So two months later, how is this working out? Seems like this project is not going anywhere... Kickstarter failed to meet goal, and no new news I can find anywhere. Since you seem to know the developer, maybe you can make a video on this with updates on the status of this project.
Hey, This may be an asset in the future but currently it is just a fancy control of lights. This is usually not what a home assistant user expects because there the integrations are quasi unlimited. I will replace my current NSPanel controls with that manager only when the capabilities of the HA blueprint and NSpanel UI are clearly surpassed in functionality. Right now, I don't see the advantage and a touch display that mostly sleeps (black) is a useless black box on the wall for housemates and visitors. They prefer mechanical switches that always work and don't need a manual. Regards
Totally agree. I was quite disappointed. As for now this is just a fancy light switch. I use home assistant at my home and I dont control any lights so this is of no use for me. I use HA for energy monitoring, controlling heating, car charging, and controlling the water heater. The positive thing is that is was easier to install than installing the HA blueprint.
I don't understand this. No use of the hard buttons? Interface looks old and outdated. No use of the internal termostat? In Home Assistant with the Blueprint you can easy upload the tft also. I look forward to what they will come up with tho. Nice of only two people to fix this! Keep up the good work!
I have done some fun stuff with my NSPanel, including fan/light controls, RGB bulb controls, coffee maker triggers, etc. Wish I had this a year ago, would have saved me many hours of programming/testing.
I bought my first NSPanel about a year ago. And then some more. Until now I didn't install any of them because my total renovation is still ongoing. I thought a couple of times that "now" it's time to learn the details. Good luck I never learned what I won't need anymore. I guess in a month or two I will really have to do it. Thanks to you and everybody else in the community!
Why is this a Kickstarter???? Why not open source this and have the commmunity jump in and help build it!!! Sucks this will never see the light of day, but It would be nice if some people could get together and start setting up the bones of this and have open source community to help... I am not a software engineer, so no idea how to start that process. I write scripts and some small, non complicated programs, but no where near being able to start this, lol.
Would the thermostat also work? Just asking because i plan to replace my old stupid ones by this and it would be good to be able to control the heating in my home by this like it is mentioned in the standard specs
Hi Mark, good video: however I have a question. If i look at this nspmanager project i find the graphics and functionalities a lot (but realy a lot) less apealing than the things i have seen of your esphome + template projects. The only thing i'm worried about is that I only want to flash the 4 NSPanels 1 time. How do i make the right decision here.
Heya :) It's down to personal preference really. Both options once setup and flashed should allow you to perform OTA updates without you having to take them apart and reflash them. It's been a while since I visited these but they have both matured as projects. Im looking at creating some new content on them in the not to distant future when I return.
This is the most amazing panel work done so far, I love what Erik and Tim are doing, I wish they will clone this for NS PANel PRO, days ago Erik told me it is not in the scope for now, I’m building my zigbee net. Here the WiFi is not great
maybe it is too early but .... 1. UI is really bad. Sonoff did a better job with their UI. you can't go back 2. All they show is light control. There is nothing "Home-Assistant"-y that makes you say "yes. finally. these guys get it." if you ask me.... NSPanel 2 should be based on the new TX Ultimate switch with features from the NSPanel. it should have bluetooth proxy WHICH IS EASY to include... and a light sensor. forget about the NSPanel and the NSPanel Pro. they were beta devices and Sonoff doesn't play well with others. they are trying to create their own "eco-system" in which they are failing terribly because no one cares.
Is there Portrait Version or this is made for 86x86 european landscape panels? All projects already have their portrait mode versions. You cant start without this, because you lost adherence from portrait owners. you can feel this perspective in other projects. When one project developed the portrait version, those who did not offered until than, lost adopters. now every project have it!!! Just a "simple as that" tip for you.
I just started with HA a couple of weeks ago. Been doing homeseer for 30 years but now really happy with HA. I watched your previous videos on flashing the NS panel and then using the HA blueprint. I finally made that work after a little bit of effort to get the initial flash done. I now have an addition to the NS panel. I got NS panel Pro. I have two questions. 1. should I forget the NS panel pro and get the older panels instead? 2. Should I use this new manager that you spoke about in this video or should I stick with using the blueprint?
I would update inline with new releases as much as possible or else you would find updating HA could turn into a game of chance whthere or not the NSpanel would still be working@@charliemortonmusic
With ll respect, just as a Sonoff user, ith no add on's or flashed devices i just ant to know if i can use NS Panel manager? I hear a lot of tech wich i am not interested in???
