Hey Max Awesome video BTW, a little smt.. there a little annoying learning curve on the Samsung. Please open the "Samsung Settings" app "Type it in full it'll not show up if not" under Advanced features enable "Quick Settings" "That's all 🤣" it should be on the sysem tray now u can drag it out for quicker access You can install the app from MS-Store if it's not currently installed "in some rear cases it not" HDR+: You'll get even better HDR at the cost of battery life Camera: Studio mode will make your camera look a little better when activated Audio: Turn on Dolby Atmos and God those speakers Pop "it's free" and Performance: You are currently getting a worse performance on the Samsung since you are using the windows defaults u should use Samsung default All this settings are on the QuickSettings panel. Hopefully U use this in your updated videos "And show u are so people are aware since it's 2 clicks once setup"
I do not think your speedometer for web browsing is good enough, my old Lenovo laptop may not be as fast for ONE webside, but when I open multiple websides, then it keeps on going, even if it is slow, my Macbook M1 16 GB just jams and do NOTHING !
As far as I see, Qualcomm managed to create a very competitive chip. So it is now up to computer manufacturers, Microsoft and software developers to utilize this chip to the fullest.
I had high hope because this is the newest attempt at making ARM mainstream but it seems to have flopped. There is really no excuse because this is not the first time Windows is trying to push ARM architecture. Recall AI is a security issue, who wants to draw pics, another review of that drawing feature was pretty crapping on another channel. Do I need live translation when most of the international shows have caption? Am I going to talk to foreigners live often to need the translation feature? Other features like camera tricks for blur and eye tracking already exists. And if battery still not as good as macbooks it leaves very little reason to try Snapdragon X Elite in the current form since ecosystem is already not as good and I was hoping power and battery is going to be much better (WITHOUT plugged in). It also seems like diff PC manufactures have a big difference in performance and battery and diff chip speeds that isn't easy to see and making a choice harder also
@@TokyoNeko8it is still in work in progress. Wait for Qualcomm's next generation chips or wait for further software updates because there arevmany frequent updates in x elit chips with big performance boost each time
Yess absolutely!! I think all the problems now aren't because of qualcomm, all blames now going to microsoft because they really need to make windows better.
@@okman9684 But Qualcomm's next generation will be competing with M5. You have to remember that this is being compared to a last generation SoC and that M4 will be its main competitor from Apple.
This actually turned out better than i thought considering barely anything is optimized for the ARM processor. Can't wait to see it's performance when everything is optimized.
There is a strong reason why they chose not to implement OLED on their laptop product. Because of the screen burn. Laptops are completely different from phones. It has many static graphic icons on the screen like Dock which is pretty dangerous in term of screen burn.
I like that you were surprised when the machine with more processor cores won the multicore benchmark. This almost seemed set to give the Samsung the advantage.
why should it matter when you can get the Machine with more cores cheaper than the Machine with less cores. Price is huge factor at the end of the day.
More fun is when he Is also surprised when the M3 smokes the X Elite on Blender, when M3 is running full GPU accelerated and the X Elite runs under software emulation. lol.
@@MaxTechOfficialcan we see a video where you benchmark it against a fanless iPad Pro with the m4 chip, might be a good sneak peak to what we will see this coming fall season when Apple brings m4 to the laptops.
Yes, OLED is more power-consuming for sure but most of these tests would not have used 120Hz much. Not sure about comparable screen sizes though likely the battery difference is not significant.
My takeaways. It’s not always what you have, but how you use it. Overall the Macbook is on par while being fanless. If the Samsung were fanless it would cook itself. But overall I still find the Macbook better overall beyond mere numbers.
@@_uncle_bob_ Windows only winning with its compatibility, other probably suck especially with optimisation compared to MacOS (heck even Linux). i am afraid these ARM Chips will be bottlenecked by Windows and their useless AI feature
@@user-ww1xp5dv2j Microsoft is just fucking blob when it comes to Windows. those NPUs could be used better than an AI, especially one that screenshot everything you do without your consent.
These types of videos are why I’m subscribed to you guys. You can’t beat the comparisons, whether it’s smartphones, phone cameras, or computers. Going back to the very roots of Max Tech! I’d love to see you guys compare the M3 Max to one of the newer 14900hx Windows beast laptops to see how the M3 Max has held up.
Being a mbp user, great job qualcomm, finally we have a competitor otherwise i never considered 100kg laptops with 2 hr battery life to be mac’s competitor
There is no comparison here. You picked the highest SKU for the Qualcomm chip. 12P cores vs 4P and 4E cores on the Mac. The Mac was only slightly slower, accept one, in the tests it lost which makes since as it takes 3E cores to match 1P core in a mac. So the mac has less than half the P core count and still won all but 3 tests. Sorry the Mac wins hands down... Oh nail in coffin here; as mentioned you put the flagship against the entry level and the entry level came out on top. Glad you mention at the end about another round but don't use the Pro chip do the Max with 40 cores. I mean you are picking the top SKU for Qualcomm it only makes since to choose the Max 16/40 for Apple.
@@andi.k3979 If you watch movies with dark scenes the entire time, yes an OLED would consume less.. but everything else, it will consume more. Not to mention it's a dying screen. OEMs love putting OLEDs on their laptops cause they give you a reason to buy a new one in 24 months once the screen burn in occurs. OLED works on phones cause people replace them every 2 years or so. It's bad on laptops. Tandem OLED is a different story though. It's the latest OLED tech only found in the newest iPad and in the X Elite version of the XPS 13.
@@andi.k3979The XPS 13's OLED version has half the battery life of the LED version, granted it has more pixels to light up, still, half is huge and a bigger part of that is the power hungriness of OLED on non black images on screen.
