IS THE FIRST DESCENDANT REALLY PAY2WIN? | HONEST OPINION AFTER FINAL TECHNICAL TEST
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My honest review on the first descendant after the final technical test which shows a glimpse on how microtransaction works in the game @FirstDescendant
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You should rename your channel to "No English Squad with HARD BOT VOICE USAGE"
Ha hahah ha ha....
First of all, you should ask "Why". I don't usually reply to this type of comments but it's getting frustrating and I do use AI voice in my channel to convey the message, as I have uncontrollable tics when reading something longer than 7 seconds. AI voices has been a big help to do what I love, and I'm constantly trying to improve my videos. The other problem is that I'm not a native english speaker because I live in SEA, and it's becomes harder to read english words with my current state. I did not say a word about this for years, because I was ashamed of my current condition, and I just always say that it's better with the AI voices. You don't exactly know me, and to insult me like that is just pure stupidity.
@@thegrindshack Theres a massive circlejerk going on right now in regards to ANY usage of AI because people are afraid/ignorant of what AI is or does. Just ignore them.
If you don't like, don't watch.
@@holyrunner5466 exactly. It's not the AI but the people who use it incorrectly. I use it to help me convey the message in my videos better. What's wrong with using with that?
Just recently the developers addressed the issue and the randomized paint system will be removed before launch alongside other changes like the battle coins which were in the battle pass will also be removed
I've already tackled that in another video hours ago.
ALL nexon games end up turning into a wallet siphon. Abort mission Tenno
True i just see the microtransaction in the game review by pupsker the other day and i take back all the thing i said in his stream not that long ago like “the game looking good” and “if the game is good i might take a break from warframe”
Guess imma stick to warframe for a long time before some actual good game drop
Let's give it a shot of it becomes p2w we can always go back to warframe our all time best game 😊
Nexon. No more to say.
@@larkalfen4513 yup
I shall remain I'm loving this too much to abort
I really enojyed the beta. First time playing and yeah it really reminded me of WF - especially ability to mod your descendants and weapons altering their performance that way. I'm not concerned about microtransactions, I've played WF for many years now - grind is not a stranger. Really looking forward to playing the game tho.
I enjoyed the tech test. I'm never concerned about microtransactions. All I had to was follow the main quest log there are missions in there specifically to unlock descendants
Who though hey let's put colors into a gacha system that only is available for a one time use on a single slot of a descendant or gear.
"Destiny" Cough cough cough. F that noise
I'm not playing just because of that, this game is a waste of time
@@ProfessorLandjodon’t not play the game because of one fuck up. It could get better over time
@@WhatWillYouFind even before Destiny fixed itself, you could still get your rng colors from ingame items. Not buy 3 shop items per paint lol
@@elijahtrammel6618if they already implemented all of this microtransaction and gating f2p players like this they’ll push more and honestly even if nexon get into a lawsuit it’s gonna take days for them to recover from it
They gonna keep pushing until it’s became unplayable for free
I hate how alot of games now a days Practice the art of fomo (fear of missing out) whem it comes to guns and loot imo if a game has a gun in a battle pass they should make it so that yo can still obtain it after the event but dont make it easy so if you want the gun you have to work for it like everyone else did
I just dont really like comeing into a game just to find out some gear and guns are Unobtainable.
Like helldivers, can get the guns from battle pass at any point.
Exactly the reason why I hate Destiny 2 and love Warframe so much. Battle passes work on FPS shooters or PVP games like Nexon's other big game, THE FINALS. But it's a major red flag for a PvE MMO like this.
@@aninass but wf has fomo when it comes to cosmetics 😭😭
As someone who's been playing warframe since 2013 and doesn't do anything now in warframe but lvl cap runs, I'm at the point where I'm only playing update to update. I hope this game is a success and something that can fill the void between the long Warframe updates🙏
yea i only hop on when there’s a update ive done everything in warframe there’s nothing to do. the first descendant is extremely promising
The point of paint being used on the characters is to make them look cool like how destiny has one whole pack for shaders that are sold in glimmer also if they take that type of tactic from destiny 2 shader collection being on sale for the money that you earn in-game also want to ask is there any vehicle to use to explore the map area’s
today on the tfd discord server they announced the change to the dye system and battlepass among ither thing which is a great start
There will always be people with different opinions on what they perceive as the correct and only way to do things. I did noticed you used a different A.I. voice for this video compared to your other videos in the past First Descendant Beta. Reading through the comments I learned alot and understand what is happening. Either way the video you posted has provided the necessary answers for what I wanted to know so it was very helpful. Thanks and keep up the great work.
nexon ? remember guys, leopard never change its spot.
