The weight is a no go if it was an alluminum frame it would be nice granted the extra weight has its advantages but that little sucker is just as heavy as a zx6r or a ninja 650..everything that brings love to the little 400 hundreds is lost in this bike its a no brainer in america the zx4r doesnt have a market in the united stated
@@jasondavis4421 yeah but guys lime me 135lbs is not issue, not to mention plenty of stock stuff can be junked and get it lighter but still has 80hp, for street i had ninja 600 had more power than you can use on street 90% of time
@@HesterEdition i think it wont be that much, but im not sure if it uses the same engine as the new Eliminator have. Or they revived and tweaked the engine from the old EX-500. Cant wait for the 500-4RR comaparisson video! Keep it up!!!
I like the zx4rr, but the dilemma is the same here as it was in 1990 with the Yamaha FZR400 that had a aluminum delta box frame and swingarm and not costing much less than the FZR600, the FZR400 was around for 3 year's or so & cut. I'd like to see this zx4rr succeed, wish they could have given it a aluminum frame with a removable tail section, other than that, I like what it brings to the table.
to put it in perspective, in Australia and New Zealand, where we have LAMS approved bikes for learner riders, the Ninja 650 is LAMS approved and the ZX-4RR is not and for that matter, the ZX-25R also makes more peak power than the Ninja 400, engine displacement isn't everything, sport vs. super sport
46.33 hp for the Ninja 400. 51.9 hp for the zx400rr. Yes, you can flash the ecu and get the hp claimed by Kawasaki, but then your warranty is out the window. I will be purchasing the 400KRT.
We falsh vehicles all the time and never had an issue from Kawi :) I point the finger at the dealers TBO not liking warranty work and give any excuse. Kawi ROCKS when it comes to backing their products!
Most people say it's better to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow... But there is also one thing it's better to pay less for a low speed bike than an over priced low speed bike 😂
🤣 you are not wrong! The ZX4 is really for a class specific racing TBH, I don't think I would personally buy it as a daily, I would do a Ninja 650 for a daily, cheap insurance, great on gas, great torque, and just a fun all around bike, the ninja 400 is also a great option for that as well for less money. OR, personally, I would fork out a few grand more and roll out a ZX6R over the ZX4R, but that ZX4 fully uncorked would be a super fun track day bike!
Nothing you do to a bike will void the warranty, cases are a case by case deal, and if you had a failure would have to be a direct result of the modification for a claim not to pass
In terms of size does it look like the zx-4rr is much bigger? I'm looking for my first motorcycle I went to the dealership and tried ninja 400 and it was a perfect size for me (im 16yo 5'2) its not really a big difference in terms of pricing between the zx-4rr and the ninja 400 so I thought of getting the zx-4rr but Im not sure if it's larger than the ninja 400 (im a small person) though they dont have zx-4rr instock in my local dealership i need to drive 1 hour to santa fe to check out the zx-4rr.
The zx4rr is a little wider in the engine area, but seat height is about the same so size no they are very close. The zx4rr does weight a little bit more but all that potential more than makes up for it, the zx is well over 3 grand more than a Ninja 400 so it does cost considerably more, but all that tech, the brakes, the engine, everything about it more than makes the cost difference. The zx is very special. It is a choice YOU want. Do you want a fun practical bike? Or do you want a race bike that is more rare, and are you willing to spend that extra chunk of cash for it.
@@HesterEdition Thanks for your comment it helps me a lot. I'm near Santa Fe New Mexico It is about 1 hr drive I live in New Mexico Albuquerque. I think I'm gonna get the Zx-4rr I just like the sound of the 4 inline engine and it's features. But I don't know how much it's gonna cost overall with the fees like tax, registration, destination charge, dealership charge, etc.(I only have around $10k)
@stewwey4059 NM motorcycle fees are $21 registration and 4% tax. Let us know! A short drive farther we have one and I'll make your drive worth while. I know our freight, set up and doc fees are much lower than Santa Fe too! And Kawi has great financing right now too
My friend all ZX-4RR's come detuned from the factory with only 53 horsepower not the claimed 80 horsepower that you said. Secondly the frame on the ZX-4RR is made of steel not aluminum. If you're going to make UA-cam videos you need to get all your facts straight.