Wait, so after 4 generations of Apple Silicon, we finally have a competitor, but in some tests, it won't even match the M3, let alone the M4, Pro, or Max chips. There's some more catching up to do.
This maybe is the first batch. When Apple launched M1, the Pro and the Max were announced 1 year later and the Ultra 2 years later. Although the X Elite is below the promised, it's a good start. And the agreement with Microsoft finishes this year, so another companies may enter the game of ARM SoCs for Windows, too (rumors of AMD, nVidia, Mediatek and Samsung are willing to). Jensen Huang, Nvidia CEO, already gave clues about nVidia intentions when he was with Michael Dell and asked by Bloomberg.
It's their first generation of this kind of product and CPU power of the X Elite matches the m4 (around 15k in geekbench) in multi core performance, and single core is only 7% slower (geekbench 2.8k vs 3k). The NPU is top notch and we'll see if it's actually useful and programs start using it (like davinci resolve using it for tracking or noise reduction). Yeah the GPU is kinda just alright and Apple has the lead there, I expected more too, but as said this is very good for a first Generation product. It's good for us in the End as the end consumer we profit from more competition. Apple dropped the m4 only 6 months after m3 announcement because they were scared of the X Elite and it's multicore perfomance.
but that's exactly what people don't want from arm.. Why would you buy an arm pc if you have to plug it to a power supply like x86? At that point just get x86 lol
Fair? MBP chasis is even more expensive than Air. With 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD it would be 250 dollars more than Galaxy Book Edge. Even with higher price you get smaller display in technology that happened to be inferior even with all those billions Apple put into MiniLED development.
Bro you make nice videos but they are repetitive, you can try something new like try reviewing and comparing phones Android vs iPhone, or some gadgets or some other tech, and go outside this laptop world and try all other tech things. May be if you try this and convince us viewers and entertain us in a lot different ways. All the best.
They did. They reviewed other stuff but not as much. They can see the reactions and number of views. Most people could be more interested in apple and comparisons. I for one feels that they are consistent.
Great video. Take note that switching to best performance in the settings app does not do a great job. I think switching the power profile to High performance would give you way more better performance.
there is a secret setting on windows where you can unlock a high performance setting that just removes the cap on those chips. you have to do it in command line
The real question is how does it compare to M4? The M3 is still using ARMv8 cores while the M4 and SnapX chips are ARMv9. Qualcomm has done very well with these chips but I suspect Apple is still ahead. Bang for buck though, Qualcomm probably wins!
Just wait until Strix comes out in Asus Laptops July 31st. I can't wait to see the testing with those, especially for graphics and gaming. Thanks for the great content Max Tech! 🔥👍
The Edge has a sound feature that has Dolby, You can make EQ adjustments that bring it up some for bass and treble. Its not bad not that I have adjusted it, but Apple is the standard no question for sound quality.
Battery life for the X Elite is very impressive. Not just the slightly smaller battery. But the last few test you ran were not GPU accelerated on the X Elite. MacBook running faster and more efficient with better optimized software with GPU support while the X Elite was just brute forcing it with raw CPU. Idk about blender or Lightroom. But I know if I were to compare brute force x264 vs hw accelerated h264 encoding the total power draw difference would be massive even if for just 7 minutes.
I would love to see the results of the tests on the Mac in low power mode. You guys have stated that low power mode doesn’t change results on M Macs but will probably have even more battery left in the end
The comparison videos are always interesting to watch. In the end however, it boils down to what OS you prefer. MacOS or Windows. If you use both then it’s a win/win. It’s good to see some competition in the chip market, and the other options that are out there!
Plugged in performance is much more important. Yeah.. The deal with these is being a portable laptop. Not i don't sit in a restaurant doing blender or video editing. Being outside of on flight there are tasks that could be don't like script or browsing, while having the ability to get better performance at home
I think beside the better display in real world for most people the MacBook still is better because the MacBook is for most real world tasks better(like in speedometer)and the more power isn’t worth the disadvantages in term of the chassi ,keyboard ,trackpad and also the thunderbolts ports are soo important and actually I think MacBook wins against the Samsung in terms of connectivity.Well also the m3 got a lot more grafikpower.Well and then there is windows ,which is just a problem on its own (yes windows is more flexible) and if you want something that just works and doesn’t brake at one point for any reason.The performance difference isn’t that big for a Maschine that doesn’t have fans
Personally I think the samsung beats apple in everything but Trackpad/Performance. Windows is simply a better os for the majority of workflows. I wish apple would just allow us to put windows on mac.
Quick question, how does it feel not having a num pad. Also, having to got to a second keyboard on your touch screen devices to get to the number section Apple users?
I have a doubt. These benchmarks you're running are not native ARM apps right? (except geekbench, thats native ig) And there is performance difference. If every test was in native ARM. results will vary and X Elite will be faster.
remember this is first ARM chip in the market by snapdragon that can put actual competition in the market , in the future with more optimization of their chip they can dominate
Impressive first showing all round. The X Elite did well but I’d prefer it if they removed power profile settings altogether. The Elite X doesn’t need them and its perf per watt that matters most with any portable device. They would be better targeting a balanced profile all round amd going all in on battery life when unplugged. The entire point of Arm chips is that they can hit similar perf on battery due to low power and efficiency. Surely this is a chance to get rid of obnoxious fan spin up when in use???
I think the X-Elite is great for a 1st gen arm windows laptop chip. Can't wait to see the gen 2 hopefully they will up the graphics. I think Samsung needs to fix the early models fan noise and use better speakers 🔊
if the speakers were better & windows wasn't so buggy, i'd honestly consider upgrading from my m1 macbook air. maybe in a few more years, but the snapdragon elite chips are off to an impressive start
Good to see some competition. Should hopefully make Apple pull their socks up for the M4 MacBook Pro release and make it something worth replacing my M1 MacBook Pro with.
