How Close is Too Close? Ed & Shaun in SHAUN OF THE DEAD

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    How do you stand up for yourself and set boundaries?
    Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are doing a movie couple (friendship) therapy on Shaun and Ed from Shaun of the Dead. They’re taking a look at healthy and unhealthy boundaries in relationships. Jonathan talks about what happens when you’re afraid to set boundaries or when they're broken and what to do about it. Alan talks about the power of the edit in movies and how Shaun of the Dead puts on a masterclass. Same goes for the impeccable writing and storytelling through jokes!
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  • @CinemaTherapyShow
    @CinemaTherapyShow  Місяць тому +62

    PDS Debt is offering a free debt analysis. It only takes thirty seconds. Get yours at PDSDebt.com/cinema.

    • @is_just_diana
      @is_just_diana 23 дні тому +4

      Alan... your hair in this add. I love it

    • @ethanporter3179
      @ethanporter3179 23 дні тому

      Thanks Cinema Therapy I was looking forward to this video I love this Movie Shaun of The Dead
      One of my favorite Zombie Movies right beside Zombieland thanks for making a video of this

    • @KeepbanningKeepcreating
      @KeepbanningKeepcreating 23 дні тому +1

      What you think if a woman holding another woman back and her happy ending is with a man

    • @KeepbanningKeepcreating
      @KeepbanningKeepcreating 23 дні тому +1

      In real life I've seen couples with attraction but no integrity develope integrity. But couples with integrity get tired of the obligations and throw out integrity

    • @markcastellanet9672
      @markcastellanet9672 23 дні тому +2

      I am surprised cinema therapy hasn't done the sandlot yet and the relationship between smalls and Benny.

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 23 дні тому +1691

    Shaun of the Dead? Does this mean Hot Fuzz is coming soon?!

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 23 дні тому +1317

    You can tell that Simon Pegg and Nick Frost have been friends for their entire lives, really adding to their strong chemistry on screen. Even when Ed has been turned into a zombie, he still gets to hang out with Shaun, play video games all day, and not clean up, so it's not that much different from before.

    • @Kelarys
      @Kelarys 23 дні тому +80

      well, it's different in one way, nobody is nagging him to be more accountable. Which is what he always wanted. Hurray for a happy ending

    • @voidwalker7774
      @voidwalker7774 23 дні тому +8

      You are a bot.

    • @TheSchaef47
      @TheSchaef47 23 дні тому +42

      Ed kind of embodies the underlying theme of this movie.
      Monster movies - and the monsters that inhabit them - are often metaphors for other fears that plague society. War, disease, nuclear fallout, Communism, emerging technology, sexual deviance, exploitation by the privileged few, the panic induced by a looming spectre of terrorism...
      What I love about this take on the zombie movie is that the zombies represent ennui, a listless generation drowning in nihilism.
      And if the point was too subtle having Shaun do it, basically everybody in the opening credits shambles about like zombies before the infection even begins. And at the end, in addition to Ed during in the shed playing games, the zombies after the crisis are grocery clerks and reality TV stars.

    • @BoredTAK5000
      @BoredTAK5000 23 дні тому +8

      Fun fact they have been friends their entire lives

    • @TrentR42
      @TrentR42 23 дні тому +14

      "Thanks babe."

  • @aceofaces0007
    @aceofaces0007 23 дні тому +579

    "Edgar Wright sometimes beats you over the head with it"
    *Clip of Shaun and Ed literally beating a zombie over the head*
    I see you, editor. You get a gold star.

  • @adalovelace521
    @adalovelace521 23 дні тому +841

    Close friendships where you can be your silliest and your truer self are always a pleasure to see on screen

  • @patrickmike2524
    @patrickmike2524 23 дні тому +902

    If you're running the whole Cornetto Trilogy, one of the underlying themes I realized is types of friendships. Long time friends in Shaun of the Dead, new friendships in Hot Fuzz and estranged friendships in The World's End

    • @countessD84
      @countessD84 23 дні тому +21

      Yes! That has my vote!

    • @hypokratesthehypocrite3513
      @hypokratesthehypocrite3513 23 дні тому +46

      Also in the worlds End Edgar, touches on Toxic Nostalgia which becomes a huge focal point in Last Night in Soho

    • @CatCheshire
      @CatCheshire 23 дні тому +20

      And "Paul", where the new friend are is introduced into the mix
      xD

    • @Skywiser01
      @Skywiser01 22 дні тому +27

      What's interesting to me is they each play a different friend role type. Burnout loser: Simon in World"s End and Nick in Shaun of the Dead. Overly tight-ass type: Simon in Hot Fuzz and Nick in World's End. Easy-going layabout, Simon in Shaun of the Dead and Nick in Hot Fuzz so we get to see each permutation of the dynamic. Granted the details vary but we get to see each situation.

  • @ms_cartographer
    @ms_cartographer 23 дні тому +567

    Honestly, I don't think Pete is as bad as people were supposed to be made to believe. He lives with roommates who don't respect him, and he tried giving Shaun good advice to try and fix his screwed up life.

