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This is a set I'm trying to complete, and seeing these coins has just given me more motivation to get it finished! So far, in order, I've got Augustus, Nero, Vitellius, Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian (as Caesar.)
They are indeed! The flan is rather large, the letters are quite big and tall, differently from 2nd century coins, and the style is generally very elegant and realistic
Although they are a bit more expensive than the normal issues under Vespasian, they are not incredibly rare, so you might very well be able to find one soon :)
Year of 4 emperor civil was my very first set that I stupidly tried to assemble. I also tried to get a Nero denarius. Unfortunately it was just not a realistic plan, surprisingly the first one that I bought was indeed Otho from a MA shop dealer for £525 plus almost $30 dollar in shipping which even though it was a couple years ago I thought was a great deal specially because “IMP OTHO” was clearly visible, I also got a Vespasian and a Nero from a Savoca auction, but that was it, the other 2 emperors were too expensive for me and just Otho and Vespasian were not bringing me joy so I sold the Otho for actually quite a decent profit and bought an Owl instead which I absolutely love.
Perhaps worth mentioning that the Flavian dynasty lent heavily from Augustus' coin designs, presumably as a way to build additional foundation and justification for their rule.
Indeed. The reverse on that denarius of Titus is strongly inspired on a very popular Augustus type, and its not the only type they lend from the early Julio-Claudian period. Very smart move to validate your reign.
'and most affordable to obtain of all of the 12 guys' --> proceeds to show an aureus, probably worth a couple of thousand euro haha :p Joking aside, his denarii are quite affordable indeed, especially if you allow some wear and tear. I'm still trying to complete the 12 Caesars in silver, however Caligula and Claudius denarii are just so crazy expensive. I have the other 10 though 🙂
Shame how expensive and rare these coins are. Otho in particular is ridiculously expensive. Provincials are your best bet at picking one of these emperors up at a reasonable price.
I need to get one of the emperors from the year of the four emperors lot of stuff was going on like the Jewish revolt and obviously the civil war I think my best bet is Galba
Hi Leo, I think it is in one of the Discourses of Epictetus (preserved by Arrian) that we find the story of a man who, in the early 2nd century AD, preferred a denarius of Trajan instead of one of Nero, which had greater value, because Nero was morally rejectable and Trajan was a good emperor. I remeber this because it is the only source I know giving us notice of people discriminating the value of denarii by emperor...
I have come across this passage as well when reading the University of Chicago's Classical Philology Journal. The sources I read talk about a Sestertius. The idea of someone refusing, on a moral basis, a coin without intrinsic value such as the sestertius sounds much more plausible to me than refusing a Denarius. The exageration ancient writers often rely on when trying to pass a message also makes me believe this event must have been a fabrication on Arrian or Epictetus's part.
@@ClassicalNumismatics Yes, you may be right, they often made up such things. As for the denomination, I have just checked the text and yes, it is a bronze coin, the text uses the word tetrassaron (4-asses piece), which could be translated as sestertius. But well, there are quite a lot of such references to money in the Discourses, and they usually refer to silver coin, that's why I remembered it as denarius. I remembered it incorrectly.
Essa pergunta e extremamente ampla. "Preco medio" em que estado de conservacao? Moeda imperial ou provincial? Que denominacao? Eu recomendo dar uma olhada em paginas como wildwinds, MA Shops e VCoins, ver os tipos que mais te interessa e so assim vc poderia ter uma ideia razoavel do preco. Tambem vale olhar Numisbids, na secao de leiloes terminados, e ver como estao os precos das moedas que te interessam.
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Brilliant video thanks Leo.
Much appreciated.
I will get a bit further into the year and buy some merch👍
This is a set I'm trying to complete, and seeing these coins has just given me more motivation to get it finished! So far, in order, I've got Augustus, Nero, Vitellius, Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian (as Caesar.)
Its a challenging set but very satisfying to assemble, good luck!
I have an As of Claudius with brilliant clear legends that I cleaned. I love the font on these early imperial bronzes. They are brilliant.