Love if they can add a tab for smart trvs, so in the set room it is in it can adjust it from the panel. I get thermostat controls but in many houses it doesnt make sense having them on all panels
I am watching the live stream but wanna mention a point I am missing cause I was thinking to use this as a switch and also nice display for HA function / switches cause I would like to show some data like W and kWh used today from a SonOff Switch called PowR Elite which also measures W, A, V and consumption. I want to use that next to the Wallbox to turn on the SonOff PowR Elite Switch which than turn the wallbox on. And if that charging will start I should see the W going up and also showing the kWh used today at least. But that would require to retrieve SonOff data to display or update them there which could / should be possible with the mqtt manager for sure at least somehow . If that would be impossible I would not wanna buy one of these cause I had thought about them as Manager beyond the pure administration of lights alone. I simply do not use SonOff for lighting tasks cause I have already XIaomi bulbs and strips and what not for years. Would be nice if that will be possible in the future for example new year or so cause I am not in a hurry, but I need a simple display at the wallbox cause currently I have no display for such data. I also might wanna use that to run different charging profiles like only surplus charging (which means solar power surplus available or SOC of home battery > 66%) or for example max. Charging which then would go up to 11 kW instead of 1,3 kW at lowest charging profile.
Great work, but my home automation is fhem. I found no project to use fhem with the nspanel without many work. It is possible to use the nspanelmanager with fhem?
If you are doing just one panel I think esphome would be better as you can more freely tinker with it. If you are doing several and just want easy deployment and control then this is the way 👍🏻
I've been a way for a while and not spoken with the developer for this project in that time. I imagine though that was a value he chose to make the time he has spent on the project worthwhile.
I use a framing hammer to punch holes in the drywall a wire fish and a drill to pull Romex. The best trick is to use 20 minute drywall mud to fill the holes to just below the surface and regular mud to finish. Simple and no video required.
Would love to know when the project is FULLY finished, and has full support for nearly all panels. and no breaking bugs. the fact slider entities work makes it even more interesting.
If it is running Home Assistant OS it will probably be available as an addon. In any other case, so long as you can install docker you should be able to run the manager.
So two months later, how is this working out? Seems like this project is not going anywhere... Kickstarter failed to meet goal, and no new news I can find anywhere. Since you seem to know the developer, maybe you can make a video on this with updates on the status of this project.
It's not the same you can find on GitHub?
He was almost over $100, but now he's at $222 after I pitched in $123 💖 I look forward to this project! 😁
Hey,
This may be an asset in the future but currently it is just a fancy control of lights. This is usually not what a home assistant user expects because there the integrations are quasi unlimited. I will replace my current NSPanel controls with that manager only when the capabilities of the HA blueprint and NSpanel UI are clearly surpassed in functionality. Right now, I don't see the advantage and a touch display that mostly sleeps (black) is a useless black box on the wall for housemates and visitors. They prefer mechanical switches that always work and don't need a manual.
Regards
Totally agree. I was quite disappointed. As for now this is just a fancy light switch. I use home assistant at my home and I dont control any lights so this is of no use for me. I use HA for energy monitoring, controlling heating, car charging, and controlling the water heater. The positive thing is that is was easier to install than installing the HA blueprint.
I don't understand this. No use of the hard buttons? Interface looks old and outdated. No use of the internal termostat? In Home Assistant with the Blueprint you can easy upload the tft also. I look forward to what they will come up with tho. Nice of only two people to fix this! Keep up the good work!
I have done some fun stuff with my NSPanel, including fan/light controls, RGB bulb controls, coffee maker triggers, etc. Wish I had this a year ago, would have saved me many hours of programming/testing.
I bought my first NSPanel about a year ago. And then some more. Until now I didn't install any of them because my total renovation is still ongoing. I thought a couple of times that "now" it's time to learn the details. Good luck I never learned what I won't need anymore. I guess in a month or two I will really have to do it. Thanks to you and everybody else in the community!
Why is this a Kickstarter???? Why not open source this and have the commmunity jump in and help build it!!! Sucks this will never see the light of day, but It would be nice if some people could get together and start setting up the bones of this and have open source community to help... I am not a software engineer, so no idea how to start that process. I write scripts and some small, non complicated programs, but no where near being able to start this, lol.
Would the thermostat also work? Just asking because i plan to replace my old stupid ones by this and it would be good to be able to control the heating in my home by this like it is mentioned in the standard specs
I wish they'll be able to automagicaly get rooms from HA Api!
Is it going to have weather display and thermostat control aka blueprint?
Hi Mark, good video: however I have a question. If i look at this nspmanager project i find the graphics and functionalities a lot (but realy a lot) less apealing than the things i have seen of your esphome + template projects. The only thing i'm worried about is that I only want to flash the 4 NSPanels 1 time. How do i make the right decision here.
Heya :)
It's down to personal preference really. Both options once setup and flashed should allow you to perform OTA updates without you having to take them apart and reflash them. It's been a while since I visited these but they have both matured as projects. Im looking at creating some new content on them in the not to distant future when I return.
Great video Mark! Can't wait for this project to go live 😊
Can you do an updated video please. Does it work with the pro version?
This is the most amazing panel work done so far, I love what Erik and Tim are doing, I wish they will clone this for NS PANel PRO, days ago Erik told me it is not in the scope for now, I’m building my zigbee net. Here the WiFi is not great
maybe it is too early but ....