    • @MissPickles1980
      @MissPickles1980 23 дні тому +158

      much of it depends on where you are in your own life stage. I was never a Shaun/Ed, but as I've gotten older, I've definitely become more Pete. Those who are still at the Shaun/Ed-at-the-start-of-the-film stage are going to find Pete an obnoxious kill-joy. Those who have already gone through their personal character arcs are going to find him less annoying, and possibly more identifiable. It's a bit like the meme about The Little Mermaid - at 16, you completely agree with Ariel; at 36, you completely agree with King Triton!

    • @Lickicker
      @Lickicker 23 дні тому +27

      Its one of those things that, we havnt seen enough of their relationship or placed ourselves in his shoes enough to understand that we would feel the same way. Ive definitely been abit of a pete before.

    • @ms_cartographer
      @ms_cartographer 23 дні тому +35

      @kalebhoward792 I've felt Pete AND Shaun. I've been both. But it's sad seeing your friend hold themself back and not progress. I can imagine it's frustrating for Pete to see Shaun so that to himself as well. Not to mention, Ed at times would take more than he'd give back.

    • @BatAmerica
      @BatAmerica 23 дні тому +71

      Pete isn't bad, for the most part. He does have a nasty temper, and his inability to confront stressful situations without blowing up shows why we can learn from his behavior. That's the great thing about these characters: They all are imperfect, and we can see ourselves in them while also embracing our strengths and shortcomings.

    • @ms_cartographer
      @ms_cartographer 23 дні тому +21

      @@BatAmerica that too. I may not agree with how he expresses things, but I can understand where it comes from.

  • @proudnerd9982
    @proudnerd9982 23 дні тому +155

    One detail I don't see anyone mention: the moment Shaun talks about the break up, Pete backs off a bit and just says to keep it down. Such a little thing that humanizes him

    • @Adrianne519
      @Adrianne519 10 днів тому +9

      Yes! He was not as bad as people make him out to be, he had every right to be done with them. I wish we got more scenes with Pete because we were just seeing the breaking point of Pete

  • @Colaschnittchen
    @Colaschnittchen 23 дні тому +207

    I just love how they flip their roles in end of the world and shawn is the man child and ed is the responsable adult

    • @TaraTara-ld2xb
      @TaraTara-ld2xb 23 дні тому +33

      Yeah and in Hot Fuzz Simon Pegg's character is the polar opposite of his character in The World's End. Nick Frost in Hot Fuzz is somewhere in the middle - not nearly as irresponsible as Ed, but not so responsible as in The World's End.

    • @CinemaTherapyShow
      @CinemaTherapyShow  23 дні тому +50

      Simon Pegg and Nick Frost get to have so much fun throughout the trilogy!

    • @thekraken1909
      @thekraken1909 23 дні тому +6

      ​@@CinemaTherapyShow
      We need them to star in more movies. Honestly, they bring so much chemistry and banter to these films. Highly enjoyable.

    • @Colaschnittchen
      @Colaschnittchen 22 дні тому

      @@CinemaTherapyShow I know series aren’t you guys thing, but what about groncle Stan from gravity falls ?

  • @BatAmerica
    @BatAmerica 23 дні тому +177

    Thank you for clarifying the difference between a close friendship and enmeshment. We as a society have a toxic expectation that because two people are close, they are romantically involved. While this movie discusses enmeshment and its damaging effects on a relationship, it still teaches us that romance is not the only worthwhile form of love.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 23 дні тому +227

    The characters and their relationships are really key to the movie's success. You really care about what happens to them, even before the invasion goes down. Shaun and Philip finally mending fences before Philip succumbs to his injuries is always a tearjerker.

    • @18Hongo
      @18Hongo 23 дні тому +25

      Oh god, I know a guy with the best story about that.
      So someone lent this dude the DVD of Shawn of the Dead, which he put on his shelf and forgot about. A couple of weeks later, the poor guy's dad died. Understandably, he's a complete wreck, and spends the next few months just going through the grieving process. At some point, he sees the DVD on the shelf, and thinks "You know what? Maybe a funny movie will cheer me up".
      He makes it to the scene where Shawn and Philip talk just before Philip dies, and about five minutes later the friend who lent him the movie in the first place gets a tearful phone call, and spends 30 seconds wondering why "Shawn of the Dead" has reduced his friend to tears, before remembering that scene and going "Oh. OH NO!"

  • @TheSchaef47
    @TheSchaef47 23 дні тому +71

    My favorite laugh in this movie is when Zombie Bill Nighy moving from the back of his car to the front, and just as Shaun shouts at his mum, "There's nothing left of the man you love in there!", he snaps off the too-loud radio.

