In this comment thread, you'll find the FGC with stick up their asses, getting upset that people can have fun with fighting games without being competitive about it.
Wow, the game's only been out for a couple weeks and there's already a bunch of elitists in the comments saying how awful everyone else is because they didn't take the time to master a convoluted control scheme. Honestly, the Fighting Game community never ceases to amaze me with how stupid and arrogant they all are, be it Smash, Street Fighter, or now this.
mariofan1ish Um.. but the manual combos are actually pretty easy? They arn't like crazy anime fighter level of shenanigans so it's harder to play the "fucking elitests" card here. If the point of the video was to show off the top tierness of Ginyu, you'd want the gameplay to be on at least some level decent right? Edit: I bet you're one of these guys that actually always wanted to be good at these games but gave up when you saw the ceiling. Now you're a little bitter about it because you're probably at this level and relate.
Chaotix Fox You don't really have a foot to stand on, the funny thing is by calling this a joke/meme video arn't you yourself judging the level here? This isn't a joke or a meme, it's just a low level guy showing his Ginyu comeback but by calling the video "Ginyu Top Tier" people will expect a certain level of play.. then they see this. Does it justify it? Not really. Did the guy title his video incorrectly? Absolutely. Edit: Oh and I still stand by what I said, mariofan above has no idea how to play fighting games. It's not his fault though, it's the games and their control schemes. *eyerolls*
@HallowVortex I will not "Pick One". For people coming from a background of fighters like Mk, Sf and Blaz Blue, FighterZ probably pretty simple. But I, and I assume a lot of others, do not come from a background of Fighters. I come from Platformers, strategy games, RPGs, and whatnot like that which require very little in the way of high-speed inputs, and as such, the controls in _most_ Fighting games seem needlessly complicated, and it's only compounded by the number of wholly unique character styles to learn in each one. DB games have never had that issue before this. In Raging Blast, Tenkaichi, Xenoverse and even Budokai, all you had to do to launch a basic Kamehameha as either hold down one direction and one button, operate a quick-time menu, or tilt a stick forward. Simple, easy, straightforward. In FighterZ, it requires a fairly fast half-circle that can require further directional input upon firing or accidentally trigger an unrelated command entirely. Just as well, in previous games, everyone had mostly the same combos with slightly different variations on each to keep everyone feeling unique, but in general you could use anyone and generally get better with the rest of them by extension. In FighterZ, while everyone does have those auto-combos that people point at and laugh, beyond that you absolutely cannot play each character like one-another and expect results. Frieza is vastly different than Vegeta. 18 is different than 16. Both Buus are wildly different than eachother. Goku Black and Beerus have absolutely nothing in common aside from throwing murder-balls at the end of an air combo, and with GB, even then you have to activate that ball manually. I'm not saying that FighterZ isn't as good as Budokai, or Tenkaichi, or Raging Blast, or Xenoverse (though I do prefer XV to it). But I think you're underestimating just how much more advanced FighterZ is compared to what most people expect to get out of a DB game. These controls are *VERY* convoluted in comparison to everything before it, and while I am actually trying to get better at FighterZ, this constant attitude from everyone is making it really hard to give a damn about getting better at a control scheme I already find not very fun.
Phantom Don't even matter dude this shit is awesome, seeing such an underutilized character tanking a whole team lol. The game is fun so fuck any elitist BS.
From what I've seen, it generally boils down to knocking an opponent up into the air, hitting them a few times, then booping them with a midair down-special, then following up with On a Scale from One to Ten. Or, you know, just throwing it out in a midair combo and the opponent doesn't block it. That seems to be what happened here.
That's so stupid. Blocking is one of the most essential and needed skills to be at least decent at fighting games. People who call it block spamming will always get opened up and will never open up their opponents.
Adonis Louis Every game where he gets a "trash" version of bodychange in which he regains health (doesn't swaps characters with enemy) at the cost of being unable to use most of his supers (Tenkaichi series except 1, Battle Royale, etc).
