Build and Quick Review of One of HO Scale's Tiniest Kits - Cosmic AEG Deki 3

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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
  • BUYER'S NOTE: People are trying to sell these on eBay for $200 + international shipping even though you can get these semi-regularly from Hobby Search in Japan for 1/3rd the price. If HS is out of stock, just place a backorder and give them a little time. Waiting a couple extra weeks can save you over $100!
    Althought I've seen smaller models than this, I think this is the tiniest fully motorized kit I've ever come across in HO scale! Cosmic is a small Japanese manufacturer with an affordable line of products, and if this kit is any indication, they're good quality and well engineered. You can find their products at Hobby Search (1999.co.jp, mostly nerdy stuff but they have a good selection of model railroad products), and you may have to wait a few weeks for some things to be delivered.
    This is my first video with my new editing software. I still need more practice with it and need to make some adjustments, but I think the video came out pretty well overall!

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  • @bluebear6570
    @bluebear6570 Рік тому +18

    Just a word to the prototype - it was an industrial loco designed and built by the German company AEG (Allgemeine Elektrizitäts-Gesellschaft) in the early 1900s. Both narrow gauge and standard gauge variants were available. A 9mm NG version us available from Hallig/Austria, following a prototype which ran on the Mixnitz to St. Erhard railway in Austria. This type of loco was introduced in the 1890s and became a bestseller world-wide.
    Japanese kits in general are extremely well engineered. They all fit well and usually require very little glueing or soldering.

  • @debbiemilka2251
    @debbiemilka2251 Рік тому +15

    Darth, This is just fabulous ! I found this project to be engrossing. Working in such tiny detail. I loved every bit of it. Having the little AEG Deki 3 pull six hoppers and a caboose was the icing on the cake ! All I can say is "Wow !" 5 stars !

  • @mobahartenholm9289
    @mobahartenholm9289 Рік тому +2

    Hy . I just find your chanel. I do realy enjoying what I see. Im realy curious of all videos. I'm 62 years old and collecting model railroad for nearly 50 years. But I had also a break, so I can emagine whats going on in your case. Congratulations to find back to this hobby. I live in Germany nearby the baltic see. So excuse my bumpy writing. I restart my layout in dcc, so I have to convert all of my lokos from dc to dcc. That will take a time. And Im realy interesting in maintanace and reparingmethods all over the workd. I've learnd a lot on youtube. And even from your videos. Thank you for getting this chance. Regards from northern germany, Rainer

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      I’m glad my videos have been helpful to you and hope your DCC conversions go well!

  • @ericfehser6447
    @ericfehser6447 10 місяців тому +1

    I just built tis, and it really is that easy. Fantastic kit. A quick note for others who, like me, use Kadee whisker couplers- you must use the no5 box, the new style box will not fit.

  • @richardphillips3437
    @richardphillips3437 Рік тому +3

    Total respect for construction using those limited instructions. Way beyond my capabilities !

  • @beltfed4624
    @beltfed4624 Рік тому +3

    You seem like the kind of modeller that would absolutely be a pleasure to work with and be around. I take my time, think, discuss and double-check slowly and carefully, but more often than not, my fellow modellers are not very fun to be around (know-it-alls). I enjoyed your video very much, subbing. And I rarely use this word, but that little runner is adorable. 👍🏻

  • @SCL3618
    @SCL3618 Рік тому +2

    Glad to see someone else take the dive on the Hobby Search rabbit hole! Haven't quite been brave enough to pull the trigger on one of these or the steam kits.

  • @trr94001
    @trr94001 Рік тому +4

    That is a really neat little kit. I wish there were more US prototype kits like this.

  • @dallasgibson7578
    @dallasgibson7578 Рік тому +7

    Cool little loco, Im sure you could fit a small flywheel in there to make it run just that much smoother, the motor shaft looks the perfect length for it, too

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +3

      There may be enough room for a small flywheel, and that would improve performance across those switches.

    • @awolfalone2006
      @awolfalone2006 Рік тому

      A small capacitor may help as well.

  • @antonbruce1241
    @antonbruce1241 Рік тому +4

    Great little runner! And I'm surprised with its pulling power. I might have to check this thing out....
    Nice work, and thanks!

    • @Gfysimpletons
      @Gfysimpletons 11 місяців тому

      😊 in the 1960’s that would have been $1.99-$4.99

  • @arrow1414
    @arrow1414 Рік тому +4

    As I think I mentioned before here, I would, if you have room, put in a "keep alive" capacitor to keep it from stalling on the frogs or slightly dirty track; and smooth out the starts and stops a little and greater creep performance.