Tbh, the chip (with same battery size calculations (equalised at 66.5Wh)) performed the same in terms of battery life (arriving both at 48%) Okay performance wise the m3 performes better But qualcomm's chip still needs optimisations, qualcomm still need to improve in it too For their first chip, it's already extremely (to me) impressive to see that on the pc market compared to the third year of apple in the pc market Although small correction The x1-84e chip have 4 p-cores and 8 e-cores, not 12 p-cores as i saw in the video
in speaker comparison, MacBook sounds distorted, if you play at same volume, Samsung sounds way better (but also do note Windows by default puts some shizzy EQ curves you might wanna disable)
Comparing fanless machine with the one with fans is never fair because of thermal throttling. However the overall review is more less right about pros and cons of both devices. Still when u want best optimized and most efficient machine u have to go with Apple which is currently KING of performance per watt and I don't think we will ever see Windows chip which can dethrone it. Apple's HW & SW integration and optimization is already legendary mimicking console like environment. On the other hand what Qualcomm or ex Apple Nuvia to be precise have achieve is extraordinary and very impressive. I was expecting much worse results so I have to give both Qualcomm and M$ credit for doing pretty good job and not repeating fails like with the previous Qualcomm Arm PC chips.
So basically what I learned from this video is that the X Elite is an extremely powerful and efficient chip that's being heavily limited by none other than Windows itself. Now we wait for someone to get Linux working on this beast so that the chip can actually stretch its legs
I’d like to see a comparison of windows via parallels vs the X Elite. Also, the major drawback of windows on arm is hardware compatibility. I don’t believe the emulation allows you to use x86 drivers. Try plugging a bunch of usb devices and see what fails. Particularly older stuff
Mac fans keep trashing Windows because they keep on supporting old stuff. If you need your computer to be compatible with a bunch of old USB devices, don't buy a Mac or a Snapdragon laptop. There's plenty of devices to choose from.
I think Samsung can do much better with the hardware, they should go all out just as they do with the s24 series devices, the screen is already the best, they can add a bigger battery, better speaker and touchpad I never thought windows laptops would ever get to this position, I’m excited about the competition, apple will also have to improve their displays now It’s crazy that the laptop can run this well without a fan. Well nice comparison
The Cinebench CPU advantage will be due to the X Elite having 3x the performance cores. The whole 8 vs 12-cores is disingenuous. Where are the power consumption stats? Also Cinebench CPU is highly scalar multi-core and Geekbench emulates normal multi-core scaling. Why not compare Blender CPU scores or run the Blender benchmark? Unsure about X Elite failure in Cinebench CPU, non-RT Macs run it fine.
Might be a weird request but can you do an updated "gaming with mac and the x elite" but with games that people would probably actually play instead of cyberpunk level games. MOBAs come to mind maybe some light fps valorant or something CSgo and such. The portability and performance is already good no question but I guess I wanna know if it can do it all haha.
Windows arm is not optimised for softwares they use prism for x86 conversion may be after optimisation it will do best wait for entering asus in arm for performance.
Unplug testing for performence? Laptops most of the time used as plugin. You did not setup XElite to max performence. You set "Power mode" to "Best performence". If you want to have max performence you have to set "Power plan" to max
Trust me, I used every method to get the best performance. 1. Battery settings to best performance 2. Power plan settings in the Samsung Settings app to high performance 3. I ran Alex Ziskind’s PowerShell script to force Ultimare Performance mode on. The point of the X Elite chip is battery life so all tests must be done on battery power, especially since the #1 goal of this comparison was to see the battery life at the end.. which I did.
To be honest Qualcomm and windows did a very good job.But it can be a little bit disappointing. Overall performance is stable due to fans compared to MBA. The Samsung has 120 adaptive refresh rate and Oled panel which helps battery life. Considering these specs the MBA M3 is far ahead. And for now there is no game at all.
I’m looking for a new laptop in July just for web, office and watching video, I don’t need the power of creative or developer use.I'm so keen to try one of the new snapdragon boxes but keep swaying this way and that over which make and model. I’d also love a MacBook Air but wary of committing to the MB as I know the M4 MB will be right around the corner. I keep coming back to the MB not because of any technical superiority but just because I know it’s the safe bet. Have apple finally become the new Big Blue ?
For those tasks you would do perfectly fine with even the entry level Macbook Air or entry level Surface Laptop 7. The entry level Macbook Air with M2 cpu starts at $999, but it only gets you 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage. The entry level Surface Laptop 7 is also $999 and will get you a Snapdragon X Plus with 16GB of RAM and 256GB of storage. But a big plus with the Surface Laptop is that you can easily buy a new SSD for like a 100 bucks and install 1TB of storage. And you also get a 120hz HDR enabled display too. But honestly, I think both of those machines would work great for your use, but it's a bit crappy of Apple still starting on 8GB of RAM, Microsoft finally stopped doing that with these new machines.
@@rowaystarco My first MB lasted 7 years until I couldn’t upgrade it any more and it would not accept the latest OS. I have fond memories of it As I write, I am definitely going to buy a 15”, 16Gb, 512 MBA. I may think differently tomorrow. As I pondered over which to choose it occurred to me that I kept coming back to the MBA was it was the safe option, it wasn’t the unproven cutting edge option but a “safe pair of hands” as they used to say about IBM metal “nobody ever got fired for buying IBM”, does apple now hold that mantle in the premium laptop space? Whichever way I go this year I will buy the other option next year. Looking forward to comparison of the snapdragon vs Ryzen ai 300 laptops
@@Michael-sn1wq If you love MacOS, you should still go with a Mac imo. I just never learned to like MacOS on my Mac. The hardware was amazing, but I just don't like the operating system. But I'm in favor of people having freedom to choose their hardware and OS of choice. For me it is a Surface Pro with a pen.
