The morning you got up, bleary-eyed and freezing, having almost called yourself a taxi after your first night on my boat to this Oli.. Looking absolutely stunning mate! Bush is super impressed too! Not long until we get the armada together!
I know man, ain’t it crazy. I’m really enjoying the build. Don’t really have a timeframe in mind, I’m just tackling what’s in front of me with an idea of what’s ahead. But when I do get her in the water you will be the first person I call to try and meet up with 😀 I hear someone’s making a new marina in cherry if you were ever thinking of bringing the Templar closer to home. Say hi to bush, I’m glad you’re liking the progress 👍 thanks for watching and commenting, I think you’re one of maybe 3 people I actually know that watches these things lol
I hadn't heard about Cherry! I'll look into that!! Sounds like an absolute plan mate! When you get this one finished I'll get you to upgrade the Templar! :)
I've caught up now so... Why not mark the board from outside with your sharpie, take it down, cut the hole then put back up - would save force from using the router causing the curved formers to move as you work. Also - I'm not certain but I believe you can buy ready made wood trims for portholes - it looked like that's what I had on my boat anyway. Solar... that will be interesting. I'd suggest 4x 300w panels going into two controllers, for a start.
Yh it’s thinking about solar that holding me back now, need some solid advice and the guts to pull the trigger on another big spend. I was thinking more panels into one controller for now, simple as I’m new to it. But not sure what to get or from who, would need it delivered to the boat… any thoughts?
Hi Oli great work, love the ceiling, try wetting the strips of ply/thin MDF before bending around the window and let them dry in place. Might save you a lot of material/money, maybe a template for the port holes assuming all the same size, also try a collar on the router and a straight bit, that way you can vary the depth of cut, doing 2/3 passes and avoiding burning out the bits. Loving the videos.
Thanks very much 😀 some good points, I was thinking of using the same collar as a template but it got pulled to bits taking it and the packing out. By the time I’m on the last one I’ll have figured it out and be upset with myself that I didn’t do the earlier ones better, that’s always the way in this build, but I’m new to it and learning. after 20 years of watching wood working shows, log cabin builds, tiny house channels and of course boating videos I wanted to see if I’d actually learned anything
Hi Oli, Looking good its coming together. Its nice when you achieve progress. Those cheap router cutters always have crap bearings that fail. You might look at a company I have used for years that make cutters that are pro cutters at a good price. WEALDEN TOOL COMPANY have a cutter I use all the time for template trimming . They do standard TRIM CUTTERS cutters with fixed blades but they also do EASI TIP a bearing cutter that has replacement blades that can be swopped over when worn . Get one thats longer than needed so you can use different parts of it to cut as that plywood glue kills the blades. It will be money well spent as the cheaper cutters are a disaster waiting to happen . Hope this helps & good luck Andy
In my defence it’s not my router or bits, not what I would have bought, but it’s great for borrowing. Yh that’s great man thanks very much for the hook up 👍 Your videos are coming along, music and stuff now, solid content. Tbh I’m glad you’re ahead of me so you can show me the way 😉 very impressed with your build quality, thanks Andy, you’re a star 👍
@@olivellanarrowboat4319 Hi Oli I think we can all learn from each other if we see people doing stuff & share our knowledge. Wasn't sure about boat painting till I saw you do it & showed us the way. Keep em coming man doing a grand job. 😃👍
