The Shock Start

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @MickCoup
    @MickCoup  6 років тому +172

    I don't engage too much in the comments section of UA-cam clips - mine or otherwise - since I find it to be a lousy medium...and I've got a whole forum, and a Facebook group, solely designed for Q&A stuff...
    This said...let's clear something up...
    Anybody ever heard of something called 'banter' at all?
    This clip has already had a couple of comments that have drawn attention to something 'harsh' I jokingly say to the person aiding me in the demo of the shock start...
    FFS. Triggered much?
    A few points...
    I'm not a yoga teacher...the people in the clip are all adults...and veterans of real hands-on incidents...we're in that room training for four days solid...sweating, fighting all out, swearing, laughing and joking inbetween...then having drinks afterwards.
    If all anyone is taking from this clip...is me acting 'hard' or 'bullying' someone...well...
    Once again...FFS.

    • @jasonfitzpatrick2197
      @jasonfitzpatrick2197 6 років тому +2

      Eh, they're there to learn how to handle conflict and aggression, a little adrenaline dump for the guy probably helped him out. Also, you might have been winding him up a bit, but you're factually correct: you could cook and eat that guy in nothing flat.

    • @tyrrollins
      @tyrrollins 6 років тому +7

      You're a great instructor. Keep doing you.

    • @sheild34
      @sheild34 6 років тому

      Mick Coup not on face book pal , what's the link to the forum providing it's not on Facebook . enjoying the videos by the way

    • @jamesgurr4401
      @jamesgurr4401 6 років тому +3

      Mick Coup I wish I was trained more for realism in my first Kung fu school. You won't always be ready for the threat/instigation of violence-so what this video traces is massively valid. But you know that already, Mick;) keep em coming!

    • @jamesgurr4401
      @jamesgurr4401 6 років тому

      Mick Coup for 'traces' read 'teaches'

  • @bigkendallas
    @bigkendallas 6 років тому +12

    I've never seen a drill like this ! To go from being shocked to being able to react quickly is how we all should be training for real self defense

  • @TheScamr
    @TheScamr 6 років тому +6

    "It so simple it took me 20 years to come up with it"
    Aint that the fuckng truth about everythin.

  • @goobertowne9804
    @goobertowne9804 6 років тому +8

    I also have been playing around with this exact drill! I also talk to the person to simulate the predator that tries to verbally disarm you before attacking. It really helped to put a lot of "I would do this" debate to end!

  • @matthewparkes-inspiredkara5283

    I enjoyed training with you about 20 years ago in Coventry at Tony Pillages dojo 👍

  • @vanoscrap6296
    @vanoscrap6296 6 років тому +45

    that pause, BOTH times, was quite the thing to see. Interesting. Thanks.

  • @Davivd2
    @Davivd2 6 років тому +4

    I'm glad I saw this. The philosophy behind what's going on here applies to every fight I've ever been in. They have all started instantly and I was reacting to the situation, rather poorly too. I've been down on my back in full mount position from sucker punches and slipping on the dirt trying to get my balance. I had to subscribe after seeing this. I'll watch more videos and hopefully learn something that will help me react to how fights really play out.

    • @smartfart9003
      @smartfart9003 5 років тому +1

      Another option...to sucker punch u yet again with another surprise...stay out of fights to begin with. It's the easiest option of all. Completely eliminates the possibility of severe injury or death. People go entire lifetimes doing this.

  • @MotoMarios
    @MotoMarios 6 років тому +16

    My god. The first time I see some real, actually useful, street-worth defense training. I wish I could have such training myself.

    • @psychologicalsigma9917
      @psychologicalsigma9917 4 роки тому +1

      This guy's the truth! Channel funker tactical is also great. Practical.

    • @mikewillis9062
      @mikewillis9062 4 роки тому

      @@psychologicalsigma9917 acutely this is the same concept as Krav maga etc. Etc. But if someone punched the shit out of you ,their is no recovery.

    • @glennrobinson7193
      @glennrobinson7193 3 роки тому

      Moto Marios ▪ Totally UNrealistic using punching mitts. I'm NOT going to be hitting a mitt in a street fight. How you train is what pops out of you when the proverbial crap hits the fan.

    • @TPSTraining
      @TPSTraining 2 роки тому

      @@glennrobinson7193 People shoot papertargets - so the method must be: "From unrealistic to realistic". How do YOU train for punching?
      (No disrespect intended in anyway)

    • @glennrobinson7193
      @glennrobinson7193 2 роки тому

      @@TPSTraining I'll be punching a soft target on a soft body - the solar plexus - NOT a hard target like around head area with possibility I come out worse (break a bone in my hand if e.g. if I hit his teeth). Therefore I train solo on an old bed mattress propped up vertically on the wall.

