Dan is funny 😅 "mmm, right, sho, i get you, that's true, completely, sho, right, i here you, i understand, okay, yah, mm, totally " This was so painful to watch😅
Painful because of Naledi, or painful because of Dan? I feel like Dan was too courteous and inoffensive in this interview, to the extent that Naledi could just speak endlessly in incoherent platitudes and babble without Dan giving strong pushback on her claims. I physically cringed listening to Naledi speak. What's painful is that many South Africans think they are convincing.
@shevek161 Dan made it bearable , but his people pleasing skills are not always suitable for these type of interviews. His strength became his weakness.
This is the problem with South African journalism nowadays. Politicians are given licence to run all over journalists all because of fear. This is just sad
@@shevek161Yeah, she bullied him with platitudes. Dan didn't question EFF's demonstration of success. What have they achieved? How can they be trusted to run a far more complicated Government than the current one? How will they repair existing state institutions?
This was not a conversation, felt like an argument and propaganda. Just wanted her to listen to the questions with the patience's Dan had with her as she answers.
Why the obsession with owning that which is natural? You’ll own your house and your properties, just not empty land for the sake of owning something. People are starving for land 🤝
@@lockdownhouse6308 you dont seem to understand where this can lead to. Houses are built on land which means the government can affectively just decide one day that this neighbourhood will be reformed into something completely different and just evict everyone since they dont own the property the houses are built on. You're focusing on free land not understanding how the rule affects much more than that. You will never really own anything
It's very effect in China. Imagine if we want to build a railway line and we see that we have to move you somewhere else then you stop us . Majority of the people suffers because of the few.@@Regula_joe
@@lockdownhouse6308 By land, they mean property rights. Property rights include your home, your business, your car, etc. If it suits the state, they could seize your property at any moment and redistribute however they want and you will have no say.
@@babolico9354 dude, what are you talking about? I don't own any land. Many black people living here are foreigners too. Land restitution has already taken place - the land is in the government's hands. They are not redistributing. But, what has that got to do with being controlled by the government?
The ANC has done major damage to this country, basically brought it to it's knees. If the EFF ever comes into major power, that would be the final nail in the coffin.
@maribelediga7410 that question is really worrisome. On my side what I would advise, please leave which party will fix S.A but focus on which party has better views on possible solutions to the country's problem. Like ARISE has logic, reasoning and argumentative views on Taxes, Energy and Unemployment. ATM views on Farming, Opening market to small farmers to tackle unemployment and revivve our economy. ...... and so forth there are lot of parties Please vote for the right reasons not the noise.
Sir, you have showed an abundance of patience in this interview. The lady needs to learn to listen more than she speaks. Many times she runs around in circles, repeating the same thing over and over again. It was also quite off-putting how she kept speaking over you almost all the time. This is the kind of narcissistic characteristic that puts people off regarding the EFF. There are some times when what they say makes sense, but many more times when they don't. Unfortunately, because of the way that they carry themselves, their message is one that is often not understood or heard in the first place, that's even if they have one in the first place.
@@BayiTyhaliif im a stupid person and you are smart in a conversation. I think as a smart person u can easily find a better way of expressing your point rather than saying it louder and louder.
Well done, solid response @@lordzole, I couldn't agree more. Keep talking to us like we are stupid we stop listening then you can scream into the ether. Be concise to helps you sound less emotional and more "scientic"
This chick is not making any sense. Repeating the custodian line as if it explains your hypothetical policy. Platitudes, nothing-burgers and just general ignorance. I was hoping to hear a sober argument since I too believe there is a significant issue in SA with regard to land.
So what is the issue about the land? and what solution do you propose? In the meantime EFF want to manage land exactly how China is doing it. Go listen to Floyd Shivambu or Sinawo Tambo since you too educated to understand what Naledi is saying.
@@lockdownhouse6308 Also take note of mass evictions that China has done for decades to make way for private companies to use the land because 'the government owns it'. China has evicted millions of people from their homes or government land or whatever you want to term it. Can you imagine having your house being demolished because the government said its our land and we want to give it to a private company. Sounds like what happened in apartheid. Politicians will only sell positive news and we will buy it hook, line and sinker.
@@ramasodimalete2699 then they should have a representative who understands those "deeper ideological underpinnings of what they intend to do" (whatever tf that means) and knows how to convey a CONSISE point. This is floundering, pathetic and pseudo-intellectual garbage.
Shout out Dan for the content, I applaud how you managed to remain unbias in this interview and still asking the question we as the public are concerned about although you didn't get any of those answers as the EFF representative came to scream and could barely get out of her own way to actual address the questions.
The EFF's policies don't work in the real world because they are not properly thought out. They will completely destroy our economy and country!! Imagine empty supermarket shelves and a single loaf of bread costing thousands of Rands!!! This is exactly what happened in Zimbabwe and also Venezuela when policies similar to those of the EFF were implemented in those countries!! Google the price of a loaf of bread in Zimbabwe in 2008 and you will see what I mean!!
The EFF's policies are totally unrealistic and unworkable in the real world!! If the State owns all the land in SA , how can an individual then own his/ her own property/ house which is on the land??? This is also a breach of the fundamental Individual Rights enshrined in our Constitution!!!
I think the one thing that is clear is the EFF is painting an alternative future for South Africa. The more they speak the clearer it become. This is something none of the other parties have been able to do succefully.
I don't trust a government with that amount of power, running the country like a dictator, the same way I don't trust businesses that runs like a monopoly.
@danewilliams6799, you racists don’t want them but us Africans do and they are 10 years old with 10%. Meanwhile your DA is way over 10 yards old and is still at what 13% 😂 Get lost!
Haha. I could paint you a pretty picture with promises and back it on a radical agenda too. Just because it's clear wht they intend, doesn't mean it should be done or it can be done
What a difficult discussion to listen to, I must commend you Dan for the patience and ability to retain all the various conversational threads presented to you. Half of me can’t stand the character of arrogance, aggression and general posture and disagreeableness of EFF representatives and members and would seriously consider leaving this country if they were given a majority to rule, but the other half of me wants those that support them to actually get what they want so they can finally get a chance to reap the consequences of their choice and learn first hand what this ideology produces. Time will tell I suppose…
The unfortunate thing is that if EFF got what they wanted the average voter would be thrust into a Zimbabwe style economy of hyper inflation, disinvestment in the economy and increased unemployment while the politicians they voted for would be the insanely wealthy politicians that we see there. The poor would continue to suffer, and Julius and the upper echelon would continue to grow richer. Man what a dynamic
@@Happy_Spatula very much agree there, that’s very well aligned with my analysis as well. I just feel so frustrated sometimes at the level of misguided certainty with which they believe what they are doing is right and in their own best interest, yet do not realise there might be a wider picture they’re missing, and the only way I know for a person who pridefully believes they know it all is to learn from their mistakes. In this case this is why only half of me might be willing to let them learn their lesson the hard way and unfortunately take the rest of us along with them in the process, and hopefully sense will prevail before too many generations normalise the destruction and deem it natural like the the unfortunate cycle the Congolese find themselves in. Though Zimbabwe might be an even closer example of this vicious cycle… but I do agree with you that in this regard we should be careful of what we let off our tongues in case we get it.
@@champagnedaniemy brother this is the head of communications and a member of parliament. I think your analysis might be just a little bit of an understatement.
Im always up for hearing what all the parties have planned for the country should they come to power. I can't say i particularly gel with everything she's said. But I now have clearer idea of what the EFF wants
@@pamelamonteiro9601focus on the message, remember we are different people and we belong to different organizations we are naturally different but we can learn to be tolerant and get the message that's communicated and pay little attention if the process is a bit rough for your liking but now the end product is much more important than the process. You can't keep milking the same cow that's not giving you milk because you don't like the violent temperament of the cow that's giving you more milk.
@@pamelamonteiro9601 EFF militancy takes away the power of the message to those people who are still in denial that this gentleman approach isn't working and hasn't worked for 30 years, they are the problem and not the EFF. I wish people can give themselves sometime to read about EFF so that they aren't shocked about it's militancy and radicalism. It's in the constitution of EFF that " EFF is a radical , militant leftist movement". EFF identified a vacuum and occupied it. We had the opposition that has been handling affairs gentlemanly but still the general living conditions are deteriorating everyday, why not give an alternative an ear for what it says and not how you wish it said what it says. We are tired of economic apartheid now, we have been very civil for the whole 30 years, we need a new approach now.
Custodians of Land = No land or property investments will be made. Land/property market wouldn't be worth anything within a couple of years. Nobody invest in something they don't own.
@@ScissorN Nope. America literally has a 5th amendment which protects private property rights and the Chinese model is definitely to be avoided at all costs - we'd have multiple violent protests within the first hour. The only reason the latter is not collapsing, is because the Chinese are diligent and disciplined people who do not mind working for next to nothing in sweat shops. Good luck with finding any of that in this country.
You speak of investors as donors. There's a vast distinction between the two. Investor's motives are profit-driven. The "safety" of their investments are a key determinant for them to decide, and they have no immediate intention of foregoing the profits they receive from our country. The land policy of the state being custodian of land doesn't threaten the security of their investments whatsoever. Investors aren't high morale people doing favors for countries, they are business people. They will come to terms.
