Prison was never designed as rehabilitation. They started off as holding while awaiting the disposition of the case and the sentence handed down. Then they were used to punish because some crimes weren't worthy of death penalty or deportation. Only since the 60s or so have they been trying rehabilitation.
Recently read about a cop in England who had a many year relationship and even had a baby to keep his cover. The woman and her family, who welcomed him into the family, where deeply hurt. Don’t know how the child felt. Such a sad story.
@@fireflyastral2639 I’m old and uncool. Don’t know “Spy x Family”. Yeah the real case was very sad. I hope the cop did actually care. Would be so sad if the girlfriend and child were “just part of the job”.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest "Spy x Family" is an anime about a spy who has to construct a fake family for a mission to get close to his target and save the country. His target is very paranoid and only makes regular appearances at school get-togethers for his son. So he needed a child, who was secretly a telepath to get into the school (a very prestigious one at that). He then learned the school would only accept children with two parents, so he quickly married a woman who was also feeling pressure to get married because being unmarried at her age was considered suspicious, and other women had been arrested for it. She's secretly an assassin, who also needed the cover. So a spy accidentally adopts a telepath for a daughter and marries an assassin. No he does not know. Nor does the assassin know. Only the little girl. And she's absolutely here for the drama lol Very good show, found family, surprisingly wholesome.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest “Spy x Family” is a manga/anime series about a spy who has to create a family for a job. He adopts a daughter and then marries a woman without telling either of them he’s a spy. The additional twist is that the now-wife is secretly an assassin herself, and the adopted child can read minds. The whole scenario is really crazy, which was why I never expected a real-life story to play out so similarly.
@marvelprince yes and no. I think the worst someone got was like 15 years and that was the boss of the ring. A few got off Scott free because I lost my cool at one point and nearly killed a dude
When I was a kid I fell into some online predator dens. It really does go beyond the imagination, and if I have a kid I'm definitely monitoring what sites they use.
@@tfordham13 1) who said I wouldn't also teach them. 2) keeping an eye on what sites my kid goes on isn't some kind of prison, it's literally just knowing what sites they go on. I think you might not understand that you can explain things to kids and they can still make mistakes. I have first hand experience in this exact thing.
I once found myself in a predator's den. I get really uncomfortable when people I don't know message me, but I was also a naively innocent and polite kid, so I would reply. I remember a few people messaged me, but one of them was SO intense with everything they said that it brought me close to fear. I never went back to games/websites whose chatrooms felt dangerous
"My cousin was pissed because cops aren't supposed to beat people up" he's about to learn something sad isn't he. Followup: "Who did we catch? [...] clergy, two city councilmen, a state trooper, schoolteachers [...] people you would just trust around kids." Never trust an authority figure around the vulnerable.
@@Scarlet.Octopi good for you that you had fun singing songs about rape apperently. Bit tone deaf to comment that under a post about CSA. TW In my case i got severely abused, including rape, for the 3 years i was at the scouts, which was from ages 6 to 9. I still get flashbacks where i experience what happened again. I get random panic attacks. But hey, at least you had fun singing songs about all that.
@@akimbanguehe3454 the abuse ramped up and they made me believe worse things would happen if i told anyone. I also started repressing and dissociating quite early. I was basicly a zombie at age 7. I barely have any memories from that time. The memories i do have came back later. I have told my parents and friends earlier this year after i was groped in a bar and those memories came flooding back. Prossecution is not an option i think, the scouts disbanded a bit after i was pulled out of the scouts (one of my then friends told them i was being hit and that i had to eat my food in the toilets). I also cant make out the faces in the memories i do have. To be honest considering how damaging remembering the parts i do remember is my therapist and i have decided to not try to uncover more.
12:26 hopefully he keeps his guard up because they probably waiting for him to forget about it so they can catch him off guard, those kind of people don’t play.
I think OP needs to ask the court what the status of the employees and employers at that shut-down bar are, explaining that he was threatened after that day in court. If the court side-eyes OP for not bringing this up when it happened, OP can at least say, “If the people were arrested for crimes, I think my testimony of what happened that day would be relevant if they’re getting parole sometime soon. I just want to make sure that I’m protected, and that probably means making sure the guys from that case aren’t able to schedule a ‘get-together’ which would be in reality ‘their day of revenge’ against me.”
For story 7, it's definitely better that a person who went out to do drugs ever week lost her kids, at least until she gets help and stays sober. That is never an environment you want kids around, so the undercover definitely helped saved their lives in the long run
Problem is, with the US system, there'd be a really high chance the (maybe single) mom doesn't get rehab and instead gets a year or more in jail/prison, which will generally only worsen addictions
But which is better? A mother who struggles with drugs and leaves her kids in the care of a family friend when she's using, or having the kids get split up and placed into foster homes that abuse and rape them (a very real possibility with the way the US foster system is)? Yeah, it could be better for the kids, but it could also be much worse, and there's not a good way of telling in a situation like this.
Once I was a really high-pitched 15yo dude on gaming VCs and got hit on quite a couple times. I had a wide array of trolling options for them, from doing an obvious guy voice / a metal growl to the ones who thought I was a young girl to pretending I was my dad and I was reporting them. Also I was acting like a real asshole when some people hit on me in DMs, just to see what awful shit I could get away with if I dangled the possibility of a nude to them. Also having their Discord account allows me to report them to my country and their country's police if I get it
My uncle ODd in a guest bedroom at his “friend’s” house, while his friend and some other guy were in another room blackout drunk. While I do still feel some bitter feelings to those two that were with my uncle at the time for supporting his addiction, I also know that my uncle made the decision to put himself in that position. I know everyone says it but drugs are seriously dangerous. Even if you think “I’m strong I can handle it, I have nothing to lose,” you do have very much to lose. And you are not stronger than death. You are human. So take care of yourself, remember that your friends and family love you very much. And if you don’t have friends or family around, love yourself until you find someone to love you.
