Excellent, highly interesting video Tom - thanks for putting this out when you’re undoubtedly tired from feeling unwell. I bet you were glad to get off that roof - looked really freezing! I remember once doing some work on a roof in similar conditions and the only good part was getting off it!
Hi Tom, some nice jobs there, the 1972 cylinder will make for a nice weigh in, it will be nice thick copper. Bungalows and airlocks can be a pain to sort on some occasions, I have struggled with them in the past. I hope you are now feeling better, it’s not nice working in the cold 🥶 when you are feeling under the weather. Hope this week is better for you, as always take care mate. 👍👍👍
Thanks for the support as always Chris, it was a nice weighty cylinder, it didn't have too much scale in either which surprised me. I'm feeling much better now, hoping I will be able to catch up with some jobs this week
@@PlumbLikeTom I bought in around £8k of copper tube on 15 and 22mm around 3 years ago. You seen the prices recently? Ouch! @02:55 One more turn, Del Boy. Luv it! By this time next year bruv, we'll be millionaires. Chards. Blackpool.
Good video again tom. Had the same problem in our bungalow with three radiators not working. Cost me 70 quid callout and he just turned other rads off and blasted the others. We live and learn. (Not a plumber).
You will know for next time mate, every now and then systems pick up a bit of air, it always collects in the high spot which in bungalows can stop certain rads working, thanks for watching as always
What a busy week Tom, and some real plumbing classics, air is a nightmare in those open vent systems, I’ve spent ages getting rid of it over the years, tidy work as always, hope your feeling better ,and take care 👍🚽
Hi Tom.. Another great video…. I used to love boiler installations with MI pipe. That second part of the video… the state of that cylinder… 1972🙈.. tidy install. The old 3/4 copper we used to use as you know green rings👍
A great vid, as always, Tom. I think you were completely in the right to not drill a hole or otherwise bodge a system from new. It should not be on you to make a faulty piece of equipment (either as sold or by design) good when it is supposed to work, as is.
Another cracking video Tom. I've been removing some ancient Elson combination tanks lately, what a pain in the bum they are to get out of cupboards when they've been mounted on a plinth 🤦. I was amazed that old cylinder had lasted as long as it had, 52 years, wow! Nice bit of luck getting getting that street elbow to line up on the top of the cylinder Tom, sometimes we need a bit of luck. Keep up the great work mate.
Crispy Day there Tom 😂⛄️ Not sure if you know this we used to do a lot of oil boilers a few years ago and we would set them up at 5% 02 and would usually give almost perfect combustion anyway just a little tip that might help you in the future 😎👍🤜
Thanks for the support Tony, I always used to aim for 34% on my excess air, I find some of the newer boilers like a higher co2 so you have to drop that a bit, I know some guys who won't set the co2 to 12.5 as it states in instructions though
I was annoyed to be honest, they have sorted it now but I had to go through my merchants, I told them I wasn't paying for a faulty boiler, they soon got it sorted, thanks for the support as always mate
Good job mate feel your pain done a cylinder myself on Friday, Christ went through press, compression and solder fittings so much imperial pipe 😂 then the airlocks were atrocious no air vents fitted on a vented oil boiler 😢
There is nothing worse than an air lock, I remember my old mate showing me a way to clear them, I wouldn't show it here but he took the stat out of a boiler and it boiled the air straight up the vent, cleared it straight away, thanks for watching Andy
On a balanced flue you should measure the incoming air temperature at the snorkel next to the burner, because it will be heated by the exhaust gases. It will be a lot warmer than the 2C outside temperature. BTW, do drill that hole. It's a problem that has raised its head every now and then. Some lads pull the cell back a half inch as a temporary measure. ---ooops. I posted my comments before I got to the part in the vid where you said a FB tech came out to it.
Thanks for the support mate, I didn't realise you had to measure the temperature at the snorkel, firebird did ask me if I had set the co2, I told them I had set it to 11.8 which they said sounded fine. Looking at the engineers report he set it up again anyway so it should be fine, thanks for watching Walter
Great video as usual Tom. Just like yourself done a like for like swap to save costs and time. Not a bad boiler in all fairness, the low level condensate can be an awkward factor, hence not as common as some makes, but still made with 4 ports which is handy. Top man for standing your ground on drilling the 4mm hole in the blast tube, why? If it's needed the manufacturer would of engineered that in the design. Whole new suite of spares for the Elco burners to carry on the van though.