  • @ladyfoxwf1075
    @ladyfoxwf1075 23 дні тому +250

    Why is nobody mentioning THE HAIR, your hair looked great here Alan

    • @AdamRhodes536
      @AdamRhodes536 23 дні тому +3

      Looks halfway to Kenickie

    • @DERRELL-qw8kw
      @DERRELL-qw8kw 23 дні тому

      Oh it looks sexy

    • @KKruse987
      @KKruse987 23 дні тому +3

      I 100% had this thought also 😂

    • @KKruse987
      @KKruse987 23 дні тому +2

      I 100% had the same thought 😂

    • @voyance4elle
      @voyance4elle 23 дні тому +2

      true!!! I hope he sees your comment :)

  • @hatthat4789
    @hatthat4789 23 дні тому +41

    Literally never noticed this but during the scene where Petes yelling at Shaun and Ed, you can hear car alarms and chaos happening outside which explains why none of the zombies heard their antics. Every time you watch one of these movies you'll find something new and I am all for it

  • @FishareFriendsNotFood972
    @FishareFriendsNotFood972 23 дні тому +113

    Thank you for pointing out that some enmeshed relationships are abusive and that in those circumstances, you don't owe them a conversation

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 23 дні тому +162

    Also, Jonathan, thank you for mentioning the whole "not wanting to rock the apple cart" thing. It reminded me of a roommate I had in college. I met him at orientation, and we hung out a few times. We ended up spending a year living in the same apartment, and he was a total disaster. He stole my money, would take my headphones, and take other stuff. Between the two of us, I had the car, and he would just randomly ask if we could go grocery shopping at 9 PM. I did it because I realized I was kinda scared of him. I realized halfway through the lease that I couldn't live with him after the lease expired. I'll never forget how one day, he slept through a job interview, and he asked if I would take him. I said no. I'd be lying if I said it was because I grew a pair, but I think because this happened close to when our lease expired that I knew I could suffer no consequences for it. Still, it felt so good to say 'no.' Thank you for teaching that.

    • @allypally2895
      @allypally2895 23 дні тому +9

      Also reminds me of Hot Fuzz where they bring the joke back:
      Nicholas - Look. I can assure you it wasn’t my intention to upset the apple cart.
      Andy - Yeah! Cus we all sell apples ‘round here, don’t we?.
      Danny - your dad sells apples Andy.
      Andy - And raspberries.

    • @Sandcat
      @Sandcat 22 дні тому +10

      @@allypally2895 Everybody and their mum's is packin' 'round 'ere
      Like who?
      Farmers
      Who else?
      Farmers mums

    • @Scrofar
      @Scrofar 20 днів тому +3

      Proud of you for standing up for yourself at the end! It may have taken a while, all journeys do, but I'm proud of you.

  • @M4TCH3SM4L0N3
    @M4TCH3SM4L0N3 23 дні тому +62

    I have a friend I made in college, and while we were never as stagnant as either character, I was 100% the Ed character in the picture for a year or so after he got married. We both have ADHD (though I was undiagnosed at the time), and we spent almost every night after work playing videogames into the early morning. I made a point of trying to make myself scarce whenever he was doing anything with his wife, and I would often do chores and help out around their apartment, but people would joke about him being more "married" to me than to his wife, and it was definitely problematic. I didn't realize that until long after, of course. His wife was super emotionally intelligent, and even though she was frustrated, she was incredibly patient in finding ways to gently push him to set boundaries with me. It never felt like she was hurting our friendship (except for one time when there was a fight and a big misunderstanding, but we figured that out), because she wanted her husband to still have me as a friend. I didn't always like not being able to hang out with my friend all the time, but I always wanted his happiness, too, and I always wanted his marriage to be successful. The result was that we finally reached a point where we weren't totally enmeshed, but we could still hang out for hours at a time when it didn't conflict with his marriage. He's still my best friend to this day even though I live two states away and rarely get to see him.

    • @pdurfey1
      @pdurfey1 22 дні тому +19

      I don’t think you were holding me back 😊. I was just bad at boundaries. I’m glad we are still best friends even though we are far away now ❤

  • @mujicama
    @mujicama 23 дні тому +73

    100% agree with how masterful Shaun of the Dead's writing is; it's witty, there's tons of subtle foreshadowing, excellent character conflict and growth...it's just "chef's kiss."

  • @anjelica948
    @anjelica948 23 дні тому +131

    As someone who had an extremely enmeshed relationship with a Narcissistic mother, I literally did have to run in order to escape her. I moved in with relatives, and it took a while, but I sorted my life out, more or less. I discovered a lot about myself, was finally able to be independent and grow, and….then my mother fell, broke both her hands/wrists, and nobody else was going to help her, bc she alienated everyone else with her behavior. But the almost five years I had away from her was enough so that when I came back to help her, I wasn’t so lost or consumed by the relationship. And trust me, we fought tooth and nail as I established boundaries, and as I learned how to show her love in a way she understands, so that she doesn’t lash out constantly bc of feeling neglected. So it IS possible to grow from an enmeshed relationship. But it is hard, its daily work, it does hurt A Lot of the time. But if both people are willing to work and meet halfway, then it is worth it.

    • @LamanKnight
      @LamanKnight 23 дні тому +21

      While I don't want to share exact details, I just want to say thanks for sharing your story, because I am in the midst of something similar to that. I currently have the chance to move somewhere far from my "enmeshed ones," but I've been trying to find excuses not to do it; a big part of that has been the fear that if I leave now, then that may be the death of those relationships altogether. But it's encouraging to hear that with some time and healing --- and of course, a ton of sustained effort --- even relationships like these can heal. (I know that's not a guarantee that they WILL heal, but it's nice to be reminded that they CAN.)

    • @anjelica948
      @anjelica948 23 дні тому +4

      @@LamanKnight They definitely can. I never imagined in a MILLION years that my relationship with my mom would even start to become healthy. Let alone be in the place it is today. And like I said, its not easy, and it isn’t always good. But its miles and miles better than it was.