Noted, made a simple mistake on frame material, and Kawi has the HP numbers with the ram air posted, just took it from them. Edit: I did update the description along with dyno numbers once the US restrictions in the ECU are flashed, pretty sick gains to the wheel, more so than claimed. Kawi only talks crank HP, he has that thing at 70 to the ground no ram air, all stock. Makes me want one even more lol
Dude ecu flash it is like 73 at rear wheel. I can lose 30lbs fast and pretty cheap. Slip on better sound lighter than stock fender eliminator, aluminum fir 20 bucks, have bent cut drilled at metal shop have done before lighter less than 100 bucks. Mock up in card board and metal shop can take 1ft by 1ft aluminum and make custom eliminator. Rip out huge air box and use k and n filters more weight gone. Remove any tools or other truly useless crap stock stuff. I had 8t original 600 ninja, 70 hp a few piunds havier much peakier power, was good city bike and 135 mph top end still a blast. This 400 light yrs ahead in suspension brakes tires, little fasyer better handler. Most newer 600s rarely use the piwer they have. Hp over 100 on street is mire ego than used. Ridden for 40 plus yrs, this new zx4rr with little money so.e elbow grease will be more fun than my 2008 6r was i know from riding bikes from rd350s to zx10s, in real world for me 135 lbs this bike is perfect fast enough to kill me insurance low but hang with 650 twins but rev out as it is a four. Just my opinion but rode yrs with liter bike ridets and never needed anything more tham my 6r until top end runs
Depends on the track and skill of both riders, long straights where the massive power advantage comes into play no question the H2 will win, but tight, it will be an awesome dog fight. But, you put a pro on the 4R and the average Joe on the H2 I have seen this scenario with just the Ninja 400 and that 400 was walking the H2 lap after lap. Rider plays the biggest factor. Heck, I personally lapped guys on 250 and 450 motocross bikes (Motocross track), and I was on my wife's KLX125 putt putt trail bike in the early 2000's.
@@HesterEdition the sounds i have heard online remind me of my first real street bike 75 honda 400 four super sport back early 80s. Had 4 into one yoshimura header, was sweet at 10000 rpm redline 😄😁😆
If you watch Yammie noobs track review on 4rr vs 400, it isn’t destroying the n400 surprisingly But only do to how neutered it is for U.S. out the crate. Needs an ecu flash to reveal its fangs. I have a krt n400 and love it, spent time on my bros ‘23 zx6r and respect it, and still I’ve been drooling over this 4rr since day 1😅
I just got my zx4rr and its a delight. Progressive counts these two bikes at the same bike. NOBODY. SAY. NOTHIN'!
AWESOME! Good to know, then insurance is dirt cheap than!
I got the year sewed up before they notice. $408 for the whole 12mos, baby!!! It's nice, not being a criminal.
Wow such a heavy bike and the internet exploded cause the bike clearly was made for a market that cant get zx6r
The weight is a no go if it was an alluminum frame it would be nice granted the extra weight has its advantages but that little sucker is just as heavy as a zx6r or a ninja 650..everything that brings love to the little 400 hundreds is lost in this bike its a no brainer in america the zx4r doesnt have a market in the united stated
@@jasondavis4421 yeah but guys lime me 135lbs is not issue, not to mention plenty of stock stuff can be junked and get it lighter but still has 80hp, for street i had ninja 600 had more power than you can use on street 90% of time
Just got my zx4 and love it
Awesome!
Such a well done in-depth comparison, been waiting for this. Thank you!
Thank you, few mistakes on a couple things being in a hurry lol.
This is the most detailed comparison I watched between the two bikes. Thank you sir
Thank you!
Great side by side comparison, and great aspect ratio size for video!! 4RR is really quite something special!!
Thank you! Now we have to do a video showing the all new Ninja 500, see how that closes the gap on the ZX4RR.
@@HesterEdition i think it wont be that much, but im not sure if it uses the same engine as the new Eliminator have. Or they revived and tweaked the engine from the old EX-500. Cant wait for the 500-4RR comaparisson video! Keep it up!!!
such a great explaining
Thank you for watching 😁
Nice review.Thanks💯😊
Thank you for watching!