  • @leos1119
    @leos1119 6 років тому +2

    This is spot on its no good knowing how to throw a punch unless you can get through the fear barrier that a real fight can bring, fear can disarm your weaponry, this is a very good drill to tame fear and apprehension and increase reaction time.

  • @BelloBudo007
    @BelloBudo007 6 років тому +17

    You have to love this. There's 20 years of thinking about it and devising a drill that illuminates just how ill prepared most of us are [me included], and it's right here on UA-cam. Yet I still wonder how many of us will fail to look, listen, learn and adopt it?
    Me? Next class boys, next class. IMHO the real 'tradition' of martial arts is that they are constantly changing and always looking to give us that edge that just might see us get home safe and sound.

  • @nesra8786
    @nesra8786 6 років тому +3

    keeping the students safe by teaching them how can it be done by themselves is correct, glad to see it thought in such a weenie era when psychology does not even compute

  • @robertw2953
    @robertw2953 6 років тому

    I am using this drilling format with great success, not only with others, but with myself. It definitely makes things more real. Thanks.

  • @rigohook1160
    @rigohook1160 4 роки тому +1

    This is one of the most useful drills i can think of... Thanks for this, Mick...

  • @0pda
    @0pda 6 років тому +1

    such an open and honest instructor. getting into martial arts or just any combative sport to get fit and to feel secure (i live in a dangerous area ans want to basically fuck someone up if push comes to shove). loved your interview too. keep the videos going

  • @Abqcounselor
    @Abqcounselor 4 роки тому

    Great video. To see that pause... wow.... this is probably why the first striker often wins the fight. The defender is in shock trying to consciously register what’s going on “even though” he knows he’s in a fight. Fascinating!

  • @donworland
    @donworland 6 років тому +1

    Genius....so simple, just genius. Thank you for posting this.

  • @mehtaabsandhu6969
    @mehtaabsandhu6969 6 років тому +2

    Great idea mick !! That's reality or rather the actual clash with reality

  • @JonathenNewcomb
    @JonathenNewcomb 6 років тому +4

    Nice this is great training. Much like the fear management of SPEAR. I like it.

  • @dopeymark
    @dopeymark 6 років тому +2

    I just found this channel. I find it extremely interesting.

  • @fillsack
    @fillsack 6 років тому +7

    This is a beautiful drill.

  • @emburgess7186
    @emburgess7186 6 років тому +4

    I like the reasoning behind this drill.

  • @kcwliew
    @kcwliew 6 років тому +8

    Interesting - I liked the psychology behind this.

  • @johnnybobgoldstien8282
    @johnnybobgoldstien8282 6 років тому +7

    One of my students ask me what to do if someone snuck up on you and tried to hit you with a club in the back of the head I said that's a very tuff situation, but started to give her my best case scenario she stops me and says what if its a long 2x4 and you cant reach them I said you would some how have to close the distance she stopped me again and said but what if you didn't hear them coming so I said I would get hit in the head by a 2x4. Some people just want to hear something magical, and the scary thing is she would have believed anything I said. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not just fake instructors, but the public that need to see video's like this, and see what is real and how to train correctly. Thanks for all your video's.

  • @ferna2294
    @ferna2294 6 років тому +1

    I love this concept of training.

  • @johnmcgahan1001
    @johnmcgahan1001 Рік тому

    i wish i had a Mick Coup class in my town!

  • @MikeKay1978
    @MikeKay1978 6 років тому

    I went on a selfdefense course once, explosive defense i believe it was called. we had a drill where one would relax, close their eyes, and get hit in the head, then we are going full out with open hands just hitting away, no blocking, no techniques. Just full out war.Best class ever!

  • @jackhartsough3
    @jackhartsough3 6 років тому +6

    Holy shit man this drill opened my eyes!!! This is helping me to understand next level thinking about training. New sub.

  • @irbadltald2532
    @irbadltald2532 6 років тому

    Great training exercise, thank you for sharing!

  • @scrooblethump4971
    @scrooblethump4971 6 років тому +2

    This is just awesome.

  • @scottmcman7659
    @scottmcman7659 4 роки тому

    My father always told me: Avoid fighting if you can, but if you are sure there's going to be a fight, never let your opponent get the first punch. If he shoves you, go at him. If he raises his fists, go at him. Don't wait to get knocked down. This video is sound, no nonsense advice on avoiding being shocked and getting into offensive position right away, then throwing.

