I concluded that "no other gods" meant there were a bunch of other gods around, but that old testament deity is a jealous god - I mean, he said so, right? Anyway, he didn't want his chosen iron age people to go around paying attention to those other gods. Harumph!
you know what kinda drives me nuts about the job arc? when aziraphale finds out about god sanctioning the death of job's goats and children, he questions why job could possibly deserve it, and what god will do to make it up to him. he questions god. but even after crowley sets fire to the house, he looks him in the eyes and tells him no, i don't believe you, i'm not questioning your morality for one second. in that moment he had more faith in crowley than in god. anyways
"Not a story you typically have in Sunday School books" Funnily, the story of Job was taught to us as kids and it has lived rent free in my head since that day. Even as a kid I thought it was so messed up because surely Job loved his kids right?? I was really excited when Good Omens covered it lol.
I remember being taught that the lesson in that story is to always keep faith in god since he'll give you a "better wife and children".... I think I was 7. And they say drags are indoctrinating children.
@@archmaester6594 They clearly were teaching you a prosperity doctrine. I loathe when they do that. They clearly didn't understand the story of Job if that's what they were teaching you.
@JohnCrichton7 Catholics don't preach prosperity gospels. The lesson was to value no one higher than God. Like Eric said, they consider it a form of idolatry. If God takes your family, be happy and pray for a better one.
@archmaester6594 The "better wife and children" bit you stated they taught you sounds a bit like prosperity gospel to me. It is true that they teach no one above God, but that is just basic knowledge of don't commit idolatry.
Crowley rejects his plants when they disobey him, he instructs them to obey him blindly and to fear him and the moment they don't... they get cast out. Seem familiar?
@@decadeofmcfly I've been saying the way Crowley treats his plants is him acting out his trauma. I think it's the same with what he was saying to Job's goat at the beginning about "God has abandoned you, the God who claims to love you."
@@elimgarak7090 iirc, common theory is that Crowley actually _doesn’t_ abandon his plants, but makes those that remain _believe_ that he’s done worse to them (putting them through a chipper/shredder), while secretly moving them somewhere that they might recover better. Which he absolutely still had inspired by _someone_ , but I’m forgetting whether there was anything that actually confirmed things one way or another, while also feeling certain it was shown quickly that this was the case.
@@alecLogan I've heard that before. It might be in the book, but I haven't read it yet. I do recall God narrating in the show that Crowley puts the fear of god into the plants. The subtitles say he puts them in the garbage disposal, (garbage disposal noises) so that's in the kitchen (I've been trying to figure the layout of his flat and seems to be the kitchen indeed). But then that made me think, that fear of god he's putting into his plants is the same fear that keeps Aziraphale from getting too close, and makes him fidget, and stutter in s2 ep1 when Crowley asked about the suggestion box. Crowley didn't have enough fear, and so he ending up falling, just like the little plant with the little spot.
To be fair, Aziraphale lying to thwart god would be a huge offense and could get him into hell, all crowley did was ask questions to become a demon. But I love the fact that aziraphale is clearly upset once crowley sees hes genuinely in distress he changes tactics basically saying, no worries your not a demon and I'm not saying anything. and the fact that aziraphale understands crowley's lonliness It's just such a sweet moment.
I thought it was interesting how Crowley stopped Job's wife from "cursing God" by running in and saying "that never ends well." I know Crowley says he only asked questions and fell from that, but I think there's more to it than he's letting on. Even in S1 when he was going thru the Astronomy book in his flat looking for a place to go if Armageddon happens, while he's talking to God and saying out loud that he only ever asked questions... he's still adding comments about how God shouldn't test humans to destruction, not to the end of the world, which is still pretty much an active rebellion. Telling God she's wrong and shouldn't be doing that is more than asking questions. And he said he participated in the great war, which is a huge act of rebellion perhaps even an ultimate act of rebellion. I think he's minimizing or lying about just asking questions. I suspect he may have even ended up cursing God and that's why he said what he said to Job's wife. I have no doubt that asking questions is how it started for him, though. Just as he mentioned to Aziraphale in Job's cellar that it's just how it started for him.