If his "friends" were blackout drunk is it possible they were also addicts and were just friends who were addicts? Obviously I don't know the whole story but just because addicts are friends with other addicts doesn't necessarily mean they're "supporting" their addiction, they're just both people with a disease who get along. Idk just a different perspective. I've had a few family members OD & pass and I've ODed and survived twice before so I know a little about that I guess you could say "lifestyle"
@XthepumpkinqueenxXx Exactly. This person is acting like addicts can't be friends with each other or something and their family member is some innocent person and the people are them are the "bad ones". Lol.
i’ve been watching your content for w couple days now and i genuinely really love your content but thank you for reading out the SA and CP info where to report and how to talk to. many people would just look it over thank you for taking your time to read it out ❤
16:45 I dont think they were originally intended for that in the states. That only happened in the antebellum period thanks to a religious movement advocating for prisoners. Look into the the Auburn system and the Pennsylvania system if you wanna know more, it's cool stuff
Criminal aren’t some other race or species of people, they are just people like everyone else. Except they have committed crimes, which are also purely arbitrary and determined by other people.
In the U.K. a group of women have taken the police force to court. They had children with undercover police officers back in the 1980s when officers infiltrated anti war and anti nuclear weapons groups. A huge mess as the women did not find out the truth until the 2000s. The “fathers “ had bailed out of the relationships in the 1990s and one woman found out the truth by accident when she was trying to get maintenance. The name used by her child’s “father” came back as a person who had died as a baby.
Years ago my uncle was in some serious trouble, I'm 99% sure is girlfriend at the time was an undercover officer. She basically came out of no where, no idea where he would have met her, she was attractive, smart and suppsedly had a good job in the medical field, not the average druggie he usually associated with. She drove an older Nissan Maxima, not necessarily an old junker because it was pretty nice cosmetically, but had some issues like it had been parked up for a while, possibly a drug seizure vehicle?, she gave my cousin a phone and said use it as much as she wanted, some "rich old doctor" was paying for it, when her Maxima broke down she pulled up in a newer Escalade she "borrowed". At one point they all decide to go to and get some food, while my uncle and the woman were inside ordering, my cousin snoops and finds a gun in the console. After a couple months my uncle finally gets caught, and his girlfriend dissappears as quickly as she turned up, family tried to reach out to let her know what happened, but her phones not working, and my cousins free "rich old doctor" phone also stops working, I always thought stuff like that was just in movies, but looking back now I wonder why no one was the least bit suspicious at the time
I don't think anyone knows 100% what undercover cops/agents are or are not allowed to do. They'll tell you they can't use drugs, or do serious harm to people, etc. but wouldn't it make more sense that they say these things, so that when an undercover person ACTUALLY does any of them, it looks as if they CANT be an undercover agent, but that would completely ruin the point. You'd never get deep undercover in drug rings, etc.
Back nefore the Internet took off, my dad was a Postal Investigator. The amount of CP that used to move through the post office was sickening. He was tasked with working with the FBI and local LEO to hunt down people using PO boxes to send and receive this stuff. He did this for over a decade before he basically forced them to take him off those cases. He retired 10 years ago, hadn't worked on a CP case 10 years prior to retirement for a total of 20+ years now and still deals with depression from the sheer amount of CP cases he worked on.
You said in story 7 you hope the mum was only charged with possession or something minor, yeah that's not how it works... Odds are she did more time than the organisers because she would have been charged with conspiracy but without knowing enough to betray someone for a better plea deal. Even worse, being innocent of anything major she may have made the mistake of fighting the charges and ended up in prison for decades from a dozen more charges being piled on as punishment for defending herself.
Entrapment is when an officer outright asks or tells you to do something illegal, then arrests you for it. it's actually fairly rare. They're allowed to imply and beat around the bush, letting you fill in the blanks, but they cannot directly ask or tell you to do something illegal, or if they do at least not charge you for that specific thing.
The criteria for entrapment: It must be the uncovers idea The other person can not Have a predisposition to committing set crime period Anybody who's already committed a felony automatically has a predisposition to breaking the law... That's why a successful entrapment defense is very very rare...
you need to know this prison was never about rehabilitation or even justice it is just retribution, plain and simple otherwise you wouldn't see the contempt politicians and cops have for convicts
Humans are programmed to be disgusted by germs. People see criminals as a social disease. Only a broken society doesn't have any kind of prejudice against convicts. It's just what it is.
@@genericscout5408 politicians have no say on individual cases But they put forth the laws that govern prisons If you watch any mention of prisons or prisoners you would almost taste the disdain they have
@@MrTStat They can't act on the disdain passed adding more time. The quality of the time isn't dependent on the politician. In fact most of the quality is dependant on the other criminals.
I’ve been approached by undercover ATF before: As a 2nd Amendment Enthusiast I belong to multiple gun clubs (outdoor shooting ranges) in my part of the state. You get to know the regulars pretty quickly, and most of them also attend multiple gun clubs. Anyway, after YEARS of going to a club suddenly there’s a new Chevy Malibu with two dudes I’ve never seen before. Haircuts and beards worthy of instagram wearing dressed head to toe like 5.11 (Edit: 5.11 is a brand of tactical themed clothes. This isn’t about their height.) fashion models. They shoot maybe half a magazine then start wandering over to people and fawning over their guns “Hey man, that’s a cool Glock. You ever shot one with a switch on it? Ha ha ha” “Yo dude, that’s a sick AR. It’s a real shame we can’t own the real deal” It was like talking to a pair of Mormon missionaries, but instead of Jesus they wanted to talk about how much they hate the government. (Coincidently, Mormons also hate the government and even had a full blown war with the Army back in the day). Now every Gun Club has its chatty Kathy’s but everything with these two was steered towards automatic weapons and ‘that darn gubberment’ The whole interaction was just so forced and everything they said was just so cloyingly ass-kissing (“You’re such a great shot. I bet you own a lot of big guns. Where do you get your ammo?”) I honestly thought this guy was a faggot hitting on me. Just super uncomfortable so I left “Damn, look at the time. Gotta get going!” “Do you live around here? It’s pretty nice” About two days later it dawned on me that I wasn’t getting flirted with and these guys were trying to entrap me for illegal guns 😂
The problem is, a lot of cops and a lot of pro police people don't consider criminals, drug users, or even the homeless as real people, they are problems and thus they not only are fine with brutal force being used they see it as preferable.