  • @vincenttolve9756
    @vincenttolve9756 Рік тому +3

    An excellent job of building and superb videography. as well. Thanks for adding to my modelling education.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! It's definitely a lot different from working on your large scale trains!

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому

      @@DarthSantaFe eyes sore?

  • @edwardblieka8411
    @edwardblieka8411 Рік тому +4

    I have an older railbus kit of this type and your build of this kit is going to be very helpful for me, thanks! By the way the overhead pick up you chose is called a bow (not common in the US) ! The other one is a trolley pole , the disc at the end being a roller wheel pickup rather than a sliding shoe type!

  • @ldmbtt
    @ldmbtt Рік тому +6

    That is a beautiful model!
    The video is very good and the quality of the shots is great
    P.S.
    You forgot to put two washers, one on each side of the worm gears.
    Washers are included in the sheet.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +4

      Thanks! I did see the washers and figured they went there, but the worm spacing is tight enough with the chassis on mine that they wouldn't have fit. I'm sure there are others where the worms are pressed on slightly further and would need the washers.

  • @nscaledelights
    @nscaledelights Рік тому +1

    Even though I dont run HO instead I run N scale really enjoyed this video so much.

  • @markwilliams2620
    @markwilliams2620 Рік тому +1

    Nice work!
    Since everyone has tips.....
    Working above an automotive magnetic dish keeps dropped screws from disappearing.
    The Milwaukee built a similar critter on top of a recycled Fairbanks Morse C-Liner truck. The used it to switch stuff in a yard in their electrified Lines West. After they tore down the wires they ran it on an extension cord.

  • @BrooksMoses
    @BrooksMoses Рік тому +6

    That is quite tiny! And really does seem to be exceptionally well designed. It would be interesting to compare it in size to the Precision Scale Co. (formerly Kemtron) "Thomas Flyer rail car" kit, which might be smaller but I'm sure doesn't run anywhere near as well as this one does.

  • @ROBERTN-ut2il
    @ROBERTN-ut2il 11 місяців тому +1

    Honorable Bonsai locomotive-san! Coupla points 1) The "pantographs"- The one you installed is known as a bow which was uncommon in North America. The other is a trolley pole with either a slider or wheel contacting the overhead 2) There was a US prototype for a tiny 0-B-0 steeple cab the "Joe Cushing" - "Built by GE in 1893 as 650 volt DC only; Built for Columbian Exposition then sold to Manufacturers RR 12/1896; in 1901 rebuilt by GE c/n 1607; Once fell through open draw into the Quinnipiac River when Tomlinson bridge opened unexpectedly; Sold to Joe Cushing RR as #1 in 1905" and "1 was built by General Electric in 1893, #1437, for General Electric for the Columbian Exposition. It was sold as Manufacturer RR 1 in 1893 and became New York New Haven & Hartford RR 1. It was rebuilt by GE in 1901, #1607, and sold as JCRR 1 in 1905. It was purchased by GE for preservation in 1948 and given to National Museum of Transportation in 1964." i.imgur.com/OYOfr7f.jpg i.imgur.com/O9A96BM.jpg 3) Kato makes overhead you can install, Other European manufacturers offer catenary, but in my opinion, its the sort of installation you would have on a heavy electrified mainline. Kato's offering is much more what you would have on a traction or industrial system. You would probably only need one pack for an industrial line. Many power plants used units like this (they already made the juice) to move loaded and empty hopper cars of coal, send fly ash to a dumping site and switch the occasional shipment of electrical gear for repair at the factory or to upgrade the plant. Joe was used to serve a textile plant's power house and to switch loaded and emply box casrs to and from the interchange and loading docks.

  • @donaldlamendola8294
    @donaldlamendola8294 Рік тому +2

    Very nice and I love the look!!!! Thank you for sharing, and please keep up the good work!!!

  • @andrewpalm2103
    @andrewpalm2103 Рік тому +1

    Wow, what a great kit and loco. With the trolley pole option this would look great on my little layout. Cheers from Wisconsin!

  • @davidstokes8441
    @davidstokes8441 7 місяців тому

    I have vague recollection of seeing this little loco starring in a Model Railroader article decades ago.

  • @joshuatoro8977
    @joshuatoro8977 Рік тому +1

    your lettering looks just like to Chattahoochee industry railroad I love your lettering I'm going to have to learn how to make the same ones for my Chattahoochee industry railroad Thank you for posting

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      Thanks! I use Microscale #90031 Condensed Roman.