I disagree so very much. You would be stripping the citizens of land who already own and those who could own it by handing it all to the government. Then that same government, who we are supposed to believe will not be biased and corrupt, will give it people who it chooses it likes to give land. That doesn't sound good at all. Instead of giving government power over people, wouldn't it be better to form organisation to acquire land for themselves like the Ingonyama Trust has done
The EFF couldn't resist stealing a cellphone during a scuffle in Ekurhuleni council And we're supposed to relinquish our constitution and our rights to them because, "just trust us bro, we'll do the right thing"? Theres that quote about "those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it" that we really ought to be heeding here. The EFF have still not answered for VBS, the source of their party funding, and the fact that they continue to flip flop on their positions, revealing to everyone that the only thing that matters to the EFF is power, not truth or some higher ideal. This party is a scam. ANC corruption on steroids
"And remember kids, the next time someone says 'The government wouldn't do that' OH yes they would" is what keeps playing in my mind the more Naledi talks about what the EFF would and wouldn't do...
When ANC took power, they didn't think their organisation would be the mess it is today. Nothing is stagnant! Their successors could be like zanu pf, where now only elite politicians own land and resources to do as they please.
Well it's Dan fault for being a push over & acting like it's a popularity contest to get people to like you by agreeing and nodding even when she insults him
@@NamedNumbers You fail to understand that Dan was doing his job and he did it perfectly. Dan is not there to counter anything you say or do. He is there to ask you something and if you aren’t paying attention that’s on you. She did herself a major disservice by not listening. That means she gave a great example of what to expect from an upcoming politician like herself. It actually funny that so few people can understand that she played herself
@@watasht0ff360Firstly some general education & understanding without showing your a being a kiss-ass directly. MR who thinks I fail to understand, rarely do people do things 'perfectly', so get a reality check cause that interview wasn't one of those times. Now moving on, I understood enough or rather I endured enough bullshit to see and hear a kiss-ass more concerned about the political & social scene than speaking or uncovering any truth, let alone asking any real or hard question without any room for bullshit & political dogma sermons of a liar that carries on with their delusional soup while presented on a platform . Where do you even place your compass to get those co-ordinate points from what he said or I typed. (Counter what I said), even though I only typed. . . You sure are one awakened french fry getting rotten on the floor. But regardless when did I ask for his insight or type something he could of countered, you not very specific with your nonsensical comments. & "Is he really there to ask me something" Really do you even read your own words before you press enter., Clearly you lacking some English classes on comprehension and maybe start paying attention to what dribble you are typing before you start correcting others or insisting they not paying attention when you can't even figure out reality from the fiction playing in your head, let alone how to word a proper question & observation, but I'll help you out the word you are looking for is SHOW YOU, he is there to show us something well in fact as a journalist or truth seeker he actually there to UNCOVER things if possible or at the very least present an unbiased view from various sides of the argument He also didn't even ask any decent question beyond pandering to whatever image or vision they wanted or previously decided on & he didn't once call her out for her bs. He is there to float his own flotilla nothing more, while using his platform to educate himself with in the process. So, why don't you keep those lackluster observations & dismal perceptions with addiction to fan fare & bullshitting for your own side of the grass. Yes others are all blind but you see, it's truly remarkable how humans that lack perception pretend to be more than they are, while pretending others are less somehow, and then believing it so because of few jumbled words they use & nobody to refute them cause they stopped looking past their nose a long, long time ago. I am sure you'll also defend your nonsense before even analyzing and accepting your own culpability & lack of attention you held, let alone how flawed those observation are. But carry on snowflake
She makes a good point about the adverse effects if propping up the private sector at our expense, that will only increase inequality. I mean look at the ANC after they abandoned RDP in favour of GEAR, inequality sky rocketed.
NOTHING has increased inequality MORE in SA than the looting of trillions of Rands of public money!!! Imagine if all the money lost to corruption had been used to uplift people out of poverty and to maintain and build new infrastructure in SA, what a better position our country would be in today!!!!! Rather vote for the only political party in SA with a 15 year track record of Clean Audits and good governance / service delivery and see the DA difference!!!
@@libumbelufundo6118 We should learn not to repeat the same mistakes that other countries like Zimbabwe and Venezuela made when they implemented similar Communist Policies to those proposed by the EFF!! Imagine empty supermarket shelves and paying thousands of Rands just for a loaf of bread!! Google the price of bread in Zimbabwe in 2008! These countries have still not recovered today and may never do so!!
@@tonitappous2422 The current state of this country is unsustainable and precarious. I’d rather try the social route. Either way, change is inevitable…
This one doesn't know what she's talking about, she clearly has NO IDEA what socialism is and its dire consequences for the economy and the people. She's explicitly saying that the state must be run via grants and high taxes for the working class, the same working class who the grandstand to be fighting for.
I think the approach from Dan has been very consistent in how he does his interviews. This interview was not any different from the ones he has had in the past and this format works. That is why we come here to and watch. To listen to what the people he is interviewing have to say. Not to listen to the interviewer arguing with the person being interviewed. If want that then go watch someone else. ❤❤❤
I disagree. I think there were many more questions that Dan could have asked to examine claims made by Naledi. These didn't have to be critical but I don't have a clear understanding (and I suspect neither do the EFF) of how items in their manifesto will be achieved.
@phen2841 one question could be: "which country in your opinion has best executed your views and values ?" Cause right now, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING they are promoting, zimbabwe implemented, and their country is a mess.
Well done Naledi...the majority of people understand exactly what you are saying...but because they are beneficiaries of apartheid and colonialism....they will refuse to hear you...but we are soldiering on.
You literally can’t. I’ve debated with an EEF member once, and I swear they said the exact same stuff. Sometimes word for word on certain ideas.😢 Logic could not be used because he did not want to hear anything that did not match the paradise he had in his head.
@@BayiTyhali then explain with superior logic how the economy will not fail when all the bonds attached to these expropriated properties will no longer be paid. Please.
This was a great conversation. A lot of people here listened with a pre determined opinion and chose to close to close their ears to what Naledi was saying. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Thanks Dan
Although it is great to have as many parties as possible on this platform, I am not sure what I am watching. Is this a soapbox or an interview? Very few questions that interogate the facts or question the arguments. Naledi completely steamrolls the discussion.
Put your trust in the EFF. The EFF leaders each received millions through a money laundering scheme - funds they used to prop up their glitzy lifestyles, their families, their businesses and their political aspirations.
@@SiboneloThokozani All of those top politicians hide with the lack of proof. The country knows what is going on. Unless maybe they are behind a brick wall
Who pays for the bonds for peoples land when they owe money on it? surely the banks are going to lose out big time. I'm sure not going to pay for something i don't own anymore.
@@ianmacaskill2732it would seem that bonds, as we know them, would no longer exist. Given a scenario that the EFF would not be interested in evicting the current residents, it seems that the banks would then forfeit the title deeds and the current bond holder may have to write off whatever was already paid. Presumably, the occupant would have to continue to pay to lease or rent. It would have been great though to get clarification around the example of current residential property with bonds attached.
I am happy that you got an EFF representative to show us who they are. I hope I never have to go down to this level just to check what politicians are doing. Normally with all the things that they want to do has implementations that deserve and need expertise, knowledge, when maintaining the plan. I doubt that this type of intelligenza would be able to accomplish this. Thanks for this insight.
I did not suffer through school and corporate sacrifice to ask for permission to use land I bought legally while being taxed 41% this is nonsensical , never!!!!
@@brightonndlovu6293We are not deaf she said clearly there will be no private ownership of land under the EFF you will need permission to use land because it does not belong to you . If they deem your land unproductive it will be given to someone else to run a business on , dont gaslight us.
@@danewillams6799 Yes you are correct, they won't be private land. All land will be under State custody. Land will be divided into Zones. Residential land, Agricultural land, industrial land etc. All residential, agricultural and industrial land in productive use will be protected. If you occupy industrial and agricultural land you have to be productive if not why occupy it when you cannot be productive? That's as simple as that. No one is going to own thousands and thousands of hectares of unused land.
Yazi that's exactly what I'm thinking. Their president just told them they don't own any land he does😂 My father owns land is he supposed to give up his life long investment and hand it all to the government
@@kusaselihlengubane8984 my black mom has land, my black boyfriend has land, my grandparents left their children land, my great grandparents had land. Like just buy land like everyone if you want land
She is terrible. Not a good representative. she said nothing. All she repeated was " the state will be the custodian of all land". I don't think she knows what that truly means and what it encompasses.
@@nompumelolo we don't need to go to this extreme when judging her. It doesn't mean that if she is black she is a thief. We won't get anywhere with this attitude.
But she said the state is being bullied by private sector and that is why their plan is to give the state it's power back so that it can serve the people and not the private sector for profits. isn't that something ?
Yup the same 'state' that rode all SOEs into the ground should now be the custodian of the land. Guess who will get all the tenders to 'manage' etc etc the land . Time to eat
Honestly, Dan, I have a brand new respect for you, I could barely sit and listen through this whole video... It's ignorance on a brand new level here 😭
An intriguing perspective from Naledi. It raises the question: How can we place trust in a party that appears to be vigilant about governance along the coast, while the ruling party remains embroiled in corruption under their coalition? Is transparency selectively applied, where the EFF exposes others but avoids scrutiny of their own involvement in corruption? These questions are important for me as a first-time voter, seeking clarity. Wishing all the parties the best!
