Those Italians love the American Old West and it's cool they keep producing replicas of the Old West guns. Love the firing pin vs the transfer bar. Just so much more authentic looking. -Jen
Yeah, the "distinction" between pistol and revolver is a very recent fabrication of the late 20th century. To be honest, I didn't really hear it in common "tacticool" jargon until post 2000. When the 1873 was made that distinction was non existent.
He's so right about the plating. I bought a pair of S&W Model 15s back in the day, one in chrome plate and one in nickel. Well the nickel plating had a couple of quarter inch bubbles where the the plating didn't adhere to the base metal. That bothered me until someone robbed my house and stole it from me. Never saw it again. ^..^~~
That's a beautiful pistol you have there. A revolver is also classified as a pistol. I would love to have a Cimarron the one I held had a great lockup and cylinder roll.
I picked one up 14 hours ago, I seen it three weeks ago and after coming home from the shooting range to the gun shop, I snaped it up (Mines not nickel plated like yours though). another reason I bought the gun is because I already have three western belt holster set for a 38 special colt 45. designed gun, So I needed a gun to go along with those holsters (sad note that the belts are too short for I've gained weight).
Thanks for another great single action revolver review. The non-transfer-bar variants by Pietta are my favorite "Colt clone"; EMF (Early and Modern Firearms) carries several variants; at one time they were the primary (if not sole) importer of Pietta cartridge revolvers that are now coming in from other importers including Cimarron and Taylors. The .38/.357 is the most popular chambering among cowboy action shooters because the smaller caliber is cheaper to feed and easier to shoot quickly. The smaller bore means a heavier revolver than the same gun chambered in .44 or .45 caliber and they handle .357 loads pretty well. With a light .38 Special load it's a real pussycat. A small caliber single action revolver is not just a modern invention; Wild Bill Hickok was known for carrying a brace of 1851 Navy revolvers in .36 caliber which would be similar to a .38 Special with a lightweight bullet. Although .45 Colt was the most common chambering for the Colt Single Action Army revolver, it was also offered (in the 1800s) in .38-40 (actually a .40 caliber round), .32-20 and .38 Long Colt. After the turn of the century Colt began chambering the SAA in .38 Special and .357 Magnum. You mentioned the versatility of the .357 Magnum revolver which is probably its greatest attribute. For those of us who appreciate Old West guns, the .38 Special works well as a "frontier cartridge", that is, a cartridge charged with black powder. It gives a very satisfying "boom" and cloud of smoke with manageable recoil.
A single action shooting tip. Hook your pinky finger under the grip. Kees the revolver rom rotating up in the hand. Better control and comes back on target quicker
I have the 45 Colt long Cimarron nickel-plated and shoot really well... You have to position the cylinder just right to load and unload .. It is finicky !!! I love the gun
My understanding is that these are steel frame revolvers with brass backstrap and trigger. Found out the nickel revolvers have a steel back strap and trigger guard. A bonus
One correction to what you said about the firing pin is it is not actually fixed. It is redesigned to prevent hammer stuck firing. Brandon Herrera did a video on this exact pistol demonstrating the floating firing pin. I've personally taken a primed round and tried to set it off by smashing the hammer with a rubber mallet and had no luck setting it off.
I have a sa 1873 Pietta 3 1/2 Posse very nice , smooth revolver . Didn’t care for the wood grips so I fitted some Colt replica grips, black horse and eagle , whichI prefer on my blued Colts. The Wood imho, look lousy on a nickel sa revolver. Pietta and NC Ordnance make nice replica poly ivory and other grips. If Pietta was smart, they would offer a 3rd Gen revolver witha Colt 3rd Gen grip frame and US spec threads and screws as well as a stock pin in the grip frame. Would make customizing a lot easier
I recently bought on of these, and it is very well made, and for some reason, is less expensive than other Colt clones in the Cimarron line. Maybe it has something to do with the blued version having a brass back strap and trigger guard...brass being cheaper? But the nickel plated version is all steel. Additionally, it seems to come with a tuned action. My hammer pull is light and the action ultra smooth. You would normally have to pay extra for that. I had to file the front sight down on mine to correct for it shooting low, but that's common. A good gun at a bargain.
