Logitech’s Worst Nightmare

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  • @Nafeels
    @Nafeels 2 роки тому +3565

    NO FRIGGIN WAY you actually interviewed Mr. Faggin himself!! Beautiful doc, Alex!

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat 2 роки тому

      I think you mean to say... No Faggin way!
      I'm so sorry

    • @oldskool9783
      @oldskool9783 2 роки тому +23

      Epic!

    • @Error_4x5
      @Error_4x5 2 роки тому

      I also said, no friggin way when Mr Faggin appeared, lol

    • @mak_707
      @mak_707 2 роки тому +46

      It's so cool when the people you're trying to write a documentary about are chill enough to agree to an interview. You get the story from first person perspective.

    • @devin645
      @devin645 2 роки тому +33

      I screamed like a school girl when Federico Faggin appeared on screen.
      My wife asked what is wrong and if everything is ok.
      I'm ok just excited to watch an interview with one of the most influential people in the IT industry.

  • @robdotgif
    @robdotgif 2 роки тому +3049

    YO this is a step UP! Going out and actually interviewing someone this important just because your source ommited the details you wanted? OUTSTANDING! This is absolutely craz! Your channel just leveled the hell up

    • @LowSpecGamer
      @LowSpecGamer  2 роки тому +378

      I am hoping to start making more interviews in the future. Flights are expensive, so I might not be able to do it for every video but this is the level I want to get to

    • @VndNvwYvvSvv
      @VndNvwYvvSvv 2 роки тому +49

      Yeah, people are so used to gatekeeping, mass establishment censorship, and propaganda that any real journalism is breathtakingly refreshing.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 2 роки тому +41

      @@LowSpecGamer it's not optimal but if you can't afford a flight a remote interview is acceptable.

    • @hyoenmadan
      @hyoenmadan 2 роки тому +28

      Is incredible how many times engineering superstars want to talk and do interviews... But because the engineer superstar aura surrounding 'em (we think they will say "I can't attend you, I'm busy" if we ask them), and because many of them aren't as known by people as their company CEOs and public relation people... They just get forgotten, in the shadows of time.

    • @Vladiator
      @Vladiator 2 роки тому +7

      @@LowSpecGamer Nick Robinson for advice!

  • @zeveeeenn
    @zeveeeenn 2 роки тому +883

    I'd love to watch a full cinema-worthy work about a touchpad war

    • @LowSpecGamer
      @LowSpecGamer  2 роки тому +93

      It is worth that

    • @ishkar5k
      @ishkar5k 2 роки тому +4

      @@LowSpecGamer yes

    • @hi_its_jerry
      @hi_its_jerry 2 роки тому +2

      it would honestly be great

    • @CryptoTonight9393
      @CryptoTonight9393 2 роки тому +8

      This is what youtube was made for, highly detailed, recently produced, extremely niche, informational videos.

    • @Sacren365
      @Sacren365 2 роки тому

      And the L button.

  • @dsdy1205
    @dsdy1205 2 роки тому +709

    Whenever I've previously seen the Synaptics logo, it's usually with annoyance because something is wrong with my touchpad sensitivity. I'm going to look at it a little different now.

    • @LowSpecGamer
      @LowSpecGamer  2 роки тому +177

      It’s one of those tiny things one takes for granted but actually has a a lot history behind it

    • @thegeforce6625
      @thegeforce6625 2 роки тому +58

      for me its mainly input lag, their drivers usually add a crapload of input lag that drives me nuts, am also going to look at it a little different now.

    • @NavinF
      @NavinF 2 роки тому +17

      @@thegeforce6625 Ehh anyone that cares about input lag uses a mouse

    • @thegeforce6625
      @thegeforce6625 2 роки тому +47

      @@NavinF I’m not talking about gaming, I’m talking about how the amount of input lag was so extreme it made moving the cursor quickly and accurately in basic windows desktop usage very difficult to borderline impossible, I mean, the basic Microsoft PS/2 mouse drivers on the same touchpad hardware have orders of magnitude less input lag, to the point I couldn’t detect any.
      Someone at Synaptics really needs to clean up and streamline the codepath for translating finger movements and gestures to operating system actions.