    • @nineteenfortyeight6762
      @nineteenfortyeight6762 21 день тому +3

      I'm heartbroken because I failed to do this with my mother. It's hard. You've done a great thing. ❤

    • @Yukito710
      @Yukito710 21 день тому +1

      Never let someone put all of that work just on you, either. Relationships require work from all parties.

    • @anjelica948
      @anjelica948 21 день тому +6

      @@Yukito710 Oh trust me, I know. That’s what makes my situation so surprising to me, because I spent…25 or so years believing my mom would never change. Hours and hours and hours I cried because she was who she was and either I was going to have to go no-contact, or I would be enmeshed with her forever and never have my own life.
      And yet, as she has gotten older, and I’ve been able to have my own identity and become more confident in myself, I’ve been able to have better boundaries, and she has been mostly respecting them, which is something she NEVER used to do before. I think she finally understood that I’m really the last and only person she has. Years ago, not long after I first moved back to help her, we got into a fight and I remember telling her “Who did you call when you got hurt??? ME!!!! You didn’t call your parents, your brothers, your coworkers, you called ME!!!!!! And I came running! I left my job, my friends, my grandma, gave away most of my possessions, my car, I dropped EVERYTHING over the course of a weekend, no questions asked.”
      We still continued to fight after that conversation, but I do wonder if maybe that was the seed that sparked her to realize she had to learn to compromise and respect me as an actual individual person, because if she didn’t, she wouldn’t have anyone left in her life.
      It’s been a Very long road. And its a road we will have to continue walking for probably our entire lives. But any progress is great in my opinion.

  • @SurinaSlackArt
    @SurinaSlackArt 23 дні тому +60

    Not to detract from the discussion, but omg Alan's hair is GIVING today. Slay, buddy

    • @TheCassandraKing
      @TheCassandraKing 23 дні тому +2

      I'm so glad you said it! Looking great I couldn't believe he wasn't plugging a new sponsor

    • @kevinlobos5519
      @kevinlobos5519 9 днів тому

      Gaaaaaay

    • @SurinaSlackArt
      @SurinaSlackArt 9 днів тому

      @@kevinlobos5519 lmaoooo

  • @daltagnan230
    @daltagnan230 23 дні тому +39

    Shaun & Ed share some similarity between Wreck-It-Ralph & Vanellope in regards to Shaun/Ralph base their entire life on being the other's friend.

    • @MrLegendofLP
      @MrLegendofLP 23 дні тому +10

      I mean… in the second movie that’s true. And it’s kind of super out of character. As is Vanellope’s behavior.

  • @Det.Flynn9125
    @Det.Flynn9125 23 дні тому +77

    Cornetto Trilogy is one of the best movie trilogies ever
    Hot Fuzz is one of my favourite movies of all time

  • @ZombiebyProxy
    @ZombiebyProxy 23 дні тому +24

    It's so, so hard when you have a relationship where things are like Shaun and Ed on the good days, while walking on eggshells to avoid some sort of explosive emotional reaction on bad days. Someone who cheers you on and is happy and supportive, until its something they dislike.

  • @fff415
    @fff415 23 дні тому +45

    I'm not going to lie I laughed way too hard at the Shaun of the Debt joke 🤣. Peak dad humour

  • @amandasnider2644
    @amandasnider2644 23 дні тому +27

    I'm now realizing that the relationship between Sam and Dean Winchester from the Tv show Supernatural could definitely be considered as enmeshed to a degree...it has a LOT of toxic traits and codependency.
    I wish so badly they could do a video on Supernatural someday but i highly doubt itd ever happen given its 15 seasons.
    I wish they could also cover the tv show HANNIBAL and discuss the incredible complexities of Will and Hannibal's relationship...PS ALAN, this show is pure ART in every single aspect of it. The sound design, set design, spfx, vfx, food design, cinematography, editing, acting, action, soundtrack.....the only small complaint is that the exposure is a tad too low lol but its an esthetic choice

    • @skallywalla502
      @skallywalla502 21 день тому +4

      Ooh, I'd LOVE Alan's take on the art of that show ! And Hannibal/Will's relationship: turning the "bad boy redeems himself out of love for the good one" trope on its head. Very enmeshed and toxic AF, and super romantic, but you can't look away it's soooo compelling.

  • @nerdynina3805
    @nerdynina3805 22 дні тому +10

    I'm a film student and we've studied this movie in multiple classes because it's literally perfect. I've written multiple papers about how and why everything in this movie works as well as all of the references and Easter eggs sprinkled throughout it

  • @darby2314
    @darby2314 23 дні тому +12

    Always remember, Shaun was the one leaving the front door open.

    • @darby2314
      @darby2314 23 дні тому +7

      For clarity, Shaun was happy to allow Ed to be blamed by Pete for something he knew was his fault. A big part of their relationship was Shaun hiding behind Ed as an excuse for the issues with his life.

  • @mangantasy289
    @mangantasy289 23 дні тому +112

    I didn't know I would get a atke on Shaun of the dead today, but I clicked on that video as soon as I saw. Can only be great.
    Todally agree on that movie. It had no business of being as crazy good as it is. Loooooove it.
    And now for the video 😉

  • @RhamanaChan
    @RhamanaChan 23 дні тому +16

    I adore the Cornetto Trilogy so much, Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead are _easily_ two of my top films of all time.