Very good comparison
Good to know all that information thanks. Never owned one but interested in one someday
Both lots of fun, I'm thinking on adding the ZX4 to my line, love it!
Can't go wrong with a Kawi! Nina's, Z's, Versy's, H2's, all so well built and tons of fun!
I like that green one. White one looks good too
Zx-4rr🔥
Got to ride one of the ZX4RR with just the ecu flashed... dang near bought one lol. Was SOO fun!!
I like the zx4rr, but the dilemma is the same here as it was in 1990 with the Yamaha FZR400 that had a aluminum delta box frame and swingarm and not costing much less than the FZR600, the FZR400 was around for 3 year's or so & cut.
I'd like to see this zx4rr succeed, wish they could have given it a aluminum frame with a removable tail section, other than that, I like what it brings to the table.
For sure!
to put it in perspective, in Australia and New Zealand, where we have LAMS approved bikes for learner riders, the Ninja 650 is LAMS approved and the ZX-4RR is not
and for that matter, the ZX-25R also makes more peak power than the Ninja 400, engine displacement isn't everything, sport vs. super sport
Yup, just how a KX 85 motocross dirt bike is more powerful than a klx230 trail dirt bike. Wish we had the ZX25 here in the states, would be so fun.
Thanks for not starting them so we can hear that 4 banger
You can hear numerous sound clips on UA-cam, the ZX was not sold and we do not service a bike until sold.
Insurance for these 4RR's are insane!
zx4rr very popular in the philippines, the scream of inline 4
For sure!
Zx4rr if I had the money
46.33 hp for the Ninja 400. 51.9 hp for the zx400rr. Yes, you can flash the ecu and get the hp claimed by Kawasaki, but then your warranty is out the window. I will be purchasing the 400KRT.
We falsh vehicles all the time and never had an issue from Kawi :) I point the finger at the dealers TBO not liking warranty work and give any excuse. Kawi ROCKS when it comes to backing their products!
@@HesterEdition That's good to hear. Our Kawasaki dealer out here has been very good to us and that's why we keep comin back.
depens ln where you're from. here 51hp ninja 400 and 80 hp zx4rr stock
@@Junkfiles446where is that?
Will there be other colorways from the ZX4RR? Would probably sell more if they didn't stick to KRT
an RR will always be racing colors. You can always wrap it or paint it :) Besides, NOTHING is better than Kawi Green! lol
Just wait till 2024 they will offer it in metallic black and Kurt color as well its on they're site already just not image yet
Most people say it's better to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow... But there is also one thing it's better to pay less for a low speed bike than an over priced low speed bike 😂
🤣 you are not wrong! The ZX4 is really for a class specific racing TBH, I don't think I would personally buy it as a daily, I would do a Ninja 650 for a daily, cheap insurance, great on gas, great torque, and just a fun all around bike, the ninja 400 is also a great option for that as well for less money. OR, personally, I would fork out a few grand more and roll out a ZX6R over the ZX4R, but that ZX4 fully uncorked would be a super fun track day bike!
If you flash the ECU does that void the warranty?
Nothing you do to a bike will void the warranty, cases are a case by case deal, and if you had a failure would have to be a direct result of the modification for a claim not to pass
In terms of size does it look like the zx-4rr is much bigger? I'm looking for my first motorcycle I went to the dealership and tried ninja 400 and it was a perfect size for me (im 16yo 5'2) its not really a big difference in terms of pricing between the zx-4rr and the ninja 400 so I thought of getting the zx-4rr but Im not sure if it's larger than the ninja 400 (im a small person) though they dont have zx-4rr instock in my local dealership i need to drive 1 hour to santa fe to check out the zx-4rr.
The zx4rr is a little wider in the engine area, but seat height is about the same so size no they are very close. The zx4rr does weight a little bit more but all that potential more than makes up for it, the zx is well over 3 grand more than a Ninja 400 so it does cost considerably more, but all that tech, the brakes, the engine, everything about it more than makes the cost difference. The zx is very special. It is a choice YOU want. Do you want a fun practical bike? Or do you want a race bike that is more rare, and are you willing to spend that extra chunk of cash for it.