I have to disagree with you a bit, what you are holding in your Hand in this video is absolutely, a Pistol. History refers to the SAA Gun as a Pistol. What you said is correct in the general sense, but, a Single Action Revolver is historically known as a Pistol! Cool video!
Beautiful......I had the same caliber in Ruger Vaquero........loved how it looked, but I am 63yo and my eyes are not that good.........couldnt hit anything........I really tried but just couldn't get it. Hope you do great with it
@@stephengagliano3831 you have been blessed with great eyes....I am getting ready to be 66yo and my eyesight has steadily decreased......have a great Memorial Day Weekend
I have a Taylor and company. 357 Devil Anse 1873 and it only has 3 hammer clicks, however the cylinder pin is all the way in for authenticity unlike this one. Idk, I'd rather have the authentic 4 colt clicks and sacrifice pin size. Why they can't 1:1 replicate that I don't know. I also noticed how not smooth the ejector rod is by getting caught on the walls of the chamber. Mine also has that safety firing pin that moves back and forth until the trigger is pressed making it stiff. That's how they get away with making the cylinder pin go all the way in like the colts did, because they don't need the extra notch for the pin safety.
IIRC They were originally “ Revolving Pistols “. Later abbreviated. Colts were boudoir pistols which caused that company to fail. Belt model Patterson five shots were the exception, and lead to the Walker six shooter, for U.S. mounted rifles, after the Seminole wars died down. The traveling “Sam Colt’s Private firearms collection” is worth the admission price, and shows boudoir toys transitioning to Capt. Walker’s personal Colt Walker which was returned to Sam Colt after Walker’s death at Veracruz, Mexico. For me, this “revolver” is the Holy Grail of western Americana. But try to visit this exposition and decide this question for yourselves.
In Spanish, pistola.....they were pistolero's before the auto came out.....so it is a pistol.....just saying....check the term pistol in Webster's.....you will stand corrected.....😜
Correct. I believe it became the practice long about the early to mid 19th century to coin the term "revolver" to distinguish the then new repeating -revolving cylinder handgun from the earlier single shot black-powder flintlock and caplock pistols(and that's what those were certainly called, pistols) from the previous gun development period.
@@steelgila A *"Pistol"* is a handgun not a Rifle, it can be a revolver or single shot breach-break, single shot bolt action or semi/full auto. Just like an *"Album"* is a musical offering from a musician or band, an *album* can be on CD, Cassette, LP or digital drive, thumb, etc. You can get the Beatles White *Album* on LP, CD, Streaming, etc.
Just purchase one and I am looking for a video on how to totally disassemble and reassemble. I have field stripped it for cleaning, but a little hesitant on going further.
Alright, I am against plating in this day and age. A fully polished stainless steel will give you the look pretty much, without giving you the bad side as the plating wears off. I'm not saying I wouldn't consider it. But I think at the prices these guns go for, I wouldn't be likely to buy plated. 🤔
Cock hammer to first click push disassembly pin twords back of handle.. it will keep your firing pin from resting on anything chambered if you decided to carry 6 rounds.
Hello Friend. Do you see much difference in this weapon quality for an Uberti El Patron or a Tylor? Which would be better in terms of quality, machining, and fitting of parts. Thank you, I await the reply.
What's the difference between all the uberti and cimmaron, etc single action revolvers they all look the same to me is it just finish and options when ordering? I want to get one but don't know which one. Every time I see a review they go over the same features. Not their fault but the guns to me seem to be made the same except finish, grips, and sometimes the safety feature of the hammer depending on whatever gun you choose am I correct? Are these the only differences? Edit: I guess I forgot caliber sizes which I feel is irrevelant. Caliber sizes are easy to distinguish so...