The condense is a bit to low I think, most jobs you woule need a pump, other than that they seem decent. I can't understand why they haven't dealt with the issue with the burners, thanks for watching as always Mark
The old ones are probably better than the new ones, I haven't done an Essex flange in a while, I used to do loads when I first started out, thanks for watching mate
make sure you take some vitamin C and D tom, keeps the bugs at bay. had bit snow! not had any here in essex. i'm 3 yrs older than that tank, i got that falling apart feeling to 😂😂
Thanks for the support as always Pete, the snow came and went pretty quickly luckily, I need to look into getting some vitamins, I'm not one for taking pills or tablets normally but I'm sure vitamins could help me stay well
@ need to get my winter tyre on van ready! if you never tried them, they are lifesaver in snow or ice. loved the one more turn rodney comment, made me chuckle.
O heck Tom.not good when your not feeling to good 😦. Nice boiler swap even better when things line up. Don't like the idea of having to drill a 4 mm hole in the new boiler. Sounds like a manafautring error. If you had drilled a hole in the boiler it could have voided the warranty. Nice cylinder install job . Just a sod with the air locks. Can't believe you have not got a 22mm olive cutter 😂😂😂. Have to put one on your Xmas list 😊. Hope you feel better soon.👍👍
I bet wonder where the times gone Keith, when I look at old stiff like that I sometimes wonder if the plumber who put it in is still alive, thanks for the support as always mate
We used to get all our copper from Rhodesia which was a British colony, around that time they became an independent country (Zimbabwe) so copper prices soared, there were multiple products bought out but YTW was an alternative, you couldn't bend it as it was so thin, thanks for watching mate
Just remember work life balance Tom been like you years ago and stress takes hold eventually it hits you when you are laid in hospital realising its only money.
It is busy at the minute, I am having the weekends off but had a couple of call outs on Sunday, it is tough to turn work down if it's for a good customer
@ I’ve had a few rotted out after 10 years but I agree. Horses for courses mate. Recent total refurb of a house wanted vented cylinder with whole house pump
Tom get some Halls mentho- lyptus down ya they in the black tube, back in the joiners shop years ago we had an oil fired boiler with vents on top blowing hot air to circulate around the work shop, if one of us got a sore throat we all had it, we used to get through a pack a day each every winter until your throat got better,, have you tried fingerless gloves to keep the cold out mate? another great video you are a real grafter, well done
Thanks for the support as always mate, I hate having a sore throat, I'm about over it now luckily, I will look into getting some fingerless gloves, I hate wearing gloves normally as the restrict my movement
Another brilliant one Tom 👍
Thanks for the support as always Brian
Excellent, highly interesting video Tom - thanks for putting this out when you’re undoubtedly tired from feeling unwell.
I bet you were glad to get off that roof - looked really freezing! I remember once doing some work on a roof in similar conditions and the only good part was getting off it!
Thanks for the support as always Steve, it was freezing, I never got warm all day, and I felt like crap, another day in paradise
Your a very naughty boy leaving a bung on a vent....😮....no-one is infallible...good vid bud
I found my extra bung on vent that someone else had left, to my knowledge I don't think I've ever left one on, thanks for the support as always mate
Hi Tom, some nice jobs there, the 1972 cylinder will make for a nice weigh in, it will be nice thick copper.
Bungalows and airlocks can be a pain to sort on some occasions, I have struggled with them in the past.
I hope you are now feeling better, it’s not nice working in the cold 🥶 when you are feeling under the weather.
Hope this week is better for you, as always take care mate. 👍👍👍
Thanks for the support as always Chris, it was a nice weighty cylinder, it didn't have too much scale in either which surprised me. I'm feeling much better now, hoping I will be able to catch up with some jobs this week
@@PlumbLikeTom I bought in around £8k of copper tube on 15 and 22mm around 3 years ago. You seen the prices recently? Ouch!
@02:55 One more turn, Del Boy. Luv it!
By this time next year bruv, we'll be millionaires.
Chards. Blackpool.
Thanks for the support as always mate, copper prices are high ish at the minute, they seem to change daily
@@PlumbLikeTom All metals prices change daily. POA. Price on arrival. Purchase, scrap and investment metals.
Good video again tom. Had the same problem in our bungalow with three radiators not working. Cost me 70 quid callout and he just turned other rads off and blasted the others. We live and learn. (Not a plumber).
You will know for next time mate, every now and then systems pick up a bit of air, it always collects in the high spot which in bungalows can stop certain rads working, thanks for watching as always
70 call out must be mad why be a qualified engineer to under value the trade and yourself.