@@SLD-bz9soThey're also all having pre marital intercourse likely too early as well. Also not very biblical. If there's a BF/GF situation they aren't really proper Christians either. And now the movement goes around saying sin don't mean nothing.
For the story about the agent showing their badge and thinking that only happened in the movies; it's important for the agent to establish that they are legitimate law enforcement personnel, and a badge is a good step in that direction. Otherwise, if a random person shows up asking odd questions about a neighbor, a reasonable person might conclude it's something crooked on the part of the person asking questions. I wouldn't want to answer questions about a neighbor's habits or schedule, because that could easily be trying to find a good time to rob the neighbor's house or something similar. Also, whether or not I answered the random questions about a neighbor, I might mention it to the neighbor or in some way ask them about it. If it's made clear that it's legitimate law enforcement, then of course the neighbor would not hear about anything from me. However, if someone is scouting the neighbor's house to rob, looking for a chance to kidnap their children, trying to vandalize their property, or something of that nature; I would want to warn the neighbor in addition to not helping the potential criminal. Showing the badge was a good way to bypass some of those concerns (although if certain questions were asked or an inordinate interest was given to certain things: I would get the name, badge number, and agency of the person and at least check things out... con men sometimes use fake badges).
Story 7 is def rough. I mean if the mother was decent at taking care of the kids, and it would depend what type of drugs she was taking, like weed. Really it wouldnt that be a big deal, and the cops are more assholes here. If she was doing stuff with more hardcore drugs like meth, then its probably a good thing the kids arent around her anymore. Story 10: Might be a bit much, but if the people around dont trust Bob, then Bob’s live is in danger of taking a bullet in the back. No, Prison was designed solely for punishment. Rehabilitation is a more modern concept, the last 50 or so years I’d say. In the US its primary function is still punishment, it does seem like other countries though have tried moving towards more rehabilitation. The US doesnt care about rehabilitation at all. Especially private prisons, where an inmate is just a cash cow part of the system. Your value is only being kept there as long as possible so the prison gets to profit.
the swat officer story, he didn’t take their mom away, their mom took herself away when she decided drugs were more important, they’re not losing a mother, they never had one, they’re gaining a new opportunity, and hopefully they can get there on their feet
Seems like alot of these ''good guys'' cross the line between being undercover to catch criminals to actively collaborating with them and being one of the bad guys themselves, the only difference being they avoid prosecution.
Im from the northern midwest and we had a situation in our county where the police department had a college student working as an informent to get a reduced sentence. The guy ended up getting shot exicution style by the river. I think his name was Andrew Sadek.
Not from the cops perspective and probably not that crazy, but my dad for a while (maybe still is, not sure), was responsible for shutting of gas to people who don't pay their utilities. He owns and frequently wears a Kevlar vest because surprisingly people don't like having their utilities shut off. He does seem to feel sorry for some of the people but he says a lot of them are loaded just still freeloaders. Anyway moving onto the story: he was given an address and told to shut some people down. He goes to the location and the people living there tell him to get the fuck out of there. He says "Listen I got to shut you down" and basically says the routine stuff, as this wasn't a known dangerous site he wasn't wearing his vest. Then one of the guys flashes a badge at him and tells him "Understand yet, leave now" so he gets out of there. He checks the news when he gets home, turns out he went to a place the cops were using as a drug den, and they were about to have a huge drug bust when he went to bust them.
your supposed to arrest someone the moment you have something to arrest them on, if you have enough to arrest them on and dig for more thats entrapment as well.
11:00 hold up, I thought everyone drove with one hand? I've never seen people using two hands unless they are just starting out driving or they're a female.
Prison is absolutely not about rehabilitation, currently in the US it's closer to slavery than anything else. They use prisoners as cheap/free labour so what would be the point of trying to make sure they don't reoffend?
18 y.o. cop girl pretending to be underage to catch predators - I don't understand how exactly did she and her department do that? She is legally adult so whatever anyone said to her is not a crime.
it's enough to prove that they do that to other underage people too. and if they still keep talking like that after she says she is 15, it still counts.
idk if story 5 is real, it at least didnt happen in the USA.... i was wanted by the police for TWO YEARS, i didnt know why, friends didnt know why, family didnt know why. i was actually hiding in closets sometimes when the sherrif, and sometimes feds would show up to my freinds houses. they would NEVER reveal why they wanted me. one day, they got my cell phone number , i picked up, they asked if it was me, i said yes. they said i have to show up to the police station within two days or ill have a warrant out for my arrest. IT TURNS OUT, that they wanted me to snitch on a pedophile, and wanted me to confirm the identity of certain screen names b elonging to my underage friends (i was held back because school transfer, and held back in kindergarden cause my birthday was late in the year and wasnt "really" old enough for first grade. so i was always a year or two older than my friends.... this dude was BORN IN THE 70s!!!!!!. keep in mind, i was born in the 80s, but all my friends were born in the 90s.....so, AT LEAST a ten year difference. they all believed he was my age.
The cops main goal is to catch the big time dealer so all these stories make sense when you think about it. If it wasn't for the big dealer these problems wouldn't be happening
My understanding regarding legality when it comes to being undercover is that they take a similar approach as they do the police. A certain level of immunity is guaranteed, such as not being tried for possession of drugs if you were undercover to help bust a drug ring. Past that you have to prove what you did was necessary for maintaining your identity. This particular instance? Eh... He went a little far in regards to regular limits, but his identity's integrity was in doubt, so some "excessiveness" can be waved off. Legally speaking he was probably in the clear. Something to keep in mind is that there are clear lines that no undercover agent is allowed to cross, and that the full list of those lines is VERY classified. Hard lines, the kind that absolutely no quarter is given on. As long as they don't cross those lines, usually they can get away with it so long as they can prove they had to do it.