  • @Christiane069
    @Christiane069 11 місяців тому +1

    Very well done. Interesting model.

  • @ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains
    @ArcadiaJunctionModelTrains Рік тому +1

    What a great little kit and model! Gosh I wish some of the other brass kit builders would take note of the designed and construction features of this kit.

  • @Thierry787
    @Thierry787 Рік тому +1

    Very amazing little engine !! so cute, i love so much !

  • @blairmielnik8228
    @blairmielnik8228 Рік тому +1

    The electrical aspect of this was the most interesting- brass etched kits can be treacherous with all the metal and trying to feed insulated contacts to the wheels and thread through to the motor. The fact that this one uses bronze pickups that pass right through the brass frame and contacts the motor without solder boggles my mind.

  • @kevinparson5208
    @kevinparson5208 Рік тому +1

    Wow. That is a wonderfully designed model. Great video.

  • @scottfw7169
    @scottfw7169 Рік тому +4

    Best way to get around short wheelbase electrical contact issues ... live trolley wire with return path through both rails! 😁

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому +1

      tricky part will be pantograpgh, insulation and function

    • @scottfw7169
      @scottfw7169 Рік тому +1

      @@billfusionenterprise Both yes and no. Has been done for decades with limited run brass electric traction. Insulated mounting with its own wire to motor; I'd use a different and more flexible pantograph, or even a trolley pole.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому +1

      @@scottfw7169 I just look at the included one and don't think it would work

    • @scottfw7169
      @scottfw7169 Рік тому +1

      @@billfusionenterprise It looks to have no spring for keeping pressure on wire as relationship/geometry between wire and locomotive varies, so, yes, either some serious modification to the kit or just use a different one seems required.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому

      @@scottfw7169 plus it would need a more proper head

  • @wizlish
    @wizlish Рік тому +3

    Pretty sure that DeKi is the Japanese abbreviation for 'electric locomotive' (something like Denki Kikansha). See the history of the Choshi Denki Tetsudō...

  • @BCHonea
    @BCHonea Рік тому +1

    What a fabulous little kit, well done

  • @FunWithHOScaleStuff
    @FunWithHOScaleStuff Рік тому +1

    Outstanding video presentation and excellent thumbnail image. I've been trying to get proficient with Shotcut editing software so I appreciate that level of difficulty. You seem to have no problem with your edits. Thanks for sharing this tiny origami model.

  • @isaacwatanabe9599
    @isaacwatanabe9599 Рік тому

    In my limited experience with japanese models, they are very well made. Especially plastic models. No flash at all and a lot less cleaning up needed

  • @nostalgiccameralife
    @nostalgiccameralife 11 місяців тому +1

    The same mechanism is sold by ARU. I use it for some of my models of early steam locomotives.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  11 місяців тому

      I’ve seen those Aru mechanisms around lately, and since this is Cosmic’s only powered kit as far as I know, it makes sense that they would source a good chassis from another manufacturer.

  • @Mauscmkwk
    @Mauscmkwk Рік тому +2

    Might I suggest getting some tamiya side cutters they are excellent at cutting through photo etch

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      Thanks, I’ll have to check into that!

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 Рік тому

    Cute little German built E-lok.

  • @milgeekmedia
    @milgeekmedia Рік тому +1

    Fascinating to watch. I'm considering the N gauge version of this (by a different company) though - thank goodness - it comes pre-built! :)

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      It’s amazing that they’ve been able to make these in N scale! You’d have to have some really fine tools if those were sold as kits like this one.

  • @David-yo5re
    @David-yo5re Рік тому +3

    I love it. I can't believe it has enough heft and torque to pull 7 cars so easily. How much does it weigh and I also wonder how many cars it can pull before losing traction.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +3

      It's a few ounces, but I don't have a small scale on hand to check right now. The wheels were close to slipping with those 7, but I think I could get one more behind it.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому

      @@DarthSantaFe could add some weight to it, be tricky, but can help. I had this bachmann blue van that did much better with a weight on the roof

  • @williamsantangelo
    @williamsantangelo Рік тому

    Little Buggers neat! Thank You!

  • @MikeG42
    @MikeG42 Рік тому

    Cute little loco. CIRR must be the Chattahoochee Industrial Railroad

  • @Thierry787
    @Thierry787 Рік тому

    Really cute engine, amazing product !