Hey Oli great to see you again. What a great weekend you had. A damn pity about the router bit giving up and if it was me, I'd change that board and have a gooden instead. But that's me. Personally, I would install the hearth first and then trim the boards around the the finished chimney other than the other way around, simply because it gives you a much neater finish. Same goes for the back cab and the solar electrics, because it will save you hours of making all those little pieces of trim to hide the gaps. Think about when your moored up for a few days and you want a shower. Running the engine just to get hot water is a dent in the fuel bill. A calorifier makes much more sense. Speaking of the heat exchanger from the engine cooling system, they are great for running your cabin radiators while your cruising and having a nice warm boat to come into at the end of the day when you get the fire going and the fire doesn't need so much fuel to warm the place up, because it is already warm. Great stuff mate. Cheers
Wow some really great points to think about, it’s taken me a bit of time to get them in order, as with everything lol. So Yh cheap router, cheap bits, first time, something was bound to go wrong, but it’s not so bad, could have chewed up some clothes or some skin, learning curve 👍 may not need to change the board, been looking at inset collars with an inch deep face, they’d cover any little imperfections in the holes, but they’re like £50 each so maybe 2 a month for a while on this budget. Tricky to make, but lots out there to look at. The hearth requires the walls and partition wall to be in place, so I think I’m going to have to do that bit of ceiling to anchor the wall to, don’t want a giant hole open to the elements for weeks as I fit all the wood around it. So I’m thinking, fit the ceiling, upper and lower walls, partition wall for the fireplace/shower, find the exact placement for the fire, build the hearth, measure and drill the centre through the wood/metal, then cut from outside, fit chimney, position fire/flue, set fire cement and ropes, fire away
And I’ve been looking at 2 coil calorifiers and diesel heaters in addition to the engine heat exchange to run the hot water, been thinking with one to run the radiators off, agreed running radiators off the engine is good if you’re moving every day, but are cold in the morning, would it not be better to (but more expensive) to have the radiators ran off the diesel heater, then you can set timers and have central heating, instead of having to run your boat for an hour ever morning for shower water? It’s a shame they don’t do 3 coil cos then you could tap a log burner back boiler into it also, marking the holy trinity of boat heating
@@olivellanarrowboat4319 I was only suggesting the heat exchanger from the engine cooling system as an alternative heating source for the radiators on those cool days that you are cruising because they are really cheap and east to install via a gate valve in the system. Keith shows it here at 20:17 ua-cam.com/video/vLCPxhElsEU/v-deo.html
A slot routed into top and bottom rails allowing a stub tenoned vertical rotated into position is a stronger and easier option for those additional timbers. Could use biscuits as another option.
We drove past the boats on Easter Sunday in our hire car (a bit naughty I know). We were on a quick weekend trip from Finland, where we live. It's impressive to see all the boats for real and I could hear the noise of all those power tools running. You are making huge progress now, the boat's appearance is changing very quickly inside. I wonder if it would help to position the wall boards first and then mark the exact hole with a pen (from the outside with the window removed), remove the board and finally cut with a jigsaw and use sandpaper to get a really smooth edge? That's probably not possible for some reason, I don't know. But, the main thing is that you do it the way that you find best. Keep going whilst you are on a roll! 😀
That’s awesome 👍 if you’re ever back near the boat, come give me a knock, I’d love to show you round (even though you’ve seen everything) if I’m there, I seem to be working lots atm, so I’m not at north kilworth as much as I’d like to be. And if you only heard the tools and not the dogs then you got a good day 😀As for the jigsaw, I’m horrible at that and I’m sure I’d end up with worse than I got. Thanks for the support, watching the videos and leaving a comment 👍 best regards to you and Finland 👍
Remove window find the middle from outside drill a hole in the middle then use a bar with a bolt in the middle and attach a router then spin round? Best not to fit windows then do it ?