Imagine reading about a mother stepping out on her children to do crack & feeling more sorry for the mother having Child Services involved than you do for the kids with a mother who decided to produce children when she’s an addict… rly
I don’t know if you’re able to make tweaks to a video after it’s published, without losing your data for views, comments, etc. If you can make a small change for this video or if you want to reupload these stories many years down the road, you might want a version where any instance of the word “Serious” for story 8 are replaced by “Sirius”. Sirius is the name of the star, that’s the astrology-based name that the undercover cop earned.
Story #1: thank you for keeping the resources. Because eww. Always report if you can make sure you stay safe. Always stay anonymous and make up names is my tip
14:00 yes they deserve to be treated as people, but people in that lifestyle know the risks of accusing someone of being a rat in that world, they got let off easy.
A lot of these stories. I've been the person like my house was wrongfully. Rated by The Fed's 3 separate times along 3 years and we actually had to move because their harassment was so intense because they were so convinced that my dad was a big drug Lord or some s*** Just because the bar he hang out with he would talk with these people apparently and hugged them when leaving, but you would just go to the bar and come back home. They absolutely destroyed our lives. No charges were ever placed or anything, but we literally had to move 3 separate times when they rated they took everything V. HS tapes TV's every f****** thing I was a small child. I learned that I could never have. Anything because I didn't know when the feds were gonna bust it in the middle of the night and take everything but the sheets on my bed. I literally have known kids who have grown up with parents cooking method in another room. No, they're not great. Yes, they have trauma, but most their trauma isn't from family. It's from the rest of society.
I wish parents would teach their kids the dangers of the internet as predators lurk everywhere, even here on youtube. It took the site staff MONTHS before they finally banned a grooming pedo. And the thing is, I witnessed too many underage kids enabling the sick man's behavior; it was honestly disgusting to watch.
I would be too perfect at this job I'm basically faking my whole identity every day plus I have strong devotion to justice plus I'm tiny like a 13 year old child and can act innocent lol
Story 8 was made up, "Sirius Tag" is tongue in cheek for "Serious Tag" which is an AskReddit nerd joke about the OP not tagging the post as "serious" which apparently is free license for dumbassery
The cop the snorted the coke didn't know what him was doing him was scared is why him did so much coke an was not properly trained could have died right away also
See for the swat team story the kids already didn't have a mom. Anyone who knowingly does that amount of drugs isn't a parent. I am saying this with first-hand experience it was better that she got taken away just cause she birthed those kids doesn't mean she was a parent to them. drugs change people so violently that even off the influence they don't remain good people and are very far from being even a parent. Maybe the kids at first will despise having the person that was seemingly their mom taken away from them but as they grow older they will appreciate it. It saved them probably a lifetime worth of therapy. And props to the cop for it
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Prison was never designed as rehabilitation. They started off as holding while awaiting the disposition of the case and the sentence handed down. Then they were used to punish because some crimes weren't worthy of death penalty or deportation. Only since the 60s or so have they been trying rehabilitation.
Recently read about a cop in England who had a many year relationship and even had a baby to keep his cover. The woman and her family, who welcomed him into the family, where deeply hurt. Don’t know how the child felt. Such a sad story.
I thought this was going to be a “Spy x Family” reference, but then it just made me sad when I realized it was actually real
@@fireflyastral2639 I’m old and uncool. Don’t know “Spy x Family”.
Yeah the real case was very sad. I hope the cop did actually care. Would be so sad if the girlfriend and child were “just part of the job”.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest "Spy x Family" is an anime about a spy who has to construct a fake family for a mission to get close to his target and save the country. His target is very paranoid and only makes regular appearances at school get-togethers for his son. So he needed a child, who was secretly a telepath to get into the school (a very prestigious one at that). He then learned the school would only accept children with two parents, so he quickly married a woman who was also feeling pressure to get married because being unmarried at her age was considered suspicious, and other women had been arrested for it.
She's secretly an assassin, who also needed the cover.
So a spy accidentally adopts a telepath for a daughter and marries an assassin. No he does not know. Nor does the assassin know.
Only the little girl. And she's absolutely here for the drama lol
Very good show, found family, surprisingly wholesome.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest “Spy x Family” is a manga/anime series about a spy who has to create a family for a job. He adopts a daughter and then marries a woman without telling either of them he’s a spy. The additional twist is that the now-wife is secretly an assassin herself, and the adopted child can read minds. The whole scenario is really crazy, which was why I never expected a real-life story to play out so similarly.
@@fireflyastral2639 yeah that is a crazy storyline.
I worked undercover in a CP ring. I don't wanna go into details but I am still having trouble sleeping 5 years later
hope you took them down
Can’t imagine what you would’ve seen but I hope you were able to take some monsters off the streets
@marvelprince yes and no. I think the worst someone got was like 15 years and that was the boss of the ring. A few got off Scott free because I lost my cool at one point and nearly killed a dude
@@channelcatfish7862 much respect to you. I don’t know if I would’ve been able to maintain any semblance of cool
You’re a legend, hope those sickos are locked up now
When I was a kid I fell into some online predator dens. It really does go beyond the imagination, and if I have a kid I'm definitely monitoring what sites they use.
No that will make them hate you instead just teach them about what to do
@@tfordham13 1) who said I wouldn't also teach them. 2) keeping an eye on what sites my kid goes on isn't some kind of prison, it's literally just knowing what sites they go on. I think you might not understand that you can explain things to kids and they can still make mistakes. I have first hand experience in this exact thing.
@@BoxOKittens because watching kids on the internet makes them think you don't trust them
@@tfordham13 Once again you've reached odd conclusions and made both assumptions and projections.
I once found myself in a predator's den.
I get really uncomfortable when people I don't know message me, but I was also a naively innocent and polite kid, so I would reply.
I remember a few people messaged me, but one of them was SO intense with everything they said that it brought me close to fear. I never went back to games/websites whose chatrooms felt dangerous
You’re probably my favorite Reddit reader on UA-cam tbh, your voice is actually good and not either nasally or tts keep up the good work!
And he even says his opinion sometimes!