@@elimgarak7090 true, I agree with that. God is a fickel thing for the most part. I find it more ridiculous and almost in character for God to just do things cuz they're just being awful. Like the bet with Satan. Destroying a man's life just to prove who's right when you're supposed to be all knowing anyway is a bitch move 🤣
The book Gabriel uses as a fan is The colour of magic by sir Terry Pratchett and the one he reads that starts with It was a nice day. is Good omens itself 😁
I always felt like this episode is when we are able to see the point where Crowley goes from being on his own side to being on their side, his and Aziraphale's side, or where he at least thought that it was possible to have it be their side
This was an amazing episode and it was awesome seeing David in a scene with his son Ty & father in law Peter Davison :) Also, LOVE that you guys noticed the bug/fly.
The mini family reunion makes me so happy 😊 Not to mention David didn't know Ty had auditioned for this role, wish I'd seen his reaction when he found out 😅
The end of this episode gets me every time. The call backs, like "A demon/angel who does along with Hell/Heaven as far as he can", to "That sounds-" "Lonely? Yeah" and "I'm a demon. I lied." AOUGH! It's just so good. This is what good writing is
The records turning into Buddy Holly is similar to the original Good Omens book where anything left in Crowley's car turns into Queen's Greatest Hits volume 1, can't remember if it was mentioned in season 1 or just alluded to.
Job happened way back in Aziraphale's and Crowley's timeline, but this seems to be the moment when Aziraphale found himself caught between understanding human values (love of children) and heaven's values. Heaven seems to see children as interchangeable, but Aziraphale knows humans don't see them that way. So Job is the moment when Crowley's approach (at the time of Noah he said "You can't kill kids.") and Aziraphale's approach start to align together against their home offices. Since that makes them both lonely (only the two representatives on earth understand humans even a little) this is the beginning of their friendship built on common experiences. They still have a long way to go, but I love seeing the beginning of that and of Aziraphale's compassion for humans overcome his desire to follow the Almighty's plan. It speaks a lot to what happened at the end of Season 1 and the thwarting of "the Great Plan." This story also demonstrates how clueless angels are about humans. As an interesting side note, if Aziraphale and Crowley had not intervened in this story of Job, Satan might have won the bet. Things were about to go seriously downhill on the topic of replacing the children.
Hold on, you say they thwarted the all mighty plan in season 1? I thought it was stated that no one really what God's plan actually was. It was even implied by Crowley that stopping the war the might have been actual plan.
@henryreed4697 Sorry, I was not clear. When I said (and put in quotes) "the Great Plan", I was trying to use Gabriel's and Beelzebub's language when they were confronting Adam about what they thought he was supposed to do, because (as Beelzebub said) it was written. I don't think that Aziraphale and Crowley managed to thwart "the Ineffable Plan," which is the language I understood to mean the Almighty's actual plan that no one can know and understand. I don't think it is possible to do that. After all, Agnes Nutter foresaw all of the events that transpired, which sort of indicates they were meant to happen. For the record, I don't think anyone is fooling the Almighty in any of this either - like what happened to Aziraphale's sword or that Job's children were saved. Hope this helps clear up my thoughts.
Fun facts: the is actually based on a line in the book, where all tapes that left in a car would turn into the best of Queen album. That’s why there is so much Queen’s song in the show, and the book was written in the 1990 so the tape part make sense. I kind of like that they make this into a important plot point of the season
All I want in this world... is for you guys to watch, Garth Marenghi's Darkplace. It's 6 short episodes of absolute genius. A show shot, acted and edited badly intentionally. It's pure comedy at it's best.
Other crazy bible stories: A bunch of kids made fun of a prophet, calling him 'baldy.' Prophet is pissed. So God sends a bunch of bears to tear apart the kids. Yaaay!
Old Testament God is a psychopath. Which makes sense since he evolved from a Canaanite *god of war.* At some point, people were like, "y'know, God kind of sucks. Let's elect a nicer one. This Jesus guy seems kind." 😂
@@JohnCrichton7 Depending on your translation and interpretation, they were either kids or adults, and the reason for sending the bears after them was either for mocking a prophet or for idolatry. But like... do *any* of those translations justify sending bears to tear human beings apart? All combinations of those translations are still insane. Like, let's take the most generous translations, put them together, and consider that "idolatry" includes "having any other religion that worships a god other than the Abrahamic one." Imagine a story where some adult Hindu men mock someone for claiming to be a Christian prophet of Jesus, and then the Abrahamic God sends bears to maul the men to death. That's *still* wild and psychopathic.