Are u sure this is the fastest x elite? It turns out the surface laptop copilot plus PC is the one with Snapdragon X Elite X1E-00-1DE wich is slightly stronger than this one on Samsung built with X Elite X1E-84-100.
its sad that the flagship snapdragon chip is being compared to m3 air which is the lowest level of what apple offers not even their latest model. Yet it is slower in most tasks.
@@iconicmobile9422 and the snapdragon x elite gen 2 will be launched next year as well. Finally Apple might give 16gb ram as a standard on their base m4 pro macbooks
not when multitasking, when you have vscode, browser and any music app running at the same time, win on arm instantly boost your cpu to 2.5ghz resulting in 15watts of power usage. Meanwhile Mac is only around 5-8.
@@SuperG316 Somehow I doubt anything Intel makes will be "very efficient" but we'll see. That's kind of what I've been trying to tell people, M4 is *already out* and will be coming in MacBooks soon, M3 is last generation. It makes no sense to compare it to the X elite, a current generation SoC, and yet M3 is still winning in most areas.
He already compared it (it's 2 videos before this one) and spoiler alert: if you compare the results with those of today, the surface laptop performs better than the Samsung today while having a lower end X Elite and being smaller also having quiet fans. The Samsung is one of the worse X Elite laptops as it also throttles on battery (unlike the Surface)
Samsung Book4 Edge with X Elite 84 SKU ➡ geni.us/55LmUGu
M3 MacBook Air 15" ➡ geni.us/kMpdm
Hey Max Awesome video BTW, a little smt.. there a little annoying learning curve on the Samsung.
Please open the "Samsung Settings" app "Type it in full it'll not show up if not" under Advanced features enable "Quick Settings" "That's all 🤣" it should be on the sysem tray now u can drag it out for quicker access
You can install the app from MS-Store if it's not currently installed "in some rear cases it not"
HDR+: You'll get even better HDR at the cost of battery life
Camera: Studio mode will make your camera look a little better when activated
Audio: Turn on Dolby Atmos and God those speakers Pop "it's free"
and Performance: You are currently getting a worse performance on the Samsung since you are using the windows defaults u should use Samsung default
All this settings are on the QuickSettings panel.
Hopefully U use this in your updated videos "And show u are so people are aware since it's 2 clicks once setup"
Speakers on laptops are so stupid, bad sound all day, all year ! Use headset or bluetooth speaker !
I do not think your speedometer for web browsing is good enough, my old Lenovo laptop may not be as fast for ONE webside, but when I open multiple websides, then it keeps on going, even if it is slow, my Macbook M1 16 GB just jams and do NOTHING !
Snapdragon X Plus ❤❤
Max you should change the Power Plan in the old control panel to best performance too for the best results
As far as I see, Qualcomm managed to create a very competitive chip. So it is now up to computer manufacturers, Microsoft and software developers to utilize this chip to the fullest.
let's wait for ages
I had high hope because this is the newest attempt at making ARM mainstream but it seems to have flopped. There is really no excuse because this is not the first time Windows is trying to push ARM architecture. Recall AI is a security issue, who wants to draw pics, another review of that drawing feature was pretty crapping on another channel. Do I need live translation when most of the international shows have caption? Am I going to talk to foreigners live often to need the translation feature? Other features like camera tricks for blur and eye tracking already exists. And if battery still not as good as macbooks it leaves very little reason to try Snapdragon X Elite in the current form since ecosystem is already not as good and I was hoping power and battery is going to be much better (WITHOUT plugged in). It also seems like diff PC manufactures have a big difference in performance and battery and diff chip speeds that isn't easy to see and making a choice harder also
@@TokyoNeko8it is still in work in progress. Wait for Qualcomm's next generation chips or wait for further software updates because there arevmany frequent updates in x elit chips with big performance boost each time
Yess absolutely!! I think all the problems now aren't because of qualcomm, all blames now going to microsoft because they really need to make windows better.
@@okman9684 But Qualcomm's next generation will be competing with M5. You have to remember that this is being compared to a last generation SoC and that M4 will be its main competitor from Apple.
This actually turned out better than i thought considering barely anything is optimized for the ARM processor. Can't wait to see it's performance when everything is optimized.
The video thumbnail is giving A.I vibes by 3 hands in it
3 ARMs
@@IcecoldMayne *5
The fact that apple still putting lcd in 2024 in macbook is soul crushing
The pro models use mini-LED
There is a strong reason why they chose not to implement OLED on their laptop product. Because of the screen burn. Laptops are completely different from phones. It has many static graphic icons on the screen like Dock which is pretty dangerous in term of screen burn.
99% of laptops with oled displays have PWM flickering.
@@TomSrc Mini LED is just LCD with controllable backlight
@@sholmes_ttyy Yep! I find them much better for longevity compared to OLED. You won't be getting screen burn-in.
Please compare it to the 15 inch version of the surface laptop 7. Samsung really didn’t do anyone a favor with this laptop
@@MTN1601Don’t hold your breath on Surface Laptops battery performance. It won’t beat an M3 Pro MacBook.
@@tringuyen751920 hrs of 4k video playback on WiFi beats m3
@@tringuyen7519 the 2nd gen x elite would surely beat an m4 pro
I like that you were surprised when the machine with more processor cores won the multicore benchmark. This almost seemed set to give the Samsung the advantage.
Don't worry. We will compare it to the more expensive M3 Pro next week
why should it matter when you can get the Machine with more cores cheaper than the Machine with less cores. Price is huge factor at the end of the day.