Chirwa earned a Bachelor of Arts and a Honours degree in Drama and Film Studies at the University of Pretoria. She is currently pursuing a Master of Arts in Theatre and Performance at the University of the Witwatersrand.[2]
🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️. Leadership has nothing to do with degrees. It’s either you have it or not. Education only supports what’s already in you. Just to sharpen your skills.😊
3:17 Just a small correction, no private ownership of property or land is NOT part of Socialism. In Socialism private ownership of property or land remains, it is only the "means of production" that cannot be held by private ownership. In other words, in Socialism, your house and your stuff is still your private property, but when you go to work, the "company" you work at is owned by the people or state, and not owned by private individuals for financial profit for themselves. In Socialism, these "company ownership" is mostly in the form of CO-OP's, which has been proven world wide as hugely successful (even here in SA), and out performs Capitalist corporations and companies every time, on almost all fronts, especially when economic times are down. What most Capitalist cannot rap their heads around is the fact that in Socialism, the main objective of "companies" are not to generate massive financial profits for a small elite group of individuals, it's main objective is to provide goods and services at an acceptable price that benefit all. It is only in Communism that all land is owned by the state, and we all know how that worked out, it was a resounding failure. As a major example, the USSR stagnated on Communism, and never became a Socialist country, which would have made it a great success. It's so funny to hear people refer to the USSR as an example of Socialism and its failure, because it was never a Socialist country, it was a Communist country. Sadly most Westerners have very little knowledge about what Socialism is, except the propaganda their Capitalist bosses & Capitalist owned MSM feeds them on the regular, to make sure that their employees never realise that Socialism is the better system, and to protect the interests of the select elite's private interests and exorbitant profits and extravagant elite lifestyles, while their employees struggle to put food on the table. What the EFF is suggesting, it seems, is a Communist system for SA, which has been proven can never work and does not work, as it only trubo-charges corruption of government and impoverishes the majority of the people and basically makes the people slaves of the government elites, as they are 100% dependent on government's bread crumbs for the people. Old USSR is a PRIME EXAMPLE of that spectacular failure. Communism failed, because all that Communism in effect does, it replaces the "Elite SELECT FEW SUPER RICH CAPITALISTS", with an "ELITE SELECT FEW SUPER RICH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS", so it has VERY LITTLE benefit for the masses of the population (but it will have MASSIVE FINANCIAL BENEFIT for the EFF government officials, if they ever come to power).
@mmb811, let's be fair Socialism developed in the middle of the Industrial Revolution. At the time, the means of production had the most impact on the economy. Now, the government doesn't need to control means of production to drastically impact the economy, They use more sofisticated tools like interest rates, repo rates, excessive money printing, national debt...etc to control the economy. By that logic, we're already socialist 😅
I don't get y eff is confusing communism and socialism. And they so confident in their nonsense 😢. Communism and socialism they r not the same. They 2 different things.
They know communism doesn't work so they call it socialism, and they get away with because people don't look beyond the political rhetoric. However we cannot let these people take away our economic freedom, political freedom or any other form of freedom. StopTheCommies!!!
Well the thing is no country has ever been communist because as they say communism is only possible globally not on a nation, what is possible on a nation is socialism which is what the Soviet Union was the USSR is short for union of Soviet socialist republics not communist.
Thanks, Dan for this. As someone in Cape Town I don't know much of the EFF. This has helped alot. Good luck with all your future interviews and keep them coming.
Reminder to self that may assist others: I can still make my point without shouting or raising my voice when conversing with just one person (perhaps adjust this for a rally). There is power in remaining calm while being resolute when communicating your message...especially when you have such a great listener and platform! Sounding emotional makes you sound so much more defensive.
In this case it was indeed emotional. Defending the point instead of rationally taking in criticism or outlining a workaround, or admitting the fact that "I do know everything, I am one person and I am uncertain to how we will do this but it is something we will consider/are considering/ you raise a good point." The whole discussion ended up feeling hollow and sounding shallow as a result.
It shows that this party’s leadership lacks emotional intelligence 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️. Yes educated but a leader needs to now how to carry out conversations. This is not parliament debates. Only needs to communicate the party’s plans clearly. Nope nope they can’t lead.
They will have access to land from having none. They will keep the proceeds of such economic activity just like you would when you go to work where you are granted temporary access to the factors of production and after giving your labour then you'll get a wage or salary.
You mean why they keep cutting people off? Don't confuse that with anger. But note that cutting people off is aggressive, so I can see where the view of anger falls in. Reasons why people cut off other poeple in a conversation is to have control over the conversation, supressing the other person from having interaction. Which to me is not a good sign for a party.
The state being the custodian of all the land just means that the governing party would control all of the land. Private ownership is a right we all deserve, however people SHOULD be limited to how much land they own.
Ja - that is the only thing - I do believe a limit should be placed on land ownership per person. But yes - governments should have no place in controlling people's daily lives and owning everything including land is wrong and shows their greed. The same thing happened in Zimbabwe! They took the land but never gave over 90% (if not more) to people. They kept it because all it was was a voting ploy. 95% unemployment today and people entertain these communist ideas. It's madness. They must wake up. Otherwise it's them who will be the ones to suffer. Not me. I'll simply be gone. But I want to help my fellow South African of all races. But I won''t live under a bunch of thugs - that's for sure (the ANC are bad but the EFF are simply the ANC on steroids that's all). And here's the kicker as well - the EFF make out like land is the biggest issue. They must answer this: 1. Why do they want land that is already making food for the country for all the people? They'll mess it up. With that said - the government owns vast tracks of arable unused land already!!!! Because land reform, which the EFF don't like to say, has already largely happened. The land restitution process - many many white farmers did sell the land to the government but 90% of the claimants took the money, Therefore the land is now vacant government land. So why not take that land and build up emerging black farmers on that land? 2. Ask them why do you want to pursue socialist and communist ideals when it worked nowhere else on this planet. God we have a country to the north of us that pursued it and it ended in tears for over 98% of the population black and white. 3. Why is Ekhuruleni the worst run metro in the country when they have major MMC positions there and why were they fighting with the ANC like dogs outside the city hall last week? Do residents want to see that? No all they see is a metro falling to pieces whilst politicians fight for the loot . Madness people can even think of this racist thieving scum
Last year we renovated 10 old age homes and donated R100000 to each,yesterday 03/03/2024 CIC was celebrating his birthday with the Kids from Ivory Park community center,we donated R100000,we will sponsor them with R10000 grocery for the whole year and each child will get new shoes and new school uniforms from the EFF.We have trained pilots from the poor families and just to remind you we are not using taxes because we're not in government as the ruling party.
@@simphiwedlamini8243da does that too,Zuma built a school too,and has donated too what have u done for south africa as a whole for example we have high crime rates what have u done about that we also have illegal immigrants that u want to bring in the country with no jobs smh
@@amogelangselota Please don't lie about the DA, the question was what did the EFF do for South Africans,that's why I mentioned those few things it's more than that I just mentioned the ones where a lot of people benefited,if you are asking about what is EFF is doing about crime ,on that one our MMC in JHB is has introduced a lot of innovation strategies to fight crime in JHB unfortunately it's the crime stats that will indicate if they are making a difference in curbing it or not.
As many have said in these comments, this seemed to be too much of a soapbox. @dan corder, I understand the need to balance being welcoming and to attact these speakers, but you allowed this speaker to roll over you in parts. She spoke over you and left you saying only "yes...", "okay..." or "I understand..." for whole minutes at a time. Attracting these speakers is important, but you are lending them your platform. Your platform has serious value and the price of that is stiff, but fair questioning. You had numerous opportunities to question the facts she put down, to critically address her comments, to bring in data, to create debate. Too often those were missed. I love 90% of your material, but this interview was sadly not part of that group.
@@BayiTyhali I would disagree with you on that. I think Dan could have asked more penetrating questions. I would have loved to see her sense backed up with numbers and data. I'm sure she had them, but Dan didn't push her to do that. That's my criticism.
@@stuartdunc100 fair enough, is that how he conducts all his interviews though? Or Isnt the whole point of it that you give people the platform to articulate themselves freely and openly without them feeling like they're not given enough room to do so, what would be the point of having an honest conversation if you're going to dictate how your interlocutor should articulate themselves in responding to your questions?
This was hard to listen to - I am absolutely not an EFF supporter but there is a responsibility on me to listen to it to understand both sides. That being said, she failed to mention the real drawbacks of what she is advocating for. How land can be freely given to the highest bidder. How people will be expected to pay taxes on the use of land that will never be theirs. How over the 10 years you are loaned the land that you invest money into it and make it more valuable, how that becomes property of the state if they don't renew your lease... she doesn't mention any of this because it's bad PR.
Am I the only one that understands her, she made herself clear a number of times. Either Dan didn't understand the land issue from her pov, but it makes perfect sense. It's a working model in Singapore. I trust the EFF, they're the only guys that want the best for the country. Unfortunately the people that need vote are illiterate
If all land got nationalised, international investment would disappear overnight, never mind the huge risk of loss to any investments they currently have. No one on EFF has to say this, this is common sense. Poor economic performance is obviously tied to nationalism/communism. @@teeanjackson4146
Dan: why should RSA trust you with more power than ANC already has/how will you deal with corruption EFF: Transparency Also EFF: Why should we declare who our funding donors are great transparency 😭👍🏿
Please get Sinawo Tambo 🤝 I see people are “acting” confused because of Naledi’s way of explaining. In the the meantime, EFF want Land to be managed by state exactly how China is doing it 🤝
I now see where the EFf is going and I think is the best way to go. It means more employment, less tax, free education and more economic benefits for the country rather than few individuals.
I couldnt get through this interview. Dan hardly got a chance to complete a sentence, unfortunately. It makes sense that they contacted the show for an interview, it was an opportunity to campaign and not actually be interviewed.
Malema mentioned the Opperheimers a couple of times in his recent Kaya FM interview and now Naledi is mentioning it again. Are the Oppenheimers (white minority) the main narrative of the EFF or do they have policies that can actually be practically achieved? What impact are these policies going to have on non white land owners? What has the EFF done for citizens as leaders in any form of government? After 30 years of democracy, are we not past these issues of race. I would have hoped that we are now at a stage of trying to save a country together, regardless of race or party.