@@thesandguardianofthesand fr, adds to that human aspect that you don’t see very much
rSlash and DarkFluff are a couple more like that, but they don't post as many videos each day as Mark Narrations, who is also a good one.
@jasonhammond4301 mark narrations is good too
@@Lolo-gq3nv Lol, that's why I mentioned him, too
"My cousin was pissed because cops aren't supposed to beat people up" he's about to learn something sad isn't he.
Followup: "Who did we catch? [...] clergy, two city councilmen, a state trooper, schoolteachers [...] people you would just trust around kids." Never trust an authority figure around the vulnerable.
never trust any adult connected to the church.
Yup, i can confirm this. Scouts was a shitty time.
@@Scarlet.Octopi good for you that you had fun singing songs about rape apperently. Bit tone deaf to comment that under a post about CSA. TW In my case i got severely abused, including rape, for the 3 years i was at the scouts, which was from ages 6 to 9. I still get flashbacks where i experience what happened again. I get random panic attacks. But hey, at least you had fun singing songs about all that.
@@sarahmaximajust out of curiosity why didn't you leave earlier? Why 3 years? Have you told anyone or pressed charges?
@@akimbanguehe3454 the abuse ramped up and they made me believe worse things would happen if i told anyone. I also started repressing and dissociating quite early. I was basicly a zombie at age 7. I barely have any memories from that time. The memories i do have came back later.
I have told my parents and friends earlier this year after i was groped in a bar and those memories came flooding back. Prossecution is not an option i think, the scouts disbanded a bit after i was pulled out of the scouts (one of my then friends told them i was being hit and that i had to eat my food in the toilets). I also cant make out the faces in the memories i do have. To be honest considering how damaging remembering the parts i do remember is my therapist and i have decided to not try to uncover more.
12:26 hopefully he keeps his guard up because they probably waiting for him to forget about it so they can catch him off guard, those kind of people don’t play.
I think OP needs to ask the court what the status of the employees and employers at that shut-down bar are, explaining that he was threatened after that day in court.
If the court side-eyes OP for not bringing this up when it happened, OP can at least say, “If the people were arrested for crimes, I think my testimony of what happened that day would be relevant if they’re getting parole sometime soon. I just want to make sure that I’m protected, and that probably means making sure the guys from that case aren’t able to schedule a ‘get-together’ which would be in reality ‘their day of revenge’ against me.”
For story 7, it's definitely better that a person who went out to do drugs ever week lost her kids, at least until she gets help and stays sober. That is never an environment you want kids around, so the undercover definitely helped saved their lives in the long run
Problem is, with the US system, there'd be a really high chance the (maybe single) mom doesn't get rehab and instead gets a year or more in jail/prison, which will generally only worsen addictions
But which is better? A mother who struggles with drugs and leaves her kids in the care of a family friend when she's using, or having the kids get split up and placed into foster homes that abuse and rape them (a very real possibility with the way the US foster system is)?
Yeah, it could be better for the kids, but it could also be much worse, and there's not a good way of telling in a situation like this.
@@peterlewis2178 theres also biological mothers that abuse their kids and use them as prostitutes to get drug money...
When I was a kid and a predator tried to get me to do smth, I did everything I could to troll them and waste their time. It worked.
Once I was a really high-pitched 15yo dude on gaming VCs and got hit on quite a couple times. I had a wide array of trolling options for them, from doing an obvious guy voice / a metal growl to the ones who thought I was a young girl to pretending I was my dad and I was reporting them. Also I was acting like a real asshole when some people hit on me in DMs, just to see what awful shit I could get away with if I dangled the possibility of a nude to them. Also having their Discord account allows me to report them to my country and their country's police if I get it
Both of y'all are like me and like to fuck with people. I respect people like that.
My uncle ODd in a guest bedroom at his “friend’s” house, while his friend and some other guy were in another room blackout drunk. While I do still feel some bitter feelings to those two that were with my uncle at the time for supporting his addiction, I also know that my uncle made the decision to put himself in that position.
I know everyone says it but drugs are seriously dangerous. Even if you think “I’m strong I can handle it, I have nothing to lose,” you do have very much to lose. And you are not stronger than death. You are human. So take care of yourself, remember that your friends and family love you very much. And if you don’t have friends or family around, love yourself until you find someone to love you.
If his "friends" were blackout drunk is it possible they were also addicts and were just friends who were addicts? Obviously I don't know the whole story but just because addicts are friends with other addicts doesn't necessarily mean they're "supporting" their addiction, they're just both people with a disease who get along. Idk just a different perspective. I've had a few family members OD & pass and I've ODed and survived twice before so I know a little about that I guess you could say "lifestyle"
@XthepumpkinqueenxXx Exactly. This person is acting like addicts can't be friends with each other or something and their family member is some innocent person and the people are them are the "bad ones". Lol.
"Drugs are dangerous"
Thanks tips.
👏🏽 👏🏽 well said
"Serious?"
Sirius, aka alpha Canis Majoris. It's the brightest star in the night sky
Thank you!!
What about Serious Black?
i’ve been watching your content for w couple days now and i genuinely really love your content but thank you for reading out the SA and CP info where to report and how to talk to. many people would just look it over thank you for taking your time to read it out ❤
OooOOOOOoooooo... interesting! Love it! I've always wondered how cops kept their cover!
16:45 I dont think they were originally intended for that in the states. That only happened in the antebellum period thanks to a religious movement advocating for prisoners. Look into the the Auburn system and the Pennsylvania system if you wanna know more, it's cool stuff
Could you maybe put important links mentioned in these posts in the description so that everyone who may have use for it can also find the links here?
The entire way that Story 12 was worded was hilarious
moments like 6:52 make me think that some criminals are just kind normal people that are just there by circumstance.
You think!? They are normal (mostly) people.
Man that's crazy. Can you believe it?
Criminal aren’t some other race or species of people, they are just people like everyone else. Except they have committed crimes, which are also purely arbitrary and determined by other people.