More fun is when he Is also surprised when the M3 smokes the X Elite on Blender, when M3 is running full GPU accelerated and the X Elite runs under software emulation. lol.
@@MaxTechOfficial It's mostly a pointless comparison though. The M3 Pro is most likely more powerful, but the machines are also more expensive.
@@MaxTechOfficialcan we see a video where you benchmark it against a fanless iPad Pro with the m4 chip, might be a good sneak peak to what we will see this coming fall season when Apple brings m4 to the laptops.
screen size and refresh rate also matter in battery life
so its quiet good😌😌😏
Yes, OLED is more power-consuming for sure but most of these tests would not have used 120Hz much. Not sure about comparable screen sizes though likely the battery difference is not significant.
@@ahaimes6320 oled??? more power consuming???? you serious????
@@ahaimes6320 LCD is more power consuming :/
@@ahaimes6320?? No, OLED is more power efficient
My takeaways. It’s not always what you have, but how you use it. Overall the Macbook is on par while being fanless. If the Samsung were fanless it would cook itself. But overall I still find the Macbook better overall beyond mere numbers.
agree, because any MacBook is a single whole - software and hardware
You can't just expect high reliability from a gen 1 product. Let Qualcomm to cook. Apple already in 4th generation of their m series chip
@@_uncle_bob_ Windows only winning with its compatibility, other probably suck especially with optimisation compared to MacOS (heck even Linux). i am afraid these ARM Chips will be bottlenecked by Windows and their useless AI feature
@@burnedmozzarellayou can’t run cuda with win on arm too. 0 point
@@user-ww1xp5dv2j Microsoft is just fucking blob when it comes to Windows. those NPUs could be used better than an AI, especially one that screenshot everything you do without your consent.
These types of videos are why I’m subscribed to you guys. You can’t beat the comparisons, whether it’s smartphones, phone cameras, or computers. Going back to the very roots of Max Tech!
I’d love to see you guys compare the M3 Max to one of the newer 14900hx Windows beast laptops to see how the M3 Max has held up.
I love how you didn t sad anything about resolution
Being a mbp user, great job qualcomm, finally we have a competitor otherwise i never considered 100kg laptops with 2 hr battery life to be mac’s competitor
There is no comparison here. You picked the highest SKU for the Qualcomm chip. 12P cores vs 4P and 4E cores on the Mac. The Mac was only slightly slower, accept one, in the tests it lost which makes since as it takes 3E cores to match 1P core in a mac. So the mac has less than half the P core count and still won all but 3 tests. Sorry the Mac wins hands down... Oh nail in coffin here; as mentioned you put the flagship against the entry level and the entry level came out on top. Glad you mention at the end about another round but don't use the Pro chip do the Max with 40 cores. I mean you are picking the top SKU for Qualcomm it only makes since to choose the Max 16/40 for Apple.
surface laptop 7 is probably the best snapdragon laptop. Other are still kinda windowsy with inconsistent performance and battery
disagree
OLED CONSUMES MORE POWER THAN AN LED. WHY DOES NOT A SINGLE "TECH" REVIEWER NEVER MENTION THIS?? 🤷♀
I tought it was the opposite, no?
@@andi.k3979 If you watch movies with dark scenes the entire time, yes an OLED would consume less.. but everything else, it will consume more. Not to mention it's a dying screen. OEMs love putting OLEDs on their laptops cause they give you a reason to buy a new one in 24 months once the screen burn in occurs. OLED works on phones cause people replace them every 2 years or so. It's bad on laptops. Tandem OLED is a different story though. It's the latest OLED tech only found in the newest iPad and in the X Elite version of the XPS 13.
@@andi.k3979it depends, on light images then OLED consumes far more, on a dark image the OLED consumes less.
@@andi.k3979The XPS 13's OLED version has half the battery life of the LED version, granted it has more pixels to light up, still, half is huge and a bigger part of that is the power hungriness of OLED on non black images on screen.
@@andi.k3979only if it’s black on the screen
Wait, so after 4 generations of Apple Silicon, we finally have a competitor, but in some tests, it won't even match the M3, let alone the M4, Pro, or Max chips. There's some more catching up to do.
This maybe is the first batch. When Apple launched M1, the Pro and the Max were announced 1 year later and the Ultra 2 years later. Although the X Elite is below the promised, it's a good start. And the agreement with Microsoft finishes this year, so another companies may enter the game of ARM SoCs for Windows, too (rumors of AMD, nVidia, Mediatek and Samsung are willing to). Jensen Huang, Nvidia CEO, already gave clues about nVidia intentions when he was with Michael Dell and asked by Bloomberg.
It's their first generation of this kind of product and CPU power of the X Elite matches the m4 (around 15k in geekbench) in multi core performance, and single core is only 7% slower (geekbench 2.8k vs 3k). The NPU is top notch and we'll see if it's actually useful and programs start using it (like davinci resolve using it for tracking or noise reduction). Yeah the GPU is kinda just alright and Apple has the lead there, I expected more too, but as said this is very good for a first Generation product. It's good for us in the End as the end consumer we profit from more competition. Apple dropped the m4 only 6 months after m3 announcement because they were scared of the X Elite and it's multicore perfomance.
m3 won in most tasks. apple wins.
In your dreams, Isheep.
Samsung has the best display. Guess why because apple also buys from them
@@okman9684Nope. Apple has Samsung as well as BOE an LG manufacture displays that they designed
@@chidorirasenganznope samsung manufactures its own displays. LG and Boe are not on Samsungs level.
Nonsense, the Book4 has more stickers and that makes it 4X better.
Smsung did dirty with x elite they are underclocking it so hard that to get full performan6out of it you have to plug it to power supply.