  • @astridvallati4762
    @astridvallati4762 8 місяців тому +1

    The 1/80 Scale, or HOj, is a compromise to Represent Japanese 3'6" using HO 16,5mmTrack....proper 1/87 would require 12mm Track for correct Scale-Gauge relationship.

  • @theplumber33
    @theplumber33 Рік тому +1

    Sweet kit!!! 💯✌️

  • @leechowning8728
    @leechowning8728 Рік тому

    When you first tested it, and wondered out loud if it could really haul all that, I almost felt it heard you.

  • @ACE324MINER
    @ACE324MINER Рік тому +3

    If you don't mind telling how did you managed to get this thing ship to the US? Proxy shopping service? Or did you get lucky and find it on another site?

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Hobby Search has DHL and other international options available. I picked DHL since it was the cheapest next to sea freight, and that would've taken 2 or 3 months for a savings of about $2!

  • @JoseLopez-xb1mx
    @JoseLopez-xb1mx Рік тому +1

    Long time viewer first time commenter. Would a DCC decoder be possible in this? Love this kit! Great work as always!

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Yup, a small decoder can be fit in the cab! All you have to do is wire the pickups to go to the decoder instead, and then the decoder can go back to the motor.

  • @garyjust.johnson1436
    @garyjust.johnson1436 Рік тому

    Good job!

  • @GerardScroogeGoes
    @GerardScroogeGoes Рік тому

    Try the translate function on your phone for the manual, does wonders reading the manual first :)

  • @sakuchihafuku4260
    @sakuchihafuku4260 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for making a Japanese locomotive.

  • @jwhiskey242
    @jwhiskey242 Рік тому +2

    Photo etched - not for the faint of heart.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Usually yes, but this one's so well engineered that it was easier to put together than a plastic or diecast model!

  • @scottfw7169
    @scottfw7169 Рік тому +1

    Now, what kind of fun could the On30 and the Gn15 crews have with it ... 🤔

  • @micoasters
    @micoasters Рік тому +2

    How much did that smalll 25 toner kit cost? I’ve seen the shell but how much did the whole thing cost?

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      The 25-tonner was a powered Grandt Line kit. At the time, the whole kit was $50.

    • @micoasters
      @micoasters Рік тому +1

      @@DarthSantaFe ah ok. They sell the shells on ebay but you have to buy the powerd truck separately. Ima look for one since I'm going to a trainshow on Saturday

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому +1

      @@micoasters you might find a full kit which has the motor

  • @kge420
    @kge420 Рік тому +1

    Very cool little kit. It looks like the wheels are out of gauge. Too narrow? Thanks for the fun build.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      The gauge is actually correct. The axles were very precisely built right out of the box.

  • @OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars
    @OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars Рік тому +1

    Nice train

  • @jamessnyder3052
    @jamessnyder3052 Рік тому +1

    Very cool nice job man I have som questions to ask you about a bowser challenger

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      Just send an email to darthsantafe@gmail.com and I'll see how I can help!

  • @enginecrzy
    @enginecrzy Рік тому +2

    How about a Fairmont speeder???

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      I bought one a while back but haven't found a motor yet that can hide inside of it. I might have to just put some kind of a box load or something to cover a slightly too large motor.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому

      bachmann has made one, powered with two trailing cars

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      @@billfusionenterprise I remember that one! They had to make a big divider in the middle to fit the motor, yet somehow made it so it didn't look too out of place.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому

      @@DarthSantaFe there is also a MOW truck. I also have several other motorized MOW

  • @superdave6889
    @superdave6889 Рік тому

    looks like it is based off the old English Electric Type 3B Battery Electric Shunter (some IRL were full electric instead of battery)

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      It is similar to many steeple cab switchers from around that period, but it was actually based directly off this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%8Dshi_Electric_Railway_Line#/media/File:Choshi-Electric-Railway-deki3.jpg

  • @marka5478
    @marka5478 Рік тому

    I would feel a little mode comfortable if the ends of the drive shafts had a least a collar type bushing.

  • @hudj3a359
    @hudj3a359 Рік тому +2

    i was exactly in the process of making similar content, i’ll be covering the Aru-Model B tank engine brass etching kit in the near future as well check them out if you’re interested in similar kits to these!

  • @edgarmatzinger9742
    @edgarmatzinger9742 Рік тому

    Nice, although over engineered, kit! Now fit a DCC or similar board in it...

  • @tmfe1986
    @tmfe1986 Рік тому +1

    future layout expansion in the background? :D

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      Yup! They've been waiting a few years now, but I think I'm close to figuring out how to put it together.