I had the same question about the viice of god here but the one thing ive seen No One mention anywhere is how the voice glitches out after the first line and the tone completely changes. Like, its giving AI computer recording propoganda
He's a fictional character that's gone through a lot of revisions. At first he was a son of the Big Bang who was a soldier, then he became the Big Bang and was still a warrior dick, then he was replaced by some random dude who was actually pretty decent until he was executed for also being a cult leader. In that way, it's kind of a like a superhero mantle that keeps getting passed on to other people, except 2/3 of the time he's a supervillain. I know, the book series is inconsistent as hell and has some really weird scenes all over the place, but for some reason it's super popular 🤷♂
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I concluded that "no other gods" meant there were a bunch of other gods around, but that old testament deity is a jealous god - I mean, he said so, right? Anyway, he didn't want his chosen iron age people to go around paying attention to those other gods. Harumph!
Fun fact, Jobbe's son is played by Ty Tennant, David's adoptive son. With Jobbe played by Peter Davidson, his maternal grandfather.
Also Doctor number 5!
Davison
For some reason, that makes me so happy.
@@CortexNewsService David said this is his favorite episode. 😜🤪
He reminds me of the son in the DW episode Fires of Pompeii, lol.
you know what kinda drives me nuts about the job arc? when aziraphale finds out about god sanctioning the death of job's goats and children, he questions why job could possibly deserve it, and what god will do to make it up to him. he questions god. but even after crowley sets fire to the house, he looks him in the eyes and tells him no, i don't believe you, i'm not questioning your morality for one second. in that moment he had more faith in crowley than in god. anyways
Okay that is driving crazy worthy
Hehehe im totally fine. This is totally not making me want to pull my hair. 😊
they make me so unwell
screaming crying throwing up STOPPPP THIS IS MAKING ME SICK THEYRE SO IN LOVE😭😭
Huh. It’s almost like faith is a theme.
"Not a story you typically have in Sunday School books" Funnily, the story of Job was taught to us as kids and it has lived rent free in my head since that day. Even as a kid I thought it was so messed up because surely Job loved his kids right?? I was really excited when Good Omens covered it lol.
I remember being taught that the lesson in that story is to always keep faith in god since he'll give you a "better wife and children"....
I think I was 7. And they say drags are indoctrinating children.
@@archmaester6594 They clearly were teaching you a prosperity doctrine. I loathe when they do that. They clearly didn't understand the story of Job if that's what they were teaching you.
@JohnCrichton7 Catholics don't preach prosperity gospels. The lesson was to value no one higher than God. Like Eric said, they consider it a form of idolatry. If God takes your family, be happy and pray for a better one.
@archmaester6594 The "better wife and children" bit you stated they taught you sounds a bit like prosperity gospel to me.
It is true that they teach no one above God, but that is just basic knowledge of don't commit idolatry.
of course Crowley couldnt kill the goats, he can only be threatening to plants
Crowley rejects his plants when they disobey him, he instructs them to obey him blindly and to fear him and the moment they don't... they get cast out. Seem familiar?
@@decadeofmcfly I've been saying the way Crowley treats his plants is him acting out his trauma. I think it's the same with what he was saying to Job's goat at the beginning about "God has abandoned you, the God who claims to love you."
@@elimgarak7090 iirc, common theory is that Crowley actually _doesn’t_ abandon his plants, but makes those that remain _believe_ that he’s done worse to them (putting them through a chipper/shredder), while secretly moving them somewhere that they might recover better.
Which he absolutely still had inspired by _someone_ , but I’m forgetting whether there was anything that actually confirmed things one way or another, while also feeling certain it was shown quickly that this was the case.
@@alecLogan I've heard that before. It might be in the book, but I haven't read it yet. I do recall God narrating in the show that Crowley puts the fear of god into the plants. The subtitles say he puts them in the garbage disposal, (garbage disposal noises) so that's in the kitchen (I've been trying to figure the layout of his flat and seems to be the kitchen indeed). But then that made me think, that fear of god he's putting into his plants is the same fear that keeps Aziraphale from getting too close, and makes him fidget, and stutter in s2 ep1 when Crowley asked about the suggestion box. Crowley didn't have enough fear, and so he ending up falling, just like the little plant with the little spot.
@@alecLogan this is not a theory, it just hasn’t been included in the show for some reason. The book tells us where the plants go
I love how we had 3 generations of family in one scene - David Tennant, Ty Tennant and Peter Davison...