Wow didn't even notice this was AI until I read that pinned comment. It's really good. Also just realized this is Grind Hard Squad. The AI voice now versus the old days is much improved!
I don't know, exclusive cash weapons? This can be a huge problem in the future.
The only things I worry about is if I have to pay for things to progress, or progress quickly. As in have to pay to bypass days of grinding.
The other is items and weapons that you can only get by paying for them, and give those who do or can pay an advantage over other players. I don't mind so much on if I have to play the game to get the same things others may pay to have more quickly, so long as that option is available to play to get them.
Nexon really showed their total lack of shame with the RNG paint. One of the best gifts you can give a new warframe player is color pallets, which makes DE non-trivial money. Anyone spending a penny on the paint system needs to be shamed for mindlessly rewarding leaders who belong in poverty not management.
I'll be the first to call them out if they get greedy but they immediately reverted on the paints after feedback... That is a very good thing. They actively listen to feedback and change things accordingly. I don't blame them having a battle pass being F2P unlike that shithole Destiny 2 which charges full game price + has season pass + has eververse. Bungie is the definition of greedy.
@@drae_gon1369The seasonal model is what ruined Destiny in my eyes. The Final Shape is a solid experience but the episodes are literally just seasons (I bought TFS for $50, not $100. Echoes came with the $50 purchase).
Though I enjoy Final Shape, it's mainly just a time killer until Dawntrail early access starts next Friday (which I'm excited for)
@@chelsthegameruiner8669 I adore FFXIV but ultimately had to quit playing it due to skill bloat becoming overwhelming for me. Trying to maintain those convoluted rotations + the crazy dance choreography of the boss/trials is just too much for my old brain to process 🤣
But ya I'm done with D2. I got TFS just to finish out the story and now I'm just so burnt out on it after 5000+ hours. Especially since most of the "new" content is just rehashed or reskinned they resell to you for the 10th time like Bungie always does. I'm waiting on The First Descendant to release July 2nd. Will be my new grind game.
I am so glad you are covering TFD! I think the game will be great ^^ I hope the developers take the feedback and they will see the community grow definitely
Hope the game gets a great launch and to see you cover more of this game
was really excited to be playing again but for some reason my pc cant handle it. i can run most games on max settings easily but for not this game even with everything on the lowest. im hoping this is just an optimization bug or thingy thats gonna get patched. waited for so long and just to realize i cant play
Friend was getting an "out of video memory" error when it was compiling shaders. Do you have an intel CPU? The 13th generation has problems when compiling shaders on the newest Unreal Engine. If that's the case, you'll have to look it up because you won't have problems with just this game, you'll have problems with any game made in the new Unreal engine if it compiles shaders.
@@CarnageTheory I always forget my PC specs and right now I'm heading to bed. will look into it tomorrow 🙏 still weird tho because in the first beta everything was fine. I didn't really get the "out of video memory" idk if I should've gotten that later on but I already uninstalled the game :/
I tried the beta a while ago and had bad fps on my rx7700 so might just be optimization
AYO AFTER A WHILE...m glad u r not using ai voice its amazing to hear you ....hope u keep growing
Loved the beta keen for the game so do you know when it’s coming out 😂🎉
Edited release date, second of July 🎉
It's nice to see you playing jayber GHS.
Sadly I was not able to max him bc of the short time to play.
@@thegrindshack I heard people say that ge felt underpowered in some ways. I hope he's good on release. 💯
That's a real softball to Nexon "Well sure there's pay to win battlepass exclusive weapon and shop p2w boosters with no ingame currency but maybe they'll make one?"
But yeah thanks
me grinding dojo pigments in warframe watching you talk about paints lol
Did they remove the keys needed for the boss misions ?
Wait, you need keys? Please dont tell me they were paid items
I played all three betas, I don't remember any keys for the void bosses.
@@Mayhemtheone117 search for shaper keys and it seems they already removed them
Nexon. No more to say.