Thank you for reading out the edit it needs to be treated seriously
You should do one asking undercover cops on what crazy things happened to *make them blow their cover* if they were able to
The way you say Puerto Rican makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Appreciate that big dawg issa bery nice
I have not stopped clutching my pearls throughout this entire video. Pearls. Are. CLUTCHED.
8:00 Those kids already didn't have a mom. Now they at least are eligible for synthetic parents.
In the U.K. a group of women have taken the police force to court. They had children with undercover police officers back in the 1980s when officers infiltrated anti war and anti nuclear weapons groups. A huge mess as the women did not find out the truth until the 2000s. The “fathers “ had bailed out of the relationships in the 1990s and one woman found out the truth by accident when she was trying to get maintenance. The name used by her child’s “father” came back as a person who had died as a baby.
congrats on nearly having 10k! you deffo deserve more subs still tho
Years ago my uncle was in some serious trouble, I'm 99% sure is girlfriend at the time was an undercover officer. She basically came out of no where, no idea where he would have met her, she was attractive, smart and suppsedly had a good job in the medical field, not the average druggie he usually associated with. She drove an older Nissan Maxima, not necessarily an old junker because it was pretty nice cosmetically, but had some issues like it had been parked up for a while, possibly a drug seizure vehicle?, she gave my cousin a phone and said use it as much as she wanted, some "rich old doctor" was paying for it, when her Maxima broke down she pulled up in a newer Escalade she "borrowed". At one point they all decide to go to and get some food, while my uncle and the woman were inside ordering, my cousin snoops and finds a gun in the console. After a couple months my uncle finally gets caught, and his girlfriend dissappears as quickly as she turned up, family tried to reach out to let her know what happened, but her phones not working, and my cousins free "rich old doctor" phone also stops working, I always thought stuff like that was just in movies, but looking back now I wonder why no one was the least bit suspicious at the time
That last story is hilarious!🤣
I don't think anyone knows 100% what undercover cops/agents are or are not allowed to do. They'll tell you they can't use drugs, or do serious harm to people, etc. but wouldn't it make more sense that they say these things, so that when an undercover person ACTUALLY does any of them, it looks as if they CANT be an undercover agent, but that would completely ruin the point. You'd never get deep undercover in drug rings, etc.
Isn’t the law that they cannot act outside of what is necessary for safety
Story 10 sounded like it was beat the crap out of her or lose his life type of situation....
Back nefore the Internet took off, my dad was a Postal Investigator. The amount of CP that used to move through the post office was sickening. He was tasked with working with the FBI and local LEO to hunt down people using PO boxes to send and receive this stuff. He did this for over a decade before he basically forced them to take him off those cases. He retired 10 years ago, hadn't worked on a CP case 10 years prior to retirement for a total of 20+ years now and still deals with depression from the sheer amount of CP cases he worked on.
Wow, the first several cops sound badass
You said in story 7 you hope the mum was only charged with possession or something minor, yeah that's not how it works... Odds are she did more time than the organisers because she would have been charged with conspiracy but without knowing enough to betray someone for a better plea deal. Even worse, being innocent of anything major she may have made the mistake of fighting the charges and ended up in prison for decades from a dozen more charges being piled on as punishment for defending herself.
Entrapment is when an officer outright asks or tells you to do something illegal, then arrests you for it. it's actually fairly rare. They're allowed to imply and beat around the bush, letting you fill in the blanks, but they cannot directly ask or tell you to do something illegal, or if they do at least not charge you for that specific thing.
The criteria for entrapment:
It must be the uncovers idea
The other person can not Have a predisposition to committing set crime period
Anybody who's already committed a felony automatically has a predisposition to breaking the law...
That's why a successful entrapment defense is very very rare...
you need to know this
prison was never about rehabilitation or even justice
it is just retribution, plain and simple
otherwise you wouldn't see the contempt politicians and cops have for convicts
Humans are programmed to be disgusted by germs. People see criminals as a social disease. Only a broken society doesn't have any kind of prejudice against convicts. It's just what it is.
The cops aren't really involved in the process though. If the judge decides to let you scott free the cop has no say. nor does the politician.
@@genericscout5408 politicians have no say on individual cases
But they put forth the laws that govern prisons
If you watch any mention of prisons or prisoners you would almost taste the disdain they have
@@MrTStat They can't act on the disdain passed adding more time. The quality of the time isn't dependent on the politician. In fact most of the quality is dependant on the other criminals.
Pretty much this
Prison for rehabilitation is only a relatively modern thing
Prison has always been for punishment
Story 10 was effing crazy!
0:45 they are lucky the officer they beat up wasnt FBI or they would have a federal criminal case against them
Lol. That last one. He pulled an uno reverse.
We love what you do, man ❤ Drink water homie
Come on, last one is a great plot line for a crime story 😂
That AFT agent should've gotten worse for sure.
I’ve been approached by undercover ATF before: As a 2nd Amendment Enthusiast I belong to multiple gun clubs (outdoor shooting ranges) in my part of the state. You get to know the regulars pretty quickly, and most of them also attend multiple gun clubs.
Anyway, after YEARS of going to a club suddenly there’s a new Chevy Malibu with two dudes I’ve never seen before. Haircuts and beards worthy of instagram wearing dressed head to toe like 5.11 (Edit: 5.11 is a brand of tactical themed clothes. This isn’t about their height.) fashion models. They shoot maybe half a magazine then start wandering over to people and fawning over their guns
“Hey man, that’s a cool Glock. You ever shot one with a switch on it? Ha ha ha”
“Yo dude, that’s a sick AR. It’s a real shame we can’t own the real deal”
It was like talking to a pair of Mormon missionaries, but instead of Jesus they wanted to talk about how much they hate the government. (Coincidently, Mormons also hate the government and even had a full blown war with the Army back in the day).
Now every Gun Club has its chatty Kathy’s but everything with these two was steered towards automatic weapons and ‘that darn gubberment’
The whole interaction was just so forced and everything they said was just so cloyingly ass-kissing (“You’re such a great shot. I bet you own a lot of big guns. Where do you get your ammo?”) I honestly thought this guy was a faggot hitting on me. Just super uncomfortable so I left
“Damn, look at the time. Gotta get going!”