I wouldn't put MDF anywhere near a narrow boat window. It swells and disintegrates if it sniffs moisture. Try wetting a scrap to see what I mean. Otherwise a great job
Yh I was with you 100% I’ve seen the mess that is wet mfd, like a bowl of week old shreddies. But there’s a couple of boats here, with very competent builders, that have done this very thing. As long as they’re treated and sealed they should be fine, if not then at least they’re easy to replace. Looked into flexyply but it doesn’t have the strength, maybe birch ply later on if this doesn’t work out. Good point you made, thanks for voicing it, also thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Looking great. I've found the quality of T and G varies from different stores. Where did you get yours from..? Did you have to use the track upside down to fit your saw..? 🤔
After looking for ages and weighing it up I ended up using wickes for all my wood (floor joists, battens, sheets, everything I’m just now realising). they had the best stock, prices, availability and free delivery on bigger stuff I couldn’t fit in the car. And for the most part it’s been more than adequate, if not better than expected. As for the track, it’s advertised as fitting most saws, but mine is well short of the fence, I just rode along the tear out strip, about 1mm off, the strips on the track helped keep it straight. Maybe I got lucky, maybe I’m the orange rubber/plastic strip is that helpful. Next time itching I’ll run the edge of the saw along the back of the track, should be quicker and more user friendly, but probably with a rougher cut. I guess that’s the choice you make
@Oli Vella Narrowboat best item I bought when building my van. The orange grip is so good you don't need to clamp the track to the wood. Looking brilliant so far 👍
I’ve not watched their channel in a while (you get kinda burnt out watching boat channels when working on a boat, well after a while you do anyway, everyone I talk to says the same) but I have been impressed with their work. In fact they stole my whole colour scheme and build idea (cladding the ceiling, boarding the uppers and cladding the lowers) before I even had a boat (I hadn’t seen them yet) love their colours, thermowood and cream, retro classy. But Yh thanks very much, I will check it out
Yh I like that look too, i had intended, right at the start, to have dark (like thermowood) 30degree slant lower walls, then I saw the price of thermowood and quickly changed my mind. Then I looked at wood stain, hated it, didn’t have time to find the exact shade I wanted and lost interest, that and it just seemed a little fiddly, lots of cutting, sanding, treating, buying a compressor & nail gun. All in all it just seemed easier, cheaper and quicker to put the panels up. I might do some decorative panels with the off cuts and salvageable bits of the broken ones. Good call, thanks for watching and commenting 👍
The morning you got up, bleary-eyed and freezing, having almost called yourself a taxi after your first night on my boat to this Oli.. Looking absolutely stunning mate! Bush is super impressed too! Not long until we get the armada together!
I know man, ain’t it crazy. I’m really enjoying the build. Don’t really have a timeframe in mind, I’m just tackling what’s in front of me with an idea of what’s ahead. But when I do get her in the water you will be the first person I call to try and meet up with 😀 I hear someone’s making a new marina in cherry if you were ever thinking of bringing the Templar closer to home. Say hi to bush, I’m glad you’re liking the progress 👍 thanks for watching and commenting, I think you’re one of maybe 3 people I actually know that watches these things lol
I hadn't heard about Cherry! I'll look into that!! Sounds like an absolute plan mate! When you get this one finished I'll get you to upgrade the Templar! :)
I've caught up now so... Why not mark the board from outside with your sharpie, take it down, cut the hole then put back up - would save force from using the router causing the curved formers to move as you work. Also - I'm not certain but I believe you can buy ready made wood trims for portholes - it looked like that's what I had on my boat anyway.
Solar... that will be interesting. I'd suggest 4x 300w panels going into two controllers, for a start.
Yh it’s thinking about solar that holding me back now, need some solid advice and the guts to pull the trigger on another big spend. I was thinking more panels into one controller for now, simple as I’m new to it. But not sure what to get or from who, would need it delivered to the boat… any thoughts?
Great progress , looking good
Coming along nicely ,Oli 👍👍👍👍
Thanks very much 👍 leaps and bounds 😉
Hi Oli great work, love the ceiling, try wetting the strips of ply/thin MDF before bending around the window and let them dry in place. Might save you a lot of material/money, maybe a template for the port holes assuming all the same size, also try a collar on the router and a straight bit, that way you can vary the depth of cut, doing 2/3 passes and avoiding burning out the bits.
Loving the videos.
Thanks very much 😀 some good points, I was thinking of using the same collar as a template but it got pulled to bits taking it and the packing out. By the time I’m on the last one I’ll have figured it out and be upset with myself that I didn’t do the earlier ones better, that’s always the way in this build, but I’m new to it and learning. after 20 years of watching wood working shows, log cabin builds, tiny house channels and of course boating videos I wanted to see if I’d actually learned anything
A brass or copper ring would look nice around the window or teak 😊
Looking good will be a lovely looking boat
Thanks very much, I hope so 👍
Hi Oli, Looking good its coming together. Its nice when you achieve progress. Those cheap router cutters always have crap bearings that fail. You might look at a company I have used for years that make cutters that are pro cutters at a good price. WEALDEN TOOL COMPANY have a cutter I use all the time for template trimming . They do standard TRIM CUTTERS cutters with fixed blades but they also do EASI TIP a bearing cutter that has replacement blades that can be swopped over when worn . Get one thats longer than needed so you can use different parts of it to cut as that plywood glue kills the blades. It will be money well spent as the cheaper cutters are a disaster waiting to happen . Hope this helps & good luck Andy
In my defence it’s not my router or bits, not what I would have bought, but it’s great for borrowing. Yh that’s great man thanks very much for the hook up 👍
Your videos are coming along, music and stuff now, solid content. Tbh I’m glad you’re ahead of me so you can show me the way 😉 very impressed with your build quality, thanks Andy, you’re a star 👍
@@olivellanarrowboat4319 Hi Oli I think we can all learn from each other if we see people doing stuff & share our knowledge. Wasn't sure about boat painting till I saw you do it & showed us the way. Keep em coming man doing a grand job. 😃👍
Looks like great progress Oli!