That's because it's not actually as power efficient as Qualcomm led everyone to believe.
but that's exactly what people don't want from arm.. Why would you buy an arm pc if you have to plug it to a power supply like x86? At that point just get x86 lol
Just compare it with the 14" M3 MacBook Pro. It'll be fair.
Fair? MBP chasis is even more expensive than Air. With 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD it would be 250 dollars more than Galaxy Book Edge. Even with higher price you get smaller display in technology that happened to be inferior even with all those billions Apple put into MiniLED development.
Fair will be if it's comparable in price with the same config.
Bro you make nice videos but they are repetitive, you can try something new like try reviewing and comparing phones Android vs iPhone, or some gadgets or some other tech, and go outside this laptop world and try all other tech things.
May be if you try this and convince us viewers and entertain us in a lot different ways. All the best.
They‘ve done android vs iPhone many times over the years, how would that be new?
They did. They reviewed other stuff but not as much.
They can see the reactions and number of views. Most people could be more interested in apple and comparisons.
I for one feels that they are consistent.
@rtc3000 you are right I think
For the sound test, i doubt you enabled Dolby Atmos for speakers on the Samsung book 4. The sound profile changes substantially when you enable this
Great video. Take note that switching to best performance in the settings app does not do a great job. I think switching the power profile to High performance would give you way more better performance.
The bottom bezel on the Samsung and the diving board design of the trackpad are unforgivable in year 2024!
Really what about the bezels on the MacBook, FYI they are wider all around..
there is a secret setting on windows where you can unlock a high performance setting that just removes the cap on those chips. you have to do it in command line
The real question is how does it compare to M4? The M3 is still using ARMv8 cores while the M4 and SnapX chips are ARMv9. Qualcomm has done very well with these chips but I suspect Apple is still ahead. Bang for buck though, Qualcomm probably wins!
It's like comparing apples and pears. In the end, it comes down to which ecosystem (Apple or Windows) you prefer.
Testing coding performance lacks when comparing Windows and Mac.
It'd be great if you come up with a programming benchmark for both Windows and Mac.
Just wait until Strix comes out in Asus Laptops July 31st. I can't wait to see the testing with those, especially for graphics and gaming. Thanks for the great content Max Tech! 🔥👍
Curious to see how X Elite’s GPU stacks up to Meteor Lake
The Edge has a sound feature that has Dolby, You can make EQ adjustments that bring it up some for bass and treble. Its not bad not that I have adjusted it, but Apple is the standard no question for sound quality.
I'd be interested to see the MacBook's performance with some active cooling.
I'm interested to see how the Samsung will compete with the baseline MBP since the MBP has a fan.
Can you do this again but with the base model macbook pro 14 inch with m3?
Battery life for the X Elite is very impressive. Not just the slightly smaller battery. But the last few test you ran were not GPU accelerated on the X Elite. MacBook running faster and more efficient with better optimized software with GPU support while the X Elite was just brute forcing it with raw CPU. Idk about blender or Lightroom. But I know if I were to compare brute force x264 vs hw accelerated h264 encoding the total power draw difference would be massive even if for just 7 minutes.
to fairly test audio, use high quality wired headphones!
I would love to see the results of the tests on the Mac in low power mode. You guys have stated that low power mode doesn’t change results on M Macs but will probably have even more battery left in the end
The comparison videos are always interesting to watch. In the end however, it boils down to what OS you prefer. MacOS or Windows. If you use both then it’s a win/win.
It’s good to see some competition in the chip market, and the other options that are out there!
From what I've seen in other reviews the Edge doesn't run on full power even if you set it to "High Performance" unless it's plugged in.
Plugged in performance is much more important. Yeah.. The deal with these is being a portable laptop. Not i don't sit in a restaurant doing blender or video editing. Being outside of on flight there are tasks that could be don't like script or browsing, while having the ability to get better performance at home
I think beside the better display in real world for most people the MacBook still is better because the MacBook is for most real world tasks better(like in speedometer)and the more power isn’t worth the disadvantages in term of the chassi ,keyboard ,trackpad and also the thunderbolts ports are soo important and actually I think MacBook wins against the Samsung in terms of connectivity.Well also the m3 got a lot more grafikpower.Well and then there is windows ,which is just a problem on its own (yes windows is more flexible) and if you want something that just works and doesn’t brake at one point for any reason.The performance difference isn’t that big for a Maschine that doesn’t have fans
Personally I think the samsung beats apple in everything but Trackpad/Performance. Windows is simply a better os for the majority of workflows. I wish apple would just allow us to put windows on mac.
Enjoy it while you can, the m4 is about to debut. I love competition, it makes everything better.
Quick question, how does it feel not having a num pad. Also, having to got to a second keyboard on your touch screen devices to get to the number section Apple users?
What I’m really curious about is how the MacBook range holds up compared to the Asus ProArt 13 with 32gb of RAM.
Good video but I am disapointed that you didn't include video editing between the two using Adobe on both then Final Cut Pro on the M3 Air.
I do actually prefer the diving board design in a trackpad. I just hate those fake rumble-clicks in a MacBook or new surface. Drives me nuts
I have a doubt. These benchmarks you're running are not native ARM apps right? (except geekbench, thats native ig) And there is performance difference.
If every test was in native ARM. results will vary and X Elite will be faster.
remember this is first ARM chip in the market by snapdragon that can put actual competition in the market , in the future with more optimization of their chip they can dominate
Impressive first showing all round. The X Elite did well but I’d prefer it if they removed power profile settings altogether. The Elite X doesn’t need them and its perf per watt that matters most with any portable device. They would be better targeting a balanced profile all round amd going all in on battery life when unplugged. The entire point of Arm chips is that they can hit similar perf on battery due to low power and efficiency. Surely this is a chance to get rid of obnoxious fan spin up when in use???