Carlos Swift you are correct his flip pressure is not good and easily punishable and the only redeeming quality is his auto combo cross up potential and 2H. his damage frame data and assist are not all that great
So, my man Gohan takes out the Dragon Ball Super trash, reminds "God-mode, I stole your status as the main secondary of DBZ" Vegeta of why you don't get into beam struggles with Gohan... ...and then the Ginyu Force make a glorious 3-to-1 comeback, securing the win for their team, and making a mockery of power levels! This, good sir, is glorious. This is what DBZ should be. I've been desperately searching for DBZF videos of young Gohan making a glorious comeback, but you know what? I can accept this defeat with dignity. Well-played.
The thing about fighterz is that literally every character has the right moves to become top tier. My friend was destroying me & my boys people as Krillen and Yamaha. I think that's what sets it apart from xenoverse.
Me at fighting games. - This character looks cool. - Smashes buttons, wins. - Smashes buttons, loses. - Time to git gud. - Searches for good moves; - Hears about TAUNT JET UPPER. Hears about pro's praticing this single move for 60 hours. - 1 Frame of Input. Yeah, I'm not that much of a fucking loser to waste 60 hours of my life on learning a single fucking move. I'm going back to video games where the challenge isn't getting the character to move the way I want. Mostrar menos
good post my bro. This comment section is pitiful. Everyone is over here critiquing like they are all top tier tournament players..Be sure to link us when you manage to get even top 32 in a tourney guys. -.-
Ignore the stupidity of the other comments talking about how bad you were playing. I seen the usage of deflects, Ginyu Force synergy, and air dragon rushes. You did good.
Evan Marquez burst activates when you either press both right bumpers or you press multiple buttons (x,y,a,b for xbox or x,triangle, square, circle for ps4)
Well lets put this into perspective, While DO have lots of Guilty Gear Xrd and Umvc3 combo gods with SF4 level neutral game, We have even MORE Xenoverse 2 Auto Combo button mashers
Never played this but personally i feel like xenoverse is better but i did watch the dialog for this game and it was amazing but only way id buy it is if i could get it for cheap just my opinion though not hating on the game does look good though im just not into the 2D fighting style also they made the good 21 cute as hell
dayum its not grand finals at evo. its a low rank match. at least he was using ginyu's best qualities like flooding the screen and creating less openings, which is more than i see a lot of other ginyu players are doing. just gotta brush up your defense and practice. I'd saw you did pretty well
My god, the moment ginyu was brought out everything was over
"The Captain will take care of this!"
In this comment thread, you'll find the FGC with stick up their asses, getting upset that people can have fun with fighting games without being competitive about it.
Ginyu is really good at flooding the screen. Lots of new players have trouble dealing with him because of it.
I have trouble with him because I barely get anyone who picks him. Dx
Wow, the game's only been out for a couple weeks and there's already a bunch of elitists in the comments saying how awful everyone else is because they didn't take the time to master a convoluted control scheme.
Honestly, the Fighting Game community never ceases to amaze me with how stupid and arrogant they all are, be it Smash, Street Fighter, or now this.
mariofan1ish Um.. but the manual combos are actually pretty easy? They arn't like crazy anime fighter level of shenanigans so it's harder to play the "fucking elitests" card here.
If the point of the video was to show off the top tierness of Ginyu, you'd want the gameplay to be on at least some level decent right?
Edit: I bet you're one of these guys that actually always wanted to be good at these games but gave up when you saw the ceiling. Now you're a little bitter about it because you're probably at this level and relate.
Joshua Mattravers The video is probably a meme. The people ragging on a joke video are indeed elitists who take it too seriously.
>FighterZ
>Convoluted control scheme
pick one.
Chaotix Fox You don't really have a foot to stand on, the funny thing is by calling this a joke/meme video arn't you yourself judging the level here?
This isn't a joke or a meme, it's just a low level guy showing his Ginyu comeback but by calling the video "Ginyu Top Tier" people will expect a certain level of play.. then they see this. Does it justify it? Not really. Did the guy title his video incorrectly? Absolutely.