Well done Tom, keep up the good work as always
Thanks for the support as always mate 👍
Another great video Tom
What a busy week Tom, and some real plumbing classics, air is a nightmare in those open vent systems, I’ve spent ages getting rid of it over the years, tidy work as always, hope your feeling better ,and take care 👍🚽
Thanks for the support as always Peter, air is a nightmare sometimes, as soon as you see an old system you can just tell it might be trouble
Nice collection of jobs in this one Tom, hopefully you have a straightforward week. 👍
Thanks for the support as always Andy
Hi Tom.. Another great video…. I used to love boiler installations with MI pipe. That second part of the video… the state of that cylinder… 1972🙈.. tidy install. The old 3/4 copper we used to use as you know green rings👍
Thanks for the support as always Steven, it had done well for 52 years, I bet the old one doesn't last that long
A great vid, as always, Tom.
I think you were completely in the right to not drill a hole or otherwise bodge a system from new. It should not be on you to make a faulty piece of equipment (either as sold or by design) good when it is supposed to work, as is.
Thanks for the support Paul, exactly that, if they have a problem they should deal with it
Another cracking video Tom. I've been removing some ancient Elson combination tanks lately, what a pain in the bum they are to get out of cupboards when they've been mounted on a plinth 🤦. I was amazed that old cylinder had lasted as long as it had, 52 years, wow! Nice bit of luck getting getting that street elbow to line up on the top of the cylinder Tom, sometimes we need a bit of luck. Keep up the great work mate.
Thanks for the support as always Rob, we need a bit of luck every now and then, it makes up for it
Crispy Day there Tom 😂⛄️
Not sure if you know this we used to do a lot of oil boilers a few years ago and we would set them up at 5% 02 and would usually give almost perfect combustion anyway just a little tip that might help you in the future
😎👍🤜
Thanks for the support Tony, I always used to aim for 34% on my excess air, I find some of the newer boilers like a higher co2 so you have to drop that a bit, I know some guys who won't set the co2 to 12.5 as it states in instructions though
Fantastic as always Tom 👍😎 ONE MORE TURN DEL BOY 😁😁😁😁 classic!
I was expecting to come down and find the other boiler flue on the floor, thanks for watching as always Pb
@@PlumbLikeTom 😂😂😂
Nice work Tom see you on Friday Tom have a good week 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the support as always Tom, have a great week mate
Thanks again for the video Tom I enjoyed the content , again look after yourself mate take care!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the support as always Barry
Mickey Mouse that from firebird. Fancy telling you to drill a hole in a brand new boiler burner. Great job Tom.
I was annoyed to be honest, they have sorted it now but I had to go through my merchants, I told them I wasn't paying for a faulty boiler, they soon got it sorted, thanks for the support as always mate
Good job mate feel your pain done a cylinder myself on Friday, Christ went through press, compression and solder fittings so much imperial pipe 😂 then the airlocks were atrocious no air vents fitted on a vented oil boiler 😢
There is nothing worse than an air lock, I remember my old mate showing me a way to clear them, I wouldn't show it here but he took the stat out of a boiler and it boiled the air straight up the vent, cleared it straight away, thanks for watching Andy
Well done Tom good content as usual hope you get better soon
Thanks for the support as always John
Good call not drilling the boiler , you could have ended up having the nick name " Tom the driller warranty Killer"😅😂
True that, thanks for the support mate
That roof looks bloody cold mate.
It was flipping freezing Tom, my feet felt like ice, thanks for the support as always mate
I remember it well working outside most winters, not much fun.
It's not good when you get cold and wet, thanks for the support as always Dave
On a balanced flue you should measure the incoming air temperature at the snorkel next to the burner, because it will be heated by the exhaust gases. It will be a lot warmer than the 2C outside temperature. BTW, do drill that hole. It's a problem that has raised its head every now and then. Some lads pull the cell back a half inch as a temporary measure. ---ooops. I posted my comments before I got to the part in the vid where you said a FB tech came out to it.
Thanks for the support mate, I didn't realise you had to measure the temperature at the snorkel, firebird did ask me if I had set the co2, I told them I had set it to 11.8 which they said sounded fine. Looking at the engineers report he set it up again anyway so it should be fine, thanks for watching Walter
Looked 🥶 Tom, look after yourself marra.