    • @circuit10
      @circuit10 2 роки тому +17

      @@thegeforce6625 I’ve had the same thing (not sure if it’s a Synaptics touchpad or not) though it’s intermittent and happens under Linux too, so it can’t be the driver unless they use the same drivers on Linux, I think it’s a hardware thing (maybe I got water in it or something)

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb 2 роки тому +1470

    Logitech cheaping out and ruining a product? Some things sure don't change!

    • @Iisakki3000
      @Iisakki3000 2 роки тому +66

      Almost like most laptops with synaptics pads don't suck ass to use 😅

    • @TheDragonfriday
      @TheDragonfriday 2 роки тому +11

      Anything to save money making parts cheaper

    • @Volkswagen_Yeetle
      @Volkswagen_Yeetle 2 роки тому +24

      You forgot the part where they overprice the product.

    • @The_Mess85
      @The_Mess85 2 роки тому +16

      It's annoying too, since they used to make hard-wearing mice, heck, my 2nd G9 still works despite all the abuse it's suffered (aside from no extra buttons due a broken ribbon cable), but my G502's middle mouse button broke a month after the warranty expired. I unfortunately had to go with another once, but next year I'll replace it with probably an ASUS one.

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 2 роки тому +4

      @@The_Mess85 razer viper is the best mouse. i own the mini and has been awesome.

  • @OfficialDJSoru
    @OfficialDJSoru 2 роки тому +347

    Synaptics being able to deliver the touchpads in one week for such a large request reminds me of how IBM kept making machines avoided firing staff during the 1920's depression, and when the US government needed tabulation machines to work the social security entries of the entire population, IBM just showed up with a surplus stock of machines ready to send out, guaranteeing the extremely profitable contract.
    Yes, IBM is that old, and yes, I had to do a work on their timeline of business practices. The number of things IBM's engineers were behind the creation of makes me think Alex here will eventually talk about the company in future videos.

    • @Ironclad17
      @Ironclad17 2 роки тому +2

      One example is a scale for pricing and cutting wheels of cheese.

    • @denawiltsie4412
      @denawiltsie4412 Рік тому +14

      If you read IBM and the Holocaust, you will discover that IBM continued to deal with Germany throughout WWII. Remember that Europe recovered from the great depression fairly quickly so even if machines weren't selling well in the U.S. they were selling overseas. IBM has hid this part of their history however if there was anything untrue in the book, IBM would have taken the author into court.

    • @OfficialDJSoru
      @OfficialDJSoru Рік тому

      @@denawiltsie4412 I had to look them up when studying the processes they had to do through the years to be in business, and most of my source was through their own publicly accessible archives. I can say at the time I checked they did not deny still running the German branch during that time

    • @denawiltsie4412
      @denawiltsie4412 Рік тому +9

      @@OfficialDJSoru You are correct about them not denying it however their archives have been sanitized. They were very careful to remain isolated at least in the public view but there are questions about back door communications. When IBM and the Holocaust was being written, the author was denied access to the IBM archives. The information had to be gathered from other sources that IBM didn't have direct control over. Many of these records involve government records such as purchases and day to day business. The amount of research in the book is huge and it tells one of those stories hidden in history.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 9 місяців тому +1

      Rule of acquisition #9: Opportunity plus instinct equals profit.

  • @Faruq-xn4gj
    @Faruq-xn4gj 2 роки тому +944

    You a lucky man Alex, meeting the father who make the foundation of modern technology.

    • @LowSpecGamer
      @LowSpecGamer  2 роки тому +107

      Highlight of this series so far for sure.

    • @leGUIGUI
      @leGUIGUI 2 роки тому +26

      @@LowSpecGamer Had he seen your Zilog vid before you contacted him? Is it part of the reason he agreed to the interview?

    • @LowSpecGamer
      @LowSpecGamer  2 роки тому +57

      Yes. Someone from his family saw the original video and sent it to him

    • @nnnnnn3647
      @nnnnnn3647 2 роки тому +8

      Father of windows laptops disaster. After 40 years all windows touchpads are still crap compared to Apple.

    • @tojiroh
      @tojiroh 2 роки тому +21

      @@nnnnnn3647 found the Apple fanboy!