Edit: Oh and I still stand by what I said, mariofan above has no idea how to play fighting games. It's not his fault though, it's the games and their control schemes. *eyerolls*
@HallowVortex
I will not "Pick One". For people coming from a background of fighters like Mk, Sf and Blaz Blue, FighterZ probably pretty simple.
But I, and I assume a lot of others, do not come from a background of Fighters. I come from Platformers, strategy games, RPGs, and whatnot like that which require very little in the way of high-speed inputs, and as such, the controls in _most_ Fighting games seem needlessly complicated, and it's only compounded by the number of wholly unique character styles to learn in each one. DB games have never had that issue before this.
In Raging Blast, Tenkaichi, Xenoverse and even Budokai, all you had to do to launch a basic Kamehameha as either hold down one direction and one button, operate a quick-time menu, or tilt a stick forward. Simple, easy, straightforward. In FighterZ, it requires a fairly fast half-circle that can require further directional input upon firing or accidentally trigger an unrelated command entirely. Just as well, in previous games, everyone had mostly the same combos with slightly different variations on each to keep everyone feeling unique, but in general you could use anyone and generally get better with the rest of them by extension. In FighterZ, while everyone does have those auto-combos that people point at and laugh, beyond that you absolutely cannot play each character like one-another and expect results. Frieza is vastly different than Vegeta. 18 is different than 16. Both Buus are wildly different than eachother. Goku Black and Beerus have absolutely nothing in common aside from throwing murder-balls at the end of an air combo, and with GB, even then you have to activate that ball manually.
I'm not saying that FighterZ isn't as good as Budokai, or Tenkaichi, or Raging Blast, or Xenoverse (though I do prefer XV to it). But I think you're underestimating just how much more advanced FighterZ is compared to what most people expect to get out of a DB game. These controls are *VERY* convoluted in comparison to everything before it, and while I am actually trying to get better at FighterZ, this constant attitude from everyone is making it really hard to give a damn about getting better at a control scheme I already find not very fun.
The autocombo flows thorough me.
(But seriously excuse the noobness here)
Phantom Don't even matter dude this shit is awesome, seeing such an underutilized character tanking a whole team lol. The game is fun so fuck any elitist BS.
Phantom bro how did you combo with vegetas “on a scale from one to 10 I give you a three”
From what I've seen, it generally boils down to knocking an opponent up into the air, hitting them a few times, then booping them with a midair down-special, then following up with On a Scale from One to Ten.
Or, you know, just throwing it out in a midair combo and the opponent doesn't block it. That seems to be what happened here.
Until you get used to combos, try just doing air LLH into S or 236s for oki if youre Ginyu.
Alex Ramirez vanish wallbounce
I love this game, but I can't help laughing when I see SSJ2 Gohan pounding Beerus like he is some minor shit.
Did you see the Maximilian Vs Perfect Legend vid? This exemplifies that concept the most.
ua-cam.com/video/cj_MlCSshUw/v-deo.html
Gohan trained *REALLY* hard.
"If Gohan didn't stop training after the Cell Games"
When the white kid thinks he’s cool for saying the N word
Your opponent didnt block a damn thing lol but nice going
Ibraheem Nasser i was just gonna say "12 seconds in and hes not wven blocking SD" lol
Ibraheem Nasser cause he's not a spam blocker
That's so stupid. Blocking is one of the most essential and needed skills to be at least decent at fighting games. People who call it block spamming will always get opened up and will never open up their opponents.
skyhero223 "Spam blocker"
Scrub detected
skyhero223 "spam blocker"
Jesus Christ
To be fair, those other characters aren't even close to Ginyu's power level.
The Drunken Coward honestly what dbz game is ginyu not a god in
Adonis Louis Every game where he gets a "trash" version of bodychange in which he regains health (doesn't swaps characters with enemy) at the cost of being unable to use most of his supers (Tenkaichi series except 1, Battle Royale, etc).
Yeah.
I mean, they have far surpased him at that point.