  • @Mr-Tibbster
    @Mr-Tibbster 6 років тому

    I'm not a pro fighter by any means, I'd consider myself low level "practically/physically" but "martially knowledgeable" (just a case of getting my body to match what I "know", though I've done a fair bit training in the past). If it came to fighting for real, I'd be just able to handle an untrained person who attacked me, but beyond that I will fully admit I'd be most likely floored by someone more trained or experianced, but regardless this is a great video, I recognise the great value in this exercise, training the mind and it's habitual reaction to the unexpected encounter (which is most real encounters).
    When I learned an authentic tradtional Chinese MA (from a guy who was no BS) we used to do this exercise, but from different angles every time. The attacker for the shock start would quietly pick a random position up close, either to the side, low down, in front, etc and then do it and the person with the eyes closed would have to respond akin to what was shown here, but with any skill possible they had learned. It's good to see another place doing this, as the school I did that with was the only MA school I ever came across who did this exercise at the time.
    I don't study CMA anymore for personal reasons, and I'm more into HEMA stuff now, but all these universal truths of real combat for a life & death/street context situation still apply.

  • @MisterIvyMike
    @MisterIvyMike 4 роки тому

    6:00 was an eye opener! The pause after the attack... Yeah!

  • @pabmanu1
    @pabmanu1 6 років тому +1

    very intreresting and intelligent method...

  • @FlorisGerber
    @FlorisGerber 6 років тому +2

    Really nice! Thank you for sharing. Subbed.

  • @gerardred2465
    @gerardred2465 6 років тому +2

    Excellent Mick !

  • @-ShootTheGlass-
    @-ShootTheGlass- 6 років тому

    Subscribed! Thanks for sharing mate.

  • @1orael
    @1orael 6 років тому +1

    Damn, great stuff. An interview with you on martial arts brought me here and i think I'll stay^^

  • @0181spikri
    @0181spikri 6 років тому +3

    Shit is great and definitely a part that you dont wanna miss because emotions and awareness distortions are also parts in a combative situation. Gonna try this out one day!

  • @user-di5rm9ee1p
    @user-di5rm9ee1p 6 років тому +2

    Very very good! Respect.

  • @jeffn2166
    @jeffn2166 6 років тому +24

    I'm getting to be an old fart now with a background in Judo, Kenpo, Muay Thai and MMA. BUT!!....I learned more in my 2 principle occupations, corrections officer and ED nurse, than I did in all my years in the arts. Look at the security camera videos, read the FBI crime reporting stats. Violence is never what you think. It will be at a time not of your choosing, probably involve weapons and multiple attackers. You have got to recognize and respond FAST. There will be no time outs. I have seen and fought with more people altered due to drugs or mental illness in the ED than I can remember. They are unpredictable and they don't register pain. The poor slob in the local dojo will get killed. I really appreciate Mick's training. He's spot on. I would suggest to anyone living here in the U.S. to train seriously with firearms too as every asshole and his brother has one but only a few know what they're doing. Keep up the good work Mick!

    • @englishmanbo
      @englishmanbo 6 років тому +2

      Hx. ED nurse and prison officer? me too, I have never met anyone else who took that path.

    • @jeffn2166
      @jeffn2166 6 років тому +3

      Got to see people at their worst, eh? Must be a character fault on our part. Cheers!

    • @ManofOneGod
      @ManofOneGod 6 років тому

      They dont register eye gauge or a good punch to the throat???

    • @smradztoiek
      @smradztoiek 6 років тому +1

      There was a case, where a drunk (no other drugs) guy had to be shot a dozen times before he stopped his attack. Drugs can be even worse in that regard. You can also read about a guy called Yogendra Singh Yadav. He was shot by military weapons multiple times in his groin and shoulder. That didn't stop him from climbing some 60 feet to and capturing two bunkers while killing four Pakistani soldiers in the first one and a couple more in the second one. He was shot 14 times and survived. That is why some experts recommend to use mechanics based techniques instead of pain compliance. Mechanics works every time. Well.. a contortionist might screw you over on that one... :)

  • @thedevilsadvocate3710
    @thedevilsadvocate3710 6 років тому +2

    Very interesting! Subscribed!

  • @inquisitor4635
    @inquisitor4635 6 років тому +1

    There is a concept that is hardly ever discussed or approached and that is when an attacker comes at you by surprise our unexpectedly, particularly in the course of our typical civilian life normal busy and focused routine, the first natural reaction is to psychologically freeze. This happens no matter how much fighting skill you may have acquired. That length of time is usually enough for them to gain the advantage and then do you in. Very difficult, perhaps impossible, to train for and eliminate this type of psychological freezing up reaction to an unexpected attack.