  • @computer_toucher
    @computer_toucher 2 роки тому +364

    You actually got an interview with signore Faggin! As a nerd who's followed IT history since the mid-90s, your videos are top notch -- much because you always manage to dig up tidbits that complement the stories that I thought were done told already. Awesome work.

  • @ElNeroDiablo
    @ElNeroDiablo 2 роки тому +45

    Dang, not only did he help kick off Intel's dominance with the x86 microprocessor spec we use for most desktops and laptops today, he also gave us Zilog and the Z80 that is still powering low-power portable devices today and for over 30 years such as the Gameboy & Gameboy Color, and worked with two of the biggest mouse/touchpad/trackpad creators in the market... AND you got to interview Signore Faggin!
    And on top of that he's one that helped bring touchscreens to dominance for portable device interfaces, such you can hardly find a handheld device in the past 10-15 years that *doesn't* have some form of touchscreen input!

  • @jimtekkit
    @jimtekkit 2 роки тому +63

    **Flies all the way to Italy for confirmation** "Oh well they asked me" Classic!
    Of course it goes without saying, Mr F.F. himself is a legend and I'm glad that the Exxon takeover wasn't the end of his very influential career.

  • @GianmarioScotti
    @GianmarioScotti 2 роки тому +36

    The interview with Faggin was the golden point of this video - and it was super-unexpected! I am so happy to see that the man is still going strong.

  • @denyereduardopuentes4410
    @denyereduardopuentes4410 2 роки тому +345

    Alex, i am so happy for you today!... It's amazing to see the quality improve on your products and also bring the involved people itself to the video it's like seeing a titan growing!
    Thanks man. This is quality content here.
    Greettings from Colombia!

    • @LowSpecGamer
      @LowSpecGamer  2 роки тому +17

      🙌

    • @alexrose1ukv2
      @alexrose1ukv2 2 роки тому +6

      @@LowSpecGamer your quality improves and you are hitting a niche very few others properly cover, and you cover it well. Love the new content, maybe one day we will see a return of the old style content, but we love what you do so keep doing it :)

    • @nnnnnn3647
      @nnnnnn3647 2 роки тому

      Synaptics touchpad was so bad that everybody have to use logitech mouse.

  • @nrdesign1991
    @nrdesign1991 2 роки тому +54

    Pretty much every laptop i ever owned that had a touchpad had a Synaptics pad in it

  • @carllinden533
    @carllinden533 2 роки тому +98

    Was half expecting them to be responsible for Logitech's bug, like some sort of sabotage. Feels good knowing that quality wins in the short term sometimes, and in the end it always does.

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson 22 дні тому

      I'm surprised now one picked up that when Logitech offered a really shitty contract that basically meant they want to jump ship to a different company but sneakily

  • @mariolis
    @mariolis Рік тому +43

    What a tragedy ... the inventor of touchpads , touchscreens and the first microporocessor to market ... and barely anyone knows his name

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 9 місяців тому

      Is he an inventor? He's just a businessman

    • @SergeantExtreme
      @SergeantExtreme 9 місяців тому +11

      @@Ubeogesh Wrong. Faggin was an engineer not a businessman. In fact, his lack of business knowledge was what almost drove Zilog into the ground.

    • @OversleptGamer
      @OversleptGamer 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Ubeogeshamericanoid detected, opinion rejected

    • @matteofalduto766
      @matteofalduto766 4 місяці тому

      @@Ubeogesh Are you joking, right? In the 60s this man, working at Intel, singlehandedly invented both the modern CPU and the integrated circuitry underpinning it.

  • @angelitobizcochito
    @angelitobizcochito 2 роки тому +28

    When Alex uploads both english/spanish videos at the same time and I can’t decide wich one to see

  • @boredandagitated
    @boredandagitated 2 роки тому +17

    Interviewing people like this is so important! This is primary source creation that history and research runs on! Thank you for doing it

  • @Realunmaker
    @Realunmaker 2 роки тому +29

    I know I’m a softball and it’s so random but I actually felt emotional seeing you interviewing Mr Faggin. I’ve been following your content for some years now and to see how you keep growing and improving your channel is really inspiring and moving

  • @ischmidt
    @ischmidt 11 місяців тому +7

    One clarification on the OTP parts: those can be flashed once at the factory. They're blank before that. So running changes are much easier than with masked parts, but you can't ship an update to customers like is common now.