No where near~
This promises to be a battle like none other before.
Is there any character non top tier?
Jesus Martinez boo, trunks
Trunks? that's cute.
Carlos Swift you are correct his flip pressure is not good and easily punishable and the only redeeming quality is his auto combo cross up potential and 2H. his damage frame data and assist are not all that great
Carlos Swift Which buu are you talking about?
Jesus Martinez
Fat Buu
2:51 - Big
_Bigger...!_
*BIGGEST BANG ATTACK*
I just noticed this but if Gohan kept on training when he was a teen rather then studying he would be on jiren level :/
That guys throw will be remembered for the ages holy fucking shit choke much.
That comeback was great, just because of that you gained a sub my friend
You find a way to defeat the enemy, and find a way to pose afterwards!
Honestly, the way the Ginyu Force comes out in a specific order makes me think Ginyu mains are the FighterZ equivalent of Pac-Man mains.
That ending was beautiful!!!
Yeah, my neighbor looooves his superdash button. . . Guldo summon so useful for that.
Lol 10 frames of lag
Aznphambbg doesn’t stop auto combos lol
I cant get over the sound Vegeta makes when he gets hit 😂
So, my man Gohan takes out the Dragon Ball Super trash, reminds "God-mode, I stole your status as the main secondary of DBZ" Vegeta of why you don't get into beam struggles with Gohan...
...and then the Ginyu Force make a glorious 3-to-1 comeback, securing the win for their team, and making a mockery of power levels!
This, good sir, is glorious. This is what DBZ should be. I've been desperately searching for DBZF videos of young Gohan making a glorious comeback, but you know what? I can accept this defeat with dignity. Well-played.
Together we are...
THE GINYU FORCE!
Beerus : show me more
Gohan : vanished here Bitch !!!!
The thing about fighterz is that literally every character has the right moves to become top tier. My friend was destroying me & my boys people as Krillen and Yamaha. I think that's what sets it apart from xenoverse.
The ability to fire and forget with those hazards seems almost impossible to balance.
That team setup is so perfect
Super Saiyan God
God of Destruction
God of The Tierlist
Well Ginyu's essentially the entire Ginyu Force in this game.
The reason trunks was the only one to deal damage to Ginyu is bc he remembers what happened in xenoverse 2
Reminds me of Captain Commando with all his sidekicks
this is so much better than MvC3 ever was
Me at fighting games.
- This character looks cool.
- Smashes buttons, wins.
- Smashes buttons, loses.
- Time to git gud.
- Searches for good moves;
- Hears about TAUNT JET UPPER. Hears about pro's praticing this single move for 60 hours.
- 1 Frame of Input.
Yeah, I'm not that much of a fucking loser to waste 60 hours of my life on learning a single fucking move.
I'm going back to video games where the challenge isn't getting the character to move the way I want.
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Ginyu is S tier for sure
Aaron Rainbolt don’t you mean god tier
Rickey Weston of course. He's ssgss tier
There is no God Tier. Only the Ginyu Tier!
good post my bro. This comment section is pitiful. Everyone is over here critiquing like they are all top tier tournament players..Be sure to link us when you manage to get even top 32 in a tourney guys. -.-
Like No Other “He didn’t block.”
“Wow, why is everyone acting like such a top tier tournament player?”
lol
Like No Other Nigga THEY DIDN'T BLOCK
Today I learned you are tournament tier if you hit the block button.
thavidu78 "block button" lol you sure you learn anything?
Octavio Gonzalez Right LOL
As what Hit said, "Impossible..." I was saying the same thing.
So far the balance of characters in this game is way better than the one of MvsC: Infinite as far as I see
This man is a god
No, they just don't know how to block
Ignore the stupidity of the other comments talking about how bad you were playing. I seen the usage of deflects, Ginyu Force synergy, and air dragon rushes. You did good.
They don't call him "Captain" for nothing.
Ginyu is the new Captain Commando from original MVC
God-Tier.