Thanks very much 👍
Starting to look great all the prep time is paying off keep up the great work👍
I think so too 👍 thanks very much for watching and commenting 😉
Hey Oli great to see you again. What a great weekend you had. A damn pity about the router bit giving up and if it was me, I'd change that board and have a gooden instead. But that's me.
Personally, I would install the hearth first and then trim the boards around the the finished chimney other than the other way around, simply because it gives you a much neater finish. Same goes for the back cab and the solar electrics, because it will save you hours of making all those little pieces of trim to hide the gaps.
Think about when your moored up for a few days and you want a shower. Running the engine just to get hot water is a dent in the fuel bill. A calorifier makes much more sense. Speaking of the heat exchanger from the engine cooling system, they are great for running your cabin radiators while your cruising and having a nice warm boat to come into at the end of the day when you get the fire going and the fire doesn't need so much fuel to warm the place up, because it is already warm. Great stuff mate. Cheers
Wow some really great points to think about, it’s taken me a bit of time to get them in order, as with everything lol. So Yh cheap router, cheap bits, first time, something was bound to go wrong, but it’s not so bad, could have chewed up some clothes or some skin, learning curve 👍 may not need to change the board, been looking at inset collars with an inch deep face, they’d cover any little imperfections in the holes, but they’re like £50 each so maybe 2 a month for a while on this budget. Tricky to make, but lots out there to look at.
The hearth requires the walls and partition wall to be in place, so I think I’m going to have to do that bit of ceiling to anchor the wall to, don’t want a giant hole open to the elements for weeks as I fit all the wood around it. So I’m thinking, fit the ceiling, upper and lower walls, partition wall for the fireplace/shower, find the exact placement for the fire, build the hearth, measure and drill the centre through the wood/metal, then cut from outside, fit chimney, position fire/flue, set fire cement and ropes, fire away
And I’ve been looking at 2 coil calorifiers and diesel heaters in addition to the engine heat exchange to run the hot water, been thinking with one to run the radiators off, agreed running radiators off the engine is good if you’re moving every day, but are cold in the morning, would it not be better to (but more expensive) to have the radiators ran off the diesel heater, then you can set timers and have central heating, instead of having to run your boat for an hour ever morning for shower water? It’s a shame they don’t do 3 coil cos then you could tap a log burner back boiler into it also, marking the holy trinity of boat heating
@@olivellanarrowboat4319 I was only suggesting the heat exchanger from the engine cooling system as an alternative heating source for the radiators on those cool days that you are cruising because they are really cheap and east to install via a gate valve in the system. Keith shows it here at 20:17 ua-cam.com/video/vLCPxhElsEU/v-deo.html
I’m not arguing with you, that seems like a really good idea, I’ll look into it, thanks very much 👍
A slot routed into top and bottom rails allowing a stub tenoned vertical rotated into position is a stronger and easier option for those additional timbers. Could use biscuits as another option.