Cimmaron and Taylor's &co are importers of uberti and pieta Italian clones, the majority of of them are uberti ,as far as purchasing an uberti from uberti you get what they mass manufacture which is not bad but Taylor's has transfer bars which makes it safe"er" to carry 6 where as cimmaron has the classic hammer ,if you have a transfer bars you will not have the 4 c.o.l.t clicks when cocking which is a deal breaker for some people ,Taylor's and cimmaron order with custom features such as grips and hammer,ect, many cimmaron are worked over buy a gun Smith for better trigger ,pietta on the other hand is where heritage big bore orders the components for their models and are usually a bit cheaper and years ago had a reputation of not being near as reliable as uberti however I hear they are about the same today,can't confirm that though ,to import in the us a safety MUST be present so Taylor's and uberti themselves import with transfer bars and cimmaron managed to find a loophole buy making a longer base pin with a notch that can be pushed back to block the hammer allowing them to legally import near identical clones that are highly desirable to collectors and cowboy action shooters with the modelP being the most desirable and the also have a worked over competition model of the model p called the evil roy that is very well respected....I gues basically uberti,Taylor's,and cimmaron are Almost all ubertis with the exception of pistolero being pieta and frontiers also pieta ,the rest is cosmetic options from importers to suit your liking, I personally like a couple Taylor's catttlemans on the ranch and love the model p for fun,I have not yet had anything pieta or pieta parts
My Taylor and Company .357 Devil Anse doesn't have the 2 notch rod, but instead a firing pin that is loose until the trigger is depressed making it stiff, so I get the proper cylinder rod length, no transfer bar, but for some reason still only 3 clicks.
It wouldn't have mattered. Back when I did these most were four-click, but that all went away a few years ago when most manufacturers moved to transfer-bar safeties. Same make and model, but in fact a different gun.
I have a pietta 45 LC. Smooth and no more than I know was able to slick it up my self. Do watch the screws havent lost any but did have to tighten them. This pistol is so fun to shoot. Saving up for another in 357
Ok, I gotta say it. Revolvers were called pistols be for semiautos were ever made. The revolver vs semiautos pistol naming is just stupid. A pistol is a one hand sort barrel gun period. A revolver is just one type of pistol, as the semi auto is another. This my opinion and I just don't give a shit who might think differently. It's the truth. 🤣😝
I love my gun, but did not know you could not use it in Competition if you are going to fan it, my floating pin moves all over the place and want strike the primers, contacted them after 30 days you are on your own, I ask for a replacment hammer with a pin that was not loose and wobbly. They told me I had to buy it. Dont buy this gun unless it is just for plinking that's all it is good for.
The term ''pistol'' was being used to describe handguns, including revolvers, for a century before semi-autos came along.
The pietta single actions are so smooth and easy to use. Definitely a wise investment.
Those Italians love the American Old West and it's cool they keep producing replicas of the Old West guns. Love the firing pin vs the transfer bar. Just so much more authentic looking.
-Jen
They made some of the best Western movies ever.
the term pistol is used for any firearm designed to held and fired in the hand , used from the first single shot wheellock muzzleloaders .
Yeah, the "distinction" between pistol and revolver is a very recent fabrication of the late 20th century. To be honest, I didn't really hear it in common "tacticool" jargon until post 2000.
When the 1873 was made that distinction was non existent.
Exactly, this is a pistol, always has been. The term “pistol” has nothing to do with the function or action of the handgun.
He's so right about the plating. I bought a pair of S&W Model 15s back in the day, one in chrome plate and one in nickel. Well the nickel plating had a couple of quarter inch bubbles where the the plating didn't adhere to the base metal. That bothered me until someone robbed my house and stole it from me. Never saw it again.
^..^~~
I've ALWAYS wanted one of these. These are beautiful firearms.
I have one. It quickly became my favorite gun.
Great video and great looking revolved in an excellent caliber choices. An nice addition to any collection.
I bought the blued version with the brass trigger gaurd and back strap and front strap. Beautiful revolver !
That's a beautiful pistol you have there. A revolver is also classified as a pistol. I would love to have a Cimarron the one I held had a great lockup and cylinder roll.
I picked one up 14 hours ago, I seen it three weeks ago and after coming home from the shooting range to the gun shop, I snaped it up (Mines not nickel plated like yours though). another reason I bought the gun is because I already have three western belt holster set for a 38 special colt 45. designed gun, So I needed a gun to go along with those holsters (sad note that the belts are too short for I've gained weight).
I have been hesitant to get one of these, but the finish LOOKS AMAZING! Thanks for the review! I look forward to the range trip!