“Do you live around here? It’s pretty nice”
About two days later it dawned on me that I wasn’t getting flirted with and these guys were trying to entrap me for illegal guns 😂
@@garrettlundy3959 Should have said "maybe I can help you", then lead them on, being as gay as possible until they say "fuck this" and leave.
That chat room story makes me glad Omegle is gone
The problem is, a lot of cops and a lot of pro police people don't consider criminals, drug users, or even the homeless as real people, they are problems and thus they not only are fine with brutal force being used they see it as preferable.
@@SLD-bz9soThey're also all having pre marital intercourse likely too early as well. Also not very biblical. If there's a BF/GF situation they aren't really proper Christians either. And now the movement goes around saying sin don't mean nothing.
Asserts domestic violence to prove youre not a cop??? Thatd convince me you are a cop
Last guy pulled an uno reverse card😅
For the story about the agent showing their badge and thinking that only happened in the movies; it's important for the agent to establish that they are legitimate law enforcement personnel, and a badge is a good step in that direction. Otherwise, if a random person shows up asking odd questions about a neighbor, a reasonable person might conclude it's something crooked on the part of the person asking questions. I wouldn't want to answer questions about a neighbor's habits or schedule, because that could easily be trying to find a good time to rob the neighbor's house or something similar. Also, whether or not I answered the random questions about a neighbor, I might mention it to the neighbor or in some way ask them about it. If it's made clear that it's legitimate law enforcement, then of course the neighbor would not hear about anything from me. However, if someone is scouting the neighbor's house to rob, looking for a chance to kidnap their children, trying to vandalize their property, or something of that nature; I would want to warn the neighbor in addition to not helping the potential criminal. Showing the badge was a good way to bypass some of those concerns (although if certain questions were asked or an inordinate interest was given to certain things: I would get the name, badge number, and agency of the person and at least check things out... con men sometimes use fake badges).
Story 7 is def rough.
I mean if the mother was decent at taking care of the kids, and it would depend what type of drugs she was taking, like weed. Really it wouldnt that be a big deal, and the cops are more assholes here.
If she was doing stuff with more hardcore drugs like meth, then its probably a good thing the kids arent around her anymore.
Story 10:
Might be a bit much, but if the people around dont trust Bob, then Bob’s live is in danger of taking a bullet in the back.
No, Prison was designed solely for punishment. Rehabilitation is a more modern concept, the last 50 or so years I’d say. In the US its primary function is still punishment, it does seem like other countries though have tried moving towards more rehabilitation.
The US doesnt care about rehabilitation at all. Especially private prisons, where an inmate is just a cash cow part of the system. Your value is only being kept there as long as possible so the prison gets to profit.
the swat officer story, he didn’t take their mom away, their mom took herself away when she decided drugs were more important, they’re not losing a mother, they never had one, they’re gaining a new opportunity, and hopefully they can get there on their feet
"Entrapment" is such a flimsy excuse for catching predators. Fun fact: you cant entrap a non pedophile by acting as though you are a child.
Uno reverse card for that last story
Seems like alot of these ''good guys'' cross the line between being undercover to catch criminals to actively collaborating with them and being one of the bad guys themselves, the only difference being they avoid prosecution.
Let’s do nothing instead, what’s your solution
@@walter9240 actually hold them accountable when they cross that line.
Before 50k subbed !!!
Im from the northern midwest and we had a situation in our county where the police department had a college student working as an informent to get a reduced sentence. The guy ended up getting shot exicution style by the river. I think his name was Andrew Sadek.
"ATF agent gets beat up by cops"
lol
Is it me, or are recent UnderSparked videos abruptly ending?
Not from the cops perspective and probably not that crazy, but my dad for a while (maybe still is, not sure), was responsible for shutting of gas to people who don't pay their utilities. He owns and frequently wears a Kevlar vest because surprisingly people don't like having their utilities shut off. He does seem to feel sorry for some of the people but he says a lot of them are loaded just still freeloaders. Anyway moving onto the story: he was given an address and told to shut some people down. He goes to the location and the people living there tell him to get the fuck out of there. He says "Listen I got to shut you down" and basically says the routine stuff, as this wasn't a known dangerous site he wasn't wearing his vest. Then one of the guys flashes a badge at him and tells him "Understand yet, leave now" so he gets out of there. He checks the news when he gets home, turns out he went to a place the cops were using as a drug den, and they were about to have a huge drug bust when he went to bust them.
First story was NUTS
Dave's name is Sirius, not Serious. jeez closed captions.
your supposed to arrest someone the moment you have something to arrest them on, if you have enough to arrest them on and dig for more thats entrapment as well.
Anyone catch what his codm handle was so i can stay outta his lobbys lol dude is badass
When ur undercover u can do anything that u can prove was to keep ur cover and keep u safe even if it’s blowing a house up yk
11:00 hold up, I thought everyone drove with one hand? I've never seen people using two hands unless they are just starting out driving or they're a female.
you hold it with one hand when you are going straight, sure. but dont you use both hands while turning?
for the love of god ps stop dying on shipment 😂😂
keep up the content man i'm loving it 😊👍👍
Story 11: The college CI thing feels like a pyramid scheme.
3:13 as wtf why do those things exist😑
*eeewww
(Sorry about my pesky auto correct)
That puerto rican one has been told in several variations throughout the years. Don't believe it.
That last story is some bugs bunny shit
If undercover they can break the law under certain circumstances.
Goid job catch ing the creeps desperate an desperate to get away on that note
😂😂😂😂 the last story
Question, how are they able to do cop work at 18 don’t you need a degree or certification in a specific compartment that involves police work
The academy is 6-8 months usually.
Man the 80s were a different time… also no prisons have never been made to rehabilitate
Prison is absolutely not about rehabilitation, currently in the US it's closer to slavery than anything else. They use prisoners as cheap/free labour so what would be the point of trying to make sure they don't reoffend?