That man is trash he's one of those guys that plays hit and then just taps square
Savage Jesus ???? Where did that come from?
Savage Jesus oh wait were you talking about him?
Patrick Star his name is Savage Jesus what did you expect lmao
Mig S idk I don't even know what he's talking about😂😂 I was just saying the enemy spammed
>using your burst when you have 3 characters left and the other guy has 2
Jesust christ the other guy just kept pressing square
LETS GOOOOOOO CAPTAIN GINYUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Everyone is top tier when you never block.
1:50 vegeta “oh shit”
I thought you were gonna do some badass body swap, not mash square,x, and super dash.
That 9-12 frame lag tho
5/10 no body change
Avbone The Kid
Too predictable like Flowchart Ken.
Avbone The Kid otherwise he would be broken
That shit Cold
HE IS A MONSTER !
Hol up.
You can charge milky cannon?
that was epic
Epic prediction
You know your opponent is a spammer when they use their burst with all their characters still alive...
Runnindawg323 Don't see how that proves they're a spammer but okay.
Evan Marquez burst activates when you either press both right bumpers or you press multiple buttons (x,y,a,b for xbox or x,triangle, square, circle for ps4)
Ginyu is definitely top tier.... after he steals the body of a top tier character. lol
that teen gohan voice tho...
Square combo master
I didn't know you could hold ginyu's level 1 super for more damage wtf
Never thought these matches could actually happen. Where both players are just trash auto mashers...
Anti-Manners look at the frames
Leonard-Spencer Akwanga I've had worse and still don't use auto combos. Its just a sad excuse.
Well lets put this into perspective,
While DO have lots of Guilty Gear Xrd and Umvc3 combo gods with SF4 level neutral game,
We have even MORE Xenoverse 2 Auto Combo button mashers
Universal Fuz I was mainly commenting on how all the comment section is like "omg ginyu god" while he's literally just mashing.
gotta be honest i was posting this for fun i didnt expect ANY of this
>ginyu vs hit
>both players immediately super dash
omegalul
god tier
The music please ?
Surprised he didn’t rage quit
2:09 though lmao
Vegeta watch your profanity
The delay got up to 11 frames
Hahahah that was awesome
I see that BP you're not slick
their was a lot of button mashing going on
This makes me sad that Gohan was discarted as a protagonist on the bu saga.
And he just....
Went downhill
He became a tax paying citizen
It’s not the character, its the player
People play Ginyu? I never knew anyone play anything outside of Vegeta, Goku, Goku Black and Kid Buu online.
You don’t need to buy dlc if you use gingu body change
ginyu force!
This is why I say fuck playing online
This comment section made me lose faith in humanity.
*trigers about Ginyu being Top Tier*
Never played this but personally i feel like xenoverse is better but i did watch the dialog for this game and it was amazing but only way id buy it is if i could get it for cheap just my opinion though not hating on the game does look good though im just not into the 2D fighting style also they made the good 21 cute as hell
Are we all going to ignore a Dragonball (Z) classic like 1:49 ? At least I am impressed this probably happened on complete accident...
I was referring to the 'Beam Battle', well... more like slaughter by Gohan.
*IMPOSSIBLE*
dayum its not grand finals at evo. its a low rank match. at least he was using ginyu's best qualities like flooding the screen and creating less openings, which is more than i see a lot of other ginyu players are doing. just gotta brush up your defense and practice. I'd saw you did pretty well
I subscribed to u bro. nice icon and great Ginyu gameplay! I also main him too =D
Wow
Sorry no lol😂you're just good with him lmao
My question is how did the game put you with someone ten times your BP
Holy shit Gohan damage sounds are so annoying...
i smell a nerf
Just Ginyu
TOP TIER
just because your opponent doesn't know how to block doesn't make him top tier
plz somebody tells how to download this game in windows 11
And I thought I was at least decent at this game...
Nothing is impossible
S tier
Looks like pure button mashing lmao
Not against people who know how to block.
YES I called this ppl are starting to catch on.
*UH* *AGH* *UGH*