    • @thomaslienert4225
      @thomaslienert4225 8 місяців тому +1

      That part could have been clearer, the masked parts (as used by Logitech) are programmed at the chip manufacturer (Zilog), and if something goes wrong, you had to order a new batch with revised programming (after doing and validating that - typically on OTP versions). With OTPs you programmed them on your (Symantec's) site, maybe even mounted on the production board. When I worked in embedded electionics (at the end of the last millenium :-) we did development on EEPROMs, the first 3 months of production on OTPs, and only then went masked.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 2 роки тому +47

    LowSpecGamer's vids are getting better and better. The actual interview was an unexpected but pleasant surprise.
    Also, turning the Logitech logo into a mask was inspired.

  • @DylanChau
    @DylanChau 2 роки тому +64

    A very interesting piece of history that you've unearthed! I really enjoy learning technology history in this kind of fashion. Keep up the great work!

  • @Luke-qs2cg
    @Luke-qs2cg 2 роки тому +91

    This was probably the coolest series of videos I've ever seen. Linus be fucking damned. Dude. This is QUALITY content.

  • @RedBeardMachine
    @RedBeardMachine 2 роки тому +9

    This dude did better research than most of the docuseries I've seen. I've never been more tempted to get a nebula subscription.

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier 2 роки тому

      Nebula is worth it IMO. Lots of great creators on it.
      Curiosity Stream is sort of meh... but whatever.

  • @lukasmarik6580
    @lukasmarik6580 2 роки тому +10

    This is straight up AMAZING! I remember watching your channel so I can get every frame out of my iGPU and now, I just love to watch your videos even more. Those illustrations, animations and now.. a documentary. I praise you, LowSpec! 10/10 UA-cam content creator and much, much more! Thank you for pushing the boundaries even further with your creativity !

  • @musicanime1285
    @musicanime1285 2 роки тому +7

    I love learning about the history of tech especially through your high energy animated videos! It's also so cool you got an interview with Faggin!!

  • @phoenix0828
    @phoenix0828 2 роки тому +22

    I really love how the quality of your videos has risen again! You're one of the best people to watch about stuff like this

  • @pooksthepossum
    @pooksthepossum 2 роки тому +15

    Amazingly well done video! Loved LSG for years helping my potatos run video games. This video gets an A+ more of these please.

  • @انا_ابراهيم_البناوي

    the thumbnail is top-notch quality and the whole video actually

  • @tamegaming1768
    @tamegaming1768 2 роки тому +3

    Amazing storytelling AND illustration! What a madlad Faggin was for letting you interview him. Fantastic vid

  • @limemyth
    @limemyth 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, you actually got a hold of Mr. Faggin! It must've been a great honor to be able to interview him.
    Another great video! You have a unique style that is very engaging and entertaining to watch, and I can't wait to see more in the future! :)

  • @mineland8220
    @mineland8220 2 роки тому +11

    Really interesting to see how this all went out. The production of these video docs hadn't failed to keep me engaged. Simply great work from everyone involved

  • @sabastianleisek396
    @sabastianleisek396 2 роки тому +2

    I'm loving how you have grown your channel. You went from helping poor people (like myself) get an extra few fps, to full on documenting history throughout the tech industry.

  • @sherwinfernandes4061
    @sherwinfernandes4061 2 роки тому +4

    Great video.
    Its always nice to hear developers talks about their projects and Mr. Faggin seemed really excited about it.

  • @phenixnunlee372
    @phenixnunlee372 2 роки тому +1

    Bro this shot is beautiful for the interview wow.

  • @MoebiusPan
    @MoebiusPan 2 роки тому +9

    Excellent video, and very informative! My one nitpick would be in the interview part: if your interviewee is facing to the left, on the cut it's better if you face the other side. It presents a more spatially coherent image for the viewer.

    • @LowSpecGamer
      @LowSpecGamer  2 роки тому +8

      Yep. We had to improvise the hell out of this one because the apartment was small and we had a very limited time window, so we spent most of the time setting his camera and then had to absolutely rush mine so the angle is all wrong. It has been bugging me for a month while editing, but it was the best we could do at the time

    • @MoebiusPan
      @MoebiusPan 2 роки тому +4

      @@LowSpecGamer That's cool! The video was pretty clear, so that was just me being nitpicky. The editing is spot on, no complaints at all! And of course the research, interview and presentation are top notch. Thank you for your work!