I think the X-Elite is great for a 1st gen arm windows laptop chip. Can't wait to see the gen 2 hopefully they will up the graphics. I think Samsung needs to fix the early models fan noise and use better speakers 🔊
if the speakers were better & windows wasn't so buggy, i'd honestly consider upgrading from my m1 macbook air. maybe in a few more years, but the snapdragon elite chips are off to an impressive start
I hope this will push apple to increase there minimum ram and ssd on par or even better with Windows laptops
Excellent comparison 👍
don't know where you got that mac but it costs around 2300 and not 1900
Good to see some competition.
Should hopefully make Apple pull their socks up for the M4 MacBook Pro release and make it something worth replacing my M1 MacBook Pro with.
Can you do the macbook air vs surface laptop comparison?
Well.. I certainly don’t regret getting an XPS 9310 2-in-1 before these were announced now.
Tbh, the chip (with same battery size calculations (equalised at 66.5Wh)) performed the same in terms of battery life (arriving both at 48%)
Okay performance wise the m3 performes better
But qualcomm's chip still needs optimisations, qualcomm still need to improve in it too
For their first chip, it's already extremely (to me) impressive to see that on the pc market compared to the third year of apple in the pc market
Although small correction
The x1-84e chip have 4 p-cores and 8 e-cores, not 12 p-cores as i saw in the video
Which one should I consider air or thisone
With the MacBook pro test can you change the performance mode in powershell menu as well please.Maybe that's what is limiting the performance.
in speaker comparison, MacBook sounds distorted, if you play at same volume, Samsung sounds way better (but also do note Windows by default puts some shizzy EQ curves you might wanna disable)
Comparing fanless machine with the one with fans is never fair because of thermal throttling. However the overall review is more less right about pros and cons of both devices. Still when u want best optimized and most efficient machine u have to go with Apple which is currently KING of performance per watt and I don't think we will ever see Windows chip which can dethrone it. Apple's HW & SW integration and optimization is already legendary mimicking console like environment. On the other hand what Qualcomm or ex Apple Nuvia to be precise have achieve is extraordinary and very impressive. I was expecting much worse results so I have to give both Qualcomm and M$ credit for doing pretty good job and not repeating fails like with the previous Qualcomm Arm PC chips.
So basically what I learned from this video is that the X Elite is an extremely powerful and efficient chip that's being heavily limited by none other than Windows itself.
Now we wait for someone to get Linux working on this beast so that the chip can actually stretch its legs
surely they are too close to let the cooling work properly?
I’d like to see a comparison of windows via parallels vs the X Elite. Also, the major drawback of windows on arm is hardware compatibility. I don’t believe the emulation allows you to use x86 drivers. Try plugging a bunch of usb devices and see what fails. Particularly older stuff
Mac fans keep trashing Windows because they keep on supporting old stuff. If you need your computer to be compatible with a bunch of old USB devices, don't buy a Mac or a Snapdragon laptop. There's plenty of devices to choose from.
I think Samsung can do much better with the hardware, they should go all out just as they do with the s24 series devices, the screen is already the best, they can add a bigger battery, better speaker and touchpad
I never thought windows laptops would ever get to this position, I’m excited about the competition, apple will also have to improve their displays now
It’s crazy that the laptop can run this well without a fan. Well nice comparison
The Cinebench CPU advantage will be due to the X Elite having 3x the performance cores. The whole 8 vs 12-cores is disingenuous. Where are the power consumption stats? Also Cinebench CPU is highly scalar multi-core and Geekbench emulates normal multi-core scaling. Why not compare Blender CPU scores or run the Blender benchmark?
Unsure about X Elite failure in Cinebench CPU, non-RT Macs run it fine.
Might be a weird request but can you do an updated "gaming with mac and the x elite" but with games that people would probably actually play instead of cyberpunk level games. MOBAs come to mind maybe some light fps valorant or something CSgo and such. The portability and performance is already good no question but I guess I wanna know if it can do it all haha.
Windows arm is not optimised for softwares they use prism for x86 conversion may be after optimisation it will do best wait for entering asus in arm for performance.
Excellent video, thank you so much
13:09 Might just be optimisation issues
Cool for Apple to get competition. I have the M2 Max MacBook Pro fully speced out and it’s a extremly slow and distressing computer to use
What will the score be if x elite is going against m3 max macbook? What will be the score?
Only 17fps in 3D mark is very disappointing for the new snapdragon, the binned M1 gets 13fps and it is four years old
I think the Lenovo Yoga slim 7x is a much better value. 32GB + 1TB + OLED for $1313 MSRP. Also has upgradable 2242 storage.
Has Intel ever considered going to an ARM chip set?
Unplug testing for performence? Laptops most of the time used as plugin. You did not setup XElite to max performence. You set "Power mode" to "Best performence". If you want to have max performence you have to set "Power plan" to max
Trust me, I used every method to get the best performance.
1. Battery settings to best performance
2. Power plan settings in the Samsung Settings app to high performance
3. I ran Alex Ziskind’s PowerShell script to force Ultimare Performance mode on.
The point of the X Elite chip is battery life so all tests must be done on battery power, especially since the #1 goal of this comparison was to see the battery life at the end.. which I did.
@@MaxTechOfficial Nice work when!
I'm a macbook fan but now I'm thinking about getting a pc laptop. Will probably replace windows with linux though. This is nice we love competition
Should I short qualcomm? I didn't see why the hype, but I'm not to computer savvy
which one to buy? AMD AI HX 370
To be honest Qualcomm and windows did a very good job.But it can be a little bit disappointing. Overall performance is stable due to fans compared to MBA. The Samsung has 120 adaptive refresh rate and Oled panel which helps battery life. Considering these specs the MBA M3 is far ahead. And for now there is no game at all.