  • @DamonXWind
    @DamonXWind 23 дні тому +13

    Innuendo Studios just put out a great video essay about the Cornetto Trilogy, it's chief assertion was that each movie subverts the trope of the hero growing up/moving past their character faults, instead changing the world so that he doesn't have to.
    Each movie has them begin to make strides but ends with the world changing so their original state better suits it, negating the progression of their character.

    • @roecocoa
      @roecocoa 23 дні тому +6

      Came here to say the same thing. Shaun never needs to have that difficult boundary-setting conversation with his friend because now he is nonverbal, has no human rights, and cannot leave the shed.

  • @annarichter484
    @annarichter484 23 дні тому +18

    Hot Fuzz is my favourite of the trilogy shortly followed by Shaun of the dead. Two of the best films ever made.

  • @lillianwolfe8314
    @lillianwolfe8314 23 дні тому +21

    Another thing that does enmeshment really well: Elementary. (Yes, it's a series, not recommending that CT does a video on it...unless they want to, of course~). Without getting angry, Joan recognizes that it's so easy to become enmeshed in Sherlock's chaos, and they struggle to find a happy medium. But they work on it together so they're both happy and healthy, while still being close. An excellent modern family, if you will~

  • @genevarockeman9721
    @genevarockeman9721 23 дні тому +12

    My best friend and I often say "we're weird and codependent." -- "You say that like it's a bad thing." But we genuinely make each other better and encourage each other to be good partners and sisters and daughters. I wouldn't be who I am without her ❤

  • @squidrose
    @squidrose 22 дні тому +6

    When I was a kid I was traumatized by a zombie movie. This movie helped me get over that fear because this movie is just so well written and was worth “sorting myself out”
    I’m so glad you guys are covering it

  • @Red95897
    @Red95897 23 дні тому +44

    Am I the only one who wants them to do an episode on 500 Days of Summer?

    • @ashleighzoda738
      @ashleighzoda738 23 дні тому +1

      Omg that would be awesome!

    • @Kelarys
      @Kelarys 23 дні тому +6

      It took me more than one viewing to realize I shouldn't be rooting for him just because he's the main character, and he had quite a few flaws that made him a... less than ideal boyfriend...so I would love to see them talk about it. Because on that first watch, maybe even the 2nd and 3rd, I was fully rooting for him

    • @18Hongo
      @18Hongo 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@Kelarys I'm not the most insightful person, but even on my first watch I was thinking "wow should these two break up".
      He's projecting his desires onto her, and falling in love with an idea of her instead of the real person.
      She's giving off so many contradictory messages she should be banned from working in communications, and she clearly doesn't care that much about how the way she's treating him is going to hurt him.
      And neither of them seem willing to acknowledge that the other one wants a very different kind of relationship, despite the fact that they're both very clear about their expectations.

    • @Red95897
      @Red95897 23 дні тому +6

      @@KelarysIn my opinion,both of those characters have issues. Tom is a fool to have such ridiculously high expectations of her and letting his mood entirely depend on her is bad for himself for obvious reasons and it’s also unfair to her since his mood should not be her responsibility to deal with. He was also dumb for trying to desperately make something work despite all the obvious signs as to why that won’t happen. That being said,Summer isn’t innocent either. Despite all of Tom’s flaws,he actually didn’t pursue her in the first place when she said that she didn’t want a relationship,he left her alone. All of that changed until Summer decided to start randomly making out with him at work which obviously did nothing but start the illusion of something working out for him. Summer initiated the situationship with Tom just for her to be like “I don’t want anything serious”. In conclusion,I believe Tom was being foolish and desperate and Summer was being selfish and careless.

    • @CinemaTherapyShow
      @CinemaTherapyShow  23 дні тому +18

      It's in the works!

  • @Agent57000DM
    @Agent57000DM 23 дні тому +17

    “Okay……but dogs CAN look up!"

  • @petrastedman669
    @petrastedman669 23 дні тому +4

    Hands down favourite bit of Hot Fuzz trivia: Nick originally had a love interest when he goes to Sandford, but they thought it stretched the interactions too much (and bogged the movie down a bit) so they cut the character and gave most of her lines to Danny, in most cases without any changes.

  • @thediamonddragon1369
    @thediamonddragon1369 23 дні тому +14

    Its great how shaun of the Dead can make you both laugh and cry 😂😢, Pegg and Frost make this movie

  • @bluefleur57
    @bluefleur57 23 дні тому +11

    Needed a take like this on friendships. Speaking up with friends literally terrifies me, but I'm seeing how much of myself I denied over the years just to keep them happy.

  • @bluelanternguardianangel8038
    @bluelanternguardianangel8038 23 дні тому +5

    This movie was my introduction to the concept of a *LITERAL* Chekov's gun. This movie is amazing

  • @Scrofar
    @Scrofar 20 днів тому +2

    I cannot believe my Internet dads took a spear and shoved it into my soul. Jono talking about enmeshment-and this is my VERY first time learning of the term-described a significant handful of my relationships prior post-college. Long story short: eventually broke things off with an old childhood friend, and later separated myself from a couple other friends but mended my boundaries with them over time (thankfully, they understood and respected this!). I used to believe it was "right", "chivalrous", and "selfless" to put others before me, even if it meant putting myself down. And I had to learn there is nothing wrong or selfish with wanting to put myself forward, be it setting boundaries or saying "no" to plans or ideas, and that it is equally as important to voice what I need as well.
    And to the ex-friend who retorted at me for vocalizing how I felt that one time... go take a hike! A really long hike with no shoes or bug spray.