  • @federicodebiasi6228
    @federicodebiasi6228 2 роки тому +1

    Wow I can’t believe that you came here in Italy to interview Faggin himself! That’s so good 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @bernard_cheng
    @bernard_cheng 2 роки тому +39

    Great work! Such an engaging story to tell - it's been impressive to watch your transformation from tweaking games beyond recognition to being a full blown story teller.

  • @Josh-99
    @Josh-99 2 роки тому +2

    I just learned why I have had Synaptics stuff on my laptops for literal decades. I always thought it was an off-brand replacement used in laptops to keep prices down, not the leading manufacturer of touchpads in the world.
    Great video!

  • @OhadLutzky
    @OhadLutzky 2 роки тому +9

    I pride myself in being somewhat knowledgeable about PC history, and this whole topic is one I was completely oblivious to. Amazingly well-put-together, and sealed with a teaser that is probably the best damned ad for Nebula I've seen so far.

  • @RamkrishanYT
    @RamkrishanYT 2 роки тому +2

    Loving the transition from configuring video games to doing microprocessors and silicon stories

  • @tyrianzero01
    @tyrianzero01 2 роки тому +6

    Man, I absolutely love how you've been evolving the channel with each video. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @EdgyShooter
    @EdgyShooter 9 місяців тому +1

    UA-cam is really blessing you today, firstly by telling me to rewatch this, and then every single video under this, bar about three, are yours!

  • @Robert-nz2qw
    @Robert-nz2qw 2 роки тому +6

    This is real content. Love it! And you earned 1024 XP for meeting Faggin!

  • @dbrokensoul
    @dbrokensoul 2 роки тому +5

    What a high quality content! I've never been this tempted to subscribe to Nebula. There's not a lot that I want to watch there, but ALL of the Side Quest contents sounds really amazing.

  • @diegazo12396
    @diegazo12396 2 роки тому +4

    I usually never comment on videos, but man content like this deserves to be shared, one of the best quality content out there

  • @s0kulite
    @s0kulite 2 роки тому

    The interview, graphics, storytelling, guest voice actors, and YOU! This was one hell of a production, I never expected more outside low resolution gameplay, but you proved me wrong.
    Great video bud!

  • @Matt_Duke
    @Matt_Duke 2 роки тому +39

    Alex your content has always been great, but my man this is a whole new level! From the good old days of running doom on athlons to interviewing unsung legends of the computing industry. Keep it up dude!

  • @mejimix
    @mejimix 2 роки тому +1

    You are taking this job very seriously. Congrats!

  • @Fernando-ek8jp
    @Fernando-ek8jp 2 роки тому +5

    This is close to being my favorite channel. I actually subscribed to Nebula/Curiosity stream mainly because of you. Amazing content, incredibly engaging production

  • @sangkang6294
    @sangkang6294 2 роки тому +1

    The drama of deceit and betrayal only next to Game of Thone is the tech world.

  • @jensenraylight8011
    @jensenraylight8011 2 роки тому +3

    the Zilog video successfully build the momentum preparing us before we face the Boss himself.

  • @krisyannuruha5147
    @krisyannuruha5147 2 роки тому

    TBH to think that this level of quallity of documentary on youtube for free is amazing. Thank you so much

  • @GoldenBeholden
    @GoldenBeholden 2 роки тому +5

    I've been subscribed to you for ages, and your channel has really started to remind me of LEMMiNO. He started out as doing top 10 lists, but he eventually turned around and started doing documentaries. I just really hope you'll find your audience like he did -- seeing videos on this channel with fewer than 100k views is just insane. Not just because this kind of quality content warrants way more attention, but also because the production value can afford to reach even greater heights once you start earning the big bucks. Keep it up!

  • @halo4life166
    @halo4life166 2 роки тому +1

    Huge respect for actually traveling there. Whoa! this is awesome!

