ethernet cable right next to the PC!
Mining money with a graphics card. The world is weird. I dig in my pockets for change.
Mining money with lots and lots of graphics cards. That's the issue!
I'm NOT a gamer either!!
I still want to try a game or two and see whether it is more enjoyable than watching re-runs of old TV films!
@@RalphBacon I prefer youtube! :-)
Pluggable power out cables introduce resistance and another FAILURE POINT.
I DON'T LIKE THEM!
Are you referring to the sockets on the PSU? What about all the devices that plug INTO those cables? Mobo, Graphics, Fans... Another failure point? I think they are probably quite reliable these days (except for the new NVidia Graphics Cards for the 40 series).
@@RalphBacon The power connector on the MB or graphics card are inevitable. And high quality components use SOLID PINS and not flimsy pins made from folded metal sheet.
@@RalphBacon The other connectors are INEVITABLE.
IMHO,don't waste time on games.
So far, I haven't as there is too much Arduino-related work going on!
Device name DESKTOP
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.40 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
this is mine I bult years ago with a GTX 1050Ti 4gb ddr4 does what I need as I do not have 4K eyes, will get a new mother board one day I love towers great for upgrades etc 🙂
From what I remember of the 2,478 videos I watched on PC components and builds, the GTX1050Ti was considered quite "top of the range" at one time.
Then again, so was a Model T Ford but I don't suppose we'd buy one of those today. 😁😲😉
@@RalphBacon Now, Now! this is a 2002 built computer be fair :-) I never said it was great😄