  • @moonwalker8391
    @moonwalker8391 23 дні тому +18

    Glad to see a cinema therapy video on shaun of the dead! I absolutely love this film, everything about it is spectacular,especially the writing. Not only is it gold in means of comedy, but the heartfelt stuff too

  • @wearetheiam4720
    @wearetheiam4720 23 дні тому +21

    This video is a slice of fried gold. YA Booooooyyeeeeeeee❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
    Please do The World's End too!!!
    I literally screamed when I saw this upload because the Three Flavours Trilogy are my all time favourite movies.
    Jono and Alan, you guys rock!!!🎉

  • @Zeithri
    @Zeithri 23 дні тому +9

    Shaun of the Dead is my second favorite of the Cornetto Trilogy, my absolute favorite is Hot Fuzz. It's just so incredible.
    However; I don't think I agree with your interperation here, because at the end.... *Shaun and Liz lives in the same house, repeating the same patterns of life.*
    In fact, I dare to say that it might as well say that sometimes, people say they want a lot but in the end, they'll realize that what they had all along was just fine.
    PS. Spaced is amazing and I rewatch it often.
    You can watch it all on UA-cam and you *should* .

  • @gamingdisastercayla
    @gamingdisastercayla 23 дні тому +10

    Never clicked on a cinema therapy video faster. One of my all time favorite movies, love Edgar Wrights work, absolute masterpieces of cinema ❤️❤️

  • @zo-zu7158
    @zo-zu7158 23 дні тому +5

    I've never seen the movie and *I'M* crying at that last scene with Ed.

  • @nimloc1670
    @nimloc1670 23 дні тому +3

    You guys should cover "The Book Of Life"! I think the way they handle family and friendships is common in a lot of other movies, but that's not at all a bad thing! Would be right up your alley I think, especially Manolo and his father.

  • @macthemeh
    @macthemeh 23 дні тому +7

    Shaun of the Dead is an amazing movie. No question.
    Hot Fuzz is one of my favorite films of all time and I really hope you guys do it next.

  • @jimmy-stevenbiemans1486
    @jimmy-stevenbiemans1486 23 дні тому +9

    1:11 I admire the passion Alan has for movies. He calls almost every movie ever made the best movie ever made. With a few exceptions (I am looking at you Tw*l*ght!). I wish I had so much passion for something 😂🥳🤸🏼‍♂️🤹🏼‍♂️

  • @wikemazowski6297
    @wikemazowski6297 23 дні тому +6

    I’m absolutely giddy to see what you guys have to say about hot fuzz. If Shaun is good at the set up and payoff, Hot Fuzz is the god gamn mona lisa of it. My favorite comedy movie of all time.

  • @EricMHowardII-yh1rn
    @EricMHowardII-yh1rn 18 днів тому +1

    Working on common ground issues is a blessing when two or more people work well together in harmony. In connection to reviewing movies like Dead Poet Society. Starting Robin Williams.

  • @Its_Marcus
    @Its_Marcus 23 дні тому +1

    5:10 When I see Alan with that hair, all I can think about is Dennis Quaid playing Jerry Lee Lewis in "Great Balls of Fire"

  • @haeherfeder0221
    @haeherfeder0221 23 дні тому +11

    Please do the Heartstopper episode people have been asking for for so long 🙏
    Also I’d love your take on a Neil Gaiman creation, maybe one on Sandman and how Dream deals with humanity? Or Good omens?

  • @ondrejvasak1054
    @ondrejvasak1054 7 днів тому +2

    What I really like about the story is the fact that Shaun's plan pretty much fails horribly. The whole Winchester idea doesn't go well and most of the groups dies. But he did the best he could in terrible situation and that counts for something.

  • @ThatOneAwkGuy
    @ThatOneAwkGuy 23 дні тому +7

    I think Scott Pilgrim vs the World is a good movie to look at, it focused on confronting your past and also your significant other's past or something. Maybe even the netflix show, that one has Ramona confronting her past mistakes a lot

  • @williamphillipsthethird
    @williamphillipsthethird 18 днів тому +2

    Man, your guys chemistry is perfect in these videos. Keep em coming ❤

  • @queencitycardboard6781
    @queencitycardboard6781 16 днів тому

    Innuendo Studios did a recent video about how the Cornetto trilogy is not in fact about immature people growing into maturity, but a love letter to not growing up where Pegg’s character doesn’t change so much as the world around him changes to accommodate his immaturity. I’m interested in Alan and Jonathan’s thoughts on that.

  • @Matt42MSG
    @Matt42MSG 23 дні тому +2

    It's so nice to see you two covering content that isn't completely wholesome. For all the happy fuzzy heartwarming moments in this film, it's also touched with darkness, and it's good you guys acknowledge it; it gives the film that extra bit of reality.