  • @igse2835
    @igse2835 2 роки тому +10

    Your videos are always amazing, but this time you threw it out of the park!!! Amazing content! As soon as I can I'm signing to nebula. Thank you for your work

  • @thewat668
    @thewat668 2 роки тому +1

    I totally forgot about this channel as I wasn't invested in PC hardware anymore, genius move with the switch in content, not alot of tech historians on here with this level of production

  • @harshitjoshi3082
    @harshitjoshi3082 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for making this, the quality and dedication is impressive 🌟

  • @maciejprokop2001
    @maciejprokop2001 2 роки тому +2

    Oh man this is QUALITY content! I love the fact, that you interviewed Mr. Faggin, AWESOME!

  • @Zim0256
    @Zim0256 2 роки тому +6

    It is so sad to see the technology behind the perfect touchpad, by Synaptics, being killed by the new generic driver from Microsoft. My new laptop has a Synaptics touch pad but it is nearly unusable as I can't load the Synaptics control panel, relying instead on the Windows 10 driver.

  • @glitchy_weasel
    @glitchy_weasel 9 місяців тому

    What a phenomenal video!
    It's so nice you took the time to visit Italy and interview Mr. Faggin in person. The production quality of this video is incredible!
    Will definitely check out the rest of your channel.

  • @benjaminhaines6565
    @benjaminhaines6565 2 роки тому +3

    Absolutely love the new direction of the channel. These docs are awesome! Keep up the great work man! 👍

  • @zonemyparkour
    @zonemyparkour 2 роки тому +1

    Alex my mate, I am honored to see your Chanel going into a seriously growing direction. Good job mate! I was here just for record when you started off !

  • @always1shot55
    @always1shot55 2 роки тому +2

    The Quality of your newest Videos is amazing. Keep it up

  •  2 роки тому +1

    Amazing! I was liking the whole debacle of Mr. Faggin and you interviewed him!

  • @The_Sofa_King
    @The_Sofa_King 2 роки тому +5

    The drawings in these videos are so good!

  • @enderjed2523
    @enderjed2523 2 роки тому +1

    Interviews?
    You’ve really blown expectations away, the production value is just insane at this point.

  • @JonoSSD
    @JonoSSD 2 роки тому +6

    Imo Logitech's worst nightmare is decent plastic, because I have owned multiple products from various price ranges from the company and they can't make a decent piece of plastic that won't completely fall apart in less than 6 months to save their life.

  • @aladinz88
    @aladinz88 2 роки тому +2

    to be honest, i was thinking a story about touchpad would be boring. But then i was thinking, when LowSpecGamer makes a story, it could be interresting. Man I was right :D Very nice interview. I hope you have the funds and passion to get more interviews in the future. Much respect and good luck Alex!

  • @reighaillness
    @reighaillness 2 роки тому +4

    Love the Naoki Urasawa inspired drawing there.

  • @InCaldera
    @InCaldera 2 роки тому +2

    Its been a pleasure to watch your videos so dramatically improve in scope, scale and presentation over the last 2 years. Well done!

  • @DimNussens
    @DimNussens 2 роки тому +9

    LSG, you're one of the best tech investigative journalists now, these videos are amazing!

  • @NatiiixLP
    @NatiiixLP 2 роки тому +1

    Love it! The story, the twists, the stock footage for illustration, and of course... the effects! You're killing me, man!
    The moment I heard Synaptics mentioned in the video, I instantly remembered seeing that name in the context of Windows drivers hundreds of times, and yet I had almost no idea what the company actually produced. Well, now I know.

  • @noahflare6825
    @noahflare6825 2 роки тому +3

    Wow, this is such an amazing piece of journalism. Keep it up!

  • @ClappOnUpp
    @ClappOnUpp Рік тому +1

    A few months later and I'm watching this video again. So well made. This guy is so interesting to watch in an interview. I could watch more videos on his story for sure

  • @wheatlysparble7900
    @wheatlysparble7900 2 роки тому +3

    I love these history/explainer videos so muchhh!!

  • @mojoxide
    @mojoxide 2 роки тому +2

    Holy Ship!!!!! What a story! The Interview!! The animation!!! Please keep it up!!

  • @jinzhanghsu4253
    @jinzhanghsu4253 2 роки тому +13

    wow! never know there is such an interesting story behind synaptics! I am a heavy trackpad user and i basically couldn't live without it so thank you Mr. Faggin!