Wats sad is that these ppl never learn untill its too late especially if you think Nexon is going to be as generous as DE..... pffff no you smoking lol
These guys put a gacha on color and you think they won't escalate that into something elses and that "It's just a skin" quote im hearing ppl btw say that again when you see $40-50 skins alongside slots and resources you gonna need later 😂
Yeah, that's why I'm not gonna touch it until after launch when I can get a better idea if the micro transactions are something I'm willing to deal with (I'm guessing it will be a pass)
Thanks for the video. I was thinking about buying the game. This video helped make up my mind.
It's free2play. No need to buy it.
@@thegrindshack i saw that after i made that comment on some other YT video about the game, i didnt even know it was free lol. Tnx for the reply.
If figuring out a good monetization scheme for F2P was that easy warframe would ahve already had some sucesssful "clones" years ago
Seriously it’s THAT easy but somehow they can’t get it through their god damn head ever.
Battle Pass is not good monetisation. It's greedy monetisation that focuses on the FOMO aspect, just like Destiny 2. I would have loved this game and I have played all the betas, but this time I was really disappointed. I'm out. I could have bought it for something like Nexon's other big game, THE FINALS, but grindy PvE MMOs like this don't really work with Battle Passes.
That is why Warframe is the GOAT.
@@aninasssame and tbh wf have free monthly battle pass (nightwave) shout out to them for staying on the good side of the gaming community
@@aninass warframe is p2w, wdym you can litteraly buy every weapon and warframe with real money, like what ?
it IS that easy to figure out
what is NOT easy is finding people to run these games that either:
1. don't start off greedy
2. don't get greedy after the initial success
I hope they make it with alot of enemies and action also add pvp game mode
The video is inaccurate. There are Crystal's you need to buy to increase your mod level, to equip a mod and upgrade a mod. Around ten dollars each time and you get 6 mods per weapon. Three to four weapons and 6 mods for your character. Each one cost ten dollars roughly per crystal. Then to increase the mod to make it stronger cost another crystal.
@9:00 is that a bunny skin or new character?
skin
Bunny (and most other female Descendants) had a maid and a cadet/schoolgirl skin this test. But yeah, that's Bunny.
@CarnageTheory did the girl who is all about weapon damage (she was shown in the video and I think her name was Val or something like that) also get a maid skin? I haven't played since first test as that 1 allowed console
@@Death_Jr7 If you're talking about Gley, yeah. Grind Hard Squad has another video titled "THESE NEW COSMETICS" that highlight the cosmetics for I think every Descendant. go check it out.
@@Death_Jr7 Gley has one, yeah. This channel has a video that showcases all the new skins. Go check it out.
From the first open beta that i played they just took the same formula of warframe then adapted it. But if you’re not bothering with pvp you can most likely skip the battle pass as long as it’s not locking store and ect behind it. I want them to not go scummy because DE need some competition to step up as a 2000h player started back in a year after if drop in PS it needs content for its longer term players and stop handing everything out to newer comers like it currently is like Steel path circuit should only be allowed for people who completed the steel path star chart because those weapons are very game changing
Any game that has a Gacha style system is a no for me, HARD PASS! Especially from a company that just got fined a few years back for stealing 420m from the maple story players by adjusting loot tables and making it seem like you could get items you really had no chance of getting out of the gacha system.
I usually play free games only and never spend money, but I think I just might have to clean out the cobwebs from my wallet for TFD, not for paints though. I'm not looking to play a fashion dress up game.
Nexon scares me, that name never been to any good
I don't mine the trading
The pay to win was noticeable in the Beta in the form of their version of Forma's. Nearly impossible to farm but easy to buy. It will take days just to have a chance to get one.
If you play the beta you know the farm for new characters will be hell
I heard Nexon is very well known for making games & then shutdown games. That really true?
I think the best f2p monetization is Path of Exile. Most of what you can buy is cosmetics. They're expensive af, but when the game is free you feel less bad about paying $30 for a skin. The only "pay to win" thing about it is stash tabs for holding more crap, which is:
1) not technically necessary if you're committed.
2) cheap AND go on sale like every 3 weeks.
lol i forgot to play because I was at a convention lol
3:06
Take shot for every time he said "Battlepass"(don't actually) 😅
Colors behind RNG farm you say? Not played Guild Wars 2 I see.
Pay for convenience in PVE is typically ass because they make the affected portion of the game extra bad just to make that "pay" for convenience that much more enticing...
Well, going off your logic You said it's not yet since there is nothing in the store that gives you an Unfair Advantage... That isn't true at all at launch at least.
Usually, I am okay with paying for convenience stuff as I play games like Guild Wars 2 and other Mmorpgs.