  • @lukejanysek6369
    @lukejanysek6369 15 днів тому +1

    Super hyped for the Cornetto Trilogy covered! Can't wait for the World's End with a perfect mix of filmmaking and relationships/mental health!

  • @leahdouglas1793
    @leahdouglas1793 23 дні тому +1

    Thank you guys so much for making this!
    I've just started university and knowing what friends to hold onto and which to let go of has been tough. This helped alot

  • @skyfire872
    @skyfire872 23 дні тому +2

    I haven't seen this movie for years, and hadn't looked at it like you have shown from your perspectives. I love your takes on it, super detailed from a film making pov with the writing and set ups. Also, thank you for showing that enmeshment and setting boundaries etc, comes in a large spectrum, its not black and white, and that going from avoidant or co dependent behaviors to autonomy and self actualization is a process. You explained that so well, and as someone who sometimes can relapse into those behaviors its a wonderful reminder. Really loved this video

  • @thecalumbarlow
    @thecalumbarlow 23 дні тому +2

    Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy could be really interesting. Characters need time react to loss of planet, one guy is literally splitting his personality and all in search of meaning in life. Would love to see your interpretation of their psychology! ❤

  • @michaelgreco1175
    @michaelgreco1175 13 днів тому

    You guys are amazing! I am so glad I've stepped upon your channel last year!

  • @gunstarheroine5173
    @gunstarheroine5173 23 дні тому

    I love you guys so much I can't even describe. So thoughtful, insightful and delightful

  • @hineslink4
    @hineslink4 23 дні тому

    OMG! You're doing my favorite movie! First of all, thank you! Second, great job therapizing this relationship. I couldn't believe it when I saw this pop up in my feed. Years ago, when I was starting recovery from SUD, I would play this movie to distract me from the withdrawal symptoms. This movie is so well done, from the timing to the jokes and the timing of the jokes 😂 I was laughing so much it would help distract me from the worst parts of the process. The best!! I love you guys BTW. I'm so happy to have found your content. I recommend it to everyone.

  • @heatherwind
    @heatherwind 23 дні тому +1

    I am SO HAPPY you addressed Shaun of the Dead (and the Cornetto trilogy). I'm not into horror as a genre, but this one is my all time favorite films on so many levels. I related so hard to Shaun, and some days I still do even in my 50s.
    Incidentally, the DVD of the film has an AMAZING cast commentary version that I cannot recommend highly enough, as well as many deleted scenes and storyboards. Thank you so much for this episode, and brilliant advice as always!

  • @stitchfan08
    @stitchfan08 23 дні тому

    I love how the actors go well together with their characters and u can tell their good friends in real life

  • @lilith6314
    @lilith6314 23 дні тому

    Wow this episode explained a lot about what’s been happening in my life lately. Request for more episodes around friendships? Thank you Cinema Therapy ❤

  • @JoesephineMcClard
    @JoesephineMcClard 18 днів тому +1

    I wish you guys could cover Harold and Kumar. That's another perfect example of this style of Bro movie/relationship. Kumar and Harold's relationship changes so much over the series.

  • @ange76prkr
    @ange76prkr 21 день тому +1

    This is my favourite film! I love the connection between Ed and Shaun in this and how you play it as well with the outro. Dylan Moran was so young in this oh joy. If you like Spaced I recommend Black Books. Just look at the chemistry and relationships this characters build too is amazing. Like I love how this was marketed as a zombie romance but it's more a zombie bromance haha

  • @awskopw5767
    @awskopw5767 16 днів тому

    Shaun of the Dead, and the entire Cornetto Trilogy, is a cult favorite of mine. That said, I've always thought there was one thing the creators of this movie could have done to make it perfect. And that's at the very end, when Liz and Shaun are discussing where to go that night. Liz says "let's go to the pub" and I wish Shaun had said, "no, let's go to the fish place." It would have showed that he really changed as a person.

  • @unaanguila
    @unaanguila 23 дні тому

    Thanks for sharing the analysis of the movie and for the subs.

  • @bombomos
    @bombomos 22 дні тому

    That scene at the end between shaun and ed always brings me to the verge of tears. Cuz it reminds me of me and my best friend.

  • @jaredt.murphy8257
    @jaredt.murphy8257 23 дні тому +2

    This movie is so well written, I missed the entire point of it, getting lost in the zombie narrative and the main character's woes, not realizing that it's about his relationship with his friend affecting his now, and holding him back. It's really interesting to see that it's not that he doesn't love his friend any more, in fact their relationship is strong enough to survive the main character having different priorities

  • @thevoiceman12
    @thevoiceman12 23 дні тому

    I want to thank you guys for Talking about this movie this is by far my favorite movie I’m glad you guys decided to talk about it I love your work continue doing what you guys are doing after all we all need therapy

  • @oliviamackenzie9725
    @oliviamackenzie9725 22 дні тому +1

    You are right Ghost Town is a great song and not enough people appreciate it! Please do all of the Cornetto Trilogy!

  • @SayAnise
    @SayAnise 22 дні тому

    So happy you did this movie, one of my favs and filmed in my childhood neighbourhood - that's our old Londis!