  • @earthling_parth
    @earthling_parth Рік тому +1

    I can't believe you actually met the legend Federico Faggin himself! I'm only at the beginning of the video but I already know that it's going to be a banger from your other videos Alex ❤️

  • @alexander1989x
    @alexander1989x 2 роки тому +6

    Strange to think Logitech would've made touchpads. The only ones I was able to see were: Synaptics of US, Alps of Japan and Elan of Taiwan.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 2 роки тому +1

      My first laptop had a Cirque-designed touchpad and from what I can tell most of these were manufactured by Alps. Later on Alps would completely take over Cirque.

  • @FernandoPonteFilho
    @FernandoPonteFilho 2 роки тому +2

    Nice documentary and editing! Thanks to bring us this great piece of history.

  • @FaizKTG
    @FaizKTG 2 роки тому +3

    Alex, I'm beyond impressed of your videos! Everytime they manage to do the unexpectable, and always they are interesting and entertaining. Keep them coming!

  • @taxman3749
    @taxman3749 2 роки тому +1

    You don't usually even get quality like this from so-called 'mainstream' documentaries.
    I love it! I can't wait to watch more.

  • @hyoenmadan
    @hyoenmadan 2 роки тому +5

    Interesting how both Alps(Cirque) and Synaptics ended doing Trackpoint/Touchpad combos for IBM(Lenovo) and Dell Latitude and Thinkpad series of laptops, because touchpad couldn't cut on customers who type lots on their laptops. Once you are used to it, trackpoint is insuperable when you have to use the cursor while keeping the hands in the keyboard.

    • @rising_fredo_pixel
      @rising_fredo_pixel 2 роки тому

      What's the trackpoint? Is that kind of red joystick on Thinkpad notebooks?

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 роки тому +1

      @@rising_fredo_pixel exactly, though it was on almost all competitors too in the 90s

    • @n_core
      @n_core 2 роки тому

      How people get used to it though?
      I have one on my ThinkPad laptop and never gotten used to it because I can reach the touchpad easily with my left thumb.
      Also you can't press on it so I think it was pointless since your thumb must reach the touchpad's button anyway.
      This is one of the things I don't understand about the ThinkPad lineup, where they have this nipple thing in the middle of the keyboard, and also Fn and Left Ctrl button is switched which is bad in ergonomically speaking.

    • @hyoenmadan
      @hyoenmadan 2 роки тому

      @@n_core Trackpoint? Easy. If you type properly (using both hands and your five fingers on them, instead only 2 or 3), Trackpoint fits the configuration just naturally (any of your index fingers to move the track, thumbs to press the track left, right and middle buttons (DON'T CONFUSE THEM WITH TOUCHPAD BUTTONS, trackpoint have their own set near the spacebar)), and you can move cursor while typing with no extra move to search the touchpad with you thumb (and this also reliefs a bit of thumb stress). IBM/Synaptics one was specially nice to use. Lenovo ones have a bit less quality depending on the batch(some use Synaptics one, others use Alps one, less good), but Dell one is a bit of trashy (Many of them use Alps/Elan trash combo, how the nerve). People also disables touchpad, specially big ones, because them interfere in the colocation of both hands in the laptop palmrest. At least while being in a long typing session.
      About the Fn - Ctrl thing... Well that's an unrelated topic for other day. But TL;DR speaking, has to do with the position of the combination of Ctrl-(x)(c)(v) keys and your pinky. Maybe that was relevant to some big IBM customers back then, and it isn't anymore, but they still do it as brand distinction (Lenovo isn't IBM, they just keep using what they bought from IBM).

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 2 роки тому

      @@n_core It's easy to get used to the Trackpoint when it's your laptop's only pointing device. On top of that you can move the cursor with both speed and precision. With older Touchpads it would either be hard to make precision movements or you would need to swipe multiple times to go from one side of the screen to the other.
      And by the way, you can press on a Trackpoint. Starting with the revision released in 1998 you can enable tap to click in the options if you so desire.