1. UI is really bad. Sonoff did a better job with their UI. you can't go back
2. All they show is light control. There is nothing "Home-Assistant"-y that makes you say "yes. finally. these guys get it."
if you ask me.... NSPanel 2 should be based on the new TX Ultimate switch with features from the NSPanel. it should have bluetooth proxy WHICH IS EASY to include... and a light sensor.
forget about the NSPanel and the NSPanel Pro. they were beta devices and Sonoff doesn't play well with others. they are trying to create their own "eco-system" in which they are failing terribly because no one cares.
Is there Portrait Version or this is made for 86x86 european landscape panels? All projects already have their portrait mode versions. You cant start without this, because you lost adherence from portrait owners. you can feel this perspective in other projects. When one project developed the portrait version, those who did not offered until than, lost adopters. now every project have it!!! Just a "simple as that" tip for you.
Americans and south americans like their retangular panels stand up. Please dont forget US, BR, AU and more 50 countries stardards. :)
The US variant is in the works and will be supported :)
I just started with HA a couple of weeks ago. Been doing homeseer for 30 years but now really happy with HA. I watched your previous videos on flashing the NS panel and then using the HA blueprint. I finally made that work after a little bit of effort to get the initial flash done. I now have an addition to the NS panel. I got NS panel Pro. I have two questions. 1. should I forget the NS panel pro and get the older panels instead? 2. Should I use this new manager that you spoke about in this video or should I stick with using the blueprint?
i love the nspanel running ESPHome but its brutal keeping it updated, this looks a far easier way to manage it.
What’s so difficult about updating it? How often do you have to update?
I would update inline with new releases as much as possible or else you would find updating HA could turn into a game of chance whthere or not the NSpanel would still be working@@charliemortonmusic
With ll respect, just as a Sonoff user, ith no add on's or flashed devices i just ant to know if i can use NS Panel manager? I hear a lot of tech wich i am not interested in???
When are we going to be able to utilize this? The one that blackymas put together with BP's is broken, so this would be great.
Why is sonoff not doing this ??
Love if they can add a tab for smart trvs, so in the set room it is in it can adjust it from the panel.
I get thermostat controls but in many houses it doesnt make sense having them on all panels
I am watching the live stream but wanna mention a point I am missing cause I was thinking to use this as a switch and also nice display for HA function / switches cause I would like to show some data like W and kWh used today from a SonOff Switch called PowR Elite which also measures W, A, V and consumption.
I want to use that next to the Wallbox to turn on the SonOff PowR Elite Switch which than turn the wallbox on. And if that charging will start I should see the W going up and also showing the kWh used today at least.
But that would require to retrieve SonOff data to display or update them there which could / should be possible with the mqtt manager for sure at least somehow .
If that would be impossible I would not wanna buy one of these cause I had thought about them as Manager beyond the pure administration of lights alone.
I simply do not use SonOff for lighting tasks cause I have already XIaomi bulbs and strips and what not for years.
Would be nice if that will be possible in the future for example new year or so cause I am not in a hurry, but I need a simple display at the wallbox cause currently I have no display for such data. I also might wanna use that to run different charging profiles like only surplus charging (which means solar power surplus available or SOC of home battery > 66%) or for example max. Charging which then would go up to 11 kW instead of 1,3 kW at lowest charging profile.
Great work, but my home automation is fhem. I found no project to use fhem with the nspanel without many work. It is possible to use the nspanelmanager with fhem?
There are plans for manually added entities through MQTT but as you can imagine, it is not a priority at the moment.
too bad it is only for lights. I need thermostat
Have seven US panels and use both of the other projects.
Looking forward to seeing this at my home.
Would you still recommend this route or would I be best off going with esphome?
If you are doing just one panel I think esphome would be better as you can more freely tinker with it. If you are doing several and just want easy deployment and control then this is the way 👍🏻
nspanel stat can you shure it
We just need a few more people to pledge to get the project going
This was a big fail wasn't it @MarkWattTech Why did a small software project like this even need 6600 usd for
I've been a way for a while and not spoken with the developer for this project in that time. I imagine though that was a value he chose to make the time he has spent on the project worthwhile.
Does it work with ns panel
Pro ?
If you could do a video on how to solve the non neutral wire problem please 🤣
I use a framing hammer to punch holes in the drywall a wire fish and a drill to pull Romex. The best trick is to use 20 minute drywall mud to fill the holes to just below the surface and regular mud to finish. Simple and no video required.
Is this an alternative to the ns blueprint project?
It is yes
Hoping you will be able to make it work with NS Panel Pro
did you test it?
😠 "Promo SM"
where can i get this software?
It wont be available to the public till later this summer
Thanks M.W.T.
pls share the github links
Currently the repo is private. It will be publicly available towards the end of summer.
is this available already?
Funding unsuccessful.
Can it connect to air conditioners
Currently it is just light. But in the future more devices will be added.
Would love to know when the project is FULLY finished, and has full support for nearly all panels. and no breaking bugs.
the fact slider entities work makes it even more interesting.
Does it run in homeassistant somehow or does it require another machine which I would wanna avoid ?
4:38 gave the answer !
It is openHAB what Erik uses, but you can use HA also, Tim set the option.
If it is running Home Assistant OS it will probably be available as an addon. In any other case, so long as you can install docker you should be able to run the manager.