Issues of race are here to stay until we're all relatively on plain level field. Otherwise it is still going to haunt us . Just look at the crime levels, it's a sore in our backside. Inequality breeds criminality
They paddle whatever is in fashion. They want to run south africa like a spaza shop. There's a lot of land in rural areas (i live in a rural area and its EMPTY), they don't want rural land, they want houses in waterkloof they didn't buy. Sies
So who is going to pay the banks for land they do not own. The EFF takes my house means I wont pay the bank. Who will pay the banks when the state really owns it. Banks collapse and SA is done for.
Summary of the interview: Oppenheimers, speaking over Dan, the State is the guardian of the land, Oppenheimers, speaking over Dan once again, nationalisation; no wait private can be there. Malema did speeches orderly on SABC news, this guy just shouts and speaks over Dan. She did not mention anything on fighting corruption. Dan, if you manage to do so, next time call Malema, Shivambu or Sinawo Thambo.
Land point is a gigantic NO! Can't put that much power to the government and if you worked hard for your assets only makes sense your descendants to benefit.
The ignorant EFF followers think there are golden watches attached to this land that they will suddenly be able to live on. Just like they imagine a job is a thing that is conjured up and pays lots of money reaped from the trees in the fairy-land grove. I find it profusely ironic that they don't understand that they will never own anything under EFF rule, while the latter is literally what they are campaigning for.
@@helenduplessis4166 So you basically don't know how he undermined the judiary neh?? Why would you make such a baseless statement then Helen? Malema is giving you nightmares neh? He turns to have such an effect on dumb racists. We understand.
A government should serve an administrative role only in my opinion. A democratic government should not be an all-powerful, all deciding, all owning government that limits the opportunities of its people. Not allowing people to buy and sell land under their own free will controls where people can or cannot live and work..... food for thought
It is unlikely that any farmer will make the agricultural investments required for reasonably productive farming if the land can be taken away tomorrow.
@@SiboneloThokozani Maybe, if the lease spans a lifetime. But then again, what if the farmer proves useless within a few months? Then we are sitting with all that land dormant for 99 years.
Unpopular opinion: Generational farms are better because they create more value I their product and have Generational knowledge to maintain the farmland
This chick is a perfect representative of the EFF - speaking with total confidence about a “solutions” when there is ZERO substance to what she’s saying. Anyone who votes EFF is doing it purely along racial lines and is voting based on emotions.
One thing i like about the EFF is that education becomes the order of the day and i have no doubt that with this kind of mentality they can execute their plans very well,unlike the ANC where cader deployment cadership is an order of the day.🙄
My initial problem was that I wanted someone who talked a certain way to represent these issues and hated how She came on the show and gave what I thought was a more emotional attempt at convincing than a calm rational approach. But then I watched the video a few times and realized there is a language disconnect here and that's the problem. She doesn't debate fluently in English and her prefared method of representing the Eff's policies and ideas is very different from the debates that are normally had in this channel. But maybe that was wrong for me to demand that from her. The majority of South African are not British Parliamentary style debating champions. English is a second language for most of us. If you listen to what she says and not how she says it she killed this.
@@the_antiquark And I get that I truly do. I'm just saying if we're gonna disagree with them it's best to get to know what it is they stand for. If that makes sense.
Dan is funny 😅 "mmm, right, sho, i get you, that's true, completely, sho, right, i here you, i understand, okay, yah, mm, totally "
This was so painful to watch😅
Painful because of Naledi, or painful because of Dan?
I feel like Dan was too courteous and inoffensive in this interview, to the extent that Naledi could just speak endlessly in incoherent platitudes and babble without Dan giving strong pushback on her claims.
I physically cringed listening to Naledi speak. What's painful is that many South Africans think they are convincing.
@shevek161 Dan made it bearable , but his people pleasing skills are not always suitable for these type of interviews. His strength became his weakness.
This is the problem with South African journalism nowadays. Politicians are given licence to run all over journalists all because of fear. This is just sad
@@shevek161Yeah, she bullied him with platitudes. Dan didn't question EFF's demonstration of success. What have they achieved? How can they be trusted to run a far more complicated Government than the current one? How will they repair existing state institutions?
Came here to write this and I am only 6 minutes in 😂 are the EFF hold a gun to Dans head? Ok, back to the show!
THIS ONE WANTED TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH HER SELF
I love how the host is open minded. My brother you are what South Africa should be , you are not black or white but simply South African .
This was not a conversation, felt like an argument and propaganda.
Just wanted her to listen to the questions with the patience's Dan had with her as she answers.
Dan is asking honest & fair questions, I don't know why is she in a hurry to argue.
Get Sinawo Thambo please.
COMMISSAR NALEDI is equal to task chief o ka no nyaka sinawo ke geno mpsa
@@bonganebongs9147 Tell them to return vbs bank money First. Damn fools.
Waphapha wn colbert shame
@@bridges5659did you give up colonial benefits and apartheid benefits you had for 340+ years.
@@Jay-rd3hn hey, don't talk shyt to me me.
EFF summary: Trust us, we know and will decide what is best for you.
Terrifying.
That's protecting democracy according to them 😂
Terrifying if you are hoarding land and are selfishly benefiting from it.
you afraid of loosing your privilege
You are very lazy minded my friend
A government owning land is scary. So i pay you tax but never owns anything? Make it make sense
Why the obsession with owning that which is natural? You’ll own your house and your properties, just not empty land for the sake of owning something. People are starving for land 🤝
@@lockdownhouse6308 you can’t own a house if you don’t own the property.
@@lockdownhouse6308 you dont seem to understand where this can lead to. Houses are built on land which means the government can affectively just decide one day that this neighbourhood will be reformed into something completely different and just evict everyone since they dont own the property the houses are built on. You're focusing on free land not understanding how the rule affects much more than that. You will never really own anything
It's very effect in China. Imagine if we want to build a railway line and we see that we have to move you somewhere else then you stop us . Majority of the people suffers because of the few.@@Regula_joe
@@lockdownhouse6308 By land, they mean property rights. Property rights include your home, your business, your car, etc. If it suits the state, they could seize your property at any moment and redistribute however they want and you will have no say.
I don't want to be controlled by a government. I like autonomy.
The government control everything in america
Then Europe is good for u u have choice is not like we are denying u the righs
It's called FREEDOM! And seems they want to take more and more of it, and we can't let that happen
This is africa 🌍 black people lost there land by apartheid government so the land has to be given back to the government to help its people..
@@babolico9354 dude, what are you talking about? I don't own any land. Many black people living here are foreigners too. Land restitution has already taken place - the land is in the government's hands. They are not redistributing. But, what has that got to do with being controlled by the government?
The ANC has done major damage to this country, basically brought it to it's knees. If the EFF ever comes into major power, that would be the final nail in the coffin.
Which political party you think will revive SA?
@maribelediga7410 that question is really worrisome. On my side what I would advise, please leave which party will fix S.A but focus on which party has better views on possible solutions to the country's problem. Like ARISE has logic, reasoning and argumentative views on Taxes, Energy and Unemployment. ATM views on Farming, Opening market to small farmers to tackle unemployment and revivve our economy. ...... and so forth there are lot of parties
Please vote for the right reasons not the noise.
@@maribelediga7410 According to STATS SA the Western Cape is by far the best governed Province in the whole of SA, thanks solely to the DA!!
@@maribelediga7410 According to STATS SA, the DA governed Western Cape is the best run Province in SA!!
You mean if the DA leadership comes to power...I think you will welcome apartheid back!
Sir, you have showed an abundance of patience in this interview.
The lady needs to learn to listen more than she speaks. Many times she runs around in circles, repeating the same thing over and over again. It was also quite off-putting how she kept speaking over you almost all the time. This is the kind of narcissistic characteristic that puts people off regarding the EFF. There are some times when what they say makes sense, but many more times when they don't. Unfortunately, because of the way that they carry themselves, their message is one that is often not understood or heard in the first place, that's even if they have one in the first place.
You repeat the same thing over and over to a stupid person
@@BayiTyhaliif im a stupid person and you are smart in a conversation. I think as a smart person u can easily find a better way of expressing your point rather than saying it louder and louder.
@@lordzole 😂😂😂what you want the. To draw pictures
@@BayiTyhali with words, preferably
Well done, solid response @@lordzole, I couldn't agree more. Keep talking to us like we are stupid we stop listening then you can scream into the ether.
Be concise to helps you sound less emotional and more "scientic"
Nearly fell of my chair laughing when she said we are a very scientific party
If science is strikes then they are very scientific 😂
didn't they say science was a western concept a while back?
ever heard of political science?
Her arse. She thinks managing a country is easy.😂😂😂😂
What makes you think they are not? Do you know how they make decisions?
This chick is not making any sense. Repeating the custodian line as if it explains your hypothetical policy. Platitudes, nothing-burgers and just general ignorance. I was hoping to hear a sober argument since I too believe there is a significant issue in SA with regard to land.
Its maybe because she said they very scientific.😂
So what is the issue about the land? and what solution do you propose?
In the meantime EFF want to manage land exactly how China is doing it.
Go listen to Floyd Shivambu or Sinawo Tambo since you too educated to understand what Naledi is saying.
@@lockdownhouse6308 Also take note of mass evictions that China has done for decades to make way for private companies to use the land because 'the government owns it'. China has evicted millions of people from their homes or government land or whatever you want to term it. Can you imagine having your house being demolished because the government said its our land and we want to give it to a private company. Sounds like what happened in apartheid. Politicians will only sell positive news and we will buy it hook, line and sinker.
@lockdownhouse6308 lol but he said her solution is vague. They don't go deeper, there are deeper ideological underpinnings of what they intend to do.