Thanks for the support as always Charles
Fantastic 😊
Thanks for the support as always Ross
Tom curious why you didn’t reuse existing black iron and the double wall vent pipe on the commercial boiler job.
Thanks for watching Paul, I did reuse the black iron, but I never reuse flue pipe as I'm always worried the seals might fail before the boiler.
Great video as usual Tom. Just like yourself done a like for like swap to save costs and time. Not a bad boiler in all fairness, the low level condensate can be an awkward factor, hence not as common as some makes, but still made with 4 ports which is handy. Top man for standing your ground on drilling the 4mm hole in the blast tube, why? If it's needed the manufacturer would of engineered that in the design. Whole new suite of spares for the Elco burners to carry on the van though.
The condense is a bit to low I think, most jobs you woule need a pump, other than that they seem decent. I can't understand why they haven't dealt with the issue with the burners, thanks for watching as always Mark
I dont see a date but at home our cylinder is at least 45 years . Added an Essex flange about 8 years ago and looked fine .
The old ones are probably better than the new ones, I haven't done an Essex flange in a while, I used to do loads when I first started out, thanks for watching mate
Great video mate 👍
Thanks for watching mate, glad you enjoyed
make sure you take some vitamin C and D tom, keeps the bugs at bay. had bit snow! not had any here in essex. i'm 3 yrs older than that tank, i got that falling apart feeling to 😂😂
Thanks for the support as always Pete, the snow came and went pretty quickly luckily, I need to look into getting some vitamins, I'm not one for taking pills or tablets normally but I'm sure vitamins could help me stay well
@ need to get my winter tyre on van ready! if you never tried them, they are lifesaver in snow or ice. loved the one more turn rodney comment, made me chuckle.
O heck Tom.not good when your not feeling to good 😦.
Nice boiler swap even better when things line up.
Don't like the idea of having to drill a 4 mm hole in the new boiler.
Sounds like a manafautring error.
If you had drilled a hole in the boiler it could have voided the warranty.
Nice cylinder install job . Just a sod with the air locks.
Can't believe you have not got a 22mm olive cutter 😂😂😂.
Have to put one on your Xmas list 😊.
Hope you feel better soon.👍👍
Thanks for the support as always John, I've never got round to getting a 22mm olive cutter, I've had my 15mm one since I started plumbing
@@PlumbLikeTomdon’t worry Tom I’ve never got round to getting a pair of 22mm olive cutters either 😂.
1972 i was 11 years old not even thinking i was going to be a plumber
I bet wonder where the times gone Keith, when I look at old stiff like that I sometimes wonder if the plumber who put it in is still alive, thanks for the support as always mate
Why would they have thin copper was there a shortage in old days? Seen balancing valve on either the flow or return on the cyclinder is that needed.
We used to get all our copper from Rhodesia which was a British colony, around that time they became an independent country (Zimbabwe) so copper prices soared, there were multiple products bought out but YTW was an alternative, you couldn't bend it as it was so thin, thanks for watching mate
@PlumbLikeTom Good to know some history, keep up the good work. 👍
Just remember work life balance Tom been like you years ago and stress takes hold eventually it hits you when you are laid in hospital realising its only money.
It is busy at the minute, I am having the weekends off but had a couple of call outs on Sunday, it is tough to turn work down if it's for a good customer
That cylinder did well tbh
It certainly did, 52 years is not bad, thanks for watching as always Andrew
@@PlumbLikeTom I wonder if a new unvented cylinder would do as well???
Does pose a question…. 😂🤣
The cyinder might last on an unvented, but it will have had about 6 expansion vessels and countless prvs and other bits
@ I’ve had a few rotted out after 10 years but I agree. Horses for courses mate.
Recent total refurb of a house wanted vented cylinder with whole house pump
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the support as always Danny
Tom get some Halls mentho- lyptus down ya they in the black tube, back in the joiners shop years ago we had an oil fired boiler with vents on top blowing hot air to circulate around the work shop, if one of us got a sore throat we all had it, we used to get through a pack a day each every winter until your throat got better,, have you tried fingerless gloves to keep the cold out mate? another great video you are a real grafter, well done
Thanks for the support as always mate, I hate having a sore throat, I'm about over it now luckily, I will look into getting some fingerless gloves, I hate wearing gloves normally as the restrict my movement
I definitely wouldn’t press YTW mate.
That was I was thinking as well, I think it would just crush the pipe
🤘😎🤘☕️🫖🍪🎥👍👍
Thanks for the support as always Wayne