Thanks for another great single action revolver review. The non-transfer-bar variants by Pietta are my favorite "Colt clone"; EMF (Early and Modern Firearms) carries several variants; at one time they were the primary (if not sole) importer of Pietta cartridge revolvers that are now coming in from other importers including Cimarron and Taylors. The .38/.357 is the most popular chambering among cowboy action shooters because the smaller caliber is cheaper to feed and easier to shoot quickly. The smaller bore means a heavier revolver than the same gun chambered in .44 or .45 caliber and they handle .357 loads pretty well. With a light .38 Special load it's a real pussycat. A small caliber single action revolver is not just a modern invention; Wild Bill Hickok was known for carrying a brace of 1851 Navy revolvers in .36 caliber which would be similar to a .38 Special with a lightweight bullet. Although .45 Colt was the most common chambering for the Colt Single Action Army revolver, it was also offered (in the 1800s) in .38-40 (actually a .40 caliber round), .32-20 and .38 Long Colt. After the turn of the century Colt began chambering the SAA in .38 Special and .357 Magnum. You mentioned the versatility of the .357 Magnum revolver which is probably its greatest attribute. For those of us who appreciate Old West guns, the .38 Special works well as a "frontier cartridge", that is, a cartridge charged with black powder. It gives a very satisfying "boom" and cloud of smoke with manageable recoil.
well said!
A single action shooting tip. Hook your pinky finger under the grip. Kees the revolver rom rotating up in the hand. Better control and comes back on target quicker
Hell on wheels
I have the 45 Colt long Cimarron nickel-plated and shoot really well... You have to position the cylinder just right to load and unload .. It is finicky !!! I love the gun
pistol
noun [ C ]
US
/ˈpɪs.təl/
a small gun that is held in and fired from one hand
My understanding is that these are steel frame revolvers with brass backstrap and trigger. Found out the nickel revolvers have a steel back strap and trigger guard. A bonus
The cylinder pin pushes in a little further blocking the hammer from contacting any cylinders it’s so hidden lol but it’s there
What a beautiful gun! I'd love to get one in 45 colt.
One correction to what you said about the firing pin is it is not actually fixed. It is redesigned to prevent hammer stuck firing. Brandon Herrera did a video on this exact pistol demonstrating the floating firing pin. I've personally taken a primed round and tried to set it off by smashing the hammer with a rubber mallet and had no luck setting it off.
What Brandon didn't tell you is that they made that change a few years ago and after this video was made. His gun was different.
I have a sa 1873 Pietta 3 1/2 Posse very nice , smooth revolver . Didn’t care for the wood grips so I fitted some Colt replica grips, black horse and eagle , whichI prefer on my blued Colts. The Wood imho, look lousy on a nickel sa revolver. Pietta and NC Ordnance make nice replica poly ivory and other grips. If Pietta was smart, they would offer a 3rd Gen revolver witha Colt 3rd Gen grip frame and US spec threads and screws as well as a stock pin in the grip frame. Would make customizing a lot easier
I recently bought on of these, and it is very well made, and for some reason, is less expensive than other Colt clones in the Cimarron line. Maybe it has something to do with the blued version having a brass back strap and trigger guard...brass being cheaper? But the nickel plated version is all steel. Additionally, it seems to come with a tuned action. My hammer pull is light and the action ultra smooth. You would normally have to pay extra for that. I had to file the front sight down on mine to correct for it shooting low, but that's common. A good gun at a bargain.
I'll be buying mine in three days! Oh boy
I have to disagree with you a bit, what you are holding in your Hand in this video is absolutely, a Pistol. History refers to the SAA Gun as a Pistol. What you said is correct in the general sense, but, a Single Action Revolver is historically known as a Pistol! Cool video!
Beautiful......I had the same caliber in Ruger Vaquero........loved how it looked, but I am 63yo and my eyes are not that good.........couldnt hit anything........I really tried but just couldn't get it. Hope you do great with it
Really? I am turning 64 and my aim has never been better....
@@stephengagliano3831 you have been blessed with great eyes....I am getting ready to be 66yo and my eyesight has steadily decreased......have a great Memorial Day Weekend
try putting some neon green fingernail polish on the front sight
So basically, they're fun to shoot. Other than that we learned very little.
What more are you looking for?
I have a Taylor and company. 357 Devil Anse 1873 and it only has 3 hammer clicks, however the cylinder pin is all the way in for authenticity unlike this one. Idk, I'd rather have the authentic 4 colt clicks and sacrifice pin size. Why they can't 1:1 replicate that I don't know.
I also noticed how not smooth the ejector rod is by getting caught on the walls of the chamber.