And near Santa Fe NM? Or Texas? We are not far from Santa Fe in New Mexico, and have a ZX4RR on the floor. Would be happy to get you out on one.
@@HesterEdition Thanks for your comment it helps me a lot. I'm near Santa Fe New Mexico It is about 1 hr drive I live in New Mexico Albuquerque. I think I'm gonna get the Zx-4rr I just like the sound of the 4 inline engine and it's features. But I don't know how much it's gonna cost overall with the fees like tax, registration, destination charge, dealership charge, etc.(I only have around $10k)
@stewwey4059 NM motorcycle fees are $21 registration and 4% tax. Let us know! A short drive farther we have one and I'll make your drive worth while. I know our freight, set up and doc fees are much lower than Santa Fe too! And Kawi has great financing right now too
Sorry but the frame on the 4RR is Steel not Aluminum, hence the weight.
You are correct, made a mistake on material. Thank you for the correction.
My friend all ZX-4RR's come detuned from the factory with only 53 horsepower not the claimed 80 horsepower that you said.
Secondly the frame on the ZX-4RR is made of steel not aluminum.
If you're going to make UA-cam videos you need to get all your facts straight.
Noted, made a simple mistake on frame material, and Kawi has the HP numbers with the ram air posted, just took it from them. Edit: I did update the description along with dyno numbers once the US restrictions in the ECU are flashed, pretty sick gains to the wheel, more so than claimed. Kawi only talks crank HP, he has that thing at 70 to the ground no ram air, all stock. Makes me want one even more lol
Dude ecu flash it is like 73 at rear wheel. I can lose 30lbs fast and pretty cheap. Slip on better sound lighter than stock fender eliminator, aluminum fir 20 bucks, have bent cut drilled at metal shop have done before lighter less than 100 bucks. Mock up in card board and metal shop can take 1ft by 1ft aluminum and make custom eliminator. Rip out huge air box and use k and n filters more weight gone. Remove any tools or other truly useless crap stock stuff. I had 8t original 600 ninja, 70 hp a few piunds havier much peakier power, was good city bike and 135 mph top end still a blast. This 400 light yrs ahead in suspension brakes tires, little fasyer better handler. Most newer 600s rarely use the piwer they have. Hp over 100 on street is mire ego than used. Ridden for 40 plus yrs, this new zx4rr with little money so.e elbow grease will be more fun than my 2008 6r was i know from riding bikes from rd350s to zx10s, in real world for me 135 lbs this bike is perfect fast enough to kill me insurance low but hang with 650 twins but rev out as it is a four. Just my opinion but rode yrs with liter bike ridets and never needed anything more tham my 6r until top end runs
Iam sorry but no h2r is gunna lose on a track to a ninja 400 just on the straights alone will close the gap
Depends on the track and skill of both riders, long straights where the massive power advantage comes into play no question the H2 will win, but tight, it will be an awesome dog fight. But, you put a pro on the 4R and the average Joe on the H2 I have seen this scenario with just the Ninja 400 and that 400 was walking the H2 lap after lap. Rider plays the biggest factor. Heck, I personally lapped guys on 250 and 450 motocross bikes (Motocross track), and I was on my wife's KLX125 putt putt trail bike in the early 2000's.
No contest zx4rr much better, faster, and suspended better.
Oh and sound is not even worth mentioning
Oh yeah, on a track or outright performance that ZX4RR is amazing, and the sound of this thing uncorked and piped just gets the soul tingling 😆
@@HesterEdition the sounds i have heard online remind me of my first real street bike 75 honda 400 four super sport back early 80s. Had 4 into one yoshimura header, was sweet at 10000 rpm redline 😄😁😆
If you watch Yammie noobs track review on 4rr vs 400, it isn’t destroying the n400 surprisingly But only do to how neutered it is for U.S. out the crate. Needs an ecu flash to reveal its fangs. I have a krt n400 and love it, spent time on my bros ‘23 zx6r and respect it, and still I’ve been drooling over this 4rr since day 1😅