    • @tmfe1986
      @tmfe1986 Рік тому

      @@DarthSantaFe looking forward to see those trackplans then! any idea on how are you going to conect the expansion? considering you don't have a turnout that leads outside your current trackplan

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      @@tmfe1986 I'm going to try to replace a couple of the curved pieces with turnouts. Finding the best fitting turnouts for the 22" radius is the hard part, but once that's done, I can double the length of the large loop.

  • @enginecrzy
    @enginecrzy Рік тому +1

    you might try a text translator app for your phone that could help you out with the Japanese...

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 Рік тому +1

    Would. Capacitor help with switches?

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Possibly! The motor doesn’t need much power to keep running.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому

      trick is wiring with power switching in DC

  • @scottfw7169
    @scottfw7169 Рік тому +1

    Hmm, lets see ... if the locomotive scale is 1/80 that makes the 16.5mm gauge HO gauge track equal to 52 inch gauge in proportion to the locomotive.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, it's right between HO and 00. Kato also makes their bullet trains to 1/80, so I guess it's common over there.

    • @PrinzEugen176
      @PrinzEugen176 Рік тому +2

      HOj tends to be a little wonk in that department, as Japan majorly runs 3ft 6in gauge trains, with 4ft 8 1/2in being used mostly on bullet train lines, so they ended up scaling in the middle, where both 3ft6 and 4ft8 look passible, in the same way 00's track is out of scale with the models

    • @scottfw7169
      @scottfw7169 Рік тому

      @@PrinzEugen176 Ahh, thanks! And that does have a certain logic to it.

  • @stevepringle2295
    @stevepringle2295 Рік тому

    Cutie Pie engine😊

  • @RTek1986
    @RTek1986 Рік тому

    What is the knife you use to cut some of the brass tabs?

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      It's a Testors hobby knife. I think it came in a starter pack with some other hobby supplies and tools probably 20 years ago.

  • @hjmiller2689
    @hjmiller2689 Рік тому

    Darth, WHEN ARE WE GETTING AN UPDATE ON YOUR NEW LAYOUT?

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Eventually! No timeline on that right now, but I have some ideas and want to get to work on it this year if I can.

  • @ralphconcepcion1387
    @ralphconcepcion1387 Рік тому +1

    WOW awesome, can you build one for me😂

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      If you get one and send it over then I can have it done in no time! It really is an easy kit though, so I’m sure you can do it too!

  • @robertswickard8355
    @robertswickard8355 Рік тому

    Could you put in a N-SCALE 2 amp. DDC decoder in it ?????

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      There is plenty of room inside for an N scale decoder.

  • @EdwinsTrains
    @EdwinsTrains Рік тому +1

    Is there a way to add rivets?

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      Micro-Mark makes rivet decals that work well for this kind of thing.

    • @hudj3a359
      @hudj3a359 Рік тому +1

      scribers might work as well!

    • @EdwinsTrains
      @EdwinsTrains Рік тому

      @@DarthSantaFe Ok, I'll try them.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise Рік тому

      I think there is a tool for it

  • @jacksullivan3705
    @jacksullivan3705 Рік тому

    What kind of flux do you use?

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      I use Kester liquid rosin no-clean flux.

  • @michaelquinones-lx6ks
    @michaelquinones-lx6ks Рік тому

    BANZAI!!

  • @rickyl7231
    @rickyl7231 Рік тому

    I think my freelance Interurban might have found a new design for a “shop built” freight motor…

  • @jeremyjohnson457
    @jeremyjohnson457 Рік тому

    Here's a challenge for you DCC it

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому +1

      I only run DC, but if I ever get to running DCC then I'm sure it can be done!

  • @micoasters
    @micoasters Рік тому +2

    That small of a motor is wants used in a Xbox controller for the rumble

  • @capnclawhammer3024
    @capnclawhammer3024 Рік тому

    Maybe this could be kitbashed to produce a railcar/railcart or some such? Sorry, just pipedreaming.

  • @WWIIREBEL
    @WWIIREBEL Рік тому

    This particular model is going for 200 bucks on ebay now...grrrr.

    • @DarthSantaFe
      @DarthSantaFe  Рік тому

      Yeah, definitely don’t get this one from eBay. Some of those import sellers charge a lot for no good reason. These are still in production, so you can back order at Hobby Search and get it for the correct price: www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10235533

  • @mobius8002
    @mobius8002 Рік тому

    fit a dc stay alive in it .