Very good points, I’m not there in skill yet though, but I’ll look into them for the upcoming cabinetry 👍 thanks very much for watching and commenting
We drove past the boats on Easter Sunday in our hire car (a bit naughty I know). We were on a quick weekend trip from Finland, where we live. It's impressive to see all the boats for real and I could hear the noise of all those power tools running. You are making huge progress now, the boat's appearance is changing very quickly inside. I wonder if it would help to position the wall boards first and then mark the exact hole with a pen (from the outside with the window removed), remove the board and finally cut with a jigsaw and use sandpaper to get a really smooth edge? That's probably not possible for some reason, I don't know. But, the main thing is that you do it the way that you find best. Keep going whilst you are on a roll! 😀
That’s awesome 👍 if you’re ever back near the boat, come give me a knock, I’d love to show you round (even though you’ve seen everything) if I’m there, I seem to be working lots atm, so I’m not at north kilworth as much as I’d like to be. And if you only heard the tools and not the dogs then you got a good day 😀As for the jigsaw, I’m horrible at that and I’m sure I’d end up with worse than I got. Thanks for the support, watching the videos and leaving a comment 👍 best regards to you and Finland 👍
Excellent - thank you for a great video.
Awesome, thank you for an excellent comment 👍
Great Stuff Mate
Thanks man 👍
Some great progress. Move the board to the left about 3 ft and cut out the duck hatch.
Genius!!!👍
Try using a jig or trammel with your router and take less material out with each pass.
Remove window find the middle from outside drill a hole in the middle then use a bar with a bolt in the middle and attach a router then spin round? Best not to fit windows then do it ?
I wouldn't put MDF anywhere near a narrow boat window. It swells and disintegrates if it sniffs moisture. Try wetting a scrap to see what I mean. Otherwise a great job
Yh I was with you 100% I’ve seen the mess that is wet mfd, like a bowl of week old shreddies. But there’s a couple of boats here, with very competent builders, that have done this very thing. As long as they’re treated and sealed they should be fine, if not then at least they’re easy to replace. Looked into flexyply but it doesn’t have the strength, maybe birch ply later on if this doesn’t work out. Good point you made, thanks for voicing it, also thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Looking great. I've found the quality of T and G varies from different stores. Where did you get yours from..? Did you have to use the track upside down to fit your saw..? 🤔
After looking for ages and weighing it up I ended up using wickes for all my wood (floor joists, battens, sheets, everything I’m just now realising). they had the best stock, prices, availability and free delivery on bigger stuff I couldn’t fit in the car. And for the most part it’s been more than adequate, if not better than expected. As for the track, it’s advertised as fitting most saws, but mine is well short of the fence, I just rode along the tear out strip, about 1mm off, the strips on the track helped keep it straight. Maybe I got lucky, maybe I’m the orange rubber/plastic strip is that helpful. Next time itching I’ll run the edge of the saw along the back of the track, should be quicker and more user friendly, but probably with a rougher cut. I guess that’s the choice you make
@Oli Vella Narrowboat best item I bought when building my van. The orange grip is so good you don't need to clamp the track to the wood. Looking brilliant so far 👍
Take a look at narrowboat moonshine episode #41 time line 12 minute 30 seconds where he's fitting premade porthole insets
I’ve not watched their channel in a while (you get kinda burnt out watching boat channels when working on a boat, well after a while you do anyway, everyone I talk to says the same) but I have been impressed with their work. In fact they stole my whole colour scheme and build idea (cladding the ceiling, boarding the uppers and cladding the lowers) before I even had a boat (I hadn’t seen them yet) love their colours, thermowood and cream, retro classy. But Yh thanks very much, I will check it out
I would like to see a bead and but Joint tung and grove? You could have done it with
the router…..
This is my first time using the router lol, I’m not quite there yet, but maybe a few panels when it gets time to finish the boat, good call thanks 👍
Tongue n groove is stronger and aesthetically better staggered , just my opinion tho
Yh I like that look too, i had intended, right at the start, to have dark (like thermowood) 30degree slant lower walls, then I saw the price of thermowood and quickly changed my mind. Then I looked at wood stain, hated it, didn’t have time to find the exact shade I wanted and lost interest, that and it just seemed a little fiddly, lots of cutting, sanding, treating, buying a compressor & nail gun. All in all it just seemed easier, cheaper and quicker to put the panels up. I might do some decorative panels with the off cuts and salvageable bits of the broken ones. Good call, thanks for watching and commenting 👍
👍👌❤️🇨🇦
Nice to see you 👍
Sad to see spray foam.
Why’s that? Cold spots? Doesn’t work? Thanks for the comment and discourse 👍