  • @dany_fg
    @dany_fg 2 роки тому +2

    the book doesn't say...
    well, time to meet a legend

  • @TDGalea
    @TDGalea 2 роки тому +8

    Honestly, touchpads (and certainly touch screens these days) are taken so for granted, but the tech behind them is insanely complex when you think about it. Likewise with a normal mouse.
    This is an amazing documentary that I'd expect to see on TV, not UA-cam.

  • @algiffaryriony
    @algiffaryriony 2 роки тому +1

    The content, the flow, and the editing, they are all top notch!

  • @cattysplat
    @cattysplat 2 роки тому +10

    People don't give touch pads enough credit. They made the all in 1 computer device very much a reality without having to need a flat desk surface and drag jumble of tangled wires and cables to simply get started.

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH 2 роки тому +1

      Kind of get it but for me they will never be great because i see them as just emergency use to do the most basic since i still find them awkward to use. Even when i take my laptop outside i always have a wireless mouse in the bag.
      I actually think is a struggle to get things done on a touch pad. So for me yes they are important to a certain degree but they are not a technology that made anything better, is just a technology that allows a device to be sold as one piece.
      Even when i have a laptop on my legs i can find using the mouse on my leg easier than a touchpad.

    • @maybSSBM
      @maybSSBM 2 роки тому

      @@SIPEROTH using a mouse on your leg easier than touchpad lol

  • @thehellsage
    @thehellsage 2 роки тому +1

    This was incredible, Alex and team!
    Now, to go rewatch this and Sidequest on Nebula... I could listen to Federico Faggin talk about his stories for hours.

  • @Vengieo
    @Vengieo 2 роки тому +8

    I LOVE that you were able to do this! Please keep making videos like this. I loved your channel to start with but it is mind blowing that you took a idea and made it better. You're a mad lad!

  • @shariarrahman7562
    @shariarrahman7562 2 роки тому +1

    I look forward to all of your videos ever since you pivoted. You have never dissapointed. Keep going man

  • @ReProjectSD
    @ReProjectSD 2 роки тому +3

    Your artist is GOAT.

  • @andrekz9138
    @andrekz9138 2 роки тому +1

    FanTASTIC video. This is fun, interesting journalism on a topic I enjoy, teaching me about the undying heroes of history.
    Btw, the mouse on Logitech's shoulder is a powerful, small metaphor that I hope many people don't miss.

  • @chestermc9954
    @chestermc9954 2 роки тому +10

    Straight up some of the best content on UA-cam, great job Alex! Can't wait for the next one!

  • @facundofortes7912
    @facundofortes7912 2 роки тому +1

    As a very early follower of the channel I have to praise the massive leap in production quality. The original LSG product was great but this is in a whole different level, I felt it was first party documentary right out of a big cable TV network. Just amazing! Keep up the good work!

  • @theclovercross
    @theclovercross 2 роки тому +8

    Love the build up of all these videos with how Faggin worked in the industry here and there and NOW THIS! you are a legend! I'm glad I signed up for Nebula~

  • @serafimhacker
    @serafimhacker 6 місяців тому

    the fact you made Mr.Faggin Throw Logitech at 12:30 is crazy, You deserve my sub and like man

  • @IrrationalDelusion
    @IrrationalDelusion 2 роки тому +5

    Meanwhile Elan touchpads really suck and most laptops that aren't premium build(like Microsoft Surface, Dell XPS, top gaming laptops) haven't got any alternative to Apple flawless tracking.

    • @scottdotjazzman
      @scottdotjazzman 2 роки тому +1

      Even premium touchpads suck compared to the apple trackpad. I dunno why exactly, but the latency is still too high for truly comfortable use. Same goes for non-iDevice touchscreens. Rather annoying, since I'm not an Apple fanboy.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 2 роки тому

      It is usually just drivers. The hardware is all the same from Symantics. But yes, for some reason windows drivers are all crap. I can only live with touchpads in Linux.

  • @danielwoods7325
    @danielwoods7325 2 роки тому

    LOVE that you tracked down and interviewed the man himself! Great video.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, Federico Faggin is from my hometown?
    Also, the trackball is NOT an awkward device. I use them to this very day. I actually prefer them to touchpads. I concede they do take up a lot of space in a laptop, though.

  • @moonlambo5229
    @moonlambo5229 2 роки тому

    Awesome video man! So cool you got an interview with Mr. Faggin.