Yeah having to tell you they are a cop is wrong. Just ask for their badge number. They have to tell you that
18 y.o. cop girl pretending to be underage to catch predators - I don't understand how exactly did she and her department do that? She is legally adult so whatever anyone said to her is not a crime.
it's enough to prove that they do that to other underage people too. and if they still keep talking like that after she says she is 15, it still counts.
idk if story 5 is real, it at least didnt happen in the USA....
i was wanted by the police for TWO YEARS, i didnt know why, friends didnt know why, family didnt know why.
i was actually hiding in closets sometimes when the sherrif, and sometimes feds would show up to my freinds houses. they would NEVER reveal why they wanted me.
one day, they got my cell phone number , i picked up, they asked if it was me, i said yes. they said i have to show up to the police station within two days or ill have a warrant out for my arrest.
IT TURNS OUT, that they wanted me to snitch on a pedophile, and wanted me to confirm the identity of certain screen names b elonging to my underage friends (i was held back because school transfer, and held back in kindergarden cause my birthday was late in the year and wasnt "really" old enough for first grade.
so i was always a year or two older than my friends....
this dude was BORN IN THE 70s!!!!!!. keep in mind, i was born in the 80s, but all my friends were born in the 90s.....so, AT LEAST a ten year difference.
they all believed he was my age.
17:20 so he literally raped her. he should be in prision more than the people he busted
Right and how is it legal for him to actually solicit her for it. BS
What part of that is rape?
rape? she consented
At worst it was entrapment (plus soliciting), he might have talked her into the bj but nothing in the story indicates he forced her to do anything.
The cops main goal is to catch the big time dealer so all these stories make sense when you think about it. If it wasn't for the big dealer these problems wouldn't be happening
Story 8 the name is Sirius not "Serious?". Lol.
Wonder if a cop ever had to blow something else in order not to blow their cover. xD
My understanding regarding legality when it comes to being undercover is that they take a similar approach as they do the police. A certain level of immunity is guaranteed, such as not being tried for possession of drugs if you were undercover to help bust a drug ring. Past that you have to prove what you did was necessary for maintaining your identity. This particular instance? Eh... He went a little far in regards to regular limits, but his identity's integrity was in doubt, so some "excessiveness" can be waved off. Legally speaking he was probably in the clear.
Something to keep in mind is that there are clear lines that no undercover agent is allowed to cross, and that the full list of those lines is VERY classified. Hard lines, the kind that absolutely no quarter is given on. As long as they don't cross those lines, usually they can get away with it so long as they can prove they had to do it.
Imagine reading about a mother stepping out on her children to do crack & feeling more sorry for the mother having Child Services involved than you do for the kids with a mother who decided to produce children when she’s an addict… rly
I don’t know if you’re able to make tweaks to a video after it’s published, without losing your data for views, comments, etc.
If you can make a small change for this video or if you want to reupload these stories many years down the road, you might want a version where any instance of the word
“Serious” for story 8 are replaced by “Sirius”.
Sirius is the name of the star, that’s the astrology-based name that the undercover cop earned.
simple: break up with her 😂
that last one hahahah
Story #1: thank you for keeping the resources. Because eww. Always report if you can make sure you stay safe. Always stay anonymous and make up names is my tip
Story 6 has to be a scam, no way you can do drugs as an UC officer.
Is it illegal to catfish predators take their money and get them arrested? Ive always wondered was there a law sbout something like that.
Guess..
Guy found car , car turn to yellow robot play rickroll , find blue truck , blue truck turn to robot blue truck and yellow car defeat evil car
14:00 yes they deserve to be treated as people, but people in that lifestyle know the risks of accusing someone of being a rat in that world, they got let off easy.
A lot of these stories. I've been the person like my house was wrongfully. Rated by The Fed's 3 separate times along 3 years and we actually had to move because their harassment was so intense because they were so convinced that my dad was a big drug Lord or some s*** Just because the bar he hang out with he would talk with these people apparently and hugged them when leaving, but you would just go to the bar and come back home. They absolutely destroyed our lives. No charges were ever placed or anything, but we literally had to move 3 separate times when they rated they took everything V. HS tapes TV's every f****** thing I was a small child. I learned that I could never have. Anything because I didn't know when the feds were gonna bust it in the middle of the night and take everything but the sheets on my bed. I literally have known kids who have grown up with parents cooking method in another room. No, they're not great. Yes, they have trauma, but most their trauma isn't from family. It's from the rest of society.
13:34 naive
I could never be a cop. Very few crimes are serious enough for mw to care. And snitches disgust me
I wish parents would teach their kids the dangers of the internet as predators lurk everywhere, even here on youtube. It took the site staff MONTHS before they finally banned a grooming pedo. And the thing is, I witnessed too many underage kids enabling the sick man's behavior; it was honestly disgusting to watch.
I would be too perfect at this job I'm basically faking my whole identity every day plus I have strong devotion to justice plus I'm tiny like a 13 year old child and can act innocent lol
Story 8 was made up, "Sirius Tag" is tongue in cheek for "Serious Tag" which is an AskReddit nerd joke about the OP not tagging the post as "serious" which apparently is free license for dumbassery
I bet you that pedophile chat room thing was teen chat 💀
Dam bro I was ducking right
for story 2 its not that surprising like would you rather die or get beat up
The cop the snorted the coke didn't know what him was doing him was scared is why him did so much coke an was not properly trained could have died right away also
See for the swat team story the kids already didn't have a mom. Anyone who knowingly does that amount of drugs isn't a parent. I am saying this with first-hand experience it was better that she got taken away just cause she birthed those kids doesn't mean she was a parent to them. drugs change people so violently that even off the influence they don't remain good people and are very far from being even a parent. Maybe the kids at first will despise having the person that was seemingly their mom taken away from them but as they grow older they will appreciate it. It saved them probably a lifetime worth of therapy. And props to the cop for it
Sirius the Dog Star
HEL I WAS RIGHT IT WAS THE TEEN CHAT SITE I CHAT ON ALL THE TIME. 😂😂😂- yes guys I’m ok I also catch creeps in there :3 even tho I am a child I’m in some group