  • @rachelsmith2581
    @rachelsmith2581 23 дні тому +1

    I’m so glad you guys did this movie. It is one of my favorites since I was a kid. Will you also be doing Hot Fuzz and The World’s End?

  • @carriemiller4047
    @carriemiller4047 23 дні тому

    Thank you for another awesome vid. 😊 I like to believe that in some situations, you hold yourself back. It's a matter whether or not you make the hard choices and do what's best for you in the long run. There were times I thought my old group of friends held me back. I left. I realized it was me holding me back. It felt great to take those steps towards a fresh start. 🥰

  • @ALeXZVaMpYRoCkZ
    @ALeXZVaMpYRoCkZ 23 дні тому

    I love this movie so much. In my country is not that well known so I never have the chance to have deep conversations about it, so thanks for such a lovely session Jono and thanks for crying with me Alan ❤ you are the best Internet dads ever. I hope to see ypur take on The World's End, Gary King is one of my favorite characters ever (one who I feel very much related to) and I'd love to see what you have to say about that movie. ✨️ Thank you guys sooo much!

  • @rustygray5058
    @rustygray5058 23 дні тому +1

    I love how much you guys love this

  • @marianamora4203
    @marianamora4203 15 днів тому

    Hot Fuzz is literally one of my all time favorite films, Shaun is so good and classic and the lesson is so refreshing.❤

  • @artfreak_l3010
    @artfreak_l3010 23 дні тому +4

    YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHAUN OF THE DEAD OMG

  • @thegreatacolyt1277
    @thegreatacolyt1277 21 день тому

    Great vid as always

  • @probsnooneyouknowtbh3712
    @probsnooneyouknowtbh3712 23 дні тому +3

    I know this movie only from 6-year-old (at the time) niece yelling "f***-a-doodle-do!!!" while playing with her toys and me asking "where did you hear that?" 😅😅😅

  • @adhdumpsterfire
    @adhdumpsterfire 19 днів тому +1

    LOVING THISS! Also, would LOVE it if you did two episodes on each season of Fleabag, it's SUCH a masterpiece and has so much to unpack in both of your fields!

  • @joshuayarrington9684
    @joshuayarrington9684 23 дні тому +2

    Please do video essays on the following:
    -Dracula Untold
    -Thank you for your Service
    -The Covenant
    -Spider-Man: Across the Spider-verse
    -John Wick series
    -Pete Mitchell from Top Gun
    -Samantha Carpenter from Sream 5 & Sream 6.

  • @tiffanypersaud3518
    @tiffanypersaud3518 20 днів тому

    I was enmeshed with friends, my dependence on them was too much and I was never lacking in their attention. But it was not an enmeshment were anyone held the other back.
    We did end up going after different career paths and lo and behold, that did nothing to deter the friendship, only perhaps strengthened it when we always wanted the world for each other.
    We remain to this day very involved and supportive of each other. I’m so grateful for that❤.

  • @jeanlove4186
    @jeanlove4186 23 дні тому

    I just love this movie. My mom loved acting so she wanted us to recreat the bar scene when they hit the bar tender. My family holds this movies close to our hearts, so to see them break this down is amazing to see. Pointing out things I haven't even noticed.

  • @Himesua
    @Himesua 20 днів тому

    I adore this move SO much. When I don't feel well, I'll put this movie on. Having a bad day, Shaun of the Dead. There's so many good parts to this movie and call backs to the OG Dawn of the Dead. I really like all their movies, but this is a fav. Thanks for going over it. Much appreciation

  • @Kisozriel
    @Kisozriel 11 днів тому

    Pausing a minute in to say…. I literally screamed when this popped up. Shaun of the Dead is one of my all-time favorite movies. 💗

  • @Zillah82
    @Zillah82 23 дні тому +2

    One of my absolute favorites. Thank you.

  • @KyCandicee
    @KyCandicee 23 дні тому +3

    Never thought you’d breakdown this movie 😂😂 brilliant

  • @kory_misun
    @kory_misun 23 дні тому

    I love how I *just* finished listening to all the amazing commentaries for this film, and now I get to watch you talk about my favorite live-action cast.
    Hot Fuzz is in my top five, everyone should watch that too. Even if you don't like buddy cop films, it's worth giving it a try.

  • @samanthac.349
    @samanthac.349 23 дні тому +1

    I started watching this channel for the cinema and the therapy and stayed for the bromance.

  • @stateofhibernation
    @stateofhibernation 21 день тому

    I cannot express how much i needed this right now. It's come up at just the right time. Thank you both as always for you vids and words of wisdom ❤

  • @stefaniedee2969
    @stefaniedee2969 23 дні тому +1

    One of my all time favorite movies! I've always thought the opening scene of this movie was one of the best in any movie and loved the whole journey we go on with Shaun. Great episode Cinema Therapy!

  • @10ark
    @10ark 23 дні тому

    Cornetto trilogy part 1. Thank you for finally getting to this one!!!

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 23 дні тому +1

    I have heard of Shaun of the Dead before but never watch it until this video came along. And now that I see it, I absolutely like it! And this is the first time I ever heard of enmeshment relationships but glad to know about it. More kowledge about friendship and healthy boundaries for me!

  • @thomaskositzki9424
    @thomaskositzki9424 23 дні тому

    One of your best videos about one of the best comedys out there! 😆