But there is a very thin line between the pay-for-convenience stuff being paid to win and not.
Paying for stuff now that would otherwise be locked to something like a 30 or so-hour grind is a bit pay-to-win at launch at least.
So, in the store, you can buy every single character instantly instead of doing the stupidly long grind for one.
You can buy end-game mats to level up your gun and character right off the bat in 20+ stacks.
You can buy some end-game mats that otherwise take many hours to grind for.
Buying the Battle Pass gives you Bonus Weapon and character Xp...
That is 100% an unfair advantage over others at launch at least.
(Subscribed) Good informative video. While I agree it's not P2W I do think it's Pay to Progress. But it's Nexon, who'd Thunk it lol. I was pissed at the whole RNG color thing. Game has a lot of potential. But sadly, with Nexon at the helm...... I'm definitely not holding my breath. I am looking forward to this game but I'm definitely on the " Expect the worst, Hope for the best " fence.
you pay for convenience, as game is LITERALY made to force you pay for everything, BUT you dont need to, if you will wait 2 day for crafting new weapons, you save yours 10 buck, if you dont want wait, you pay, win win
Its a free to play game ! Do you work for free? They Will need to have income , many Will pay and many Will play for free thanks to the ones who pay! As much expensive as it would may be there is no pay to win in a PVE game lol.
600 ducets bought battle pass and premium was more. pretty generic with these games battle pass is 20$ for premium. i have a feeling it will be 10 usd=1000 ducets. but hopefully we will see. (just as an assumption to kinda guage prices for now. well see what happens when game releases. that would put descendents at 10-20$ and ultimate descendents (prime warframes) at 50ish a pop? i think it was? i cant remember how much the ultimates costed thought was 5k.
the battlepass is not nearly as bad as the coloring aspect
I HATE games that monetizing gambling with a passion
if that does not get changed, this game becomes an easy skip for me
When the reason for not playing something is the fact that you can't have a pink or blue suit then it's all said about the current state of gaming! Players who value the character's color more than the gameplay and fun are the real problem nowadays! Children's thing without a doubt lol.
They should implement the warframe business model....it is an EXAMPLE of how free to play games should be...the feedback was mostly negative...so I think we are going to see changes...!
Nah with nexon history of being a money hungry corporation i even doubt they change but we could hope for the best
It comes to company culture and having muliple pillars of monetization isnt that common, especially trading all mods for premium currency. Did you know mod trading wasnt even a launch feature and only happened in update 8 (mods 2.0 and more)
@@635574you mean warframe?
I agree when i saw this was made by nexon i am very on the fence.
It’s PvE who are we having an advantage on, the NPC?
Not the NPC, but each other. Like in D1 if you didnt have Ghorn you'd be throwing in DPS for bosses. The power creep could gate keep other players who are more shy on pulling the trigger on spending money in the game vs whales or people who are skipping the grind and just getting stronger to play without the grind
@@dekublack4920 it’s could gatekeep? So your telling me you’ll be affect because someone has an item that you don’t have, that doesn’t harm or kill you. If the person didn’t grind for it.. what does it matter to you When it’s PvE? And if you’re talking about division their PvP restricts a lot of skills to make the battlefield even. If you didn’t put the grind in and build your character you’ll get wipe
@@Mkehollow my bad, not Division. In Destiny 1. You'd be kicked from raid groups with out having specific gear equip or the right sub classes. Celestial for hunters on gunslinger for high DPS, Ghorn is an exotic rocket luncher that would melt enemies. If they were to introduce a weapon like that as a premium pack and not at all grind-able, that would put free to play players in a hard spot for the voids like hanged man were DPS is needed to make into the next phase of the fight
@@dekublack4920 oh I see, umm I think it’s not like that. When I played beta it was more of a freedom to choose how you build your character, but when it came to gear and weapons we had to actually go out and grind for something. Some characters were locked but had a choice to buy or grind for it, like it give a certain achievement that you will do in order to unlock it
@@Mkehollow yes, it was alittle confusing on how to get some of the descendent pieces but it was satisfying and not too grindy. I've been following dev notes and seen that they've changed certain things in the open world and the UI for modules and weapons. Paint used to be buy able through currency but now its a rng slot machine. As long as loot and weapons are not locked behind a pay wall the game will be incredible, i dont mind harder content to get better gear and cosmetics.