They are indeed! The flan is rather large, the letters are quite big and tall, differently from 2nd century coins, and the style is generally very elegant and realistic
Great video as usual! I am on the hunt for Vespasian's JVDEA CAPTA denarius in decent shape
Although they are a bit more expensive than the normal issues under Vespasian, they are not incredibly rare, so you might very well be able to find one soon :)
How can you not fall in love with that gold Domitian
Nice coins!
Year of 4 emperor civil was my very first set that I stupidly tried to assemble. I also tried to get a Nero denarius. Unfortunately it was just not a realistic plan, surprisingly the first one that I bought was indeed Otho from a MA shop dealer for £525 plus almost $30 dollar in shipping which even though it was a couple years ago I thought was a great deal specially because “IMP OTHO” was clearly visible, I also got a Vespasian and a Nero from a Savoca auction, but that was it, the other 2 emperors were too expensive for me and just Otho and Vespasian were not bringing me joy so I sold the Otho for actually quite a decent profit and bought an Owl instead which I absolutely love.
Great and well-informed video
Thanks! I hope you learned something from it :)
Perhaps worth mentioning that the Flavian dynasty lent heavily from Augustus' coin designs, presumably as a way to build additional foundation and justification for their rule.
Indeed. The reverse on that denarius of Titus is strongly inspired on a very popular Augustus type, and its not the only type they lend from the early Julio-Claudian period.
Very smart move to validate your reign.
Wonderful coins!
Another great video. 👍
Beautiful aureus
Even with some wear to them, these coins still look great
My favorite of the 12 is the 14th. :)
They dont call him OPTIMUS PRINCEPS for nothing :)
Super interesting and enjoyable video! Thank you! Regards from Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
'and most affordable to obtain of all of the 12 guys' --> proceeds to show an aureus, probably worth a couple of thousand euro haha :p
Joking aside, his denarii are quite affordable indeed, especially if you allow some wear and tear.
I'm still trying to complete the 12 Caesars in silver, however Caligula and Claudius denarii are just so crazy expensive. I have the other 10 though 🙂
I COULD just show my very affordable and reasonable denarius of him, but if there is an Aureus to be shown, why not? :P
Thanks!
Shame how expensive and rare these coins are. Otho in particular is ridiculously expensive. Provincials are your best bet at picking one of these emperors up at a reasonable price.
I need to get one of the emperors from the year of the four emperors lot of stuff was going on like the Jewish revolt and obviously the civil war I think my best bet is Galba
Galba's coin is definitely not cheap, but I really like his realistic portraits, its a nice coin to go after!
Hi Leo, I think it is in one of the Discourses of Epictetus (preserved by Arrian) that we find the story of a man who, in the early 2nd century AD, preferred a denarius of Trajan instead of one of Nero, which had greater value, because Nero was morally rejectable and Trajan was a good emperor. I remeber this because it is the only source I know giving us notice of people discriminating the value of denarii by emperor...
I have come across this passage as well when reading the University of Chicago's Classical Philology Journal.
The sources I read talk about a Sestertius. The idea of someone refusing, on a moral basis, a coin without intrinsic value such as the sestertius sounds much more plausible to me than refusing a Denarius.
The exageration ancient writers often rely on when trying to pass a message also makes me believe this event must have been a fabrication on Arrian or Epictetus's part.
@@ClassicalNumismatics Yes, you may be right, they often made up such things. As for the denomination, I have just checked the text and yes, it is a bronze coin, the text uses the word tetrassaron (4-asses piece), which could be translated as sestertius. But well, there are quite a lot of such references to money in the Discourses, and they usually refer to silver coin, that's why I remembered it as denarius. I remembered it incorrectly.
Eai amigo. Qual o preço médio das moedas de bronze da dinastia Julio-Claudiana (Por ex Tibério, Cláudio, Nero)?
Essa pergunta e extremamente ampla. "Preco medio" em que estado de conservacao? Moeda imperial ou provincial? Que denominacao? Eu recomendo dar uma olhada em paginas como wildwinds, MA Shops e VCoins, ver os tipos que mais te interessa e so assim vc poderia ter uma ideia razoavel do preco.
Tambem vale olhar Numisbids, na secao de leiloes terminados, e ver como estao os precos das moedas que te interessam.
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hello sir how are u ?