Mine also has that safety firing pin that moves back and forth until the trigger is pressed making it stiff. That's how they get away with making the cylinder pin go all the way in like the colts did, because they don't need the extra notch for the pin safety.
Revolvers were called pistols 150 years ago...long before semi autos. Read some history.
Why be rude about it?
@@TrueHDCinema he wasn't.
IIRC They were originally “ Revolving Pistols “. Later abbreviated. Colts were boudoir pistols which caused that company to fail. Belt model Patterson five shots were the exception, and lead to the Walker six shooter, for U.S. mounted rifles, after the Seminole wars died down. The traveling “Sam Colt’s Private firearms collection” is worth the admission price, and shows boudoir toys transitioning to Capt. Walker’s personal Colt Walker which was returned to Sam Colt after Walker’s death at Veracruz, Mexico. For me, this “revolver” is the Holy Grail of western Americana. But try to visit this exposition and decide this question for yourselves.
TrueHDCinema i agree.
In Spanish, pistola.....they were pistolero's before the auto came out.....so it is a pistol.....just saying....check the term pistol in Webster's.....you will stand corrected.....😜
Correct. I believe it became the practice long about the early to mid 19th century to coin the term "revolver" to distinguish the then new repeating -revolving cylinder handgun from the earlier single shot black-powder flintlock and caplock pistols(and that's what those were certainly called, pistols) from the previous gun development period.
@@steelgila A *"Pistol"* is a handgun not a Rifle, it can be a revolver or single shot breach-break, single shot bolt action or semi/full auto.
Just like an *"Album"* is a musical offering from a musician or band, an *album* can be on CD, Cassette, LP or digital drive, thumb, etc.
You can get the Beatles White *Album* on LP, CD, Streaming, etc.
@@RU2AIM I think we are in perfect agreement here. Who said a pistol is a rifle? Not me.
Does it come in a 44 magnum
What do like better the cimmeron or the ruger vaquero 357??
Haha pistol is literally in the name, of this pistol. Love it 😂 very handsome pistol
It's a beautiful colt clone
So how did the grip stay on or come off remove excetera
Word pistol goes back to 1870s. Today pistol is a SA.
Do these have the 4 click colt hammer or the ker klunk of ruger ! 😢
It is, technically, a revolving pistol.
Just purchase one and I am looking for a video on how to totally disassemble and reassemble. I have field stripped it for cleaning, but a little hesitant on going further.
Do you still have it if so how does it shoot I want to get it but I want to know how well it holds up
Whats the size of the barrel?
I jest got one didn’t shoot it yet but when I was wiping it down I noticed I could wiggle the firing pin on the hammer is that normal?
Yes. On a clone of a fixed firing pin Colt SAA such as this, there will be a little bit of wiggle. It is normal and part of the design.
Oh I want one bad
Alright, I am against plating in this day and age. A fully polished stainless steel will give you the look pretty much, without giving you the bad side as the plating wears off.
I'm not saying I wouldn't consider it. But I think at the prices these guns go for, I wouldn't be likely to buy plated. 🤔
This revolver does have a safety
What kind of safety?
@@brottarnacke
it's a secret
Cock hammer to first click push disassembly pin twords back of handle.. it will keep your firing pin from resting on anything chambered if you decided to carry 6 rounds.
Funny watching some of these reviewers shooting these in 22 and using 2 hands !!! LOL
A lot of the younger crowd aren't familiar with how SAAs are shot
im looking to purchase this for self-defense...would you recommend for this purpose?
Although better than nothing I would not recommend a Singl Action revolver for self defense
Whats the size of the barrel
Hello Friend. Do you see much difference in this weapon quality for an Uberti El Patron or a Tylor? Which would be better in terms of quality, machining, and fitting of parts. Thank you, I await the reply.
I think the Taylor's are the nicest, but it's been years
Taylor's are also made by Pietta but they slick them up.
Samuel Colt referred to his creation as a "Revolving Pistol." But maybe he wasn't as smart as you are.
Hi, I just want to know is your Cimarron Pistolera All Steel ? Thanks Dante
great video, I bought one
how do you like it? I wanna get one
@@Rampant_Colt I love it, smooth action, well made
Can you get it in blueing
What's the difference between all the uberti and cimmaron, etc single action revolvers they all look the same to me is it just finish and options when ordering? I want to get one but don't know which one. Every time I see a review they go over the same features. Not their fault but the guns to me seem to be made the same except finish, grips, and sometimes the safety feature of the hammer depending on whatever gun you choose am I correct? Are these the only differences?