I'd love to be hopeful, but the Triple-A industry drained any good will I'm willing to grant them, even CDPR failed with Cyberpunk's launch, I don't trust any of them any more, with very few exceptions, like FromSoft, Grinding Gear Games or the Monster Hunter team.
And I certainly don't trust Nexon nor a dev team that already had history of bad monetization.
Even indie games, which I love, can get greedy, it's rare since their success relays on good will and word of mouth.
DE had the benefit of being independent, at least until recently, so they fell into the same category of relaying on the good will of the community.
I still have some trust in DE, since Tencent owns Grinding Gear Games and they are still doing a great job, so hopefully Tencent will leave DE to fo their thing
I'm just fucking angry to see that Nexon tried to push our limits with paint system, those mofo wanted to see how far they can go, that's insane
dont forget the weapon in the battle pass is in the free pass. you just have to complete the levels of the battle pass to unlock it. which is normal. just like destiny does. it could also become available for free the season after bp, we just dont know yet. waiting to see.
I don't know why, but I really didn't like playing it this time compared to the beta. Even if it launches not P2W.. it will become that way later
Same here, I played both betas and this last technical test. The first beta was awful. The second had me hooked, I could not out it down. I filled out paragraphs worth of feedback for the survey because they felt soooo close to being excellent. Then this technical test happened and completely killed my enthusiasm for the game. It just felt worse in multiple ways, I couldn't believe it
@@jamilwhite7620 Maybe launch will be better, I will give it a try but I'm not holding my hopes up at all
I promise you the battle pass will be far from the only things available for purchase. These games start off well meaning, however the majority or players will NOT spend on the game meaning in order to keep the game going the have to milk the people they'll will. Now peoples argument is fortnight. That doesn't count because we are talking about kids playing that game and skins being something younger players care about. This game will not have that, so the only thing left if to sell players advantages to put them above other players to show off.
I wouldn’t mind not having a pay to win game if they would stop making the drop loot pool so saturated and chance drop set to like.0000001% to force you to play.😊
But if I can purchase something that allows me to get back to playing the game and not spend hours doing one mission in hopes a fkn drop your looking for
This new warframe update looks very different
4:11
That's how it used to be, it's less common now to "just buy a game once and play", so many editions, so many "microtransaction", battlepasses, cosmetics.
Alot of "buy to play" games use the same tactics as free to play games nowadays
Which honestly upset me it like bruh I gave you 70$ y do you want another 10$ for a skin
Theres no pvp im aware of so how is it pay to win?
Doesn’t need to have PvP in order to have P2W. P2W is to make the game more easier to beat than it already is…. But again it’s Nexon and they are very well known for stealing money, secretly changing Rng drop rates, & shutting down the game after they either make enough money or not making money. Apparently this is Nexon first AAA game so hopefully it not bad as I think it is.
My advice is don’t waste money on the game & just play it for free. I played Crytract I spent thousands of money on it & well company shutdown the game then made Memento Mori with the money.
When Nexon looks at Warframe they just see missed profit opportunity.
And that’s why warframe still living and i bet this game gonna stand for a year
good insight, knowledge and feedback.
good video 👍
Played to many Nexon games and know that most of their mmos dont make it past 5 good years everything after that is just crap. I'll just wait till the game come out and see some reviews and streams
Can't play on xbox yet so I'll wait
technical beta was only for pc
@@nargalda773 ah ok
I found myself enjoying the game more by seeing it as a 3rd person shooter Diablo/PoE instead of a Warframe/Destiny like
i was in the T test got to say this games systems r shady AF they need to kik the corpo greed out & it might be good but im not willing to be milked like a cow
Nexon will show their true colors in the end. They always do. If the Fair Trade Commission in Korea barely slapped them on the hand for their unacceptable behavior in maplestory with an 8 mil dollar (what a joke) fine, then they'll happily continue their anti-consumer practices in other online games. If you support this publisher, then you're part of the problem in the games industry. Your choice.
if they add loot boxes I'm out.
loot boxes are actually fun and good, it's the battle pass and microtranstions I hate. Especially anything other than skins
Unlikely. Loot boxes are absolutely on their way out. Banned in Belgium and the Netherlands, with a bunch of other countries having strict regulation on them.
@@CarnageTheory that makes sense I haven't heard anything about any other games having them theses days, however I did hear this publisher loved them while it lasted it looks like.
@@FlamespeedyAMV nah loot boxes are digital one armed bandits.
They already have loot boxes - they're just not called that. RNG paint, and gambling with your time on amorphous material.