@@ramasodimalete2699 then they should have a representative who understands those "deeper ideological underpinnings of what they intend to do" (whatever tf that means) and knows how to convey a CONSISE point. This is floundering, pathetic and pseudo-intellectual garbage.
Shout out Dan for the content, I applaud how you managed to remain unbias in this interview and still asking the question we as the public are concerned about although you didn't get any of those answers as the EFF representative came to scream and could barely get out of her own way to actual address the questions.
Man, do I feel stupid here or did she really not clarify anything?
Nope it means that you are very stupid, because all she was doing was explaining 😂
The EFF's policies don't work in the real world because they are not properly thought out. They will completely destroy our economy and country!!
Imagine empty supermarket shelves and a single loaf of bread costing thousands of Rands!!!
This is exactly what happened in Zimbabwe and also Venezuela when policies similar to those of the EFF were implemented in those countries!!
Google the price of a loaf of bread in Zimbabwe in 2008 and you will see what I mean!!
100%
Me too, totally lost
The EFF's policies are totally unrealistic and unworkable in the real world!!
If the State owns all the land in SA , how can an individual then own his/ her own property/ house which is on the land???
This is also a breach of the fundamental Individual Rights enshrined in our Constitution!!!
She needs to work on her communication and public presentation skills. This was a painful interview, I couldn't even finish it.
I think the one thing that is clear is the EFF is painting an alternative future for South Africa. The more they speak the clearer it become. This is something none of the other parties have been able to do succefully.
I don't trust a government with that amount of power, running the country like a dictator, the same way I don't trust businesses that runs like a monopoly.
The more they speak the more we understand we dont want them thats why they stay on 10%
@@danewillams6799The more they speak, the less is understood.
@danewilliams6799, you racists don’t want them but us Africans do and they are 10 years old with 10%. Meanwhile your DA is way over 10 yards old and is still at what 13% 😂 Get lost!
Haha. I could paint you a pretty picture with promises and back it on a radical agenda too.
Just because it's clear wht they intend, doesn't mean it should be done or it can be done
Thank you Dan for allowing Naledi to speak without interrupting and not interrupting each other.
What a difficult discussion to listen to, I must commend you Dan for the patience and ability to retain all the various conversational threads presented to you. Half of me can’t stand the character of arrogance, aggression and general posture and disagreeableness of EFF representatives and members and would seriously consider leaving this country if they were given a majority to rule, but the other half of me wants those that support them to actually get what they want so they can finally get a chance to reap the consequences of their choice and learn first hand what this ideology produces. Time will tell I suppose…
She is smart BUT very unprofessional of her to not Prepare for this Interview, hence her points didn't accord with the EFF manifesto 100%.
The unfortunate thing is that if EFF got what they wanted the average voter would be thrust into a Zimbabwe style economy of hyper inflation, disinvestment in the economy and increased unemployment while the politicians they voted for would be the insanely wealthy politicians that we see there. The poor would continue to suffer, and Julius and the upper echelon would continue to grow richer. Man what a dynamic
@@Happy_Spatula very much agree there, that’s very well aligned with my analysis as well. I just feel so frustrated sometimes at the level of misguided certainty with which they believe what they are doing is right and in their own best interest, yet do not realise there might be a wider picture they’re missing, and the only way I know for a person who pridefully believes they know it all is to learn from their mistakes. In this case this is why only half of me might be willing to let them learn their lesson the hard way and unfortunately take the rest of us along with them in the process, and hopefully sense will prevail before too many generations normalise the destruction and deem it natural like the the unfortunate cycle the Congolese find themselves in. Though Zimbabwe might be an even closer example of this vicious cycle… but I do agree with you that in this regard we should be careful of what we let off our tongues in case we get it.
@@champagnedaniemy brother this is the head of communications and a member of parliament. I think your analysis might be just a little bit of an understatement.
They can and will do nothing. Talk is cheap.
Im always up for hearing what all the parties have planned for the country should they come to power.
I can't say i particularly gel with everything she's said. But I now have clearer idea of what the EFF wants
Same, I don't agree either, but it is nice to now have a clearer idea of what the EFF is looking at for the future of SA
Problem is it's always put forward with a very aggressive attitude, which takes away the context of the interview.
@@pamelamonteiro9601focus on the message, remember we are different people and we belong to different organizations we are naturally different but we can learn to be tolerant and get the message that's communicated and pay little attention if the process is a bit rough for your liking but now the end product is much more important than the process. You can't keep milking the same cow that's not giving you milk because you don't like the violent temperament of the cow that's giving you more milk.
@@lindilelubabalozulu8476 I do not mean to demean you or your party.
The aggressive delivery, takes away the power of the eff message.
@@pamelamonteiro9601 EFF militancy takes away the power of the message to those people who are still in denial that this gentleman approach isn't working and hasn't worked for 30 years, they are the problem and not the EFF. I wish people can give themselves sometime to read about EFF so that they aren't shocked about it's militancy and radicalism. It's in the constitution of EFF that " EFF is a radical , militant leftist movement". EFF identified a vacuum and occupied it. We had the opposition that has been handling affairs gentlemanly but still the general living conditions are deteriorating everyday, why not give an alternative an ear for what it says and not how you wish it said what it says. We are tired of economic apartheid now, we have been very civil for the whole 30 years, we need a new approach now.
Custodians of Land = No land or property investments will be made. Land/property market wouldn't be worth anything within a couple of years. Nobody invest in something they don't own.
China and America use the same policy but you will not say the same about them
@@ScissorN Nope. America literally has a 5th amendment which protects private property rights and the Chinese model is definitely to be avoided at all costs - we'd have multiple violent protests within the first hour. The only reason the latter is not collapsing, is because the Chinese are diligent and disciplined people who do not mind working for next to nothing in sweat shops. Good luck with finding any of that in this country.
You speak of investors as donors. There's a vast distinction between the two. Investor's motives are profit-driven. The "safety" of their investments are a key determinant for them to decide, and they have no immediate intention of foregoing the profits they receive from our country. The land policy of the state being custodian of land doesn't threaten the security of their investments whatsoever. Investors aren't high morale people doing favors for countries, they are business people. They will come to terms.
@@lungelophewa9107 you have seriously contradicted yourself here. More than once. LOL.
She lost me at EFF becoming custodian of the land...
All I got from this interview is that the state is the custodian of the land
I’m not assured 😂
I disagree so very much. You would be stripping the citizens of land who already own and those who could own it by handing it all to the government.
Then that same government, who we are supposed to believe will not be biased and corrupt, will give it people who it chooses it likes to give land. That doesn't sound good at all.
Instead of giving government power over people, wouldn't it be better to form organisation to acquire land for themselves like the Ingonyama Trust has done
She is smart BUT very unprofessional of her to not Prepare for this Interview, hence her points didn't accord with the EFF manifesto 100%.
The EFF couldn't resist stealing a cellphone during a scuffle in Ekurhuleni council
And we're supposed to relinquish our constitution and our rights to them because, "just trust us bro, we'll do the right thing"?
Theres that quote about "those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it" that we really ought to be heeding here.
The EFF have still not answered for VBS, the source of their party funding, and the fact that they continue to flip flop on their positions, revealing to everyone that the only thing that matters to the EFF is power, not truth or some higher ideal.
This party is a scam. ANC corruption on steroids
In a utopia yes but apartheid happened and people who have idea's will not have the opportunity to have land u dumb dumb
At least people can see through this haphazard plan.
Most of the university liberals don't unfortunately
Dan: asks questions
Her: THE STATE IS THE CUSTODIAN OF THE LAND
"And remember kids, the next time someone says 'The government wouldn't do that' OH yes they would"
is what keeps playing in my mind the more Naledi talks about what the EFF would and wouldn't do...
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
When ANC took power, they didn't think their organisation would be the mess it is today. Nothing is stagnant! Their successors could be like zanu pf, where now only elite politicians own land and resources to do as they please.
@@kgethi4 Spot on.
If the EFF is ever in power that will be the end of South Africa, that will be the time to leave.
🤣🤣🤣 you are a fool how come you don't leave during apartheid? Or under the ANC..EFF VIVA EFF
bye
@@melusimgwenya5844 black middle class, white middle class whoever can leave will leave, South Africa will be worse than Zim
@@timothybarlin7835 socialism worked in Venezuela and Libya and India
@@melusimgwenya5844 elements of socialism are good. But handing all land over to the gov is a genius idea. It has failed all over the world.
South Africa needs more young people to stand up together have a voice to build our country they must get themselves involved
Seems impossible to have a conversation when all she does it talk over you before you can even utter a word. Lame
Well it's Dan fault for being a push over & acting like it's a popularity contest to get people to like you by agreeing and nodding even when she insults him
Don't be in your feelings my guy, she is 10× more educated than you are, and has communicated the EFF policies clearly and effectively
She very intelligent and this is what we call black intelligence in young people in South Africa 🇿🇦.
@@NamedNumbers You fail to understand that Dan was doing his job and he did it perfectly. Dan is not there to counter anything you say or do. He is there to ask you something and if you aren’t paying attention that’s on you. She did herself a major disservice by not listening. That means she gave a great example of what to expect from an upcoming politician like herself. It actually funny that so few people can understand that she played herself
@@watasht0ff360Firstly some general education & understanding without showing your a being a kiss-ass directly. MR who thinks I fail to understand, rarely do people do things 'perfectly', so get a reality check cause that interview wasn't one of those times.
Now moving on, I understood enough or rather I endured enough bullshit to see and hear a kiss-ass more concerned about the political & social scene than speaking or uncovering any truth, let alone asking any real or hard question without any room for bullshit & political dogma sermons of a liar that carries on with their delusional soup while presented on a platform .