To be fair, Aziraphale lying to thwart god would be a huge offense and could get him into hell, all crowley did was ask questions to become a demon. But I love the fact that aziraphale is clearly upset once crowley sees hes genuinely in distress he changes tactics basically saying, no worries your not a demon and I'm not saying anything. and the fact that aziraphale understands crowley's lonliness It's just such a sweet moment.
I thought it was interesting how Crowley stopped Job's wife from "cursing God" by running in and saying "that never ends well." I know Crowley says he only asked questions and fell from that, but I think there's more to it than he's letting on. Even in S1 when he was going thru the Astronomy book in his flat looking for a place to go if Armageddon happens, while he's talking to God and saying out loud that he only ever asked questions... he's still adding comments about how God shouldn't test humans to destruction, not to the end of the world, which is still pretty much an active rebellion. Telling God she's wrong and shouldn't be doing that is more than asking questions. And he said he participated in the great war, which is a huge act of rebellion perhaps even an ultimate act of rebellion. I think he's minimizing or lying about just asking questions. I suspect he may have even ended up cursing God and that's why he said what he said to Job's wife. I have no doubt that asking questions is how it started for him, though. Just as he mentioned to Aziraphale in Job's cellar that it's just how it started for him.
@@elimgarak7090 true, I agree with that. God is a fickel thing for the most part. I find it more ridiculous and almost in character for God to just do things cuz they're just being awful. Like the bet with Satan. Destroying a man's life just to prove who's right when you're supposed to be all knowing anyway is a bitch move 🤣
Excuse me while I press the big red "But, maybe that's what God _knew_ they would do all along" button.
🔴
The book Gabriel uses as a fan is The colour of magic by sir Terry Pratchett and the one he reads that starts with It was a nice day. is Good omens itself 😁
I always felt like this episode is when we are able to see the point where Crowley goes from being on his own side to being on their side, his and Aziraphale's side, or where he at least thought that it was possible to have it be their side
That "our " car scene, "our" bookshop killed me 😂
And the kids were so fun
This was an amazing episode and it was awesome seeing David in a scene with his son Ty & father in law Peter Davison :)
Also, LOVE that you guys noticed the bug/fly.
The mini family reunion makes me so happy 😊 Not to mention David didn't know Ty had auditioned for this role, wish I'd seen his reaction when he found out 😅
The end of this episode gets me every time. The call backs, like "A demon/angel who does along with Hell/Heaven as far as he can", to "That sounds-" "Lonely? Yeah" and "I'm a demon. I lied." AOUGH! It's just so good. This is what good writing is
I know! It's one of my favorite scenes of season 2! 😢🥹
The records turning into Buddy Holly is similar to the original Good Omens book where anything left in Crowley's car turns into Queen's Greatest Hits volume 1, can't remember if it was mentioned in season 1 or just alluded to.
Job happened way back in Aziraphale's and Crowley's timeline, but this seems to be the moment when Aziraphale found himself caught between understanding human values (love of children) and heaven's values. Heaven seems to see children as interchangeable, but Aziraphale knows humans don't see them that way. So Job is the moment when Crowley's approach (at the time of Noah he said "You can't kill kids.") and Aziraphale's approach start to align together against their home offices. Since that makes them both lonely (only the two representatives on earth understand humans even a little) this is the beginning of their friendship built on common experiences. They still have a long way to go, but I love seeing the beginning of that and of Aziraphale's compassion for humans overcome his desire to follow the Almighty's plan. It speaks a lot to what happened at the end of Season 1 and the thwarting of "the Great Plan." This story also demonstrates how clueless angels are about humans. As an interesting side note, if Aziraphale and Crowley had not intervened in this story of Job, Satan might have won the bet. Things were about to go seriously downhill on the topic of replacing the children.
Hold on, you say they thwarted the all mighty plan in season 1?
I thought it was stated that no one really what God's plan actually was.
It was even implied by Crowley that stopping the war the might have been actual plan.