    • @Leadfoot_P71
      @Leadfoot_P71 6 років тому

      No I think the flinch response is the first natural reaction. Then comes the fight, flight or freeze response.

    • @nocturne000
      @nocturne000 6 років тому +1

      he has a video where he talks about freezing and breaking it actually, though I don't remember which one it is...

  • @kovenmaitreya7184
    @kovenmaitreya7184 6 років тому

    I like this drill. Do you do it from all angles? I will incorporate this into my training, for sure.

  • @ozzsihing
    @ozzsihing 6 років тому +1

    Many see my path to victory yet none know why I am victorious.

  • @johnouellet8700
    @johnouellet8700 5 років тому

    Great video

  • @mig1017
    @mig1017 5 років тому

    Excellent drill 👌

  • @RenatoFitness
    @RenatoFitness 6 років тому +2

    Good stuff!!!

  • @czr7j9
    @czr7j9 6 років тому +1

    very interesting, never seen anything like it

  • @laitupuola3248
    @laitupuola3248 6 років тому

    Thanks for sharing sir.

  • @JD-hs7ib
    @JD-hs7ib 6 років тому +2

    I think this is a GREAT drill my only comment is that the instructor has required his student to hit with such force that the student now is winding up his punch. A quicker accurate strike would be my first choice followed by more powerful punches. If you are a striker (if not take him down). However, my belief is the instructor is just trying to show this drill of "zero-to-o'shit" and how quickly things happen. The instructor is every good.

  • @barryblu_space-bar3x
    @barryblu_space-bar3x 3 роки тому

    I love ur no bullshit style...YOU KEEP DOING UR THANG CUZ

  • @ianbrewster8934
    @ianbrewster8934 4 роки тому

    That is a great drill 😀

  • @blaznfattyz
    @blaznfattyz 6 років тому

    that is where the constant training comes in. you train yourself to react a certain way such as recover, hands up and quick to punch instead of being startled and pausing and confused. then it becomes second nature. but, there is a downside to this type of training.. it makes you jumpy af. my brother had this type training a long time ago with his jeet kune do training. He has hit and almost hit innocent people who just tapped him on his shoulder.

  • @francescol.bellman9670
    @francescol.bellman9670 6 років тому +3

    Very interesting.

    • @francescol.bellman9670
      @francescol.bellman9670 6 років тому +1

      Actually, I tried today and managed quite well most because if my martial arts training, than my knee kickboxing training. Thank you very much, your lesson was insightful for me. I will pass your lesson.

  • @dr4jm
    @dr4jm 4 роки тому

    Better tell my missus not to do that when I'm watching telly.

  • @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
    @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 6 років тому

    This drill is great, I think it can be better

  • @jujuliolezesuiglaz1780
    @jujuliolezesuiglaz1780 6 років тому

    good channel. I would only add to the anatomical field that the jonction at the top of the forehead is the weakest, kind of a soldering link between the vertical plane of your forehead and the top of your head. As such, and also to limit the bouncing of your brain too much, best to lower your center of gravity and aligning your body accordingly. I do english boxing and sometimes I would "headbutt" incoming punches that I couldn't otherwise have the time or energy to side-step too etc...same as I would dig my elbows into incoming body shots if given enough time.
    I like the idea of using this just to be at perfect striking range of your main arsenal. When considering a situation of close space with minimal travel distance for your shots to land, I was quite intringued with "shoulder" shots that you can see in MMA (jon jones for instance), when in a mouting position, you're using all of your limbs to restrain the opponent and drive consecutive shoulder blows to his eye sockets etc...but then regarding the headbutting restriction, I wonder if they would use their headbutts instead if they could, even though it's a more "sacrificial" techinique?

  • @juntjoonunya9216
    @juntjoonunya9216 6 років тому

    You need a mic of you want your channel to grow. Good stuff otherwise but I can't turn my speakers up enough

  • @WaxingRadiance
    @WaxingRadiance 6 років тому +2

    makes perfect sense

  • @michaelsaunders6923
    @michaelsaunders6923 6 років тому

    How do you cope with verbal abuse I.e. from another driver?

    • @MickCoup
      @MickCoup  6 років тому +4

      Michael Saunders Treat them like a Facebook 'block' and make ninja unicorns out of them...that you can't see or hear, and who just don't exist...

    • @michaelsaunders6923
      @michaelsaunders6923 6 років тому

      Mick Coup thank you

    • @donwanna3906
      @donwanna3906 6 років тому

      Best effin' reply possible.