Now we have windows on ARM; how much it is possible to have windows on Mac too?
It has been built by the same team who built M1, it is Nuvia's team product
17:22 That's weird because Qualcomm makes the best phone GPUs.
I’m looking for a new laptop in July just for web, office and watching video, I don’t need the power of creative or developer use.I'm so keen to try one of the new snapdragon boxes but keep swaying this way and that over which make and model. I’d also love a MacBook Air but wary of committing to the MB as I know the M4 MB will be right around the corner.
I keep coming back to the MB not because of any technical superiority but just because I know it’s the safe bet.
Have apple finally become the new Big Blue ?
For those tasks you would do perfectly fine with even the entry level Macbook Air or entry level Surface Laptop 7. The entry level Macbook Air with M2 cpu starts at $999, but it only gets you 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage. The entry level Surface Laptop 7 is also $999 and will get you a Snapdragon X Plus with 16GB of RAM and 256GB of storage. But a big plus with the Surface Laptop is that you can easily buy a new SSD for like a 100 bucks and install 1TB of storage. And you also get a 120hz HDR enabled display too.
But honestly, I think both of those machines would work great for your use, but it's a bit crappy of Apple still starting on 8GB of RAM, Microsoft finally stopped doing that with these new machines.
@@rowaystarco
My first MB lasted 7 years until I couldn’t upgrade it any more and it would not accept the latest OS. I have fond memories of it
As I write, I am definitely going to buy a 15”, 16Gb, 512 MBA. I may think differently tomorrow.
As I pondered over which to choose it occurred to me that I kept coming back to the MBA was it was the safe option, it wasn’t the unproven cutting edge option but a “safe pair of hands” as they used to say about IBM metal “nobody ever got fired for buying IBM”, does apple now hold that mantle in the premium laptop space?
Whichever way I go this year I will buy the other option next year.
Looking forward to comparison of the snapdragon vs Ryzen ai 300 laptops
@@Michael-sn1wq If you love MacOS, you should still go with a Mac imo. I just never learned to like MacOS on my Mac. The hardware was amazing, but I just don't like the operating system. But I'm in favor of people having freedom to choose their hardware and OS of choice. For me it is a Surface Pro with a pen.
Are u sure this is the fastest x elite? It turns out the surface laptop copilot plus PC is the one with Snapdragon X Elite X1E-00-1DE wich is slightly stronger than this one on Samsung built with X Elite X1E-84-100.
No, you're wrong.
Very impressive, Qualcomm and Microsoft, very impressive
Samsung also has Daisy chaining
I am a windows user,but damm now windows fans finally have something that they can be proud until the m4 hits🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Vmware/virtualbox won’t work with snapdragon right?
Isn't MacBook Air fanless and is designed for lightweight tasks, not multi core stuff ?
its sad that the flagship snapdragon chip is being compared to m3 air which is the lowest level of what apple offers not even their latest model. Yet it is slower in most tasks.
It's great to see that Linux finally has some decent hardware choices
The bigget problem with "Galox" Book: Windows! That's why I would never buy it. But it's always nice to see the hardware and the price!
Why are we comparing emulated benchmarks with native benchmarks ?
On the thumbnail, he has 3 "arms"
Get it ? ARMs
Lmao
lame
he changed the thumbnail :(
3 strong ARMs = 💪 💪 from gym + 1x from Apple (M1) ... 😁
nice
The OLED display on the Galaxy might have a higher peak brightness.
And higher refresh rate
OLED display #TOPS Macbook Air (in the Missionary Position)
@@sativagirl1885Do OLED screens make MacBook Air squirt on missionary?
Nice to see Apple Silicon finally getting some real competition. A win win for Mac users!
Now Apple gonna turn it up. I know they got everything ready they just need to release.
@@iconicmobile9422 and the snapdragon x elite gen 2 will be launched next year as well. Finally Apple might give 16gb ram as a standard on their base m4 pro macbooks
lol the M4 is already out there.
Given that Qualcomm barely competes with the m3, there has to be a blood bath once m4 mac are released
@@Noah-xn5th It's great for a first gen product though... and it'll be interesting to see how things progress over the next 5 years.
@@Noah-xn5th buddy it's better than m1 and m2. That's amazing for a first gen product.....
The Galaxy Book battery life can keep up with Macbook air. Really impressive actually
it even beats the $2000 M2 Max Macbook pro in single and multicore CPU.
not when multitasking, when you have vscode, browser and any music app running at the same time, win on arm instantly boost your cpu to 2.5ghz resulting in 15watts of power usage. Meanwhile Mac is only around 5-8.
@@user-ww1xp5dv2j I suspected something like this might be the case. At least it doesn't use as much as Intel...
@@SuperG316 Somehow I doubt anything Intel makes will be "very efficient" but we'll see.
That's kind of what I've been trying to tell people, M4 is *already out* and will be coming in MacBooks soon, M3 is last generation. It makes no sense to compare it to the X elite, a current generation SoC, and yet M3 is still winning in most areas.
yep, even arm surfaces weren't lasting this long
In Netherlands the 15" M3 Macbook Air with those kind of specs costs € 2116 ... Even tho 1 dollar = € 0.92
Can you compare the M3 MacBook Air against the Windows surface 7 or the Lenovo slim 7x?
He already compared it (it's 2 videos before this one) and spoiler alert: if you compare the results with those of today, the surface laptop performs better than the Samsung today while having a lower end X Elite and being smaller also having quiet fans. The Samsung is one of the worse X Elite laptops as it also throttles on battery (unlike the Surface)
@MainInternetUser that's just your subjective imagination.