Edit: I guess I forgot caliber sizes which I feel is irrevelant. Caliber sizes are easy to distinguish so...
Cimmaron and Taylor's &co are importers of uberti and pieta Italian clones, the majority of of them are uberti ,as far as purchasing an uberti from uberti you get what they mass manufacture which is not bad but Taylor's has transfer bars which makes it safe"er" to carry 6 where as cimmaron has the classic hammer ,if you have a transfer bars you will not have the 4 c.o.l.t clicks when cocking which is a deal breaker for some people ,Taylor's and cimmaron order with custom features such as grips and hammer,ect, many cimmaron are worked over buy a gun Smith for better trigger ,pietta on the other hand is where heritage big bore orders the components for their models and are usually a bit cheaper and years ago had a reputation of not being near as reliable as uberti however I hear they are about the same today,can't confirm that though ,to import in the us a safety MUST be present so Taylor's and uberti themselves import with transfer bars and cimmaron managed to find a loophole buy making a longer base pin with a notch that can be pushed back to block the hammer allowing them to legally import near identical clones that are highly desirable to collectors and cowboy action shooters with the modelP being the most desirable and the also have a worked over competition model of the model p called the evil roy that is very well respected....I gues basically uberti,Taylor's,and cimmaron are Almost all ubertis with the exception of pistolero being pieta and frontiers also pieta ,the rest is cosmetic options from importers to suit your liking, I personally like a couple Taylor's catttlemans on the ranch and love the model p for fun,I have not yet had anything pieta or pieta parts
My Taylor and Company .357 Devil Anse doesn't have the 2 notch rod, but instead a firing pin that is loose until the trigger is depressed making it stiff, so I get the proper cylinder rod length, no transfer bar, but for some reason still only 3 clicks.
How many hammer clicks? Shouldn't that be part of a review?
It wouldn't have mattered. Back when I did these most were four-click, but that all went away a few years ago when most manufacturers moved to transfer-bar safeties. Same make and model, but in fact a different gun.
Correction: revolvers are pistols. handguns are pistols . that is all
I want this gun. Nobody has it in my area. How much is it
It's not for sale
I meant how much do they sell for. I don't want yours
Ah, I don't know, I'm sure prices have changed in the time since I made this video.
Does the Pietta have four clicks when you pull back the hammer?
+Teddy Molnar yes
Your understanding of the definition of pistol is lacking. Hopefully with all these types of comments you won't say it in future videos.
These comments are what you get when your an "expert"
2:23 are those lines scratches on the frame? Some kind of wear?
probably oil
The table says ammunition for canon with solid projectiles I wonder what state u live in I might need to move 😂🤣 I wanna canon to shoot
Been looking for this can’t find it in stainless.
Budsgunshop
@@jamesschiller7247 I just put one on layaway at Bud's.
did ya ever find one? I want one in stainless too
Should’ve shot it with the review
Our videos are separated between tabletop and shooting impressions as noted by the title.
Thanks for posting - trying to decide between this and the Uberti's - any thoughts?
I have a pietta 45 LC. Smooth and no more than I know was able to slick it up my self. Do watch the screws havent lost any but did have to tighten them. This pistol is so fun to shoot. Saving up for another in 357
all the semantics. its a thing with a barrel that goes "pew! pew!"
its a 6 shot, you made it a 5...!
Ok, I gotta say it. Revolvers were called pistols be for semiautos were ever made. The revolver vs semiautos pistol naming is just stupid. A pistol is a one hand sort barrel gun period. A revolver is just one type of pistol, as the semi auto is another.
This my opinion and I just don't give a shit who might think differently. It's the truth. 🤣😝
Yep. The 1851 Navy was advertised as a .36 cal. revolving belt pistol.
I love my gun, but did not know you could not use it in Competition if you are going to fan it, my floating pin moves all over the place and want strike the primers, contacted them after 30 days you are on your own, I ask for a replacment hammer with a pin that was not loose and wobbly. They told me I had to buy it. Dont buy this gun unless it is just for plinking that's all it is good for.
Christ who cares if its unloaded or not,get on with it!"