@henryreed4697 Sorry, I was not clear. When I said (and put in quotes) "the Great Plan", I was trying to use Gabriel's and Beelzebub's language when they were confronting Adam about what they thought he was supposed to do, because (as Beelzebub said) it was written. I don't think that Aziraphale and Crowley managed to thwart "the Ineffable Plan," which is the language I understood to mean the Almighty's actual plan that no one can know and understand. I don't think it is possible to do that. After all, Agnes Nutter foresaw all of the events that transpired, which sort of indicates they were meant to happen. For the record, I don't think anyone is fooling the Almighty in any of this either - like what happened to Aziraphale's sword or that Job's children were saved. Hope this helps clear up my thoughts.
i love how when gabriel comes to reward job he sounds like a gameshow host lmao. seven! more! childreeennnnn!!!
The writing in this episode was absolutely impeccable
Fun facts: the is actually based on a line in the book, where all tapes that left in a car would turn into the best of Queen album. That’s why there is so much Queen’s song in the show, and the book was written in the 1990 so the tape part make sense.
I kind of like that they make this into a important plot point of the season
Frances McDormand (aka God) was the narrator in season one and briefly reprises the role of God here.
This is a fun series, glad you returned for season 2
I'm so happy you're reacting to season 2! It's so much fun hearing your theories, can't wait to see your reaction to the finale
Peter Davison (the 5th Doctor) David Tennant and Ty Tennant. Surprising family reunion 😂
Can’t wait to see your reaction to episode 6 😂
I love this show and wish more channels were reacting to it. Thank y’all for doing it
I love that show so much, David and Michael are so amazing together and make me laugh wayyy too much ! I'm glad you're enjoying it !
just a note: I loved Calvin's "Google" joke :D
So excited that you guys are finally reacting to season 2!!!
Next episode is my favourite!! Im so excited for that one!!!!! 🔥🩶🖤🪽
Only a Good Omens reaction video (as opposed to other reactions) could have chapters titled "Nothing Before God" and "God's Viewpoint".
Damn aaron, you have the gift of foresight
cant wait next ep
Francis McDormand(sp?) narrates God.
I feel like the show really picks up in this episode. I had a hard time sustaining interest in the first one but once I watched this one I was hooked!
All I want in this world... is for you guys to watch, Garth Marenghi's Darkplace. It's 6 short episodes of absolute genius. A show shot, acted and edited badly intentionally. It's pure comedy at it's best.
The helluverse and toh references keep catching me off guard
cant wait season 3
Yous not notice Peter Davidson aka the 5th doctor, and David Tennant son was one of jobs kids
Other crazy bible stories:
A bunch of kids made fun of a prophet, calling him 'baldy.'
Prophet is pissed.
So God sends a bunch of bears to tear apart the kids.
Yaaay!
Old Testament God is a psychopath. Which makes sense since he evolved from a Canaanite *god of war.* At some point, people were like, "y'know, God kind of sucks. Let's elect a nicer one. This Jesus guy seems kind." 😂
Not exactly what happened there. You should look at the original translation of the story. It wasn't just a bunch of kids.
@@JohnCrichton7 Depending on your translation and interpretation, they were either kids or adults, and the reason for sending the bears after them was either for mocking a prophet or for idolatry. But like... do *any* of those translations justify sending bears to tear human beings apart? All combinations of those translations are still insane.
Like, let's take the most generous translations, put them together, and consider that "idolatry" includes "having any other religion that worships a god other than the Abrahamic one." Imagine a story where some adult Hindu men mock someone for claiming to be a Christian prophet of Jesus, and then the Abrahamic God sends bears to maul the men to death. That's *still* wild and psychopathic.
Damn Calvin and Aaron are picking up clues too well lol
No, it IS a fly. Not saying more than that though
LEO movie you guys will love it
Hey, good more or less Jane Austen quote.
BUDDY Holly
Watch:LEO
lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I had the same question about the viice of god here but the one thing ive seen No One mention anywhere is how the voice glitches out after the first line and the tone completely changes. Like, its giving AI computer recording propoganda
Who's God? Not met or seen him.
He's a fictional character that's gone through a lot of revisions. At first he was a son of the Big Bang who was a soldier, then he became the Big Bang and was still a warrior dick, then he was replaced by some random dude who was actually pretty decent until he was executed for also being a cult leader. In that way, it's kind of a like a superhero mantle that keeps getting passed on to other people, except 2/3 of the time he's a supervillain.
I know, the book series is inconsistent as hell and has some really weird scenes all over the place, but for some reason it's super popular 🤷♂
It drives me a bit nuts when people (who probably should) don't recognize Peter and Ty.