Where do you even place your compass to get those co-ordinate points from what he said or I typed. (Counter what I said), even though I only typed. . . You sure are one awakened french fry getting rotten on the floor. But regardless when did I ask for his insight or type something he could of countered, you not very specific with your nonsensical comments. & "Is he really there to ask me something" Really do you even read your own words before you press enter., Clearly you lacking some English classes on comprehension and maybe start paying attention to what dribble you are typing before you start correcting others or insisting they not paying attention when you can't even figure out reality from the fiction playing in your head, let alone how to word a proper question & observation, but I'll help you out the word you are looking for is SHOW YOU, he is there to show us something well in fact as a journalist or truth seeker he actually there to UNCOVER things if possible or at the very least present an unbiased view from various sides of the argument
He also didn't even ask any decent question beyond pandering to whatever image or vision they wanted or previously decided on & he didn't once call her out for her bs.
He is there to float his own flotilla nothing more, while using his platform to educate himself with in the process. So, why don't you keep those lackluster observations & dismal perceptions with addiction to fan fare & bullshitting for your own side of the grass.
Yes others are all blind but you see, it's truly remarkable how humans that lack perception pretend to be more than they are, while pretending others are less somehow, and then believing it so because of few jumbled words they use & nobody to refute them cause they stopped looking past their nose a long, long time ago.
I am sure you'll also defend your nonsense before even analyzing and accepting your own culpability & lack of attention you held, let alone how flawed those observation are.
But carry on snowflake
This was painful to watch, she doesnt listen. Talk talk talk. I bet Dan didnt ask half of the questions he has.
THE EFF IS JUNIOR ANC.
The woman studied drama says it all
She makes a good point about the adverse effects if propping up the private sector at our expense, that will only increase inequality. I mean look at the ANC after they abandoned RDP in favour of GEAR, inequality sky rocketed.
NOTHING has increased inequality MORE in SA than the looting of trillions of Rands of public money!!!
Imagine if all the money lost to corruption had been used to uplift people out of poverty and to maintain and build new infrastructure in SA, what a better position our country would be in today!!!!!
Rather vote for the only political party in SA with a 15 year track record of Clean Audits and good governance / service delivery and see the DA difference!!!
You really gonna trust government with owning all the land bro?
@@mousepad9763 Compared to this shitshow we have now, I’d trust them.
@@libumbelufundo6118 We should learn not to repeat the same mistakes that other countries like Zimbabwe and Venezuela made when they implemented similar Communist Policies to those proposed by the EFF!!
Imagine empty supermarket shelves and paying thousands of Rands just for a loaf of bread!!
Google the price of bread in Zimbabwe in 2008!
These countries have still not recovered today and may never do so!!
@@tonitappous2422 The current state of this country is unsustainable and precarious. I’d rather try the social route. Either way, change is inevitable…
"I would never take business advice from someone without a business"
-T.Msiza
This one doesn't know what she's talking about, she clearly has NO IDEA what socialism is and its dire consequences for the economy and the people. She's explicitly saying that the state must be run via grants and high taxes for the working class, the same working class who the grandstand to be fighting for.
😅😅😅You were clearly listening to your own pain...
This was a tough interview. The atmosphere 😬
Lost about 2/3rds of my last 3 IQ points watching this video.
EFf seems to have a plan, with the people in the eff and how they act in parliament, ay idk if they will be able execute these plans
They will. Parliament is supposed to hold the Executive accountable, not to protect it.
Lol, every time they try to bring in a new law, 50% of them will be kicked out before the voting even begins, as usual 😆
Obviously they won’t be able to. These EFF idiots couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery!
Dissapointed Dan wasn't prepared to counter many of the ridiculous claims
Yeah, he is waaaaay too polite and scared to offend.
I think the approach from Dan has been very consistent in how he does his interviews. This interview was not any different from the ones he has had in the past and this format works. That is why we come here to and watch. To listen to what the people he is interviewing have to say. Not to listen to the interviewer arguing with the person being interviewed. If want that then go watch someone else. ❤❤❤
I disagree. I think there were many more questions that Dan could have asked to examine claims made by Naledi. These didn't have to be critical but I don't have a clear understanding (and I suspect neither do the EFF) of how items in their manifesto will be achieved.
@phen2841 one question could be: "which country in your opinion has best executed your views and values ?" Cause right now, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING they are promoting, zimbabwe implemented, and their country is a mess.
Which ridiculous claims are you referring to
Well done Naledi...the majority of people understand exactly what you are saying...but because they are beneficiaries of apartheid and colonialism....they will refuse to hear you...but we are soldiering on.
Can't debate with ignorance
You literally can’t. I’ve debated with an EEF member once, and I swear they said the exact same stuff. Sometimes word for word on certain ideas.😢 Logic could not be used because he did not want to hear anything that did not match the paradise he had in his head.
No you cant debate with superior logic
Her surname says it all Zim@@BayiTyhali
@@BayiTyhali then explain with superior logic how the economy will not fail when all the bonds attached to these expropriated properties will no longer be paid. Please.
This was a great conversation. A lot of people here listened with a pre determined opinion and chose to close to close their ears to what Naledi was saying. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Thanks Dan
I agree with you. It's a shame when they display on comments
But then again it's a free country
So we pay tax but cant own land or have private bank accounts? Hmmmm
This party thinks we will pay tax when the government owns everything and we have nothing?🤔
no one said anything about not having private bank accounts
We can't have private bank accounts?
@@kemangolwethu The EFF wants to nationalize every industry including banking. Form your own conclusion on that.
@@Blank76438 eff se ma se poe$$$
Although it is great to have as many parties as possible on this platform, I am not sure what I am watching. Is this a soapbox or an interview? Very few questions that interogate the facts or question the arguments. Naledi completely steamrolls the discussion.
I think it's correct to allow the guests to express their views and let us decide on if we agree with what they're saying or not
Dan being so calm sure sure 😂 playing along.
Was he supposed to be not calm
Who is electrified as i do now guys....we need young energetic lady like her.. she is a mentor to many youths..
Put your trust in the EFF.
The EFF leaders each received millions through a money laundering scheme - funds they used to prop up their glitzy lifestyles, their families, their businesses and their political aspirations.
proof
I hear you but wheres the proof?
@@SiboneloThokozani All of those top politicians hide with the lack of proof. The country knows what is going on. Unless maybe they are behind a brick wall
@@SiboneloThokozani Phala Phala Mr Ramaphosa admitted the fact he had the $ [no proof] Protected people.
Who pays for the bonds for peoples land when they owe money on it? surely the banks are going to lose out big time. I'm sure not going to pay for something i don't own anymore.
That's where creating the state bank comes into play. More power to the EFF
@@IamJoshDylan how so? they going to pay off the bonds on properties once they have become "state owned"
@IamJoshDylay yes comrade 😂😂😂
@@ianmacaskill2732it would seem that bonds, as we know them, would no longer exist.
Given a scenario that the EFF would not be interested in evicting the current residents, it seems that the banks would then forfeit the title deeds and the current bond holder may have to write off whatever was already paid. Presumably, the occupant would have to continue to pay to lease or rent.
It would have been great though to get clarification around the example of current residential property with bonds attached.
@@IamJoshDylan Oh my word I used to follow you on twitter way back when, good to "see" you.
I am happy that you got an EFF representative to show us who they are. I hope I never have to go down to this level just to check what politicians are doing. Normally with all the things that they want to do has implementations that deserve and need expertise, knowledge, when maintaining the plan. I doubt that this type of intelligenza would be able to accomplish this. Thanks for this insight.
I did not suffer through school and corporate sacrifice to ask for permission to use land I bought legally while being taxed 41% this is nonsensical , never!!!!
Who said you'll ask permission to use the land when already in use ? You are confused.
Womp womp 😂
@@brightonndlovu6293We are not deaf she said clearly there will be no private ownership of land under the EFF you will need permission to use land because it does not belong to you . If they deem your land unproductive it will be given to someone else to run a business on , dont gaslight us.
@@danewillams6799 Yes you are correct, they won't be private land. All land will be under State custody. Land will be divided into Zones. Residential land, Agricultural land, industrial land etc. All residential, agricultural and industrial land in productive use will be protected.
If you occupy industrial and agricultural land you have to be productive if not why occupy it when you cannot be productive? That's as simple as that. No one is going to own thousands and thousands of hectares of unused land.
@@brightonndlovu6293 Its MINE, If im black ,white , colored or Indian its MY land I paid for its madness.
giving government all that power is giving CCP but with zimbabwe's economy
Haha, I agree with you.
Yazi that's exactly what I'm thinking. Their president just told them they don't own any land he does😂 My father owns land is he supposed to give up his life long investment and hand it all to the government
@@kusaselihlengubane8984 my black mom has land, my black boyfriend has land, my grandparents left their children land, my great grandparents had land. Like just buy land like everyone if you want land
@@nompumelolo why buy things when you can throw tantrums and get it for free.
Yup. Julius has long admired Zimbabwe - the place politicians are wealthy but the common man is poor
She is terrible. Not a good representative. she said nothing. All she repeated was " the state will be the custodian of all land". I don't think she knows what that truly means and what it encompasses.
she's in parliament, all she's thinking about is eating from state funds
@@nompumelolo we don't need to go to this extreme when judging her. It doesn't mean that if she is black she is a thief. We won't get anywhere with this attitude.
The EFF took the sharpest tool they had in their tool box . And it happen to be her
But she said the state is being bullied by private sector and that is why their plan is to give the state it's power back so that it can serve the people and not the private sector for profits. isn't that something ?