    • @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
      @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 6 років тому

      You don't, listen to your heart or some people call this a gutt, heart and a gutt are always right. Not the maind,

  • @muchimi
    @muchimi 6 років тому +2

    LOVE IT

  • @sanekabc
    @sanekabc 4 роки тому

    Brilliant

  • @antejamio4517
    @antejamio4517 6 років тому

    What if a knife or a club is involved. Any ideas how to defend in those extreme situations?

    • @ghostfacemurderiza
      @ghostfacemurderiza 6 років тому

      Ante Jamio The point remains. Develop a way to surprise your student with what ever attack may come.

    • @thenoseplays2488
      @thenoseplays2488 6 років тому +1

      Run

    • @inquisitor4635
      @inquisitor4635 6 років тому

      Avoidance and evasion.

    • @Leadfoot_P71
      @Leadfoot_P71 6 років тому

      Yeah, run fu. Chances are pretty good you can take one hit and still run, but not several.

    • @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
      @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 6 років тому

      You made a bed judgement, buy being in such situation, unarmed.

  • @nattyd50
    @nattyd50 6 років тому +6

    Good shit!!

  • @antejamio4517
    @antejamio4517 6 років тому

    Standard Training1. Combat Management (Foundation Elements)
    2. Contact Management
    3. Threat Management
    4. Continuation Skills & Drills*
    5. Situational & Positional Adaptations*
    6. Scenario Training & Testing*^
    7. *Knife Management #1 (Active Threat)*^*
    8. *Knife Management #2 (Passive Threat)*^*
    9. Combative Conditioning Concepts^10. Weapon Adaptations #1 (Blunt Force)*^
    11. Weapon Adaptations #2 (Sharp Force)*^
    12. Subject Management #1 (Proven-Force)^
    13. Subject Management #2 (Potential-Force)^
    14. Power Generation #1 (Highline Options)^
    15. Power Generation #2 (Lowline Options)^
    16. Training Design & Instructional Skills
    17. Personal Safety & Security #1 (General Focus)
    18. Personal Safety & Security #2 (Female Focus)

    • @antejamio4517
      @antejamio4517 6 років тому

      Coup, any and every advice would be most welcomed. Thanks.

  • @kodaspaws
    @kodaspaws 6 років тому +4

    finally found some real training...

  • @sheild34
    @sheild34 6 років тому +1

    there won't be any bullshito with Mick ......top class

  • @seung-hyuncha1439
    @seung-hyuncha1439 6 років тому

    Very interesting...

  • @saibabax
    @saibabax 6 років тому +2

    This shit is brilliant

  • @THATMOFODIRT
    @THATMOFODIRT 6 років тому

    Good stuff

  • @strwman5
    @strwman5 6 років тому +1

    Mick Coup is like the Dr. Who of fighting

    • @MickCoup
      @MickCoup  6 років тому +1

      strwman5 I have no idea what that even means...more like Mick...who?

  • @Chris_Mann_2020
    @Chris_Mann_2020 6 років тому +2

    Interesting

  •  6 років тому +4

    Damn, you look as if you would wrestle a bear?
    And I wouldn't bet on the bear @_@

  • @markeldridge3619
    @markeldridge3619 6 років тому +8

    The Real Deal!!!

    • @wallrider73
      @wallrider73 6 років тому +2

      100%. Zero BS with this guy. The best out there.

  • @AR-op9qm
    @AR-op9qm 5 років тому

    God I fuckin' love this guy.

  • @danclapper626
    @danclapper626 6 років тому +3

    Friggin good stuff. I have been planning this type of stuff for my kids, now I know where to come. My kids are 8 and 5. I don't need any snowflakes or wimpy kids, the world's full of em already.

  • @backbison
    @backbison 6 років тому +1

    Carry on! Fuck em.

  • @markbdogs
    @markbdogs 6 років тому

    Great drill but IMO, the reactive strike shoulda been a Thai kick off his right leg to the assailant's left leg. No pause or reset required and they HURT!

    • @BeyondSideshow
      @BeyondSideshow 6 років тому

      markbdogs - Did you get the point of the drill though?

  • @haraldharam9334
    @haraldharam9334 6 років тому

    Knowledge!

  • @22minus13
    @22minus13 3 роки тому

    I have shared these drills with people already love your methods and practices, fucking Giant hooah here

  • @aptcmpasion
    @aptcmpasion 5 років тому

    note palm-strikes, avoid catastrophe of broken, useless, painfull, hand, maybe go into shock in a minute

  • @dtoad5576
    @dtoad5576 6 років тому

    'stand the foke close'. haha...

  • @GhostRider-hy9zt
    @GhostRider-hy9zt 4 роки тому

    The picture for testosterone in the dictionary is Mick Coup

  • @sluggensluggen5075
    @sluggensluggen5075 Рік тому

    Blue finger gang!