Bro, we love your content. That's why we are here. Trolls are ridiculous and shouldn't get any attention. Much love and respect, keep grinding
remember when outriders was a good game.. amd then the update came out that doomed everyone's inventory
Why colors need RNG???
the only problems i had with any game if they have gender lock class its just a no2/a huge negative for me.
Surely pay to win onky matters in PVP games. The issue I have is casual gamers will struggle to get into this game unless they pay to skip the grind. But the grind is what makes unlocking things more enjoyable.
If i can farm premium currency like warframe i have 0 problem with this game.
Not sure if you can farm the caliber. It states in the game that it's a very rare resource to purchase special items, given you that hope that it can be farmed in-game, but I'm not going to give you false hope as it's a battlepass system and most system like this in free to play genre will reward you with the currency through either doing a specific task or leveling the season (just like in apex), but it can't be farmed usually just like platinum in warframe wherein you can sell items in exchange for the currency.
Technically trading is different from farming, but that only works because mods and arcanes and prime parts are all tradeable. Actusl farmable currencies is the norm in most mobile games, its a lazy system that doesnt need any player trade system to work(my side games are mostly mobile racing games there aint a single one where you could trade a thing)
welp its nexon as atlantica vet i can say RUN TENNO RUN
Only if its op pvp gear
Lmao The fact ppl dont want to talk about warframe being a small community and that most ppl leave the game bc off the real money to make in the trading lol
it is p2w, those ultimate weapon are damn op
also nexon never let u play for free since they always force u to buy storage to be able to continue to play game, just like they did in undecember
i really hate when companies charge money for something as basic as a fkn color for ur character like wth
So its a gender lock thing? That is a very humiliating thing in 2024. Also, its Skyforge 2?
Corean MMO = pay2win, RNG.
Wait I thought I’d have to pay for the game, that’d be so much better than free to play especially with games nowadays
I like my looter shooters flashy. I'm afraid this game doesn't look flashy enough for me to spent any $$$ on it.
it's a nexon, expected cash bagging
So, the battlepass system is the same as Fortnite's system. The only difference is that Fortnite is purely cosmestic, while TFD is gonna have weapons.
The color system is pure BS. I got nothing against crafting new colors, but the colors being locked to a single descendant once it's equipped is ridiculous.
Fortnite is one of those Battle Passes that I give an absolute pass(get it?) to. Same with Dead by Daylight's. If you buy the Battle Pass and complete it, it gives enough currency to buy the next one as long as you've finished it. That means people that don't want to spend money but have a lot of free time can grind stuff like it out once and then have enough premium currency to buy the next one, plus some extra currency.
This info is outdated alot of these issues were fixed
Considering the first descendant hqs no pvp right now no its not pay 2 win
Fashion is always the true endgame. TFD makes you gacha repeatedly for colors, therefore TFD is p2w
The only thing they did not show in the technical test with the micro transactions is how much is it going to cost. That's going to be a big make or break on the microtransactions. Also having colors behind a gacha system isn't bad but when you limit that color to being used once and only once until you get it again sucks. I feel better as solution would be it's an item that gets used while it's slotted so if you want to use that color on another descendant you just have to go pull it off and then put it on the other one. But a one-time oh you got this in the gotcha and you can use it forever is also kind of nice, but may cause issues with their monetization strategy. But also be nice to be like oh I want colors from here even if it was just a, I got to pick the colors finish, or even a color and I get shavdes within that color.
😂 bro I already play Warframe, I don't need this in my life
customization being that restrictive is its downfall, inventory limit in a looter shoter? HAHA dead on arrival
Hhhh the game looks cool and all and im honestly very interested, but the knowledge of premium purchases being 7 out of 10 of the best ways to get alot of stuff sounds like such a drag and im not really in the mood for another intensely grindy game
Stay To Warframe !! Don't do it to yourself !!
No issues here. Love it so far
whoa, 13k hours in warframe, 3x mine, LOL
to be fair, its nexon...the game is bound to have the monetization system of a gacha game.
all modern games are cashrabs, question is, do we care??
its korean. theres your answer.
I enjoyed First Descendant, very far from pay to win.
Pay to win is if you can pay to win. This advantage bs over other players is just the echoings of internet dwellers missing the mark those of us in the past set up and Google taking a mile out of an inch with that horrible description.
Warframes battlepass is all free, and this game its battlepass is not all free so why should i go for this game?