Yup the same 'state' that rode all SOEs into the ground should now be the custodian of the land. Guess who will get all the tenders to 'manage' etc etc the land . Time to eat
Honestly, Dan, I have a brand new respect for you, I could barely sit and listen through this whole video... It's ignorance on a brand new level here 😭
An intriguing perspective from Naledi. It raises the question: How can we place trust in a party that appears to be vigilant about governance along the coast, while the ruling party remains embroiled in corruption under their coalition? Is transparency selectively applied, where the EFF exposes others but avoids scrutiny of their own involvement in corruption? These questions are important for me as a first-time voter, seeking clarity. Wishing all the parties the best!
The EFF is so arrogant, they think they are above the law.
Looking how knysna has gone down the drain in the last 18 months , there will be serious issues if the eff take over.
How do traditional leaders become traditional leaders? Is it a birth right?
Pretty much. They were the previous government so to speak
Chirwa earned a Bachelor of Arts and a Honours degree in Drama and Film Studies at the University of Pretoria. She is currently pursuing a Master of Arts in Theatre and Performance at the University of the Witwatersrand.[2]
She is not a very good actor 😂
Lmao to be fair you could tell
🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️. Leadership has nothing to do with degrees. It’s either you have it or not. Education only supports what’s already in you. Just to sharpen your skills.😊
3:17 Just a small correction, no private ownership of property or land is NOT part of Socialism. In Socialism private ownership of property or land remains, it is only the "means of production" that cannot be held by private ownership.
In other words, in Socialism, your house and your stuff is still your private property, but when you go to work, the "company" you work at is owned by the people or state, and not owned by private individuals for financial profit for themselves. In Socialism, these "company ownership" is mostly in the form of CO-OP's, which has been proven world wide as hugely successful (even here in SA), and out performs Capitalist corporations and companies every time, on almost all fronts, especially when economic times are down.
What most Capitalist cannot rap their heads around is the fact that in Socialism, the main objective of "companies" are not to generate massive financial profits for a small elite group of individuals, it's main objective is to provide goods and services at an acceptable price that benefit all.
It is only in Communism that all land is owned by the state, and we all know how that worked out, it was a resounding failure. As a major example, the USSR stagnated on Communism, and never became a Socialist country, which would have made it a great success. It's so funny to hear people refer to the USSR as an example of Socialism and its failure, because it was never a Socialist country, it was a Communist country.
Sadly most Westerners have very little knowledge about what Socialism is, except the propaganda their Capitalist bosses & Capitalist owned MSM feeds them on the regular, to make sure that their employees never realise that Socialism is the better system, and to protect the interests of the select elite's private interests and exorbitant profits and extravagant elite lifestyles, while their employees struggle to put food on the table.
What the EFF is suggesting, it seems, is a Communist system for SA, which has been proven can never work and does not work, as it only trubo-charges corruption of government and impoverishes the majority of the people and basically makes the people slaves of the government elites, as they are 100% dependent on government's bread crumbs for the people. Old USSR is a PRIME EXAMPLE of that spectacular failure.
Communism failed, because all that Communism in effect does, it replaces the "Elite SELECT FEW SUPER RICH CAPITALISTS", with an "ELITE SELECT FEW SUPER RICH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS", so it has VERY LITTLE benefit for the masses of the population (but it will have MASSIVE FINANCIAL BENEFIT for the EFF government officials, if they ever come to power).
@mmb811, let's be fair Socialism developed in the middle of the Industrial Revolution. At the time, the means of production had the most impact on the economy. Now, the government doesn't need to control means of production to drastically impact the economy, They use more sofisticated tools like interest rates, repo rates, excessive money printing, national debt...etc to control the economy. By that logic, we're already socialist 😅
Well i think i got more explanation of it in this comment than from her. Not really sure she understands it this well too.
I don't get y eff is confusing communism and socialism. And they so confident in their nonsense 😢. Communism and socialism they r not the same. They 2 different things.
They know communism doesn't work so they call it socialism, and they get away with because people don't look beyond the political rhetoric. However we cannot let these people take away our economic freedom, political freedom or any other form of freedom.
StopTheCommies!!!
Well the thing is no country has ever been communist because as they say communism is only possible globally not on a nation, what is possible on a nation is socialism which is what the Soviet Union was the USSR is short for union of Soviet socialist republics not communist.
Thanks, Dan for this. As someone in Cape Town I don't know much of the EFF. This has helped alot. Good luck with all your future interviews and keep them coming.
I was hoping for a less combative dialogue and maybe more intellectual/informative 🤦🏾♂️ but thanks anyway Dan you tried bud.
Reminder to self that may assist others: I can still make my point without shouting or raising my voice when conversing with just one person (perhaps adjust this for a rally). There is power in remaining calm while being resolute when communicating your message...especially when you have such a great listener and platform! Sounding emotional makes you sound so much more defensive.
In this case it was indeed emotional. Defending the point instead of rationally taking in criticism or outlining a workaround, or admitting the fact that "I do know everything, I am one person and I am uncertain to how we will do this but it is something we will consider/are considering/ you raise a good point." The whole discussion ended up feeling hollow and sounding shallow as a result.
It shows that this party’s leadership lacks emotional intelligence 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️. Yes educated but a leader needs to now how to carry out conversations. This is not parliament debates. Only needs to communicate the party’s plans clearly. Nope nope they can’t lead.
"We talking about land, where we walk on, our seas and everything..." - I don't think all thoise PhD's they brag about means much
Basically, people without land will remain without land.
They will have access to land from having none. They will keep the proceeds of such economic activity just like you would when you go to work where you are granted temporary access to the factors of production and after giving your labour then you'll get a wage or salary.
You've put it nicely 😂😂
Why does EFF people always sound angry?
bcoz you always expect them to be ,this lady is not sounding or looking angry at all
Ok comrade 😂@user-tf1fq4db9y
lol, you need more black friends in your life buddy.
Nonsense smh that is just your perception. She is not angry in the slightest
You mean why they keep cutting people off?
Don't confuse that with anger. But note that cutting people off is aggressive, so I can see where the view of anger falls in.
Reasons why people cut off other poeple in a conversation is to have control over the conversation, supressing the other person from having interaction.
Which to me is not a good sign for a party.
The state being the custodian of all the land just means that the governing party would control all of the land. Private ownership is a right we all deserve, however people SHOULD be limited to how much land they own.
no
Fuck No
Ja - that is the only thing - I do believe a limit should be placed on land ownership per person. But yes - governments should have no place in controlling people's daily lives and owning everything including land is wrong and shows their greed. The same thing happened in Zimbabwe! They took the land but never gave over 90% (if not more) to people. They kept it because all it was was a voting ploy. 95% unemployment today and people entertain these communist ideas. It's madness. They must wake up. Otherwise it's them who will be the ones to suffer. Not me. I'll simply be gone. But I want to help my fellow South African of all races. But I won''t live under a bunch of thugs - that's for sure (the ANC are bad but the EFF are simply the ANC on steroids that's all). And here's the kicker as well - the EFF make out like land is the biggest issue. They must answer this:
1. Why do they want land that is already making food for the country for all the people? They'll mess it up. With that said - the government owns vast tracks of arable unused land already!!!! Because land reform, which the EFF don't like to say, has already largely happened. The land restitution process - many many white farmers did sell the land to the government but 90% of the claimants took the money, Therefore the land is now vacant government land. So why not take that land and build up emerging black farmers on that land?
2. Ask them why do you want to pursue socialist and communist ideals when it worked nowhere else on this planet. God we have a country to the north of us that pursued it and it ended in tears for over 98% of the population black and white.
3. Why is Ekhuruleni the worst run metro in the country when they have major MMC positions there and why were they fighting with the ANC like dogs outside the city hall last week? Do residents want to see that? No all they see is a metro falling to pieces whilst politicians fight for the loot .
Madness people can even think of this racist thieving scum
No they should not be limited tf
@@zerog1037 Well to an extent, yes. Otherwise you end up with a wealthy company/group of citizens/etc owning more land than others
Sadly you did not ask them what have they done / achieved as party for the SA people
Ask the grannies and pensioners of VBS, they'll give South Africans a very clear answer on what the EFF has done for them.
Last year we renovated 10 old age homes and donated R100000 to each,yesterday 03/03/2024 CIC was celebrating his birthday with the Kids from Ivory Park community center,we donated R100000,we will sponsor them with R10000 grocery for the whole year and each child will get new shoes and new school uniforms from the EFF.We have trained pilots from the poor families and just to remind you we are not using taxes because we're not in government as the ruling party.
@@simphiwedlamini8243da does that too,Zuma built a school too,and has donated too what have u done for south africa as a whole for example we have high crime rates what have u done about that we also have illegal immigrants that u want to bring in the country with no jobs smh
@@amogelangselota Please don't lie about the DA, the question was what did the EFF do for South Africans,that's why I mentioned those few things it's more than that I just mentioned the ones where a lot of people benefited,if you are asking about what is EFF is doing about crime ,on that one our MMC in JHB is has introduced a lot of innovation strategies to fight crime in JHB unfortunately it's the crime stats that will indicate if they are making a difference in curbing it or not.
@@simphiwedlamini8243 but i am not lying mos eff is not the only party that donates money
I love how her entire point can be condensed to.
Trust me bro.
I'm confused... who's going to be the custodian of the land???
The state
I think she said the Oppenheimers will be 🤔
Yeah she didn't explain it clearly enough. 🤔
As many have said in these comments, this seemed to be too much of a soapbox. @dan corder, I understand the need to balance being welcoming and to attact these speakers, but you allowed this speaker to roll over you in parts. She spoke over you and left you saying only "yes...", "okay..." or "I understand..." for whole minutes at a time. Attracting these speakers is important, but you are lending them your platform. Your platform has serious value and the price of that is stiff, but fair questioning. You had numerous opportunities to question the facts she put down, to critically address her comments, to bring in data, to create debate. Too often those were missed. I love 90% of your material, but this interview was sadly not part of that group.
You are mad because she spoke sense 😂😂😂😂the platform is not important to us it is to you
😂😂😂 u just mad because she spoke facts,and can’t stand a strong black women speaking and over powering Dan with facts on a white podcast
@@NtsakoMathebula-u3u Boom. Race card.
@@BayiTyhali I would disagree with you on that. I think Dan could have asked more penetrating questions. I would have loved to see her sense backed up with numbers and data. I'm sure she had them, but Dan didn't push her to do that. That's my criticism.
@@stuartdunc100 fair enough, is that how he conducts all his interviews though? Or Isnt the whole point of it that you give people the platform to articulate themselves freely and openly without them feeling like they're not given enough room to do so, what would be the point of having an honest conversation if you're going to dictate how your interlocutor should articulate themselves in responding to your questions?
That was painful
This was hard to listen to - I am absolutely not an EFF supporter but there is a responsibility on me to listen to it to understand both sides.
That being said, she failed to mention the real drawbacks of what she is advocating for.
How land can be freely given to the highest bidder. How people will be expected to pay taxes on the use of land that will never be theirs. How over the 10 years you are loaned the land that you invest money into it and make it more valuable, how that becomes property of the state if they don't renew your lease... she doesn't mention any of this because it's bad PR.
"THE STATE WILL BE THE CUSTODIAN OF THE LAND"
Yes never trust a comrade ❤
Yeah, the state is the custodian to Eskom now and that works perfectly.
Am I the only one that understands her, she made herself clear a number of times. Either Dan didn't understand the land issue from her pov, but it makes perfect sense. It's a working model in Singapore. I trust the EFF, they're the only guys that want the best for the country. Unfortunately the people that need vote are illiterate
This would mean all international investment would pull out of the economy...nail in the coffin. Property value would collapse.
🤨 No one on the EFF had said that
If all land got nationalised, international investment would disappear overnight, never mind the huge risk of loss to any investments they currently have. No one on EFF has to say this, this is common sense. Poor economic performance is obviously tied to nationalism/communism. @@teeanjackson4146
@@teeanjackson4146essentially that's the end result of the eff policy proposals
Did international investment pull out from the "East Asian experience" ...lol do some readings..don't just listen to media controlled by benefactors
Dan: why should RSA trust you with more power than ANC already has/how will you deal with corruption
EFF: Transparency
Also EFF: Why should we declare who our funding donors
are
great transparency 😭👍🏿
100% !!!!!
Please get Sinawo Tambo 🤝 I see people are “acting” confused because of Naledi’s way of explaining. In the the meantime, EFF want Land to be managed by state exactly how China is doing it 🤝
No she is fine dont get anyone else
The Chinese property market has failed or haven't you been watching the news?
@@maxedwards2415we will tske what is working in china and leave whats not
I now see where the EFf is going and I think is the best way to go. It means more employment, less tax, free education and more economic benefits for the country rather than few individuals.
Summary of the first 15 minutes of this interview
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Custodian
I couldnt get through this interview. Dan hardly got a chance to complete a sentence, unfortunately. It makes sense that they contacted the show for an interview, it was an opportunity to campaign and not actually be interviewed.
Malema mentioned the Opperheimers a couple of times in his recent Kaya FM interview and now Naledi is mentioning it again. Are the Oppenheimers (white minority) the main narrative of the EFF or do they have policies that can actually be practically achieved? What impact are these policies going to have on non white land owners? What has the EFF done for citizens as leaders in any form of government? After 30 years of democracy, are we not past these issues of race. I would have hoped that we are now at a stage of trying to save a country together, regardless of race or party.
"Opperheimer" Is the boogieman used to whip up support among the ignorant.
@@FilmDecoded000Oppenheimers own and control the country my stupid brother
Issues of race are here to stay until we're all relatively on plain level field. Otherwise it is still going to haunt us . Just look at the crime levels, it's a sore in our backside. Inequality breeds criminality
30 years my guy I m older then, still very early to forget
Unless you forget about the holocaust and stopp y@pping about is then we won't
What a MAD interview... this insane.
wolves in sheep’s clothing. vote for them if you want ZANU PF in control of this country and the complete collapse of the nation
They paddle whatever is in fashion. They want to run south africa like a spaza shop. There's a lot of land in rural areas (i live in a rural area and its EMPTY), they don't want rural land, they want houses in waterkloof they didn't buy. Sies
Naledi is very clear when she articulate the EFF Manifesto .the EFF Manifesto articulation does not need the mind of rats .
So who is going to pay the banks for land they do not own. The EFF takes my house means I wont pay the bank.
Who will pay the banks when the state really owns it.
Banks collapse and SA is done for.
Summary of the interview: Oppenheimers, speaking over Dan, the State is the guardian of the land, Oppenheimers, speaking over Dan once again, nationalisation; no wait private can be there. Malema did speeches orderly on SABC news, this guy just shouts and speaks over Dan. She did not mention anything on fighting corruption. Dan, if you manage to do so, next time call Malema, Shivambu or Sinawo Thambo.
Land point is a gigantic NO! Can't put that much power to the government and if you worked hard for your assets only makes sense your descendants to benefit.
The ignorant EFF followers think there are golden watches attached to this land that they will suddenly be able to live on. Just like they imagine a job is a thing that is conjured up and pays lots of money reaped from the trees in the fairy-land grove.
I find it profusely ironic that they don't understand that they will never own anything under EFF rule, while the latter is literally what they are campaigning for.
Yet, Julius undermines the judicial system... So, how does this transparency work?
How did he undermine the Judicial system?
@@MotlokwaThwii have you been watching the news?
@@helenduplessis4166 How did he undermine the Judicial system Helen!!?
Articulate yourself.
@@MotlokwaThwii I don't need to articulate anything. Have a look at the news - have you been living under a rock?
@@helenduplessis4166 So you basically don't know how he undermined the judiary neh?? Why would you make such a baseless statement then Helen? Malema is giving you nightmares neh? He turns to have such an effect on dumb racists. We understand.
“You will own nothing and be happy” 😂
We will you are nothing
@@BayiTyhali In the transitive properties of what you are saying, you are also nothing.
Land expropriation only benefits the state. Specifically, the government in power
A government should serve an administrative role only in my opinion.
A democratic government should not be an all-powerful, all deciding, all owning government that limits the opportunities of its people.
Not allowing people to buy and sell land under their own free will controls where people can or cannot live and work..... food for thought
The idea of a government having all the power is unsettling.
It is unlikely that any farmer will make the agricultural investments required for reasonably productive farming if the land can be taken away tomorrow.
how if you have the lease
@@SiboneloThokozani Maybe, if the lease spans a lifetime. But then again, what if the farmer proves useless within a few months? Then we are sitting with all that land dormant for 99 years.
Because vele they were about themselves to begin with.
Unpopular opinion: Generational farms are better because they create more value I their product and have Generational knowledge to maintain the farmland
just yoh. good luck to any province run by the eff. Also, maybe get an economist in the party to teach ya'll some basics about the economy.
Witch qualifications do you possess, because the lady speaking here is way more qualified than you'll ever be
@@BayiTyhali She needs to get a refund, the University she went to didn't do their job correctly.
@@BayiTyhali She has a degree in Arts for goodness sake. Any idiot could see what she is saying would kill the economy.
@@BayiTyhaliare u some kind of propaganda bot, I've seen you reply so much but I've yet to see you make sense
@resphantom articulate why you say she must get a refund based on the things she is saying...I know you can never make that argument. Blody fool
First ever listen to your podcast,Dan you are really good. I am subscribing
This chick is a perfect representative of the EFF - speaking with total confidence about a “solutions” when there is ZERO substance to what she’s saying. Anyone who votes EFF is doing it purely along racial lines and is voting based on emotions.
One thing i like about the EFF is that education becomes the order of the day and i have no doubt that with this kind of mentality they can execute their plans very well,unlike the ANC where cader deployment cadership is an order of the day.🙄
If I had R10 for each time she said "The state is the custodian of the land." I would be the richest man in South Africa. 😂
My initial problem was that I wanted someone who talked a certain way to represent these issues and hated how She came on the show and gave what I thought was a more emotional attempt at convincing than a calm rational approach. But then I watched the video a few times and realized there is a language disconnect here and that's the problem. She doesn't debate fluently in English and her prefared method of representing the Eff's policies and ideas is very different from the debates that are normally had in this channel.
But maybe that was wrong for me to demand that from her. The majority of South African are not British Parliamentary style debating champions. English is a second language for most of us. If you listen to what she says and not how she says it she killed this.
Nope she killed it either way😂😂😂you wanted her to speak like a English. Man ....speaking like a British man is not important
Never trust a comrade ❤
Why are you giving nonsense speakers airtime?
Agreed, she's a crowd puller. Not a debator
Because its always good to hear what the other parties have planned.
Nomatter how insufferable the tend to be.
@@Galaxyeyez It's never okay to provide a platform for those who propagate potentially harmful misinformation.
@@the_antiquark And I get that I truly do.
I'm just saying if we're gonna disagree with them it's best to get to know what it is they stand for. If that makes sense.
This interview highlights the importance of education.
Eish..
Dan did a better job of promoting the EFF than this lady
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Love her videos, she isn't scared to stand up and talk about the lies our government and others spout at times
@@elnino530 I agree!
She made me understand what the EFF stand for and made it clearer. I tend to like the EFF plans but media keep spreading propaganda